1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: But a real change of pace because we know that 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: October Business month is in full swing and one of 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: the focus areas is artificial intelligence AI, which is driving 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: change across all industries and has the potential, I guess, 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: to revolutionize the way businesses operate. Now, Doctor Allen D. Thompson, 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: an AI expert, author and advisor, is one of the 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: keynote speakers who's going to be delving into the impacts 8 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: of AI on the business landscape at a special event. 9 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: It's happening next Wednesday, I understand, and he joins me 10 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: on the line right now, Good morning to you, Dr Thompson. 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: Good morning, thanks for having me. 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, lovely to have you on the show. Now, how 13 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: would you explain AI to someone who's unfamiliar with it? 14 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: Oh, look, if it was forty years ago, Katie, we 15 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: were just say AI is a machine that operates at 16 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: the level of a human across different fields. But what's 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: happened since twenty twenty is a little bit different than that. 18 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: It's actually just predicting the next word, and that it's 19 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: gone up to that older definition in such a different way. 20 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: Some people seem so scared of it, Alan, Like, some 21 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: people seem really worried that AI is going to take 22 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: over the world, or at least take over their job. 23 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: I mean, are we going to like, should people be 24 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: worried that that's going to happen or that they could 25 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: lose their jobs. 26 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 2: Look, it's a significant technological revolution for mankind, perhaps our 27 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 2: most outrageous discovery in all of our history, and it's 28 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 2: going to transform society as we know it, not just 29 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: you know, jobs and working, but also benefits to medicine 30 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: and education and space travel. All of these opportunities are 31 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: opening up for us now that we have something that's 32 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: smarter than you know, our smartest inventors that have ever existed. 33 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: So, I mean, when you look at AI, what opportunities 34 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: do you think that it does present for businesses? 35 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 2: We've seen this being pushed out across pretty much every field, 36 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: which exciting now and we'll talk about this in the keynote. 37 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: Shortly ninety two percent of Fortune five hundred companies using 38 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: platforms like chat GPT, and they're spending about twenty seven 39 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: million dollars a year on implementing that through each company, 40 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 2: which is a tremendous figure. They're doing it in everything, 41 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: you know, we've seen how this can write emails or 42 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: help us with designing something, whether it be images or otherwise. 43 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 2: I'm really looking forward to having it transform some of 44 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: the industries that we've come to rely on that are 45 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: a little bit old, including education, including health, including the 46 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 2: way we do things in manufacturing. And I think a 47 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 2: lot of big companies are stepping up to that as 48 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 2: we speak. 49 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: Why is it important do you think for those businesses 50 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: to sort of adopt to it or adopt and start 51 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 1: using it in some ways? I suppose if if you 52 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: don't go with the flow, sometimes with technology, you really 53 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: do just get left by. 54 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: I think one question people can ask themselves is do 55 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: we want more smarts or not? And I think with 56 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: my older career in human intelligence research, a lot of 57 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: society was confronted or felt threatened by more intelligence. But 58 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, we do want more 59 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: smarts to be able to help us with things like 60 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 2: inventions and even our day to day tasks, and then 61 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: in a broader way of thinking with our continual evolution. 62 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 2: So for me, it's an exciting time in what it 63 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: brings to all of us. And that's one of the 64 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: most interesting parts of this AI revolution is that we 65 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: have complete access to it. Right now, you and I 66 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: can jump onto chat, GBT dot com or Claude dot 67 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: ai and have free access to these AI models that cost, 68 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: you know, getting up to measuring in the billions of 69 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: dollars to train and are the equivalent of superintelligence. 70 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: It's funny, you know, in my household, in my family, 71 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,839 Speaker 1: I think, what the kids a bit of a new 72 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: But I'm not very good with technology, but my husband 73 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: and my kids are, so I feel like I'm getting 74 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: left behind. 75 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 2: The cool thing about it is that anyone can jump in. 76 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: I bought my nieces and nephews in Perth recently a 77 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: little plushed stuff toy that's got a chat GPT voice 78 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 2: box built into it, and it runs with them around 79 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 2: the house and helps them build forts or answers questions 80 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: about my nephew's mind draft questions. It's really really interesting. 81 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 2: And then you know, I've worked with seventy and eighty 82 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 2: year olds who jump into it to help them write 83 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: speeches or just to have almost therapeutic conversations with it. 84 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: It's just fascinating. What's possible. 85 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: Do you know if many Northern Territory businesses are either 86 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: already utilizing AI or if they're keen to do so. 87 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: That's what I'm really interested to find out about. We're 88 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: expecting a few hundred to come and have a chat 89 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: with us in the keynote, and as you mentioned, it 90 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 2: will be businesses from Darwin around the Northern Territory and 91 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: I expect, like the rest of Australia and a lot 92 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 2: of the rest of the world, we're talking about two 93 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million active users per week just for 94 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: chat GPT. I think they've been adopting it. I think 95 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 2: they've been using it to help with strategy, which is 96 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: a big thing now, to help with augmenting their daily task, 97 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: their admin task, whether it's email or documents, and you know, 98 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 2: some people are doing some even trickier stuff, which is 99 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: always fun to see. 100 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: I reckon it's look. I think it's really interesting. I'm 101 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 1: quite fascinated by it and sort of learning more about 102 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: how it works or how people may be able to 103 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: utilize it. And I think it'll be interesting too, I 104 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: suppose over the years to see the way that you know, 105 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,679 Speaker 1: some different profession professions, it may be utilized alongside those 106 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: professions or for some of them. I don't know whether 107 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: it will mean that that jobs are lost, but then 108 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: in other areas it may mean that there's an increase 109 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: in work assuming. 110 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a much longer conversation. I just talk about 111 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 2: having artificial intelligence as something that can amplify and org 112 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: ment our capabilities. I want this integrated into society. I 113 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: certainly don't want anyone to lose jobs or have their 114 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 2: survival threatened. And the way that a lot of these 115 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: lads are dealing with it is to make sure that 116 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: you know, there's ethics around it, that we've got some 117 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: sense of what it's going to do to the economy, 118 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: and really making sure that it's a bit of a 119 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: smooth ramp up for society, because you know, this is 120 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: super jarring having a room full of Einstein's available twenty 121 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 2: four to seven to do whatever we like. It's it's 122 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: almost indescribable. I'm almost out of words for it. And 123 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 2: I've been doing this for a very long time. 124 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh well, now people can head along, of course, 125 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: to this special event, to its next Wednesday. Isn't it. 126 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 2: That sounds about right? Darwin? 127 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: You are, well, it'll be fun. I reckon, there's going 128 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 1: to be plenty of people keen to come along. And 129 00:06:58,960 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: find out more. 130 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, they're very welcome. You're right. It's Wednesday, the 131 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 2: twenty third of October, and like you mentioned, I'm really 132 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: going to be making sure that I understand more about 133 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: what business leaders there are doing, so I'll provide some context. 134 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: But I really like the interactivity of a keynote, you know, 135 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: allowing people to ask whatever question is interesting for them, 136 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: and sometimes it's about things that I hadn't even considered. 137 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: And we'll get hands on with these models and actually 138 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: get it to do, you know, whatever will illustrate the 139 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: point the best. 140 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: Oh good stuff. Well. Artificial intelligence expert, author and advisor, 141 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: doctor Allen D. Thompson, lovely to speak with you this morning. 142 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your time 143 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 2: Too, Thanks so much, Thank you,