1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: This is gem Nation with Jones Brendan. 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,159 Speaker 2: You've used a lot of our show today to congratulate 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: yourself on the fact that New South Wales government has 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 2: backflipped on a plan to spend twenty five million dollars 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 2: on a new flagpole with the Sydney Harbor Bridge already 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 2: because it is Nadoc week, the indigenous flag is flying 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: where the New South Wales flag often is, but that 8 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: will now be permanent, so no new flagpole will go up. 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 3: You brought this to the table. 10 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 4: I brought it to the table because I was watching 11 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 4: PD's news last night. Yeah, and Pde dropped this bombshe 12 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 4: making news. 13 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 5: The state government has just scrapped its plan to spend 14 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 5: bade million dollars wrapping you up a new flagpole for 15 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 5: the Sydney Harbor Bridge. The Aboriginal flag will instead replace 16 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 5: the New South Wales flag, which will be moved to 17 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 5: a new home on Macquarie Streets. 18 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 3: And what and what about when I spoke to the 19 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 3: flag lady, She's. 20 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: Not the flag lady, she's the Minister for Metropolitan Roads. 21 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 3: Can you run it past John, run it past it? 22 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 2: Shift to run it past the men. 23 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 3: He's the Premier he's the Premier, isn't it. 24 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: Or Natalie's the minister for this? 25 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 4: Well past the guys just spitball and say hey guys, 26 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 4: I know and you know when the PowerPoint presentation is going, 27 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 4: what about we don't put up the third pole and 28 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 4: we just take down the New South Wales one put 29 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 4: out front of the Government House. We all appreciate New 30 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 4: South Wales and then we got the two flags boom 31 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 4: money saying. 32 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: Well Natalie, now you see what I have to work 33 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: with every day and I appreciate your time. 34 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: Common sense. 35 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 3: I was at the parish pump. I'm like, you're the 36 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 3: eye of the storm. 37 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 4: One of these on the twenty first of July when 38 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 4: I said that I've gone straight through, well the powers. 39 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: Of stop talking, the powers of corridors, and government does 40 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: listen to yourself anyway, the powers and corridors. The powers 41 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: of corridors lead to a very small door where you're involved. 42 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: But I did see a tweet from Ben Fordham of 43 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: course yesterday who said that the New South Wales government 44 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: has backflipped on this plan. He said the premier has listened. 45 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: Common sense wins. I don't think it's fair brand that 46 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: it looks like Ben Fordham is taking your thunder because 47 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 2: you're the power of corridors right around here. I've taken 48 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: the liberty. 49 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 3: He's like a gatling gun. 50 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 4: He just goes and says all this stuff and then 51 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 4: he takes credit for it. 52 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 2: Well, I've taken the liberty of contacting his executive producer, 53 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 2: James Willis, who joins us now, Hello. 54 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: James, Hello both, Good morning. 55 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 3: James morning. 56 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: Ben's on holidays we here. 57 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 3: That's outrageous slack. 58 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think he's entitled to a break. He's 59 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: just got a big, long slog campaigning to have this 60 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: twenty five million dollar spend overturned. And look, I think guys, 61 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: I think we're splitting hairs here. But ultimately the one 62 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,119 Speaker 1: two punch from two GB and Ben and the rest 63 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: of the two GV workday and also some you know, 64 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: some side campaigning from yourself has has really made this 65 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: decision what it is. So I think we both deserve 66 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: a bit of a panele. 67 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 3: I agree one side camp the one two points. 68 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 4: So we're the one and then you guys came along 69 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 4: and we don't have the might of your network. 70 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 2: Well let's look at when when when did you first 71 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: discuss this, because I know that we Jonesy first. 72 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 3: Did twenty first of straight onto the flag. 73 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: Lady, But what twenty first of July last year? 74 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 3: Twenty first of July, just last year? When June twenty 75 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 3: first of June. Yeah, twenty first of June. 76 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: Okay, well, look we've checked the records and I look again. 77 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to be splitting airs here, but Ben 78 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 1: had the Premier don Perrite on at eight fifteen on 79 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: the Monday June twenty and the question to him was 80 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: why not just replace the new South Wales flag. 81 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: With the Oh? What did you both? Brend? 82 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: Then I think what's happened is I think Jones he's 83 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: heard our podcastify then Fordham and then you know, you 84 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: guys have run with it the next day, which is. 85 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 4: Great, James, That's where you're mistaken, because I've got a 86 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 4: live If I'm not listening to Fordham's podcast. 87 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 3: Well, what can we say? I think it's what I think. 88 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 3: I think we're in. I think we're. 89 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: Let's go back to the power of corridors and stay 90 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: there for a long time. 91 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 4: James, you find Ben, do you wear any secret you 92 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 4: want to divulge about Ben? 93 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: Why? Well, he's away. Is he a fair employer? Do 94 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 3: you like him? 95 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: Absolutely? He's extremely generous, looks after his staff, takes us 96 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: out to lunch all the time. 97 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 3: We don't need to hear that rubbish. 98 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 1: There's not a bad word to say about him at all. 99 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: Well, look, it's against the lord to take stuff out 100 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: to lunch. IM was telling our staff. 101 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 3: That, really, James, you've done enough. James, thank you. 102 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 2: And how do you feel about Jones's plan to put 103 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 2: a giant flag with his face on? 104 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 5: It? 105 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 4: Is what I suggested, This is what the people of 106 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 4: New South Wales want, James. 107 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: I love that, My aunt would love that. Hey, before 108 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: we go, can I request the song about how this works? 109 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 3: What would would you like to hear? 110 00:04:58,320 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: Fleetwood Mac? 111 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've already played one of those. 112 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: We played Rhiannon this morning. 113 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 1: You can never play too much, but. 114 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 3: There's a good chance we'll be playing in the next 115 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 3: half hour as well. Mate. 116 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: Thank you, James. 117 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think I like the idea of 118 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 3: the one two punch there. 119 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 2: I like the idea of a power of corridors