Speaker 1: Laura, come on, hello everyone though, Hello, everybody here we go.
Speaker 2: Hi, guys.
Speaker 3: Do you know why I am so excited today?
Speaker 4: Because she just saw us obviously, Laura, Hey, you guys
Speaker 4: always make me happy.
Speaker 3: No kids are here, No, no.
Speaker 5: No, I love my children. That's a horrible thing to say.
Speaker 5: Miss them every day. No, it's because you know on Stan,
Speaker 5: have you guys seen a series Doctor Death?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, brilliant, phenomenal.
Speaker 5: Okay, so they're bringing out season two of Doctor Death
Speaker 5: and I am so obsessed, Like, I am so invested
Speaker 5: in this series. Like, if you haven't seen the first
Speaker 5: series of Doctor Death, you've got to go and watch it.
Speaker 5: It's based on a true story. It's actually based on
Speaker 5: a podcast which came out first, and it's around this
Speaker 5: doctor who he's a surgeon and it was based between
Speaker 5: twenty eleven and twenty thirteen and he operated on over
Speaker 5: forty patients and maimed or killed every single patient that
Speaker 5: he operated on. It is wild and he's now serving
Speaker 5: his life in prison for it. But it follows that story.
Speaker 5: So I'm so invested in season two.
Speaker 4: Many more in it two. And she's such a brilliant actress.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I know, you're obsessed with her.
Speaker 4: I love her, I can't fold. I think she's actually
Speaker 4: a better actress and a singer.
Speaker 2: Controversial, I agree with you.
Speaker 1: Well that's December twenty two on Stand season two, Doctor Death.
Speaker 3: I am so about this.
Speaker 2: I wonder if we can get the doctor on the show.
Speaker 3: Do you reckon he ad, call in from prison?
Speaker 2: I wonder of death or call death to call the show?
Speaker 3: All right, stick stick around?
Speaker 2: Well after that, no, guys, but.
Speaker 4: Do stick around please because we do have a really
Speaker 4: incredible ask on cart. We've had someone call up with
Speaker 4: a bit of a conundrum. Yeah, yeah, yeah, next.
Speaker 1: Also a thousand bucks cash up for grams on the
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Speaker 2: Let's go. Let's do this right.
Speaker 6: Now, ask mcata.
Speaker 5: Okay, So, asking cut is something that we do on
Speaker 5: the show every Thursday. It's where you call in with
Speaker 5: your deepest, your darkest, your most problematic problems and we
Speaker 5: do our best to answer them.
Speaker 3: We have a caller today. Her name is Sally, and
Speaker 3: Sally's little bit.
Speaker 5: Hi, Sally, A little bit concerned about an engagement or
Speaker 5: hit us?
Speaker 2: Sal?
Speaker 6: Yeah, what happened?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 6: I have been with my partner for eight years now, right,
Speaker 6: and of course, I've been hinting at wanting to get engaged.
Speaker 6: I want to progress our relationship. He has, he's recently proposed.
Speaker 6: Now upon proposing, he's actually kind of thrown worlds at me, like, okay,
Speaker 6: you've got what you want now, I hope you're happy.
Speaker 6: Now I'm really starting to question whether or not I
Speaker 6: should be with him or stay with him.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 6: I guess it just I just don't know.
Speaker 5: Okay, when he proposed, prior to that, had there been
Speaker 5: lots of conversations of you, like pressuring him into it,
Speaker 5: or like did he want to do it?
Speaker 6: He sounds like you'd be honest, You're right, You're right.
Speaker 6: The conversations led by me. I'm the one who's morning
Speaker 6: to you know, it's been eight years. I think after
Speaker 6: three or four years, I was really looking to get engaged.
Speaker 6: And I think by eight years I might have mentioned
Speaker 6: it one too many times, but that still didn't make
Speaker 6: me question our relationship.
Speaker 2: And now I have, Well, Sally.
Speaker 1: I was going to be like man's perspective, but that's
Speaker 1: not really a thing. I just think, and I'm fairly
Speaker 1: a man, so I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Be a real perspective.
Speaker 1: I think that comes from a place of truth from him,
Speaker 1: like he must be having real feelings.
Speaker 2: There must resentment. No, I feel like there's resentments.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that sounds like resentment, doesn't it. But I mean,
Speaker 5: what do you do now? So you've got the rings?
Speaker 3: You know you are engaged.
Speaker 2: For Sally, that's the real problem.
Speaker 5: Sell, he talks to you a radio SHOWT stop Sally.
Speaker 3: What I mean is what do you do now in
Speaker 3: terms of if you are oh, guys, someone take it seriously.
Speaker 2: Sally needs help, but we're just laughing. Sorry.
Speaker 5: What I mean is is can you, like, are you
Speaker 5: at a point where you feel like you could give
Speaker 5: him an ultimatum in terms of like, well, I don't
Speaker 5: want to marry you if it's not something that you want,
Speaker 5: and if you are going to ask me, it needs
Speaker 5: to be in a way that makes me feel like
Speaker 5: it's actually something you want, not that I've forced you
Speaker 5: into it. And see what he has to say about it,
Speaker 5: because he might turn around and say, well, you did
Speaker 5: force me into it.
Speaker 3: And that'll be your answer.
Speaker 4: If somebody proposed to me and said here's the ring
Speaker 4: on the knee, I hope you're happy, I would.
Speaker 3: Say I'm not, buddy, I most certainly I'm not.
Speaker 4: We're going to rewind that, pretend that didn't happen, and
Speaker 4: we're going to take the ring.
Speaker 2: Can you go take no? Take two?
Speaker 4: Do better?
Speaker 3: I'd say do better, be better, but.
Speaker 1: Then that would always sit with me, Sally, like you're
Speaker 1: you're thinking, now I'm going to I'm going to get married,
Speaker 1: and now I know that this is how he thinks
Speaker 1: about it, does it kind of give you the.
Speaker 6: Each so true? So for me right now, it's made
Speaker 6: me not even want to question the actual marriage part
Speaker 6: and just try to be content with the proposal because
Speaker 6: it feels as though I don't even want to go
Speaker 6: to that level of conversation with him.
Speaker 5: You have to know, you have to because the thing
Speaker 5: is is I mean, I know there's part of you
Speaker 5: that's like probably grateful that you're finally engaged the thing
Speaker 5: that you wanted. But if he's doing it and a
Speaker 5: being pressured, or he's doing it because and he feels
Speaker 5: resentful for it, like, what's that foundation for a marriage anyway?
Speaker 2: That's true?
Speaker 1: True, Sally, Do you feel deep down answer this honestly
Speaker 1: that he's the one for you?
Speaker 6: I think I did, And I just feel like now
Speaker 6: I'm questioning it now it's making me rethink that. I mean,
Speaker 6: I truly believe I did, but now I'm just I
Speaker 6: don't know where I think.
Speaker 3: I Okay, this is my advice.
Speaker 5: I think you have to sit down and have a
Speaker 5: conversation with him about it and say, you know, obviously,
Speaker 5: as you know, I've made it no secret, I want
Speaker 5: to marry you, but I don't want it to be
Speaker 5: because you think that it's the only reason I'm going
Speaker 5: to stay in the relationship because you think it's the
Speaker 5: only thing I want. And if you are going to propose,
Speaker 5: I want it to feel like it's something that you
Speaker 5: want as well. And I think you have to kind
Speaker 5: of put that ball back in his court a little
Speaker 5: bit to make that next step and to show you
Speaker 5: that you are valued and loved and all of those
Speaker 5: things that reassurance that you crave when people are wanting
Speaker 5: to get engaged. It's not just always about the ring
Speaker 5: or about the wedding. It's about the relationship reassurance. So
Speaker 5: it's about the commitment knowing that they are meeting you
Speaker 5: where you need to be met in that relationship.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, Yeah, you're so right, and I think I need
Speaker 6: to go away and do that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Charly keep the ring either way, good luck, but
Speaker 5: also please let us know how this all turns out
Speaker 5: for you as well.
Speaker 2: I will thanks, Thanks, Sally, No worries.
Speaker 1: If you want to get on for an ask gun
Speaker 1: cut the pickup, dot com dot A DMS.
Speaker 3: There yeah, I'll rain these two in.
Speaker 2: Hey.
Speaker 4: Next up we have a superstar supermodel, Australian Ellie Gonzalvez
Speaker 4: and the one hundred and seventeen reasons why you shouldn't
Speaker 4: have kids?
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, no polarizing, yeah big, that's next. Ellie joins
Speaker 1: us on the pickup after this.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys have seen this.
Speaker 4: There's a list going viral at the moment, and an
Speaker 4: Australian woman going viral at the moment. Fourth said list. Now,
Speaker 4: her name is Ellie Gonzalvez, and she has decided to
Speaker 4: very kindly put a list together of all the reasons
Speaker 4: she does not want to have children.
Speaker 2: She shared this list.
Speaker 4: Now there is one hundred and seventeen hundred and eighteen reasons,
Speaker 4: some of very serious I shouldn't laugh, and some are
Speaker 4: very funny. But it's gone viral because some of them
Speaker 4: are like the baby could pooh inside you like, this
Speaker 4: is some of the reasons that, to.
Speaker 5: Be fair, the baby could pooh inside and that is
Speaker 5: a valid reason.
Speaker 1: Number thirty six children are noisy, Like, there's a lot
Speaker 1: going on in this in this list, So we've got
Speaker 1: her to join us on the show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wanted to ask you some questions, Ellie.
Speaker 3: Welcome to the picure.
Speaker 2: Ellie.
Speaker 7: Hey, guys, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Ellie.
Speaker 4: How did you get around to actually putting this list together?
Speaker 4: And why did you release it? Because I understand you know,
Speaker 4: I've always been on the cusp of do I don't
Speaker 4: I want kids? But I've never thought I'm going to
Speaker 4: write every single reason down and release it to the public.
Speaker 7: Well, I mean for years people asked me, They're like,
Speaker 7: you know, do you want kids? When are you having kids?
Speaker 7: Like literally since I was ten years old. So I
Speaker 7: just ended up writing a full list of all the stupid,
Speaker 7: ridiculous and also serious things down to just hand to
Speaker 7: people now to be like, this is why I'm not
Speaker 7: having kids, and it just seems to go over people's heads,
Speaker 7: and I'm just like, I'm so sick of the question,
Speaker 7: and I think there's such a double standard in terms
Speaker 7: of the response that I get back from people saying
Speaker 7: that I don't want kids instead of saying I do
Speaker 7: want kids, people who are very agreeable, but you know
Speaker 7: when I say that I don't want them, people are
Speaker 7: just like they're like the homophobic parents that the gay
Speaker 7: person comes out to that try to change you, like totally,
Speaker 7: it's very real. They try and convert you. And I
Speaker 7: have no interest in sitting at a barbecue for four
Speaker 7: hours talking to someone about having children.
Speaker 5: It's really funny because no one would ever say to
Speaker 5: someone who says they want kids, well you probably shouldn't.
Speaker 3: You probably should think.
Speaker 5: About that, and not having that, no one ever gets
Speaker 5: the criticism the opposite way. How has the response been
Speaker 5: to this list? I mean, you went very public with it.
Speaker 5: It's obviously gone viral. How like, what has been the feedback?
Speaker 7: Well, I mean like it was never intended to be posted.
Speaker 7: That's what I've said previously. Like a friend of mine
Speaker 7: took my list because he loves it and he doesn't
Speaker 7: want children, and he's like, oh, I got really clucky,
Speaker 7: reverted to the list, and now I don't want kids again.
Speaker 7: I not posting that on my stories like that screenshot,
Speaker 7: and he thought it was hilarious, and then everyone's like,
Speaker 7: can you send us, like we want to see the list.
Speaker 3: So I was like, Okay, well, like let's post it.
Speaker 2: It's real.
Speaker 7: It's like that's why there's just so many things in
Speaker 7: there that's wild. But I just wanted to be completely
Speaker 7: honest and transparent about like all of these actual facts.
Speaker 7: Some people say they're not facts, they're actual facts.
Speaker 3: Google them, look them up.
Speaker 4: But is you'll never have funny again for the rest
Speaker 4: of your existence. I don't know if that's the fact.
Speaker 7: Do you know what's subjective? That one's subjective?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Why Laura, can you connect to any of these? Because
Speaker 1: you're a mum, You've had two kids? I mean like,
Speaker 1: can you relate to any of money? Yeah?
Speaker 5: I read through the list and I was like, pretty
Speaker 5: much ninety nine percent of these I relate to. Still happy,
Speaker 5: I have my kids, love my kids to like so much,
Speaker 5: and I feel like you always have to kind of
Speaker 5: have that caveat, but I'm like, you have to hell, yeah,
Speaker 5: myself in front of people lost on my hair.
Speaker 3: Kids can be rude. I make food and they never
Speaker 3: eat it.
Speaker 5: I was like, I actually really relate face swell and
Speaker 5: body swelling. I was like cloged milk ducks, literally everything
Speaker 5: that's on this list.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I've lift this. How am I still here?
Speaker 4: Ellie, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3: I just froze my eggs.
Speaker 4: And I saw this list and I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: maybe I should be defrustenosed, but check them in the bin.
Speaker 7: Yeah, maybe, Well, look at least at least you're well informed.
Speaker 3: But I mean, the response to.
Speaker 7: Everything was actually really wild. I was never expecting it
Speaker 7: to go as internationally viral as what it did. I thought,
Speaker 7: you know, a couple of hundred comments on my Instagram
Speaker 7: won't get picked up, but like literally went everywhere. I
Speaker 7: think the reason why people are so upset is because
Speaker 7: it's just so honest and real, and nobody is used
Speaker 7: to hearing real honesty these days, unfortunately, because everyone is
Speaker 7: so afraid of being canceled. And I think when it
Speaker 7: comes to this, like having a voice and being as
Speaker 7: confident about what I say and how it all comes across,
Speaker 7: because it's my like, my reason. It's not reasons to
Speaker 7: not have kids for other people. It's just generally my reason.
Speaker 5: Do you know what, You've got one point two million
Speaker 5: followers and so this obviously spreads so wildly because you
Speaker 5: have that engagement. But I also think, and I say
Speaker 5: this as a mum who's someone who I love being
Speaker 5: a mom. It was never something that I thought I
Speaker 5: wanted for myself, but now that I am a mum,
Speaker 5: I'm like, this is incredible.
Speaker 3: But I think that it makes a lot.
Speaker 5: Of people feel maybe a bit insecure about their choices.
Speaker 5: It makes people go like like, oh, well, you're saying
Speaker 5: my life is crap. You know, you're saying my life
Speaker 5: is not is not fun, or that I, you know,
Speaker 5: haven't made the right choices because you wouldn't. And it's like,
Speaker 5: we just need to stop taking things so personally, if
Speaker 5: you don't want to have kids, it doesn't in any
Speaker 5: way affect the fact that I've had them and I
Speaker 5: love it. Like we can all live very different lives
Speaker 5: and be respectful of each other. For me, being a
Speaker 5: mum's the best thing ever. But there's no part of
Speaker 5: me that wants me to go, you're making the bad decision.
Speaker 5: You're not making the right one for you because everyone's
Speaker 5: lives are different.
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 7: And I think people also forget it's always the people
Speaker 7: who have kids that say not to have kids.
Speaker 5: So true, honest with you.
Speaker 2: We love it all right, Ellie.
Speaker 1: Great to have you on and keep adding to that list.
Speaker 1: Post in another year and you've got another hundred points
Speaker 1: on it.
Speaker 3: Oh mate, it's already doubled.
Speaker 1: Yeah, imagine all right, I'm the pick up back after this.
Speaker 1: You guys know Britain, Laura, I live with my parents.
Speaker 1: Oh we know, balls full laughter.
Speaker 2: I'm twenty eight, I'm gorgeous.
Speaker 1: I'm six foot three and it's a travesy that I've
Speaker 1: got a full head of hair and I live with
Speaker 1: my p You know.
Speaker 3: What, You're saving a lot of money.
Speaker 5: I know why you did it because what is it
Speaker 5: Coz he live, he lives cos he lives are high.
Speaker 4: That means cost of living.
Speaker 1: Cost of living got me down. I went for a breakup.
Speaker 1: I thought I'm going to go back home. I've been
Speaker 1: home for four months.
Speaker 4: You were supposed to go home just for like a
Speaker 4: little snippet.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you did say, Mitch that you're going to
Speaker 5: go home until you started to feel mentally well enough.
Speaker 5: And to be fair, I think you'd be mentally well
Speaker 5: for a long time and you probably could move out,
Speaker 5: but you don't want to.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: About three days in. I'm like, I'm pretty good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I've already unpacked my shoes, so I've stayed for
Speaker 1: four months. I'm really comfortable. I reckon I've got another
Speaker 1: two three months in me there. But Mum and Dad
Speaker 1: have started dropping like they think they're subtle, but they're
Speaker 1: not so subtle, hints that they want me out, Like
Speaker 1: you know how mums. Yeah, mums ask around Christmas, like
Speaker 1: to compile a Christmas list?
Speaker 2: Right, what do you want for Christmas? Yeah, Mum goes,
Speaker 2: what do you want for Christmas? Mitch?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm going to get one of those Therma mixes.
Speaker 1: You'd love it, one of those therm mix for your
Speaker 1: kitchen bench, for your tabletop. You just don't have to
Speaker 1: worry about cooking, do you not get you I'll get
Speaker 1: your Therma mixed.
Speaker 2: And you're like, for what tabletop? I'm like, what tabletop?
Speaker 2: What house? What your kitchen? Because I live at home, Mum.
Speaker 5: And you just think you're going to put it in
Speaker 5: your bedroom. You'll never have to come downstairs.
Speaker 1: Maybe she doesn't anyway, then she'll go, I'm going to
Speaker 1: get you a table runner. I saw a beautiful linen
Speaker 1: table runner for your dining table. I don't have a.
Speaker 4: She's prepping not for Armageddon, but for your big movie.
Speaker 3: No, see, I don't think she's trying to get rid
Speaker 3: of you.
Speaker 5: I think that she's just getting you the things like
Speaker 5: she's doing the thing that mums do. She's getting you ready.
Speaker 5: She wants you to be prepared for when you move
Speaker 5: out on your own.
Speaker 2: A box.
Speaker 3: There's like it's like a box, like a dowry box.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's usually full oft.
Speaker 3: In and it's usually what you get when you've gotten married.
Speaker 4: She's definitely trying to get ready of it.
Speaker 1: Well, then my little sister Rachel, who poor thing. I've
Speaker 1: invaded her space so our bedrooms we share a wall together.
Speaker 1: So I to be honest with you, but Rachel sends
Speaker 1: me domain listings. She'll go check out this property on domain.
Speaker 1: It's property for rent eight hundred per week. She sent
Speaker 1: me like three in the last week.
Speaker 5: Okay, take that back to me. She's definitely trying to
Speaker 5: get rid of you. Your mum maybe not so much.
Speaker 2: Oh what about Dad?
Speaker 1: Black Friday deal went to bing Lee, it came home
Speaker 1: and I'm not joking.
Speaker 2: I sent you a photo Britain Laura. Dad bought me
Speaker 2: a microwave. Everyone else sitting at you a fresh I
Speaker 2: brought your house worth the furniture. They're on your way, mate, Water.
Speaker 4: They've given you the listing, they've given you everything you
Speaker 4: need for it, and the only thing you won't do
Speaker 4: is actually go to any.
Speaker 1: Like I was on Domestic Blitz and Shelley Kraft was
Speaker 1: about to turn up and go, here's all your new
Speaker 1: belongings for your new hand.
Speaker 3: No, this is a good tactic.
Speaker 5: I feel like if you hold off long enough, Midge,
Speaker 5: if you just stay, be steadfast day and it has,
Speaker 5: they're going to buy you an apartment.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's actually genius. I'm going to get
Speaker 2: a car in a month.
Speaker 3: The longer you stay, the more things you're gonna get.
Speaker 3: Pull amount on it.
Speaker 2: No, I'm taking it all. Put the microwave on gum
Speaker 2: tree pocket of three hundred and fifty.
Speaker 3: You did.
Speaker 2: It's an LG. No, I wouldn't. I love my family,
Speaker 2: but if they're listening, I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 3: When do you think you're going to move out?
Speaker 2: They don't want to talk about it. Okay, give us
Speaker 2: a bit of a it'll be a good solid three
Speaker 2: four like six months, Max.
Speaker 4: Thirty four six years, tive W thirty five give me
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Speaker 1: All right, we're going to go. If you' misstanding the show,
Speaker 1: you can podcast it. We were talking to Ellie Gonzalvez
Speaker 1: earlier on Yeah.
Speaker 4: She is the model that put a list of one
Speaker 4: hundred and seventeen reasons why she doesn't want kids.
Speaker 5: Do you know, as the mum here, I do relate
Speaker 5: to something them. Oh god, I mean love my kids.
Speaker 5: But yeah, look you can go and listen to all
Speaker 5: of that. Want to catch up on the podcast.
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