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Speaker 1: Britt Hockley and Laura Ben Brady.
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Speaker 1: This is the pickup, Hi, guys, It's the pick up
Speaker 1: with Britt Hockey and Laura Benn and Brittany.
Speaker 4: Yes, all my dreams hope dashaw was shadowed last night.
Speaker 3: I thought today that I could possibly.
Speaker 4: Be rolling on in a mirror ball from with the Stars.
Speaker 4: I was going to carry around in my bag. I lost.
Speaker 1: I know, Yeah, I'm sorry. How did you take the lose?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 4: Part of me wants to pretend I didn't hurt it hurt?
Speaker 1: Did it?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 3: Did you? Because you know what, I put so much
Speaker 3: into that I left toenails on the dance floor.
Speaker 2: I left my dignity on that dance floor.
Speaker 3: In dignity, of course, you want to win, and you
Speaker 3: get to that point and you realize you actually might
Speaker 3: be able to and you put so much blood, sweat
Speaker 3: and tears in like I think people don't know how
Speaker 3: hard you work months, seven days a week, ten hours
Speaker 3: a day, like, yeah, we're brit some.
Speaker 1: Of your training days were Dancing with the Stars was
Speaker 1: like thirteen hour training days.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Crazy, yeah, And I thought, do you know what hard
Speaker 3: work pays off? But it doesn't, So don't work hard kids,
Speaker 3: no joking. But Kyle Shilling, honestly, that was incredible.
Speaker 2: He's too good though. He's actually a professional dancer.
Speaker 1: No, but do you know what, There's been plenty of
Speaker 1: professional dancers before that, all trained because he's not professional.
Speaker 2: I mean he's a professional actor.
Speaker 4: He was in a dance school.
Speaker 2: He went to dance school. Yeah, there's a reason is brilliant.
Speaker 4: But his dance, like he started with a didjury doo.
Speaker 4: If you guys haven't seen it, it was like heart stopping.
Speaker 4: It was a really beautiful dance.
Speaker 2: It was really amazing.
Speaker 1: I did feel a little bit sad for shaw Mcalliff though, because.
Speaker 2: I honestly lost to Laura.
Speaker 1: Yeah this is true, this is true, but you didn't.
Speaker 1: Then when I got down to the final two, i'd
Speaker 1: you know, I also have a.
Speaker 2: Real soft swat for sure, And I thought it did
Speaker 2: really good.
Speaker 4: Okay, celebrity crush.
Speaker 2: You were all so great, You're amazing. Such an afterthought
Speaker 2: you were, and we're so proud of you.
Speaker 1: Next time when it's like when they next time, no,
Speaker 1: because they do, they do the All Star one, you
Speaker 1: can go back and do it again.
Speaker 2: I can't. I defeated it, defeated so much.
Speaker 4: I couldn't have put in more. So there's no point
Speaker 4: for me doing it again because I just get crushed again.
Speaker 2: That's the spirit. Well, wasn't you know?
Speaker 3: I'm just going to exit where I was. Let's exit
Speaker 3: at a final and yeah, whatever, Laura. I know I
Speaker 3: just got married. But I sort of low key went
Speaker 3: on a kind of blind date on the weekend.
Speaker 4: And it's not I don't want to say date. I
Speaker 4: went on a blind friends sporting date. I don't know
Speaker 4: what to call it.
Speaker 1: Yet you seem confused because I didn't.
Speaker 2: Really know this is a thing.
Speaker 3: But I feel like it's a bit of a PSA
Speaker 3: for people out there wanting to meet.
Speaker 4: New people, but like as friends.
Speaker 3: So I was up on the Gold Coast and I
Speaker 3: have this new obsession with playing paddle, like the paddle tennis.
Speaker 4: If you guys don't know.
Speaker 3: It's like that little mini tennis kind of thing that
Speaker 3: you play in a glass box.
Speaker 1: Is it the same as a few people know there's
Speaker 1: pickleball that paddle tennis. Sorry, everyone's been trying to get
Speaker 1: me to play pickleball, and I'm like, I'm too pregnant
Speaker 1: for pickleball.
Speaker 3: This, so my sister started Sherry's started playing paddle at
Speaker 3: seven months pregnant, and she loved it because it's it's
Speaker 3: not as like excessive as tennis.
Speaker 4: It's really small. But anyway, whatever, we're getting sidetracks.
Speaker 3: We are not sponsored by pickleball, sponsored by paddle or people. So,
Speaker 3: but the thing is you have to play it against people.
Speaker 3: So usually you play two v two. Yeah, And so
Speaker 3: we didn't have anyone to play with because we don't
Speaker 3: have many friends and people work. So we found like
Speaker 3: this group where you go into a WhatsApp group and
Speaker 3: it has all these members and you just blind like
Speaker 3: put a call out for somebody to play with.
Speaker 4: So it's just adults asking other adult strangers that they.
Speaker 2: Don't know this.
Speaker 4: You don't have pictures, you don't know anything about them.
Speaker 3: You put in your level of like where how good
Speaker 3: you think you are? Which we put ourselves at the bottom,
Speaker 3: so you put Haye, we're level C minus because that's
Speaker 3: what we are. So we hey, guys, two people C
Speaker 3: minus in this area looking for friends to play with,
Speaker 3: and then other people.
Speaker 4: Respond that are also like C minus.
Speaker 3: Or B and then you swap number and then you
Speaker 3: just meet. We were really nervous because we're like, they're waiting.
Speaker 3: You don't know who you're looking out for, Like all
Speaker 3: these people walking past you like, is that them?
Speaker 1: And then the people with the rackets usually is the
Speaker 1: dead giveaway.
Speaker 3: Not la. You're at a place with like fifty courts
Speaker 3: everyone has or so you're.
Speaker 1: Waiting out the front on the corner of the cafe. No,
Speaker 1: you go to the coffee first, guys.
Speaker 4: You go to the courts and it's a whole tennis court.
Speaker 1: These two guys turned up.
Speaker 4: One was Italian, one was English.
Speaker 3: They were a bit above C minus and it's the
Speaker 3: equivalent of been on a first date, the nerves and stuff,
Speaker 3: because you you sort of have to start to get
Speaker 3: to know them, but you're also playing against them and
Speaker 3: you're trying to work out it your friends and if
Speaker 3: you want to play again.
Speaker 1: You're not on a date, breat you're playing paddle bits
Speaker 1: a friend date. Okay, something that's slightly similar to this,
Speaker 1: probably actually more so that you have to kind of
Speaker 1: like I don't know how to describe it, Like I
Speaker 1: want to say feel it out, but that's not the
Speaker 1: right words. Was when I started doing solsa dancing, because
Speaker 1: you you obviously you go as a solo person. Some
Speaker 1: people go with their partners, but if you're single and
Speaker 1: you're going solo like solsa dancing, you just end up
Speaker 1: getting partnered up with someone. And then you've got some
Speaker 1: random dude who's solsa dancing you and he literally is feeling.
Speaker 2: You up, and like half the time you're like are
Speaker 2: you hitting on me? Are we friends? Are we are?
Speaker 3: We? Like?
Speaker 2: What are we doing here?
Speaker 1: And it's just like there's a weird dynamic that happens
Speaker 1: because like you can obviously go solsa dancing, it's very platonic,
Speaker 1: but there's a part of you that's like, how do
Speaker 1: I make sure this person knows that this is a
Speaker 1: platonic experience for him as well?
Speaker 3: Well? I just thought it was a really good way
Speaker 3: to make friends as an adult, but it was funny.
Speaker 3: So what happened was they came as twos and they'd
Speaker 3: only met through paddle as well, so they've been playing together.
Speaker 4: For a few weeks.
Speaker 3: We went as three, so myself share, my sister and
Speaker 3: her partner and we just one of us just rotated through. Anyway,
Speaker 3: we played for an hour and a half, had a
Speaker 3: great time, got to know each other. Then afterwards one
Speaker 3: of the guys texted Jay separately out of the group
Speaker 3: and asked to switch partners, and he said, will you
Speaker 3: be my new paddle friend?
Speaker 4: And he didn't want to play with me and Sherry
Speaker 4: and he didn't want to play with his friend.
Speaker 2: So it was like this weird couple breakup.
Speaker 4: We only just got together and now they're going off
Speaker 4: as too.
Speaker 1: Okay, anyway, Grace, did you produce a grace?
Speaker 2: Did you allow this? I didn't know would go in this.
Speaker 4: It's a whole new world out there.
Speaker 2: A lot happened on BRIT's weekend. Hey who it was
Speaker 2: a real well one.
Speaker 4: Sorry, sorry, that's the life I leave.
Speaker 2: Give us the update. I want to know. Did you
Speaker 2: guys become friends? What happened next? Yes, we're friends. Oh great, that's.
Speaker 4: My point, Laura.
Speaker 3: If people are out there, it's really hard to make
Speaker 3: friends as an adult and I'm just putting this out
Speaker 3: there for people.
Speaker 4: Producer Grace joined to Adult Gardening Center.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's a community garden.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm volunteered.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Continue, And we've made some lovely friends.
Speaker 2: We all have hats that say city farmer. How old
Speaker 2: is everyone in this group? Range? Big range?
Speaker 1: Yeah it would with a community gard wouldn't it great?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 1: There are two types of parents out there, two types
Speaker 1: of mums I think specifically just too yeah, just two
Speaker 1: just to you can you can whittle them down into
Speaker 1: two categories. There's mums who make birthday cakes. It is
Speaker 1: a labor of love. They plan it. It's meticulous.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Actually I shouldn't say just mums. You know you got
Speaker 1: your Hamish Blake's he does a cake.
Speaker 4: Off every year. Let's say parents.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think particularly mums do a lot of it,
Speaker 1: you know, like my sister, she's a mum who makes
Speaker 1: a cake for every single kid's birthday, Like it is
Speaker 1: just part and parcel of like childhood core memories. And
Speaker 1: then you have mums who are not really cake makers.
Speaker 2: I e. Me, I'm a cake decorator.
Speaker 1: I like to buy a Cohle's pre bought cake and
Speaker 1: then I just stick some Smarties on it and I
Speaker 1: upscale it.
Speaker 2: The reason I'm talking about this.
Speaker 1: Is because on the weekend, one of my girlfriends she
Speaker 1: was telling me about how she and she's like a
Speaker 1: big cake baker, like she like loves her kid's birthdays.
Speaker 1: No kid has ever gone without a cake being made.
Speaker 1: And it was her daughter's first birthday, right, so she thought,
Speaker 1: what better way to celebrate my kid's first birthday than
Speaker 1: doing a beautiful number one cake, iconic simple, Gonna do
Speaker 1: some like cute.
Speaker 2: Little freckle flowers all over it, gonna have.
Speaker 1: It, give it a little green stems with little beautiful
Speaker 1: leaves on there.
Speaker 2: And then she outlined the whole thing in pink.
Speaker 1: And when she showed me the cake that she made,
Speaker 1: it reinforced that this is the reason why I don't
Speaker 1: make cakes.
Speaker 2: I just want to.
Speaker 1: I want to show you this, Britt, and I want
Speaker 1: you to instantly describe to me what you think it is.
Speaker 4: Okay, it's a giant penis.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's a pee when you put it
Speaker 1: on the side, especially.
Speaker 2: Any directions.
Speaker 4: You don't have to put on the side.
Speaker 1: It kind of, unfortunately came out of the other and
Speaker 1: a little bit tilted. So the one instead of having like,
Speaker 1: you know, like a seraph tip to it, it certainly
Speaker 1: has a tip, but it's it's joy and so unfortunate.
Speaker 1: We're gonna put this on the pickup socials, so you
Speaker 1: have to go and see it. You can find it
Speaker 1: on Instagram to pick up. But honestly, it's just so unfortunate.
Speaker 1: Even the freckles and the detail look like it's part
Speaker 1: of the Yeah, I words that we can't use on
Speaker 1: radio three PM.
Speaker 3: There's a reason I don't cook either, Like I just
Speaker 3: get pre made meal sent to my door. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: show you a photo I tried to make a cake
Speaker 3: for my sister's birthday. Now, my sister and I am
Speaker 3: best friends. We traveled the world together for three years,
Speaker 3: like we did this big around the world trip. And
Speaker 3: the reason I say that is because I tried to
Speaker 3: do like an travel inspired cake for her birthday.
Speaker 4: So this is what it was supposed to be, Laura.
Speaker 3: So it's a it's a blue cake, so it looks
Speaker 3: like you're in the sky, and then this is a
Speaker 3: hot air balloon that's made out of biscuits, and then it's.
Speaker 4: Got a big balloon on the top. So then it's
Speaker 4: got covered in clouds.
Speaker 3: Like and these two little dolls in it that are
Speaker 3: supposed to be representative and you're supposed to be like
Speaker 3: traveling through the air.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this the bridge showing me right now.
Speaker 1: It's a very ambitious That looks like an ambitious undertaking
Speaker 1: for someone who doesn't make cakes.
Speaker 4: Oh here's my cake.
Speaker 3: Oh dear, it's actually such a mess. And I tried
Speaker 3: to put that's a little folk cut out photo of.
Speaker 2: Us gami cranes around it.
Speaker 4: That's the birds flying in the air. We're supposed I'm
Speaker 4: going to put it up on the pig arm.
Speaker 3: It's supposed to be like. Okay, it's a mess. It
Speaker 3: looks like a two year old made. It's actually disgraceful.
Speaker 3: It looks like a pillow with a.
Speaker 2: Turd on top.
Speaker 3: Anyway, I understand the pain that your friend feels, but
Speaker 3: I've never come close to making.
Speaker 4: What she made, especially for a one year old.
Speaker 2: Couldn't be more inappropriate.
Speaker 1: No, well, I mean this is still pretty bad, though.
Speaker 1: You could have just bought this unfortunately bred anyway.
Speaker 2: I couldn't buy that. Okay, people send us though, if
Speaker 2: you've ever had a cake fail.
Speaker 1: We want to see it because some people do them
Speaker 1: so well, you know that whole cake or not trend.
Speaker 2: And then there's that, Then there's Brittany Hockley's abomination.
Speaker 3: There's an app, a new app, Laura, that is taking
Speaker 3: the world by storm and it's very controversial.
Speaker 4: It's dividing opinions online.
Speaker 3: It's something we've spoken about a little bit before ourselves.
Speaker 3: But it's the number one downloaded app in the US
Speaker 3: right now. And it's called Tea as in Tea and
Speaker 3: essentially it's a women's only app where men have zero
Speaker 3: access to it, but you can go to I want
Speaker 3: to say report, but I guess out bad behavior from
Speaker 3: men that you have been on dates with or had
Speaker 3: experience with or whatever. It's sort of like that app
Speaker 3: a few years ago in Australia it's called.
Speaker 4: Like SIS Is this Your Man?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Sis, is this your Man? I mean it still exists. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's the Facebook page and stuff. You're not allowed to
Speaker 1: talk about it, so we'll probably get blocked from it.
Speaker 1: But basically the premise of this was set up and
Speaker 1: I think T is kind of the same thing. It
Speaker 1: was set up to create more safe dating spaces for women.
Speaker 1: So if you had a really bad experience on a date,
Speaker 1: if something's happened that was like problematic, you could go
Speaker 1: on there and share and warn other women so that
Speaker 1: they didn't have the same fate as what you did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and what's happening is there's a lot of kickback
Speaker 3: because you can say whatever you want in there. At
Speaker 3: the end of the day, you're supposed to, obviously, only
Speaker 3: say the truth. You're not supposed to make up stories
Speaker 3: about somebody. It's not supposed to be revenge to get
Speaker 3: back at someone, but it can cause obviously a lot
Speaker 3: of reputational damage to somebody. There's no way of knowing
Speaker 3: what someone is saying in this app is true or not,
Speaker 3: because it's just someone's experience, in someone's story. And now
Speaker 3: I'm not quite sure this is the right thing to do.
Speaker 3: I felt like this when we spoke about it a
Speaker 3: few years ago. I still feel like it at.
Speaker 4: The end of the day. And I'm not sticking up
Speaker 4: for men here. If this was reverse but if.
Speaker 2: It don't, don't be mistaken.
Speaker 3: No, if it was reversed, I would feel the same way.
Speaker 3: I just think you get into dangerous territory where you
Speaker 3: can be in a group of people with potentially millions
Speaker 3: of people in that group, and you can say whatever
Speaker 3: you want about somebody with no truth. If they could
Speaker 3: lose their job, it can have complete repercussions for family members, friends,
Speaker 3: for dating, for the love life, for whatever, financial repercussions,
Speaker 3: and it's all based on just one person's thought. I
Speaker 3: don't know what the happy medium is, and I don't
Speaker 3: know of a way that we can make a safe
Speaker 3: place for people to be able to talk about these things.
Speaker 4: And report them.
Speaker 3: But I think if they're bad enough for you to
Speaker 3: be reporting them, report them to the authority.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean it's not always like that someone's
Speaker 1: done something that's illegal.
Speaker 2: It could be just morally illegal.
Speaker 1: You know, if that person's been cheated on multiple times
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think the thing is if it's only one person's experience,
Speaker 1: When it starts to have real impact is when it's
Speaker 1: multiple women telling stories about the same person.
Speaker 2: That's when I think.
Speaker 1: That these apps really have weight to them, because there's
Speaker 1: multiple women who have dated the same guy, They've had
Speaker 1: the same experience. Maybe he's cheated on them, it was narcissistic,
Speaker 1: maybe he took money, who knows what is the circumstances,
Speaker 1: And I guess it's sad that there is such a
Speaker 1: massive group of women who feel that they need to
Speaker 1: have that layer of protection. So I do understand and
Speaker 1: maybe there is something that's needed to be done.
Speaker 2: The other part of this.
Speaker 1: Though, is when we spoke about cisus this your Men
Speaker 1: on our podcast Life Uncut, we had people from our
Speaker 1: own community who reached out and were like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: found my boyfriend on there and found out he was
Speaker 1: cheating on me with XYZ. Like there's been real consequences
Speaker 1: that's come off the back of that, And you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of this like outcry has been from men
Speaker 1: who are worried about what impact it's going to have
Speaker 1: on their dating opportunities, what impact it's going to have
Speaker 1: on their reputation. But I guess, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know if there's that many people that are so vindictive
Speaker 1: that they're getting on there and writing awful things off
Speaker 1: the back of like a really decent relationship in a
Speaker 1: decent breakup, Like I feel that with all the.
Speaker 3: Minority, it's impossible to know, and it is, But I
Speaker 3: think the reason that I am a bit more like Okay.
Speaker 4: I don't know if this is the right thing to do.
Speaker 4: Is because like we've been on the receiving end of
Speaker 4: completely fabricated stories.
Speaker 3: Like and it's horrible. And once a story goes out there,
Speaker 3: that's it. It doesn't matter if it's.
Speaker 4: True or not. Like there's a reason they say month sticks.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 4: Again, I'm not defending them. What I think is really
Speaker 4: unfortunate is that we're.
Speaker 3: In a place where women feel like they have to
Speaker 3: cre this in the first place. The fact that we're
Speaker 3: still battling with this and dealing with this on dating
Speaker 3: apps every single day.
Speaker 4: And what has actually come off the back.
Speaker 3: Of this, which is really sad, is men have heard
Speaker 3: that this is app exists and they've hacked it. They've
Speaker 3: hacked the app, and they've doxed women's information from the app.
Speaker 3: So it's almost like doubling down on what the problem is.
Speaker 3: It's almost like you're just showing us how much more
Speaker 3: trust we don't have in you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I.
Speaker 1: Also think, like, yes, it's controversial, and I understand that,
Speaker 1: but I think that maybe there should be other parameters
Speaker 1: that are put in place to keep people safe. There
Speaker 1: are some truly awful stories that come off the back
Speaker 1: of online dating. Some people have had truly horrific experiences.
Speaker 1: Some people have just.
Speaker 2: Had like morally awful experiences.
Speaker 1: But I don't want to get too deep with this
Speaker 1: time slot on you know, a lovely Tuesday Afternoon. But
Speaker 1: there may be should be more safety nets that have
Speaker 1: put in place, and it kind of sucks that an
Speaker 1: app like this needs to exist and that people have
Speaker 1: to self moderate in order to feel safer on dating apps.
Speaker 3: Hey, maybe if you've been in this situation and you
Speaker 3: have found something out on one of these apps, so
Speaker 3: you are you part of the tee app?
Speaker 4: Are you part of sis?
Speaker 2: Here's your man?
Speaker 4: Let us know on the pickup and we'll talk about
Speaker 4: it over the coming weeks.
Speaker 2: Anyway, we are out of here.