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Speaker 1: This is outspoken.

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Speaker 2: The podcast is not afraid to say exactly what you're thinking.

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Speaker 1: Our names are Amy Kate and Sophie Torborth.

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Speaker 2: We're identical triplets, but we often don't have identical opinions,

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Speaker 2: so sometimes things can get heeded. Outspoken covers all things

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Speaker 2: reality TV, influencers, entertainment, and issues facing women.

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Speaker 3: That is so fetched. Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 2: Today's episode is a rather special one because we're joined

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Speaker 2: by our best friend Olwen all the way from Brisbane,

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Speaker 2: So thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 3: Owen, Hello, well, and just.

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Speaker 2: To explain to the listeners, we decided we had to

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Speaker 2: have Olwan on because she'd probably be part of this

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Speaker 2: very best of friends, and we have been since high school.

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Speaker 2: And I think probably what bonded us was our love

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Speaker 2: of Harry Potter. I don't know if anyone wants to

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Speaker 2: expand on what level of love everyone had for Harry

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Speaker 2: Potter was Owen's first friend. So we met in English class.

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Speaker 2: So you say that as if you were her only

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Speaker 1: Met in English.

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Speaker 3: That far off the truth.

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Speaker 2: We met in English class, and I realized that you

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Speaker 2: were actually nice because you liked Harry Potter, and I thought, okay,

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Speaker 2: this is actually probably a friend for life.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 3: It was one of those awkward high school moments where

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Speaker 2: God, those planners were embarrassing. I was gonna say, I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you would be embarrassed by this, because

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Speaker 2: I think it's cool, Owen. But I remember, I think

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Speaker 2: it was year eight, and I can't remember which Harry

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Speaker 2: and you were dressed as Ginny Weasley, and I was like,

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Speaker 2: And then we had that incident where we all went

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Speaker 3: There's nothing was dressing up as Harry Potter Amerrican.

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Speaker 1: No, not at all.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think Owen we have to give Owen prop

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Speaker 2: not only for dressing as Ginny Weasley, but for also

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Speaker 2: putting up with our crap for so many years. She

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Speaker 2: has been a mediator, mediator and a referee. I was

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Speaker 2: going to say of our fights. We even went to

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Speaker 2: will talk a little bit I think about our Penang

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Speaker 1: But should we move on to the first topic.

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Speaker 2: So overnight there have been some images leaked by the

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Speaker 1: They are of.

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Speaker 2: Course of Dean Laidley, who was the former Kangaroo's coach

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Speaker 2: which is on a Monday afternoon. Well, he was arrested

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Speaker 3: The first thought I had was this person does identify

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Speaker 2: a figure that forty one percent of transgender people have

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not compounds the fact that, yeah, he is in

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Speaker 2: I suppose we've also got to think about the fact

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Speaker 2: Has anyone seen the latest from Sam Newman because he's

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Speaker 3: I do think that that's a really valid point because

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Speaker 2: My initial thought was because because football is obviously such

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Speaker 2: Can I just say so if I'm so proud of you,

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Speaker 3: hot to handle. His whole mo o was kind of

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00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,240
Speaker 3: that he with a young party boy. Yeah, you know,

440
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:07,040
Speaker 3: looking on on the island until they realize the rules.

441
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,920
Speaker 2: While restrictions are starting to ease around the country, many

442
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,159
Speaker 2: of us are feeling excited to leave isolation. However, there

443
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,280
Speaker 2: are many who are feeling a bit of anxiety. What

444
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 2: do you guys think about the fact that we've all

445
00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,360
Speaker 2: got used to this sort of lifestyle now, but we're

446
00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,399
Speaker 2: now having to go outside of our bubble. I think

447
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,000
Speaker 2: we should go to Owen first, because she's the one

448
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,640
Speaker 2: who actually has really awful restrictions in place in Queensland.

449
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I guess in Queensland they've been a little

450
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:34,240
Speaker 3: stricter as they have I believe in Victorian yourself. Well,

451
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,520
Speaker 3: so this weekend was actually the first weekend we were

452
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,199
Speaker 3: allowed to go out to national parks and picnic areas

453
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 3: as long as they're within fifty ks a bove home.

454
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Speaker 3: So I'm very happy for things were being listed as

455
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 3: long as it's safe, because yeah, I'm getting cabin fever

456
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 3: in my house and my apartment, so I was pretty

457
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:55,639
Speaker 3: happy for you.

458
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 2: How are you going to feel going back to work,

459
00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 2: because soph and I already work from home. Have you've

460
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 2: been enjoying it or are you dreading or looking forward

461
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:05,439
Speaker 2: to going back to work?

462
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,359
Speaker 3: Elements of both. I'm really looking forward to the social

463
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 3: side and seeing people every day and chatting to my

464
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 3: work friends and all that sort of thing. I guess,

465
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 3: like the coffee clothes are pretty good because I work

466
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 3: in an office environment, so I've actually quite liked doing

467
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 3: my active way. I stay it is nice. Yeah, so

468
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 3: I guess that's good and bad for both. I guess

469
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Speaker 3: one thing it highlights to me is the options for

470
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Speaker 3: flexible working that I think a lot of workplaces in

471
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 3: the past you didn't think were possible, but obviously they

472
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 3: are because we're all doing it now.

473
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.

474
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Speaker 2: I think people are realizing that people actually do work

475
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 2: from home. So when you are home sometimes you can

476
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 2: get so much more work done. And that's what Sof

477
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 2: and I've been saying for all these years, all the

478
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,199
Speaker 2: years we've been working from home. So it's kind of

479
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 2: nice for us for people to be able to experience that.

480
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 2: But just back to the topic of the anxiety associated

481
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Speaker 2: with us going back into normal life. At some stage,

482
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Speaker 2: I must admit I want everything to go back to normal,

483
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 2: but there is I have personally felt a little bit

484
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 2: of anxiety because I'm enjoying some of the perks of

485
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 2: being at home and getting that time to focus on,

486
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 2: you know, things that you haven't had a chance to

487
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 2: focus on. And it's funny that you say that because

488
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 2: you normally work from home. No, I know, but I

489
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 2: think it's when you go out, you know, you go

490
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 2: out to restaurants or on the weekend, you'll always try

491
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 2: and jam a lot in. But now it's like, well,

492
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 2: I've got time to think and I'm planning what i

493
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 2: want to do and everything like that. Well, there was

494
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 2: a really interesting piece in the Latch, and it was

495
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 2: a journalist who spoke about how she's feeling really anxious

496
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 2: to go back into the real world because of the

497
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 2: pressure to meet social expectations and the fear of missing out. So,

498
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Speaker 2: I mean, at the moment, we're all on a pretty

499
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 2: level playing field with social media. I mean you look

500
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 2: on there at the moment, everyone's either playing a board game,

501
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 2: going for a walk, or doing pretty mundane things around

502
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 2: the house. But as soon as where you know, everyone

503
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 2: keeps talking about that moment when we're told that we

504
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 2: can leave our houses. Can you imagine the showing off

505
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 2: online that is going to happen, and how you're going

506
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 2: to You're not really doing anything.

507
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 1: That impressive to celebrate.

508
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,719
Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting you say that, because I think it

509
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 2: was in Turkey, there's this awful story that came out

510
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 2: about how they ended their very strict quarantine and a

511
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 2: girl went out for a walk finally, and she took

512
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,919
Speaker 2: a photo to celebrate right on the edge of a

513
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 2: cliff and ended up falling off because she slipped.

514
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 1: On the grass.

515
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 2: So it's yeah, the lengths people will go to to

516
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 2: publicize that kind of moment, it's crazy.

517
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,479
Speaker 3: Wonder I wonder if the way that they publicize their

518
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 3: lives online will change for the long run. I wonder

519
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,719
Speaker 3: if now this idea of showing off your house and

520
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 3: what you do at home will stay after this.

521
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Speaker 2: But do you think people like the fact that everyone's

522
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 2: on an evil even playing field, as in, you know,

523
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 2: we're so used to seeing influences. I'm Intra Lanka, I'm

524
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 2: in Thailand, I'm in New York, I'm doing this, I'm

525
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 2: at Coachella, and we're like, oh, I'm at my bloody

526
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,919
Speaker 2: boring nine to five. But now all of those influences

527
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 2: there are the same boat they're stuck inside. Do you

528
00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 2: think that's part of it that people are worried about

529
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 2: what's to come. Well, that's interesting because obviously a lot

530
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 2: of people are worried about people's mental health being stuck

531
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 2: and isolated from everything. But then social media and that

532
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 2: fear of missing out also affects people's mental health. It'll

533
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 2: be interesting to see. I think there will be some

534
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 2: people that are affected in a positive way. And then,

535
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 2: but do you guys think that's the thing that everyone

536
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 2: kind of likes, that we're on an even playing field. Yeah,

537
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 2: I touched on it before. I think it is the

538
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 2: whole level playing field thing. I mean it also, I

539
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 2: feel like it's also showing us what is important, because

540
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 2: you know, sometimes you think having a brand new outfit

541
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 2: to where on the weekend is the most important thing

542
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 2: in the world, and this has really taken away any

543
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 2: of that vanity at the moment.

544
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Speaker 3: Well, I agree with that. I think that people suspected

545
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 3: will have changed as a result of this. I think

546
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 3: a lot of things will go back to normal. But

547
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 3: I think I don't know about anybody else, but I've

548
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 3: definitely found that you really evaluate what's important to you

549
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 3: when you're stuck in your home a lot of the time,

550
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 3: and what you really want to do when you're out

551
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 3: of violation. And I can tell you what I don't

552
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 3: want to go out and just spend money on clothes

553
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 3: or that sort of thing, like that's not the top

554
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 3: of my mind. What's the things I want to do

555
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 3: after I get out.

556
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is so true, and I felt the same. Obviously,

557
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 2: my life has been affected quite differently to you guys,

558
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 2: Like I've been made redundant from my job. I've had

559
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,959
Speaker 2: time to sit and reflect, and for me, I realized

560
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 2: that I really was burnt out from the last five

561
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: years of being involved in sport, and it has been

562
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 2: this weird thing where I've actually got to sit back

563
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 2: and you know, exercise in the morning and go for

564
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,120
Speaker 2: a walk and kind of reflect on what I want

565
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 2: to do. And while that's good, at the same time,

566
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 2: it's really scary because you can start to feel a

567
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 2: little bit directionless when you don't have that job that

568
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 2: you've always had. And then also I feel like there's

569
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 2: a bit of pressure to then have that kind of

570
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: awakening moment where you discover what you really should be

571
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 2: doing or should you be doing something different or I

572
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 2: think it's it's kind of scary, but I suppose it's

573
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 2: it's in a good way because there are also a

574
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 2: lot of other people that are experiencing the same thing. Well,

575
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 2: it's the only it's really the biggest time in history

576
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 2: when we've all, you know, we live such fast paced lives.

577
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 2: It's the only time we've really had time to sit

578
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 2: down and reflect on our lives and think whether we're

579
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 2: happy about certain things. And I think, as you were saying, oh,

580
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 2: and it's so true, there's some things that you know,

581
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: perhaps I would have felt were important and now I

582
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 2: just don't care.

583
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: About it all.

584
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 2: Like I think I've enjoyed going back to I think

585
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: what you kind of I kind of got like a

586
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 2: really homely family vibe of what it was like when

587
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 2: you were little, you know, playing board.

588
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: Games when you weren't allowed to do anything.

589
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I kind of like it in a way

590
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 2: because I do enjoy going for a walk or exercising.

591
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: But that's the thing.

592
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 2: It's the first time because we all are trained to.

593
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: Have this idea that you have to work, work, work, work, work,

594
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: you can't do anything else.

595
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: But it's the time where we can focus on ourselves

596
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 2: and our fitness and our health and our mindset. So

597
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 2: I think that's what people are scared about. It just

598
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 2: returning to just a focus on work and that's it.

599
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I also think about housing as well, because I

600
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: live in a unit. It's not a small unit, but

601
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 3: I live in a unit in an inner city suburb,

602
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 3: and being locked in a unit of whatever size it is,

603
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 3: you do think, you know, I have lived in Housard

604
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 3: a kind of bigger guard, and that's the thing, and

605
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 3: you really miss that when you're home a lot more.

606
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 3: But I never while I've been in Britain, I haven't

607
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 3: been home that much. Like will go out and be

608
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 3: we're lucky enough they do that, so we go out

609
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 3: and do that stuff. But now that I'm here, I'm like, oh, okay,

610
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 3: I kind of missed my guard and then my bigger house.

611
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: I think.

612
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: The thing that is so interesting though about this whole

613
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 2: time is it really shows how quickly we adapt to

614
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 2: certain situations.

615
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: The fact that it's been six.

616
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 2: Weeks and everyone is kind of used to this lifestyle

617
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 2: now and feeling scared to go back to normal. It's

618
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 2: really interesting. Yeah, you can see how people get institutionalized

619
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 2: in jails. I'm not trying to say that our homes

620
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 2: are jails like Ellen DeGeneres Scott slammed for, because it's

621
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: certainly not a jail. Yes, well we're not all living

622
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: in mansions. But yeah, it is interesting because you do

623
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 2: get so used to your little routine, and I think

624
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 2: a lot of people will be grieving the end of

625
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 2: their ISO routines and actually be looking back at this

626
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 2: time and thinking, Wow, I had so much time, but

627
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: the end of banana bread and thing has gone better

628
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 2: when you look back on it. It's like when memories

629
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 2: stop up on Facebook and that nostalgie you're like, oh,

630
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,959
Speaker 2: that was actually so good then when it was actually

631
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 2: you know, I personally can't wait for this shit to

632
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: be over. But just.

633
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 3: The same I totally agree. I can't want it for

634
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 3: it to be over, but I can see that it

635
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 3: would be It would be tempting to stay in this

636
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 3: sort of situation ignoring the virus, especially if you had

637
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 3: like young kids or that, but the thing and you

638
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 3: have all those precious moments that you get with them

639
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: being home a bit more. I think that would be

640
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 3: really impacting.

641
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 2: I actually had some really interesting thoughts from Gary Vee

642
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 2: and he was talking on his podcast, and he's actually

643
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: talking about an interview he did with Carl and Jackie Oh,

644
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 2: and apparently Kyle told him that he was too positive

645
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 2: and he said, well, I'm positive about the COVID nineteen

646
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 2: situation because while some people have lost their lives, think

647
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: about all the people whose lives have been saved. For instance,

648
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 2: there's been no heavy traffic. Obviously, we've we've had some

649
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: deaths of some police officers, which has been awful in Australia.

650
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 2: But think about how many people's lives have been saved

651
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: from not going out, from not being hit by a car,

652
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 2: from not doing this, or you know, there could have

653
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: been a plane crash. It's crazy if you think about

654
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: it in such an optimistic way like that, Like I'd

655
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: never thought about that before, and I was like.

656
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: That's so true.

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Speaker 2: Why there are so many people dying of coronavirus, one

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Speaker 2: of us could have been hit by a car going

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Speaker 2: to work. Saying that, I think that sadly, it's also

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Speaker 2: taken a huge toll on people's mental health. So it

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Speaker 2: would be interesting after this has happened to see the

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Speaker 2: statistics on suicide. Yeah, well, I suppose. For me, I

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Speaker 2: just hope that we take some of the positive learnings

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Speaker 2: from this experience and they sort of trickle through, particularly

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Speaker 2: into our working lives, because I think there will be

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Speaker 2: a lot of people that are reflecting on Hey, that

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Speaker 2: networking meeting that I went to instead of going to

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Speaker 2: my daughter's netball game isn't actually important anymore. And hopefully

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Speaker 2: now we can have more family time because of this.

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Speaker 2: Not to be all doom and gloom, but I sadly

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Speaker 2: think that with the pressures of a potential recession and

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Speaker 2: businesses closing down, I think that we will returned to

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Speaker 2: a more manic work c life. Sadly, so let's just

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Speaker 2: enjoy our ISO days left. So we're introducing our new segment,

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Speaker 2: which is called Awkward Turtle, where we reveal some awkward

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Speaker 2: embarrassing moments about ourselves. Now, Oh, when you were going

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Speaker 2: to kick it off because you have a story that

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Speaker 2: we haven't heard yet that involves all of us.

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Speaker 3: Well, I was just thinking back. I was trying to

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Speaker 3: think of something that involved all of us that was

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Speaker 3: awkward or embarrassing or something like that, and.

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Speaker 1: I yeah, eight to twelve.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, actually, because I remember the time where we were

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Speaker 4: wanted the movies and we walked around the corner into

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Speaker 4: the cinema and one of you guys.

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Speaker 3: I think, said to me that there were some people

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Speaker 3: sitting in us things at that particular cinema days Simuss

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Speaker 3: and so I just, you know, got off of my

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Speaker 3: high horse and I like walked up the steps and

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Speaker 3: I went up to these people were like, excuse me,

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Speaker 3: you're in us.

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Speaker 4: Which is really.

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Speaker 3: And it turned out that they weren't enough.

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Speaker 4: Things were a rope.

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Speaker 2: I remember back when we used to go to Rundle

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Speaker 2: Street a lot to eat dinner, and there were the

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Speaker 2: times when people would be smoking, like dead smoking near us,

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Speaker 2: and I just remember, I'm surprised now thinking back to

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Speaker 2: it that we had the guts to be like stop

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Speaker 2: it or like I just remember people being like, we

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Speaker 2: were so rude to the people that were sorry, I mean,

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Speaker 2: how dare you breathe your cancerous freaking cigarette over us?

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Speaker 1: Seriously?

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Speaker 2: Leading on from that own, I remember a particularly embarrassing

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Speaker 2: moment for myself when we all did a girl's holiday

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Speaker 2: to Penang a number of years ago. I think we

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Speaker 2: were twenty three at the time. We refused to wear

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Speaker 2: any flat shoes, despite being on holiday, like it was

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Speaker 2: back in the day when all we would wear was

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Speaker 2: high heels, and despite being so much.

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Speaker 1: Taller than everybody there.

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Speaker 2: And I remember I bought this ridiculously high pair of

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Speaker 2: wedges were they were Do you guys remember them?

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Speaker 1: They had these real retro colors.

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Speaker 2: They were enormous, and for some reason I decided to

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Speaker 2: wear them to the market.

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Speaker 1: And I believe you had a pair on us.

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Speaker 3: You own I did, but I were high than mind.

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Speaker 3: There was the rainbow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, so we're walking down the markets, you know, getting

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Speaker 2: away from some of the people working there, and I

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Speaker 2: totally stacked it down this little hill.

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Speaker 1: It was so embarrassing. Do you know what?

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Speaker 2: On the same trip, I recall falling over in Singapore

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Speaker 2: while walking with wedges. We're going over to yeah, I

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Speaker 2: and I just pretended like it didn't hurt. You know,

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Speaker 2: when you're fall and you're like and you're like dying inside.

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Speaker 2: Remember falling. I don't know if I was on this

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Speaker 2: trip or another trip in front of a man from

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Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia and he oh, I think he tripped me over. Oh,

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Speaker 2: And then I was really rude and he was really

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Speaker 2: surprised that a female had talked about it. But isn't

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Speaker 2: it crazy though, because in day to day life now

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Speaker 2: I just try and avoid wearing any sort of heel

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Speaker 2: where possible, Like it just makes me feel so old

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Speaker 2: now to think of that.

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Speaker 3: I know, like I don't think I wear any work it.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's probably all we have time for. Thank you

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Speaker 2: so much, Owen for joining.

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Speaker 3: Us, Thank you for having me. It's been fun. I

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Speaker 3: listened to a lot of.

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Speaker 1: Podcast from what we called you that was the last

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Speaker 1: one you were on.

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Speaker 4: Just do that.

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Speaker 2: Well, next time you're in Adelaide, we'll have to have

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Speaker 2: a proper sit down chat so we can all be

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Speaker 2: in the same room. I think we should tell some

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Speaker 2: war stories next time about high school and maybe some

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Speaker 2: stories that if there are any young listeners listening that

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Speaker 2: they can learn from m sounds good, don't wear wedges

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Speaker 2: and anything like that. Anyway, Well, if you did enjoy

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Speaker 2: listening to this podcast, we would love if you could

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Speaker 2: share it on your instant story, so be sure to

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Speaker 2: tag us so we can reshare it. And we have

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Speaker 2: also loved that people have been joining our community. There's

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Speaker 2: a few legends in there at the moment, so if

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Speaker 2: you'd like to jump on in and join, that would

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Speaker 2: be great. We're probably going to put up for people

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Speaker 2: to share their own awkward turtle moments, so that should

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Speaker 2: be a bit of fun. And thanks for joining on

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Speaker 2: when you're one of the members, so people can have

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Speaker 1: A chat with in there if they're like