WEBVTT - UNPACKED REALITY - MASTERCHEF AUSTRALIA - GILL

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reload the podcast last weep that line. Hey guys,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to TV Reload. I want to thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for clicking and downloading on today's episode with Jill, the

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<v Speaker 1>thirteenth eliminated contestant on Master Chef Australia, which is on

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<v Speaker 1>Network ten from Sunday nights through to Wednesday nights at

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<v Speaker 1>seven point thirty. For my guest today, Jill, food is

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<v Speaker 1>a love language. She has been influenced deeply by her

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<v Speaker 1>mum and her beloved late Honor, who gifted her the

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<v Speaker 1>use of food as a love language, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>by her late father who taught her about intuition in

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<v Speaker 1>the kitchen, to trust her palette and to balance flavors

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<v Speaker 1>and textures when preparing food with care. Jill is a

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<v Speaker 1>Woollongong local, a very talented artist who has run her

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<v Speaker 1>own lettering art business for eight years, creating logos, painting

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<v Speaker 1>war murals, and we really felt a lot of her

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<v Speaker 1>creative ambitions through her time in the Master Chef kitchen.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved catching up with Jill, as you can imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>I have loved reading her comments that she has received.

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<v Speaker 1>There's actually something quite raw and I'm filtered about our

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<v Speaker 1>chat today and I hope you guys really enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 1>Jill will unpack everything from losing her father to hating

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<v Speaker 1>coffee and why being a creative is actually so important

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<v Speaker 1>to her. We will unpack the Master Chef Kitchen in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of how much interaction with fans they're allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>have during the season and what she has appreciated from

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<v Speaker 1>reading your comments online. I will also ask Jill about

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<v Speaker 1>the decision to use luck, chance and Circumstance games to

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<v Speaker 1>decide on elimination challenges and what she would like to

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<v Speaker 1>change about the competition in regards to that. We will

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<v Speaker 1>also discuss why Harry is her choice to win and

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<v Speaker 1>what she thinks Poe has taught the twenty twenty four alumni.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot to talk about with Jill, so sit

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<v Speaker 1>back and relax as we unpack her wonderful time in

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<v Speaker 1>the Master Chef Australian Kitchen. Hi Jill, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Hi Ben? I'm good. Thanks, how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing very well. I'm very excited to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you and congratulations on an amazing effort taking on the

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<v Speaker 1>Master Chef Kitchen. But more importantly, the way in which

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<v Speaker 1>you had connected with the judges and the contestants. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you had upskilled there better than anyone that's been

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<v Speaker 1>on this competition thus far.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh thank you. That means so much. Look, it was

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly emotional, but it was a really nice, wholesome send

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<v Speaker 2>off as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Really was, and I feel like, whenever you're having a

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<v Speaker 1>down day, go back and read that Instagram post you

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<v Speaker 1>posted last night after your elimination, because let me tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I've read everyone's every week as

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<v Speaker 1>clearly or as accurately as I read yours, but what

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<v Speaker 1>people had to say about you is amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh thank you. Yeah, it's really touched my heart and

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<v Speaker 2>brought me back up after obviously such a deflating end

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<v Speaker 2>to my journey. But like I said, it was really

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<v Speaker 2>nice to read everybody's supportive comments, and it's been like

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<v Speaker 2>that throughout the entire thing, so I feel very, very

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<v Speaker 2>blessed and grateful to have all that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I just think that it's not always easy to

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<v Speaker 1>feel things and let people know what you're going through,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's a part of your currency, is

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<v Speaker 1>that you're very transparent with your emotions and your feelings.

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<v Speaker 1>But one thing I relate to a lot is that

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<v Speaker 1>you're a hustler, and I love a hustle, you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I am such a hustler and I have that

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<v Speaker 2>mentality with me every day. But I also wear my

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<v Speaker 2>heart and my sleeve, and that is my motto is

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<v Speaker 2>hustle and heart will set you apart. And I live

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<v Speaker 2>through that every day. You know, I'm not afraid to

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<v Speaker 2>go out and work really hard and hustle and have

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<v Speaker 2>some grit. But I'm also not afraid to show tears

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<v Speaker 2>and have full transparency and share my honest feelings and

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<v Speaker 2>emotions with everyone and anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's not an easy thing, you know, And

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I struggle with it as well, Like I think, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>why do I have to be this person? But by

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<v Speaker 1>being that and being genuine, by being authentic, it's your

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<v Speaker 1>biggest currency.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, one hundred percent. And I actually don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how to be fake, and sometimes I wish I did,

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<v Speaker 2>so I could it might be a little bit easier

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<v Speaker 2>for me to live every day life.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm always going to think about just while

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about this is I'm always going to think

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<v Speaker 1>about the look of concern on your face as you

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<v Speaker 1>were looking through the pantry. There was a real oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god. I feel like I think about what I

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<v Speaker 1>would be like on this show quite a lot, and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that's the nightmare for me, is just

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<v Speaker 1>being there and having too many options and not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>knowing where to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is the look of not going shopping with

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<v Speaker 2>a go through list and not prepping for the week,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what will happen me. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also really potent for me to watch your emotional

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<v Speaker 1>speech about your father when they were trying your food,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's interesting because you were saying that your father

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<v Speaker 1>had said for you not to be scared and not

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<v Speaker 1>to be fearful because he wouldn't be around to fight

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<v Speaker 1>your battles. I wanted to add something to that because

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<v Speaker 1>my father didn't pass anything to me to use. But

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<v Speaker 1>I had this dream shortly afterwards that my dad came

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<v Speaker 1>to me in this dream and he told me that

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<v Speaker 1>now that he is gone, that he actually would have

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<v Speaker 1>more control over one happens to me in my life,

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<v Speaker 1>rather than less.

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<v Speaker 2>And oh wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the years that kind of followed, there were some

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<v Speaker 1>things that came down to maybe luck, chance and circumstance,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, but things really went in my favor, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just chose to believe even though I've lost my father,

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<v Speaker 1>there is this power, there's this other force now rooting

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<v Speaker 1>for me, making things happen, and I've chosen to believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I wondered whether or not for you, whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not you feel like maybe your father's up there rooting

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<v Speaker 1>for you for.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, And I think that's the power in perspective, but

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<v Speaker 2>also what absence can have, and that just also shows you,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, with perspective, that presence and absence have

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<v Speaker 2>an equal impact, and obviously you know both with you

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<v Speaker 2>and me, even though our fathers aren't here, it's how

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<v Speaker 2>we focus on what they do bring to us in

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<v Speaker 2>everyday life and what we do to carry on with

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<v Speaker 2>their spirit within, and how they can look over us

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, what we've been brought up with or

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<v Speaker 2>what they've taught us along the way or left us behind,

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<v Speaker 2>all those things carried through. And I love to be

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<v Speaker 2>fully transparent with how I did connect with my dad

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<v Speaker 2>when he was around, also how I can connect him

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<v Speaker 2>with him without him sorry as well, And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's equally as important as each other. I mean, I'd

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<v Speaker 2>obviously love for him to be around and to share

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<v Speaker 2>this experience with him, but I really felt that I

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<v Speaker 2>was able to carry his presence within me as well

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<v Speaker 2>as I cooked every day. Yeah, so I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>a beautiful thing if you have enough vulnerability to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to share that as well and be honest about it,

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<v Speaker 2>because not only are you able to share that with people,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're able to allow people to see that that's

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<v Speaker 2>okay to do as well. And it's such a beautiful thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It should be so celebrated to be able to feel

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<v Speaker 2>all of those big emotions as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Just to sidestep all of that, because that's a different podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>grief and bereavement. I was wondering, if you didn't like

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<v Speaker 1>coffee before, you must certainly hate it now.

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<v Speaker 2>You know What's so funny? Within me, I should be like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, I'm never having coffee again, but it

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<v Speaker 2>fueled my fire even more to just go tackle a

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<v Speaker 2>coffee dessert and just absolutely nail it. That means, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>trying more coffee, but yeah, I do hate it, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that actually stemmed from waking up in the

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<v Speaker 2>morning in my family household as a child and making

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<v Speaker 2>my mom and dad an instant coffee, and one person

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<v Speaker 2>would have one teaspoon of next cafe or whatever the

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<v Speaker 2>hell it was, and then my mom would have one

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<v Speaker 2>and a half, and they'd all have different sugar and

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<v Speaker 2>stuff and this and that, and so that instant smell

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<v Speaker 2>every morning of instant coffee was actually a negative connotation

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<v Speaker 2>as opposed to something that I really enjoyed doing. So

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's where it stems from. And now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to have that negative experience again of smelling

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<v Speaker 2>coffee because it's set me out of master chef obviously

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<v Speaker 2>being vitnamere is Italian. As I talk about, I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>perfect candidate, but I'm also a creative and I sleep

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<v Speaker 2>very late, like I sleep between midnight and two am

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much every day, and that's probably being generous. So

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<v Speaker 2>I am the perfect candidate to be a coffee drinker.

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<v Speaker 2>And everybody that will go off and get a coffee

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning, whether it's for work or a friend

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, they're always asking me because they just expect

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<v Speaker 2>me to drink coffee. And I swear once every two

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<v Speaker 2>days I have to say I don't drink coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>This is something we need to rectify.

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<v Speaker 2>Trust me, all of my friends think that and they

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<v Speaker 2>try to change it, but it's never happening. Vietnamese coffee

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<v Speaker 2>different because it's very sweet, like condensed milk and all

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<v Speaker 2>that sort of stuff, which is why I took the

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<v Speaker 2>inspiration from it. But yeah, that's the only real thing

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<v Speaker 2>that I would have coffee.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, desserts aren't necessarily my strongest competency of food either.

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<v Speaker 1>When I saw that, I related very hard. Before I

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<v Speaker 1>get into why that is so hard? What did you

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<v Speaker 1>learn from Adriano Zimbo working with him? Because Sweetweek was

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<v Speaker 1>so crazy and those desserts were so incredible to see

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<v Speaker 1>being put together. Was there something in particular you learned

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<v Speaker 1>from him?

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<v Speaker 2>He was so generous in offering an advice or feedback

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<v Speaker 2>on and off the screen. He's got such an empire

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<v Speaker 2>for sweets, and he's an icon in terms of macarons

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<v Speaker 2>or shoes and a cock and bush, even though they're

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<v Speaker 2>also scary desert than technical and precise. He has given

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<v Speaker 2>us some sort of connection to a story or an

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<v Speaker 2>experience or a feeling in terms of desserts and emotions,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's crazy how he's done that through these also

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<v Speaker 2>complex and difficult dishes. And I think that's what I

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<v Speaker 2>learned the most from Adriana Zumbo is that you really

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<v Speaker 2>do have to be able to tell a story or

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<v Speaker 2>have this connection with deserts because they can be easily

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<v Speaker 2>overshadowed by the complexity of it and the technicalities of

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<v Speaker 2>the dish itself or whatever you're making. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's so easy to do with deserts because we just

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<v Speaker 2>think of it of it's a highly skillful thing to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to make desserts and to balance this and

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<v Speaker 2>that and have all these techniques within it. It's so

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<v Speaker 2>easy to forget the story and the connection of emotion

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<v Speaker 2>through food with desserts sometimes because you've got that overshadowing.

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<v Speaker 2>But what adrian Zumbo reminds us all is that the

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<v Speaker 2>importance is a story and how it leaves an impact

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<v Speaker 2>after the meal, because it's not just something that you've

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<v Speaker 2>baked for a certain amount of time or coort a

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<v Speaker 2>certin amount measurement in it's a story that you're left with.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a nostalgia. It's the new memories you're creating, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to create an impact that will be remembered

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<v Speaker 2>for life. When you walk out those doors or when

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<v Speaker 2>you finish your meal. I finally learned that towards the end.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's what I cook with most of the time.

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<v Speaker 2>But being a person that's not a dessert coal, I

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<v Speaker 2>was focusing on the technique. I think that's what I

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<v Speaker 2>brought with me after the end of that week, is that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the story is important to have that long lasting impact.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're watching back, there is a lot of stories

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<v Speaker 2>connected to it, and some people are like, oh, another

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<v Speaker 2>sub story, another story, this and that and the other

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<v Speaker 2>pide of like, this is what food does. This is

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<v Speaker 2>the beauty of it. It does connect food with people

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<v Speaker 2>or with love or emotions, and I think people accept

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<v Speaker 2>it without noticing. Sometimes when you're watching a TV show,

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<v Speaker 2>it's obviously more profound because they're talking about it with

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<v Speaker 2>a drama music behind it and all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that is the beauty of food, and the

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<v Speaker 2>beauty of Master Chef is that it really allows that

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<v Speaker 2>to sing and sells it.

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<v Speaker 1>How hard was that macaron challenge? Though? Because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>mind a macaron every now and again. It mainly begs

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<v Speaker 1>my mum's obsessed with them, so Mum's always, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>forcing them upon me and maybe over time I've built

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<v Speaker 1>up a taste for it. But I find that that

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<v Speaker 1>would be very stressful, you know. I also find having

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<v Speaker 1>a challenge that determines who cooks that could come down

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<v Speaker 1>to sort of luck and chance. Do you worry that

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<v Speaker 1>that's maybe not the best way to select who has

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<v Speaker 1>to be in an elimination cook.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure, I'm not even gonna lie or sugarcoat

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<v Speaker 2>that pun intended. I think that was the hardest thing

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<v Speaker 2>about just entering top ten as well and trying to

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<v Speaker 2>push beyond that, which is obviously closer to the win.

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<v Speaker 2>The angle for everyone at that point is that our

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<v Speaker 2>elimination spot was determined by the luck of the door

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<v Speaker 2>of what flavor you get, and also so many overwhelming

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts in your head and in your gut that you've

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<v Speaker 2>got when you're trying to guess is you know, don't

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<v Speaker 2>second guess yourself flavors, but also looking at the colors

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<v Speaker 2>and then try to take all the stressful, nervous feelings

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<v Speaker 2>and anxiety feelings of knowing that you're just into a

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<v Speaker 2>cutthroat three person elimination, which is the first three person

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<v Speaker 2>elimination as well for the competition. There's just so many

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<v Speaker 2>things that it did. You have, like this looming cloud

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<v Speaker 2>over my head beyond the hundreds of macarons that I

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<v Speaker 2>was sharing me straight dead in the eye.

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<v Speaker 1>I was intimidationd well. I was really intimidated, but also

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<v Speaker 1>was angry because I'm like luck, chance and circumstances in

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<v Speaker 1>this environment about such a small amount of people being

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<v Speaker 1>selected to cook in an elimination cook seemed like there's

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<v Speaker 1>a possibility that organizing a challenge like the flavor of

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<v Speaker 1>desserts could favor some contestants who, you know, maybe sweet

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<v Speaker 1>is their specialty, So like organizing a challenge at that

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<v Speaker 1>point that maybe not as dessert being your favorite thing

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<v Speaker 1>becomes like an inconvenience for you even more.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think I would have loved that for

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<v Speaker 2>me at the start of the week. To then progress

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<v Speaker 2>into a challenge where you cook off for immunity rather

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<v Speaker 2>than elimination, in my mind, that seems a lot more yeah, understandable, logical,

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, it is what it is. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>competition at the end of the day, and we signed

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves up to this, so you just face it. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's why I had to, you know, you couldn't see

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<v Speaker 2>it there, but I felt it internally. I didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>such a brave face watch to go over it, but

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<v Speaker 2>I felt it internally that I was going to power

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<v Speaker 2>through it. I was going to battle through. And I

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<v Speaker 2>made the promise to myself that I was going to

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<v Speaker 2>back myself throughout that cook as much as I can

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<v Speaker 2>because I learned so much at the end of that

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<v Speaker 2>week that I had to carry that on but also

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<v Speaker 2>still wear my armor that I always do.

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<v Speaker 1>I always think about what would you do to change

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<v Speaker 1>the competition? Is there something that now that you've come

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<v Speaker 1>out the other side of it, would you change something?

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess that's my question to you. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that they should take out? I mean, they're really

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<v Speaker 1>fun and they're great television moments, like all of the

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<v Speaker 1>tasting when you get blindfolded, all of these sorts of things, like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's great television. But do you think that that should

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<v Speaker 1>determine like a bonus something else and not necessarily determine

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<v Speaker 1>who's going to cook in those elimination corks?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I definitely would change that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, I hate that on the card when you

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<v Speaker 1>know when you're leaving the restaurant, there's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of advice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I ate hid in that at all. I would

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<v Speaker 2>not put a taste to send you into an elimination

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<v Speaker 2>because it is fifty percent Lork. It depends on where

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<v Speaker 2>you sit in that lineup. It depends on what flavor

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<v Speaker 2>you get. And yes, we're supposed to know a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of flavors, and you know we're supposed to have that knowledge,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, if you're getting something that's as easy

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<v Speaker 2>as banana I was supposed to, or like peanut butter

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<v Speaker 2>I got. I got peanut butter first, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>straight up like a peanut butter paste, right, But then

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<v Speaker 2>some of the other flavors they had to put that

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<v Speaker 2>in differently, so you're getting a different texture from the

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<v Speaker 2>one that you did last or what someone else might get.

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<v Speaker 2>So you might get the ingredient that it's in its

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<v Speaker 2>raw and purest form, or you might get the other one,

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<v Speaker 2>which is my second one, which was mint that I

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<v Speaker 2>guess basil, and it wasn't like straight up mint of

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<v Speaker 2>course spread onto a macaron. So there's two differences there,

0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:58.360
<v Speaker 2>and it you know, it comes down to life, but

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<v Speaker 2>it also comes down to your knowledge. So the fifty

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<v Speaker 2>to fifty game in about it not to send you

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<v Speaker 2>in an elimination thing.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, the reason why it's so stressful is because

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<v Speaker 1>of the way in which I make decisions in my

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<v Speaker 1>own life. Maybe my undiagnosed ADHD, I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 1>when I I will immediately think the answer is something,

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<v Speaker 1>and I always second guess my first thought and go

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<v Speaker 1>with my second thought, which is always wrong. And you'd

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<v Speaker 1>think over time that I'd learned not to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that's where it would be really confusing because

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<v Speaker 1>immediately sometimes you go, well, that's what the flavor is,

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<v Speaker 1>but ah, there's a different texture to that, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to go with option two, which is wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, And you really have to in those

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<v Speaker 2>TASSS challenges. You really have to listen to your gut

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<v Speaker 2>instinct and remind yourself that you do know what you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about, because the minute that you second guess, the

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<v Speaker 2>minute things start to go the opposite direction and you

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<v Speaker 2>just second guess the whole time, and then you start

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<v Speaker 2>bringing to other ingredients. It might be you're an overload

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<v Speaker 2>at that point, and I think that's when you start

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<v Speaker 2>to see, oh crap, this is where I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>go wrong. If you don't know instantly, then you're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to know, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And actually going back to something that we're talking about earlier

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<v Speaker 1>about social media, it just made me think of something,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is is this one of the only reality

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<v Speaker 1>shows where contestants are still allowed to have their social

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<v Speaker 1>media throughout the show? Like are you because like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of reality shows, they take their social media away

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<v Speaker 1>from participants or contestants. Are you able to interact with

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<v Speaker 1>fans and everyone freely, like there's no restrictions on any

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<v Speaker 1>of that during filming.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously it's very different to when it's on air. But

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<v Speaker 2>whilst it's on air, yeah, we're allowed to interact. We

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<v Speaker 2>have certain guidelines, of course, but I think, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>is very different to a lot of other shows. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not too sure that in the exact rules, but we're

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to interact. And I think that's also a really

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<v Speaker 2>nice part of Master Chef is the audience can be

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<v Speaker 2>a part of the experience real time and how it

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<v Speaker 2>watches and how it resonates with people by us being

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<v Speaker 2>able to interact and engage with our audience, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think that that's a cool aspect. It obviously can have

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<v Speaker 2>its pros and cons because the Internet is a wild

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<v Speaker 2>world space.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a scary place to be girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, but I think I think if you're able

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<v Speaker 2>to get through something like Master Chef as well, you

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<v Speaker 2>can have that strong cap on and get through the interweb.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I think the key thing there is that

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<v Speaker 2>we are able to engage with our audience and that

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<v Speaker 2>allows an even bigger celebration for everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I always think. I'm like, you're missing out

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<v Speaker 1>on that person understanding their brand, like if you remove

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<v Speaker 1>their ability to connect with people on social media, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe some of these shows are a little bit different

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<v Speaker 1>and the type of personality is a little bit different.

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<v Speaker 1>There's probably other factors that I'm not putting into place,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm always like, let that person interact with their audience,

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<v Speaker 1>like they know themselves better than anything. You're getting some

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<v Speaker 1>free publicity. This this is some extra work that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to do, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but let's be real, We're not going to get

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<v Speaker 2>the people from I don't know, maths to connect with

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<v Speaker 2>their audience in real time. But Master Chef is about

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<v Speaker 2>celebrating the connection of food and people, so it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>There bringing in a good point there, and I really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate that. I have been asking everyone as well. This

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<v Speaker 1>is so annoying. And I don't know if you've heard

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<v Speaker 1>any of my podcasts, but I've been asking people to

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<v Speaker 1>have there. Oh well, thank you for listening. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>asking people who their favorite judge and who they want

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<v Speaker 1>to win at this point? Can you help me out

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<v Speaker 1>with those two.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been dreading this question, but I've been preparing myself.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, you know, when you look in the mirror

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<v Speaker 2>and you give yourself this pep talk. I'm like, yep, bet,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got my answer. I'm ready to go. Let's good,

0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:27.760
<v Speaker 2>Let's rip off the band aid. You know what, everybody knows.

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<v Speaker 2>I love them anyway, so it's not gonna hurt. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not going to leave anyone but hurt's fine. Favorite judge

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<v Speaker 2>and of course love them more. But Poe hands down,

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<v Speaker 2>and she gives you advice on and off screen and

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<v Speaker 2>supports you through thick and thin, and she is just

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<v Speaker 2>the auntie that everybody loves and everybody needs in their life.

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<v Speaker 2>She is a beautiful person. And I think it also

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<v Speaker 2>helps that she came from a contestant perspective. Twice you

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<v Speaker 2>know she is very successful. Regardless of being the person

0:18:57.440 --> 0:19:00.360
<v Speaker 2>that came out to win, she has brought so much

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<v Speaker 2>success upon herself from working hard and perseverance and just

0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.720
<v Speaker 2>going through so many obstacles and coming out on the

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<v Speaker 2>other side winning for herself. And I think that that's

0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:13.720
<v Speaker 2>really beautiful and something that resonated with us a lot,

0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:16.040
<v Speaker 2>and she was able to support us so much through that,

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<v Speaker 2>so definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>Po and then also the fact that she put that

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<v Speaker 1>post on your Instagram as well, so lovely, like in

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<v Speaker 1>the comment.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I honestly, I have so many things that I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't written back to because it was very overwhelming, but

0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:30.680
<v Speaker 2>I was also just dealing with it. But there's so

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<v Speaker 2>many beautiful things that I need to get back to

0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:35.320
<v Speaker 2>and so many words I have to say still. But yes,

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<v Speaker 2>she's such a beautiful person, and that's what I mean.

0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:41.600
<v Speaker 2>She's she's so genuine, so authentic, and she always has

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<v Speaker 2>so much heart and love to give as well at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time, and yeah, like a part of her

0:19:46.560 --> 0:19:49.880
<v Speaker 2>reminds me of myself too, is she always has this ambition,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that's because she's an artist as well,

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<v Speaker 2>so I can really relate to her so she's an

0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:57.240
<v Speaker 2>artist and she's she has so much love to give,

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<v Speaker 2>but she's always such a hustler too, and she's got

0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:02.000
<v Speaker 2>very much and more time in between any of her days,

0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:04.239
<v Speaker 2>which is the same as me. But you know, at

0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:06.800
<v Speaker 2>the court, she still is willing to give her time

0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:08.800
<v Speaker 2>to you, and that's what I do as well as

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<v Speaker 2>much as I can.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're already putting your feet in those footsteps, like

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<v Speaker 1>think about those things, those comparisons, so like where you

0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:20.320
<v Speaker 1>can take this moving forward and coming from those beginnings

0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:22.919
<v Speaker 1>that Poe has had herself. I think it's really powerful

0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:25.040
<v Speaker 1>and there's a really strong message in that as well.

0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:28.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there definitely is, and thank you. Yeah, I feel

0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:31.520
<v Speaker 2>like I feel like it really made sense coming from

0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:33.480
<v Speaker 2>someone like Poe as well, to remind us all the

0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:36.120
<v Speaker 2>time that you didn't have to win to win, and

0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:39.360
<v Speaker 2>just being a master cheff in itself was a big

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<v Speaker 2>enough win for me. Obviously, it's deflating when you get

0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:45.440
<v Speaker 2>out and your journey gets cut short, shorter than you expected,

0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:47.720
<v Speaker 2>but it is still a win at the end of day.

0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:49.560
<v Speaker 2>It's such a huge accomplishment to be.

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<v Speaker 1>There, absolutely absolutely, and winning I don't think is also

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<v Speaker 1>the best thing ever either, I think that sometimes there

0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:59.080
<v Speaker 1>are challenges in winning. Sometimes the runner up in these

0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:03.960
<v Speaker 1>shows becomes the most successful, and that is because of

0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:06.600
<v Speaker 1>if they haven't let it gazump them, it's making them

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<v Speaker 1>work still that little bit harder.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's complacency in winning as well, and some people

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<v Speaker 2>fall into that chat and some people don't. And not

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<v Speaker 2>winning can also have its benefits too. You know, look

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<v Speaker 2>back Australia at Idol Shat and all.

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<v Speaker 1>He got robbed, but Anthony Clear would tell you that

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<v Speaker 1>he was robbed over Casey done. Anyway, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>different podcast. You get retrospective of all reality shows at something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're going to start a different episode. That's something

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<v Speaker 2>else to cover.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here for a girlfriend. I'm so into that. But

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<v Speaker 1>you have to tell me who you want to win

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, and this is even harder. I think

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<v Speaker 1>this question that has become even harder as the numbers

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<v Speaker 1>have become less. But you have to give it to me.

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<v Speaker 1>What have you got?

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<v Speaker 2>I have so many people that I want to win.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a whole different thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But just the one, just the one, it has to

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<v Speaker 1>be the one.

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<v Speaker 2>I know how this works. I've listened to you Van.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I feel it's such an asshole. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I say that all the time, but you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's you know, I can't remember it was. But

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<v Speaker 1>one of the other contestants said, I guess this is

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<v Speaker 1>why people listen as well, because it's a little ruthless

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<v Speaker 1>and people like being a bit ruthless. And I guess

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<v Speaker 1>you've probably enjoyed it at certain points when you've heard

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<v Speaker 1>other people's answers when it's not you in the position.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I loved it. I loved it, especially when Joshi,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was Joshi. He tried to flip in

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<v Speaker 2>like about twelve names and he's like this one, this

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<v Speaker 2>on this or that and then and then I got

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<v Speaker 2>slipped in this, so I was like, whoa.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeay, and then I would have cut him down. I

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<v Speaker 1>would have cut him down and said, give me the

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<v Speaker 1>one name. Yes, I'm doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>You did.

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<v Speaker 3>You definitely did, back to the question, and so I

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<v Speaker 3>would love all them to and of course to be

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<v Speaker 3>very diplomatic, but I think my answer would have to

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<v Speaker 3>be Harry.

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<v Speaker 2>He's my best mate in there, and he's grown so

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<v Speaker 2>much from the very beginning, and he's just got the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest heart as well, such a sensitive guy and so

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<v Speaker 2>full of heart and emotions too. But he is you know,

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<v Speaker 2>She's a beautiful man that has so much talent and

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<v Speaker 2>so much thought to his food and understanding of not

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<v Speaker 2>only fish but food is a whole and technique. And

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<v Speaker 2>he's grown so much throughout the competition that I would

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<v Speaker 2>love him to win. But I also love dush Alex.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's enough. That's enough. I'm done.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm done.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to love What is something from behind the

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<v Speaker 1>scenes though, something that you can share with me that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like a behind the scenes secret of your

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<v Speaker 1>time on the show, Like, what is something from you

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<v Speaker 1>that you thought, Wow, I really didn't know that about

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<v Speaker 1>what it would be like to be on this show.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a lot of downtime. I mean, it is O,

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<v Speaker 2>go go all the time, but there is also a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of downtime and waiting. And I feel like that's

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<v Speaker 2>just the kickback to everybody else waiting for me for

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<v Speaker 2>half their life when I'm always running late to get

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<v Speaker 2>to somewhere, and it's just paying me back to all

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<v Speaker 2>those times, all those years. But there is a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of waiting, and you have to be wise with your time.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether you're studying in between or in the green room,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's bloody mapping. And Alex Christy, she would take photos

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<v Speaker 2>of people fall in a sleep and she would get everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>But I said to her at the very beginning, you're

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<v Speaker 2>never going to get me sleeping, because A I don't nap,

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<v Speaker 2>and be I barely sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>And she never got you sleeping.

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<v Speaker 2>She never did. Okay, she never got me sleeping, so

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<v Speaker 2>she got everybody else pretty much catching a nap. It's

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<v Speaker 2>so much down time. And some people play p's and a's,

0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:21.160
<v Speaker 2>which is a card game. Some people nap. Some people

0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:23.359
<v Speaker 2>read books. You always typed Snares, who was reading like

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<v Speaker 2>seven books a day. Then you'd catch me snacking and

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<v Speaker 2>just like literally eating a slice of ham, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it was eight am or three pm, just snacking

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<v Speaker 2>from the fridge. It's like I turn our day most

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<v Speaker 2>of the time on average, So there's a lot of waiting. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It is truly incredible and a huge testament to the

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<v Speaker 2>show and to the people that are doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I just say I have thoroughly enjoyed talking to you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can't remember who said it to me, but

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<v Speaker 1>someone had said to wait too, get the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>speak to Jill because they throw enjoyed their time with you.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've been looking forward to this. It's maybe not

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<v Speaker 1>a surprise that I've talked as much as I have

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<v Speaker 1>with you today, but I'm in the audience and I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait to see what you do with this whole experience.

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<v Speaker 1>And thank you for being so generous with your time

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<v Speaker 1>chatting with me today.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, thank you so much for having you Ben. That

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<v Speaker 2>means a lot. I think I'm the worst at summarizing

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<v Speaker 2>and condensing eddiething. You'll probably learn that bom my Instagram

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<v Speaker 2>quotes to cards that I write or two letters. But

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<v Speaker 2>I really really did enjoy this chat, So thank you

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<v Speaker 2>so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, You're welcome. You're welcome. I said that in Marshall

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Hines's tone of voice, just as an Australian to leave

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<v Speaker 1>this on.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, do you want me to start breaking down

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<v Speaker 2>if angels brought me here?

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<v Speaker 1>Or we'll exit the podcast with that song? I'll count

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<v Speaker 1>you in. I'm only you.

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<v Speaker 2>I am. I am not there on a podcast. That

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<v Speaker 2>is one thing I cannot do.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, I've got a worst singing voice. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll let you go enjoy chatting to the media and

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<v Speaker 1>good luck with it all.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, Ben, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Lovely to chat. Take care