WEBVTT - Alex Mavrodakis - LOVE ISLAND AUSTRALIA - Executive Producer 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.640 TV Reload the podcast past week that line. Welcome back, 0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:07.240 guys to TV Reload. As you may know, my name 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:09.959 is Benjamin Norris, and this is your podcast to get 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:12.719 all the inside goss on the popular TV shows that 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:15.520 you may be watching from around the world. Underniably, our 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:18.759 TV sets are still a major part of our home entertainment, 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:21.439 and yet very little is known about how our favorite 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:24.160 shows get made. So each episode I've been finding guests 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:26.400 the wanna dive just that little bit deeper into the 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:29.400 shows that they've been currently making, so that you can 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:32.199 hear all their exclusive stories and gain access to the 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:34.560 biggest names in Australian television. I want to thank you 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:38.120 for downloading or subscribing to this podcast however you've found it. 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:40.319 I love hearing your feedback, so make sure you leave 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:43.400 a review or a comment on your chosen podcast platform. 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:47.640 On today's podcast, I have Alex Maveridiks, who has proven 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:50.839 to be my most popular guest on TV Reload. I 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:53.320 actually have lost count of the amount of times that 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:55.600 he has appeared on the podcast. And while you would 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:58.280 be forgiven for thinking that we would have nothing left 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:00.760 to talk about I'm here to tell you you are wrong. 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:04.120 This is his best chat yet, As he probably already 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:05.840 have guessed, he would be here to promote one of 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:08.759 his shows, and this time it is Love Island Australia, 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:11.520 which is returning for its fifth series on Monday night 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:14.080 on Channel nine. I can tell you right now that 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:17.600 the series five eras theme is perfection and swifty fans, 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:19.600 you'll know what I mean, and the men and women 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:22.679 are absolutely hotter than ever, and you know that Alex 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.400 will hammer that point home every single time that he 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:28.039 has a new show to promote. However, the best part 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:30.200 about Alex and I getting together is not just the 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:34.200 genuine banter, but the mind boggling stories that no other 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:38.240 executive producer would dare to tell. He is absolutely the 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:41.160 essence of what this podcast stands for and the benchmark 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:44.080 for all guests to hold themselves against. We are going 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:47.200 to talk about the casting of three particular Islanders, which 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:50.760 happened by a mistake but sets up the most explosive 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:54.160 storyline that the show has ever seen. We will talk 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:58.000 nudity on freeedoware channels from Uncut to up Late and Yes, 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:01.200 Jamie's two thousand and six trousers, snack get to mention. 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:03.720 And what I have to say about that is if 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:06.520 you know, you know, I will find out about the 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:10.400 secret global Council of Love Island executive producers and how 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:12.480 they get together and share their secrets to make this 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:15.640 show better and better every year. Plus you're going to 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:18.000 get plenty of exclusives from behind the scenes of Love 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:21.720 Island Australia, which is starting this Monday night premiers on 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:24.640 nine Now, dropping at six pm Eastern Standard Time, and 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:28.240 it's on every Monday to Thursday. And I just want 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:30.800 to say, let's welcome Alex Menvererdyke's back to the podcast. 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:33.680 And I really do hope you enjoy this very exclusive 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:37.600 and very naughty chat about Love Island Australia. How are 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:38.079 you you will? 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:39.040 Yes? And very well? 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:42.880 What's more surprising that we're still friends or that I'm 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:45.880 still with my partner Ben? What surprises you more? 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:49.480 I they're both pretty pretty ridiculous. I mean, you know 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:52.359 long lolds on both of those things in twenty twelve. 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:55.119 Yeah, yeah, I would have thought by now that you'd 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:56.240 somehow gotten rid of me. 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:58.680 That way, you may still go you still be of 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:00.680 use to me. So you know that's still around. 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:03.160 Well that's what you've got to do, right, But another 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:06.440 series of Love Island is dropping this week, which is 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:10.120 very exciting, and the Internet has been clogged with excitement. 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.799 Finmal celebrity, get me out of here with Robert Irwin. 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:16.000 But you must be elated with this kind of success, right. 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:18.680 Oh Look, I love both this show, so I am. 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:21.799 I'm so so lucky. Look I'm all said, it fell 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:24.760 into my lap. But you know, you know I get 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:27.480 to make Love Island, you know, I mean, I just 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:31.959 love the show so much. It is so stupid, and 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:34.640 you know, like I'm doing the screenings for this current 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:36.920 series every morning at the moment, so you know, I'm 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:39.920 probably I'm going to be what fifteen episodes ahead of 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.960 the general public, you know, as Jarla cuts them, and 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:46.400 I'm pissing myself laughing every single morning. It is the 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:48.440 best way to start the day. I just I just 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:51.120 think it's the best show. And I'm a celebrity. I mean, 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:52.760 you know, I'm about to make my tenth seasons of 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:54.920 that season of that and sometimes I think, God, can 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:57.760 I even come up with another trial where they've got 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:01.360 to be electrocuted and get covered in snakes and fall 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:03.360 and jump off flip. But then when you get over there, 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:05.600 it just feels so different every year, you know. And 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:09.120 I mean that is the great thing about these two shows. 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:11.120 And any EP will tell you this, you know, So 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:13.000 I'm not telling anything you I haven't heard before. But 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:16.200 it's such a different vibe every single year because it's 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:19.000 a completely different cast, so we can get away with 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:21.480 doing you know, the same things over again. It feels 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:23.800 completely different, Like you know, this season of love Al 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:26.280 I'm talking about love aland more specifically, this season of 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:29.479 Love Island feels so much different to season four, which 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.560 of course is a fantastically successful series and loved it, 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:35.760 but it just feels so different because the vibe is 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:40.560 so incredibly different and the characters are just so much more. 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:44.000 I mean, I don't just watch it. You're gonna love it, guys. 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:46.279 I just for the first fifteen minutes. That's all I 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:49.440 tell people to do. To watch this new series because 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:50.359 it's so addictive. 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:53.320 I mean, it gets off and running very quickly. And 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:55.760 you know, at Wall of love Land is always hard 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:58.960 truth be told because you've got to show ten backstories, 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.839 you know. I mean, how many reality backstories have we 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:05.120 all watched you know, Hi, I'm Johnny and I'm this, 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:07.200 that and the other, and I'm here to step on 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:09.479 toes and blah blah blah blah blah, And how do 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:12.360 you keep making them different every single time? And we've 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:14.000 got to go back to a big brother. I mean, 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:17.359 you know, you know what was your backstory? What was 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:18.760 your headline? Can you even remember it? 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.080 I can tell you that painted me out. I think 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:23.880 I said I'm the bitchiest person you'll ever meet, Like 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:27.120 it was a sizzle reel of the nastiest gay person 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:28.160 you've ever come across. 0:05:28.240 --> 0:05:30.320 That was when you were allowed. In twenty twelve, we 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:33.600 were still allowed to call gay people nasty without being canceled. 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:35.559 Now it's a given, it's a given. 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:40.840 I remember back then saying to Chris, this guy is 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:43.479 a cartoon character. I actually I remember using those words. 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:46.080 Just remember saying Ben is a cartoon character. He is 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:50.279 the cartoon baddie and you sort of were really, let's 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:51.000 be honest. 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:55.320 Eleven years later, Alex, eleven years later, and I still 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:57.520 get all the TV villains writing to me as soon 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:01.000 as their series finishes, asking for advice. But I enjoy it. 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.080 I love talking to these people that have been played 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:04.960 as as long as they're the PG villain, like, they 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.280 haven't done anything too sinister. They've kind of acted up 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:09.080 to what I enjoy villains do well. 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:12.200 I mean, you know, I'm a spoiler alert. I'm going 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:15.279 to say that someone who is a little bit of 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:18.160 a villain does very well in this series of Love On. Anyway, 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:20.200 going back to what I was saying episode one of 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:22.960 Love Island, I'm going to go from Tangents all night right. 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:23.400 I love it. 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:26.720 Episode one of Love On. It's not hard watch. It's 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:29.240 a bloody easy watch. It's a fantastic episode, of course 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:30.880 it is. You know, all the good stuff happens, and 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:32.919 you meet new characters and you get all the stepping 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:35.479 forward of Sophie hilarious in it. But you've got to 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:37.800 get through ten backstories and you've got to get through 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:40.600 a very big format point, which is who's going to 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:42.680 couple up with who? And what are they going to 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:44.880 do this year? And oh my god, they've changed that 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:48.200 with the villa and that takes five segments, you know, 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:50.480 to do to unpackle that stuff. And it's only when 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:52.599 you get to the end of episode one and into 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:56.279 episodes two and three where everyone starts getting it on 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:58.159 with each other and everyone starts hating each other and 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:03.080 all that beautiful reality TV stuff starts happening. But look, 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:05.000 it's a great first step. I'm glum. Look, I know 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:07.640 you haven't seen it properly yet, but you're gonna like it. 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:10.000 I'm gonna love it. How hard is it? Though you 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:11.520 kind of touched on this before, but I think it's 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:13.600 a really important thing. How hard is it to keep 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:17.080 long running shows like these, you know, current and on 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:20.520 trend because you know, there's such a fickle nature these days, 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:22.560 and we see shows come and go, they try and 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:25.600 relaunch and come up with new ideas. But you're working 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:29.200 on two shows that are past five season like it's madness. 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:32.040 How do you do that? How do you keep audiences? 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:33.280 You kind of touch on a bit, but I want 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:36.560 to know a little bit more than just refreshing the characters. 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:37.680 There's got to be more to it. 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:41.680 I'll tell you what. Never ages? Okay, being funny never 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.480 gets old, all right? You could go back and watch 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:50.320 the two Ronnie's, Monty Python's, The Paul Hogan Show, you know, 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:53.840 go back to Bloody Charlie Chaplin and custard pies and faces. 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:57.880 It's still funny. It doesn't matter how many times you 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:01.040 do it. If you can keep your con tent funny 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:04.679 and if you keep your audience laughing, it never ages. 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:07.640 With Love Island, I'll tell you what else doesn't get old. 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:11.160 Sexy people, because people have been shagging each other since 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:14.640 the time. That is literally the reason we are here. 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:17.360 Sexy doesn't get old. Funny doesn't get old. 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:20.200 With honor Bowyerism, Voyeurism also doesn't get. 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:22.880 Hold, doesn't get old, It doesn't get on. You know, 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:25.280 how many times have we caught ourselves up trees with 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:28.720 binoculars looking into windows. 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:32.160 I don't know, Alex, how many times? 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:36.280 No. Vorism doesn't get old. And celebrit you know, revealing, 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:39.480 you know, revealing secrets about celebrities never gets old, even 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:41.439 if you know about them. You know, that's how you 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:44.600 keep it fresh. Can I come up with twenty different 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:47.720 trials from a celebrity every single year? Absolutely not, you 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:49.840 know you just I mean, yes, I could, but they're 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:52.120 just going to start getting ridiculous. You know, we will 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:54.040 do the Viper Room every year. You know, we will 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:56.520 do some eating trials every single year. We will send 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:59.200 them up a cliff every single year because it works. 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:01.240 So you know what the point in changing everything? You 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:03.880 just changed? You changed sixty percent of the show, and 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:05.480 you stick with the ones that work. 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:07.080 If you go too far with that, you'll end up 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:08.920 killing one of those celebrities. So I'm kind of happy 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:10.600 that you know you stick into some basics there. 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:12.800 Absolutely, well, that's the last thing we want to do. 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:14.880 Safety first every single time. 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:17.880 How did you go like planning this series? And the 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:20.280 reason I'm asking you this is because I can imagine 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:21.920 because I know the team of people you work with, 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:24.720 they're all amazing, they're all geniuses. How did you go 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.360 throwing ideas around? And can you tease me with anything 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:29.000 that didn't quite make the cut? Did you have any 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:30.880 ideas that you were going to try and put into 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:32.920 this series that got scrapped? 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:35.679 Yes, okay, I'm going to tease you with this. So 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:40.359 we had an idea. It was my idea, and Josie 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.400 kind of liked it, and some other people probably liked 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:45.199 me and said they liked it. But anyway, the idea 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.240 was we were going to get a UK Islander, a female, 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:51.560 and she was going to be a British spy and 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.160 we were going to call it Double Low Heaven. The 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:56.760 idea was that the girl was going to come in 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:59.400 whilst the other girls were out on a beach day 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:04.120 or something and flirt outrageously with the boys. Possibly she 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:05.520 would have had a near piece in and we were 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:07.200 going to be feeding her what to say and what 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:10.080 to do. That was the That was the working idea. 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:13.679 So we went looking for a UK female islander. We 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:16.520 did some googling, we did some watching. We called a 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:19.440 couple of them, you know, we DMed a few of them. 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:23.320 Lucinda got back to us, so Jose and I zoomed Lucinder. 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:26.120 We knew nothing about her. Pultsy was the really girl. 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:28.560 That's all we knew about her. This is Lucinda Strafford, 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:30.920 who you were all going to do very well, very shortly. 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:33.600 She arrived at episode one of this series. Jose and 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:39.760 I zoomed her, and within about four minutes we realized 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:44.079 that my idea was shit and it wasn't going to 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:46.880 work unless you had an actress. And you can't just 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:48.400 ask a girl to go in there and you know, 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:51.240 be that along with the boys, and blah blah blah, blah, 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:53.760 but we loved her so much, like she was so 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:59.439 infectiously incredible, so funny, so beautiful, so desperate for a boyfriend. 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:02.240 Like you know where people are only there for the followers, 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:04.000 and you know, sure, we can take a bit of that, 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:07.079 but this girl desperately wanted a girl. 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:08.840 That boy close to being a bunny boil at. 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:11.720 Yeah, And we were like, do you know what my 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:13.559 idea is? Ship, But let's just put it in a 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:15.800 villa anyway, And so we pitched a channel on and 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:16.960 they saw what we saw and. 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:20.160 They said, yes, but that primo would have been good 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.480 because I could see the bra as the zeros and 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:24.120 then you just put the seven next to it, right, 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:25.959 that would have been good, not bad. 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:27.600 Or maybe we'll go for it again next time. 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:30.800 I just need a little finessing, a little workshopping. 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:34.440 Yeah, we'll just delete this section of the podcast, not 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:36.920 go with it anyway. Now, something else the next time. 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:38.840 But they that's something that didn't make the cart and 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:40.719 that's how that's how Lucinder got in there. It was 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:43.280 a stupid idea that never made it. I'm going to 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:46.439 open my can of coke. You're going to hear as. 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:48.160 I've edited out the can of coke being opened on 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:50.760 every podcast. This is episode four for you. This is 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:53.600 podcast Christmas for me. By the way, Alex, every time 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:55.559 you come on it is my Christmas. 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:58.960 I feel like I need to say something outrageous. Was 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:00.559 the fourth time we've done so. I feel like I 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:02.600 need to be like, hey, I've had a threesome with 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:04.040 Sophie Mung and Julian Moore. 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:06.960 No the Sophie Monk. Oh yeah, there we go, Sophie Monk, 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.000 Julia Morris. It's like you put Sony Krueger in there, 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:12.840 but she's no longer working for you. 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:14.160 Daily Mail, there's your headlong. 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:16.680 I remember once I interviewed someone and you text me 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:19.160 afterwards and you said, I know you just interviewed this person. 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:21.320 What's the Daily Mail headline? And I said, I don't 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:23.360 think I had one. I think you wrote back and said, 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:29.080 what's the point. What's the point of having them on 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:33.040 the podcast anyway? Well, is there a way that you 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:37.160 can communicate with like the other Love Island franchisees, because 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:38.520 I remember back in the day, there was like a 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:41.800 Big Brother headquarters or a summer camp that you all 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:45.120 get together and switch ideas around. Does that kind of 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:48.040 stuff happen for this franchise. Can you all get together 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:49.040 and swap ideas? 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:52.319 Yes, there is, In all honesty, we just watch each 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:54.520 other seasons now. I mean you know that. I remember 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:56.920 going to the Big Brother conference in Amsterdam way back 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:59.360 before your season even I think there must have been twenty eleven, 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:03.000 and it was literally Lucky United Nations. It was sixty 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:06.280 odd producers sitting around a massive table with their little 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:08.400 flags in front of them. It was like, use are 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:11.280 the tasks that we have done in Sweden and we 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.520 think it worked really well. The money that used to 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:16.800 be around in you know, flying their executives around the 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:19.640 world possibly to come back with three, you know, three 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:22.480 task ideas, that shit just doesn't fly anymore. I mean, 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:24.439 you know, there is a Love Island conference that people 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:27.680 do share ideas. I liked, I really liked a couple 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:30.240 of things. America did this this time their most recent series, 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:32.560 and they've got Love Island Games about to launch now, 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:34.960 which is a complete different way of doing the format. 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:37.320 The UK are about to do Love Island All Stars. 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:40.800 People are doing. It's at that stage of the franchise 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:43.600 now where people are starting to do stuff away from 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:46.080 the norm. You know, same thing happened with Big Brother 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:46.960 way back in the day. 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:48.640 I'm going to ask you two quick questions on this 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:52.520 because I just thought of them. Which contestants are so 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:55.719 for Love Island Games? Were you happy with the Australian 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:57.600 people that were picked to be a part of that? 0:13:57.880 --> 0:13:59.920 Well, I suggested them Humby, you know, I suggested that. 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:04.640 So it was the American execs messaged me and they 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:07.000 told me about the show. I was like, great, and 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:09.960 they're like, who's your Australian picks? And I probably went 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:12.480 back with a list of on and say maybe twelve 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:15.280 to fourteen people that I know would have been great, 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:19.120 and they ended up using all five and I think 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:19.880 they only use four. 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:21.880 Do you think they picked the right ones? But they're 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:23.320 the ones you would have picked to do something like 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:24.080 that if you were the EB. 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.080 They've been released somebody, Yes they have so, yes, they 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.200 used to. They use Callum and Jess from season four, 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:31.640 who I absolutely would have you know, I put them 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:35.000 forward and they're brilliant. They are in it from the start. 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:37.400 So I've been seen up to episode ten of Love 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:40.080 on Games, so I can't tell you beyond then. I 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.080 know they ended up using Mitch and Tina, and I 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:43.800 think this is all public domain, so I'm pretty sure 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:44.360 I can talk about this. 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:45.840 No, No, those names are out the fie. I don't 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:47.600 think we know how far they go, but the names 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:49.000 are out, so I think we're pretty safe. 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:51.280 So Callum and Jess are in there, and they are 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:54.440 absolutely fantastic. You know they were brilliant picks Mitch and 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:57.040 Tina that you'd have them in any reality TV show anywhere. 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:00.880 I know that they looked at ca I looked at 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:02.040 Josh Packham. 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:04.480 I think they flew Cassidy over there. I know someone 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:07.040 has flown over there and didn't want to do the 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:09.680 extended lockdown or something, and they had to fly them back. 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:11.000 I remember there was a bit of I don't know 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:11.960 if you heard that, Goss. 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:15.480 I think Cassidy was over there, and I'm not sure 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:17.240 about the detail of why she didn't end up in 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.280 the show, but I think, God Cassidy would be one 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:20.480 of our best Islanders. Everyone. 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:22.480 This is the second part of the question, Alex is 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:25.040 All Stars for this show? Please tell me that in 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:27.000 All Stars is next season, because I need to see 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:30.400 Cassidy back on my screen. She is my favorite Islander. 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:34.040 Of all time. She was so crazy but yet so engaging. 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:35.640 I don't think i'd be friends with her in the 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:38.520 real world, but she was the best. I just and 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:39.680 she needs to do All Stars. 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:43.760 Yeah, she's great reality talent and I just think she's fantastic. Look, 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:45.880 I'm going to say the same thing about All Stars 0:15:45.880 --> 0:15:47.960 as I always said about Big Brother All Stars, and 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:49.520 I was proved right. 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:51.640 I have to say, but absolutely you were correct. 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:55.040 Yp Did you know what it did? It's very hard 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:57.120 to ask people to be as amazing as they were 0:15:57.200 --> 0:15:59.840 the first time round. I would always favor a kind 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:05.040 of virgins versus veterans type SCENARIOO where you have like 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:09.680 maybe half and half or something. I'm very interested to 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:12.360 see how the UK one goes, and I'm very interested 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:14.760 to see how Love alland Games goes. I'd, you know, 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:17.600 always let the two countries with the most money, or 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:20.240 either the UK and the US, go and either make 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.480 it amazing or fuck it up first, and then we 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:24.840 will do whichever one works. That's how we do it 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.840 in Australia, go and go and let someone else fuck 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:28.480 it up first. 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:31.080 Different markets, though Alex Lake is in Do you know 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:33.800 I think that All Stars does not work in Australia. 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:36.360 And I also think we are in some ways getting 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:38.560 close to the end of some of these celebrity shows. 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:41.040 I'm a Celebrity start at so I think it's still safe, 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:44.000 but some of these other franchises, like like as in 0:16:44.040 --> 0:16:45.640 some of these other celebrity ones, it's wearing a little 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:46.080 bit thin. 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:49.200 As the most Celebrity version did or right didn't it? 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:51.600 And I think they've just announced another series They're going 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:52.320 to do another one. 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:55.440 You see. That's as the as the person in charge 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:57.920 of On with Celebrity, that's tough for me because that's 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:00.640 just taken another sixteen celebs off the market. And trust me, 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:04.800 you've made nine seasons of on SLEB and you're trying 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:08.719 to find fourteen or sixteen people to do the tenth season. 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:11.000 Alex, do you know as well as I do that 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:13.720 all the celebrities that were on Amazing Race, they were 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:17.400 all from your shows. Everyone on Amazing Race had done 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:20.080 I'm a Celebrity, or they've been on Love Island, or 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:22.480 they've been on one of your shows. It was hilarious. 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:25.520 They're mining your products, is what I should say. 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:27.639 They are doing with me what I'm doing with the 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:29.680 UK in the US, so like, let's see if Alex 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:33.520 fucks them up first, and if he doesn't, we'll use them. 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:36.399 These people still do these shows after working with you. 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:40.399 I still always think that that is your magic because 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:42.440 so many people I know who've been on reality shows 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:44.280 and never do it again, and they say that they 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:46.960