1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: This episode of Two Good Sports was recorded on Yagora 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: and gaddigul Land. This land was never seated, always was, 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: always will be. Hello and welcome to two Good Sports 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: sports news told differently. 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: I'm Georgie Tunney. 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 3: And I'm Nevo's and Nevo. 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: I am actually on the road this week. I am 8 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: up in Brisbane for shooting some stories for my actual 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: day job, so hopefully this audio will get us through. 10 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: But Nivo, I'm so thrilled to be talking to you 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: once again this week. 12 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: How are you? 13 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 4: I love that you managed a brizzy trip just over 14 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 4: Mother's Day weekend. 15 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 3: Camille would have been oh so happy about that. George, 16 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 3: You've nailed it. 17 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: I know, I know I am actually winning the favorite 18 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: Daughter stakes as well. It's just tic cab. 19 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: It's important. 20 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: It is that actually crucial, actually crucial good sport, badsport, Nevo, 21 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: who if you got? 22 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 4: Do you know what, George, I'm going to move off 23 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 4: the sporting field today to the theater because I went 24 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 4: to see the Robert Mills and Juliette on the weekend. 25 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 4: I know we've been together, George, We've been a few times, 26 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 4: but Rob's been unwell. He has and I thought for 27 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 4: the first time, on like my third or fourth time 28 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 4: seeing Anguliette, I was gonna see his understudy. And then 29 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 4: in this amazing opening to the show, up comes Robert. 30 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 3: It was so wonderful. 31 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 4: I was that like fangirl and you want to talk 32 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 4: it's Rube. It was so great, and I brought the lion. 33 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 4: It was her first time seeing the show. She usually 34 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 4: spent her weekends at football fields, but this weekend she 35 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 4: spent at the theater and she sung all weekend. It 36 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 4: was so special. We absolutely loved it. Are you going 37 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 4: good sport or badsports? 38 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:46,559 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's so cute. 39 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: And can I just say Nevo that you and the 40 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: line were actually his medicine because he has not been 41 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: well at all. But he rallied because he's like, I 42 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: got to get back. I got to get back. I 43 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: know Neivo's coming with her mom and Kara, so that 44 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: just oh, that's so that's so lovely. 45 00:01:59,320 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: Do you know what? 46 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 1: I have been influenced by Univo because sometimes I tend 47 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: to focus on the bad sports in this segment, you know. 48 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 3: But this week one of us has week well not this. 49 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: Week, because I am going a good sport as well. 50 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: And my good sport is Matt Gwelfie. Now he is 51 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: an Essendon player Nevo and a lot of the times look, 52 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: footy players get into the news and the headlines for 53 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: all the wrong reasons, and we give him a lot 54 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: of criticism and a lot of it sometimes is deserved. 55 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: But I tell you what, when they do good, it 56 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: also needs to be acknowledged. And that is what mac 57 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: Welfie did in their game over the weekend Essendon. They 58 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 1: called it it was in honor of kids fighting cancer. 59 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: So they had spent a lot of time at the 60 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: children's hospital in Victoria throughout the week and mac Welfie 61 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: was spending time with a little girl named Alexis, and 62 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: she painted his nails bright red and he said, if 63 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: I score a goal on the weekend, I'm going to celebrate. 64 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 1: I'll put my hands up like this and that'll be 65 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 1: a thank you to you doing spirit fingers and that'll 66 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: be in honor of you. And she said, I believe 67 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: in you, Nivo. This kid kicked three goals goals, So 68 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: we had the celebration for Alexis with the bright red 69 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: nails and I can I just say you should just 70 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: keep those bright Red Nails all the rest of the 71 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: year be all Reese walshon is ramm about it, like 72 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: where the Lucky Red Nigh Lucky Red Nails and the Bombers. 73 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: I tell you what, Now they're in the top four 74 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: and it's like, what the hell? Who has given them 75 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: the right to play well and now actually steal hearts 76 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: with this wholesomeness. 77 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 78 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: So that is my good sport. But also Nevo, we 79 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: could arguably say that our main discussion of the day 80 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: is the goodest sport, maybe one of the goodest sports 81 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: that we have ever ever actually seen, the goodest sport 82 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: of all the goodest sport of crazy years. 83 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: We're not even joking. It's genuine. She bloody well. 84 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: Is she really is? Lydia Williams. 85 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, one of the Matilda's absolute legends. Like 86 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: she is, she's going to be one. She has announced 87 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: her retirement during the week from international football. But we 88 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: are going to get into it and exactly what this 89 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: means for the game, what her legacy is going to be, 90 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: and our own reflection is about just how amazing this 91 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: woman is. 92 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: Nevo. 93 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: As we've been beginning this part of the podcast, most recently, 94 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: I have been hitting you with a question without notice. 95 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 3: Of my favorite books, George, you know, I think quick? 96 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 2: Do you know what? I think? 97 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 5: It's a tradition that I'm going to keep going because 98 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 5: because in honor of Lydia Williams announcing her retirement, I 99 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 5: thought that just on the theme of retirement Neva, which 100 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 5: we've actually accidentally touched on the last couple of weeks too, 101 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 5: after Garbina mugar Rutha retired at thirty wayn Bennett refuses 102 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 5: to retire. 103 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: Ever, who's retirement hit you hard? When it comes to 104 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: when it comes to sport? 105 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 3: Do you know what I feel? 106 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: Like? 107 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 4: The obvious answer, as the proud and Novocastrian I am 108 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 4: and new South Welsh woman would be Andrew John's. But 109 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 4: do you know who I loved George as a cricketer, 110 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 4: Adam Gilchrist. 111 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 6: Yes. 112 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 3: I loved the way that he played the game. 113 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 4: I loved the way that he walked when he felt 114 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 4: he needed to and copped flack and questions about it 115 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 4: for years during his career. 116 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 3: I loved the ingenuity of the way he. 117 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 4: Fought back from different periods where he wasn't scoring runs 118 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 4: at times like there's stories there that kind of just 119 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 4: go into folklore. And when he retired we had lost 120 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 4: a few key blokes from his generation, like Shane Warn 121 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 4: Glenn McGrath, I think Justin Langer as well, had all 122 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 4: retired in the previous kind of twelve months and so 123 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 4: you're already felt like it was a chaining. 124 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 3: Of the guard. And then Gilly announced he was going 125 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: to as well. Who was like, no, you are the 126 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 3: way cricket should be played. It's just not gonna be 127 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 3: saying again, is it for me? 128 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: I obviously as a. 129 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: Queenslander and Brisbane night Brisbanian Brisbanepanian Brisbanean, Oh my god, 130 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: bris Vegan, let's make it a thing. I love that. 131 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: But then it was like be spelt like bris vegan 132 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: and then that's weird, isn't it. 133 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 2: But Darren lockean Yes. When Darren Locke. 134 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: Retired, I remember sobbing because he is one of the 135 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: legends of the Brisbane Broncos, the Queensland team, the Australian team. 136 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: I grew up watching him. I thought I was going 137 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: to marry him, like legit. I was like, that will 138 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: happen despite our fourteen year age gap. Who even cares 139 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: like we. 140 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 2: Are definitely going to get married. I loved absolutely. 141 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: I was so obsessed with him, so that one, Yeah, 142 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: that one really really got me. But I have to 143 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: say inn nevough during the week when I got the 144 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: opportunity to talk to Lyddia Williams, Matilda's legendary keeper, and 145 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: she told me her story or shared the news that 146 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: she is going to step away from international football at 147 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: the end of the Olympics. 148 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 2: Oh, I felt it too. I really felt this one. 149 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 4: She has been such a part of this Matilda's side 150 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 4: for so long, George, and you know, like Sam Kerr 151 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 4: is synonymous with the Matildas these days, Lydds has been 152 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 4: the same. She's been a part of that setup for 153 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 4: nineteen years, which is ridiculous. But when my little lion 154 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 4: first started kicking your football and we would play football 155 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 4: in the street, one of us would always be Sam 156 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 4: and one would always be Lids. 157 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 3: That's what she'd be, like, I be Lids Like. That's 158 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: the kind. 159 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 4: Of profile right that she has had within this team 160 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 4: that if you're going to pick two players within the side, 161 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 4: Lydds has always been one of them. 162 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 2: Always. That is her stature. 163 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: She's the longest serving Matilda, She's cap number one thirty 164 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: eight and Nevo at the time. 165 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 2: Of us recording this podcast episode. 166 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: Right now, I do believe that Lids is turning thirty six. 167 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: It's her birthday. 168 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 4: Happy Birthday, Lids, Happy Firdodes. 169 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: And Nevo has a present. 170 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:20,119 Speaker 4: I did I wore my never Say Die Matilda's shirt today, George, 171 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 4: because I knew you were talking about LIDS and I 172 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 4: was looking at that cap number one thirty eight. Do 173 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 4: not blows my mind how many players have come afterwards, 174 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 4: how many players she has shown through that Matilda's setup. 175 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 4: And she talked about that in her conversation with you, George, 176 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 4: about wanting that place that had always been so special 177 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 4: and close to her heart, and she came into Matilda's 178 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 4: side shortly after her dad had died and found that 179 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 4: welcome and that home. She came into the setup at 180 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 4: fifteen understudy for Melissa Barbieri for Bubbs, and she talked 181 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 4: about always wanting to welcome others into that Matilda's family 182 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 4: in the same way that she had been welcomed. 183 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: Yes, And I think that that really does some Lids 184 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: up as a person. When you're in her presence, she 185 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 1: has this wonderful energy. She's calming, but she's also commanding. 186 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: She commands the space you want to be around. 187 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 3: He's a boss. 188 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's a boss. You want to listen to her. 189 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: And I think that that really did start or that 190 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: energy has come from her upbringing. She grew up in 191 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: Calgooli in Western Australia. She had a First Nation's father 192 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: and an American mother who was a missionary who traveled 193 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: to Australia, fell in love, stayed here. 194 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: They had lids. They used to travel around. 195 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: To remote communities and help. They would talk to all 196 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: of the people there who are not necessarily thriving, and 197 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: anything that they could do to help, they would do. 198 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: And I think that that is where she got that 199 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: sense of social advocacy for sure, but that sense of 200 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: wanting to be a mentor and wanting people to achieve 201 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,959 Speaker 1: whatever they want, whatever a dream was not out of reach, 202 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: and that was where it was ingrained for her. 203 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 4: And as you see those incredible pictures of her as 204 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 4: a kid, as a tiny little tacker kicking a football 205 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 4: barefoot in the red dirt of West Australia, and that 206 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 4: when they did the Matilda's documentary on Disney last year, 207 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 4: those pictures that story so powerful, George. When she moved 208 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 4: to Camera she'd never worn football boots to play football before. 209 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 3: That was the first time, Yeah. 210 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 2: Which is isn't that insane? 211 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: And she's like, so they travel from so they've been 212 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: living in Western Australia. They traveled to Camera lives Is 213 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: in her early teens to start a new life there, 214 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: and she doesn't know anything about football, but her mom's like, 215 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: you got to make friends, so you need to be like. 216 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 2: You know, joining all the teams. 217 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, gotta get join the team sport. And so she 218 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: started playing football for at the very very junior level, 219 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: and she wasn't going to be a keeper. 220 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 2: She had no idea what it was. 221 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: To be honest, I'm sure, but her coach was like, well, 222 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: we don't have anyone doing that, so we're just going 223 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: to put you in the sticks, like you'll just you'll 224 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: just be You'll be keeper. And it was a position 225 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: that she never left Nevo because she showed such promise 226 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: at an early age, and I. 227 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 4: Love at that early age it wasn't just promise, it 228 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 4: was also that competitive spirit. Like she was given the 229 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 4: option there to play in Division one as the goalkeeper 230 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 4: or to play as an outfield player in Division four and 231 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 4: already at that young age. I mean I would have 232 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 4: been like, oh, yeah, I might play did four. Let's 233 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 4: let's play that. That sounds like the best idea. She 234 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 4: was like, Nana, I'll play div one and I'll. 235 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 3: Show you how to keep. 236 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 4: I love that she embraced that, that challenge from the first, 237 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 4: from the get go. 238 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: And that competitive spirit we have seen and we have 239 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: been blessed with over the last nearly two decades. Nearly 240 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: two decades. When I asked lids though Nevo, if you 241 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: know why she wanted to be a keeper, she was 242 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: very adamant that, oh she didn't. 243 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 4: It was that's generally known to be mad as cut 244 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 4: snakes goldkey, yes, right, yes, yes, And. 245 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: Do you know what. 246 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 6: I hadn't actually been thinking about it properly before. But 247 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 6: they throw themselves like the fall, the impact that they 248 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 6: have no wonder her body. She's had a long run 249 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 6: with injuries, but they really do just have no self 250 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 6: preservation at all. 251 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: It would be a good keeper anyway. 252 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, and a mental fortitude to be able to put 253 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 4: a goal or a mistake or a moment in a 254 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 4: game behind you and re engage for what comes next, 255 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 4: because if you crumble after that first goal goes past, 256 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 4: do you bug it? 257 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 258 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I would be like, okay. 259 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: Gotta go. 260 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 4: So we know, you know, goalkeepers sent to mature when 261 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 4: they're a little bit older. But she has always had 262 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 4: that great ability to despite her height and her long 263 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 4: limbs to get down to the ball. And the other 264 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 4: thing you hear the players say George is that she's 265 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 4: an incredible communicator, so vocal as Adam Gilchrist would have 266 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 4: been behind the stuff in his day, so vocal communicating 267 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 4: with her defenders, reads. 268 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 3: The play so well. 269 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 4: She's really quick off her line, so like super mobile 270 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 4: and athletic. You can see why despite a couple of 271 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 4: knee reconstructions, despite those injury issues that she's had at 272 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 4: different times throughout her career, why she has been at 273 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 4: the top of her game for almost two decades. 274 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: And you talk about the maturing of some of these players, 275 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: I feel that, you know, well, you know when people 276 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: are described as old souls, it's like they're an old soul. 277 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: I really feel that with Liz because I was like, 278 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: how do you cope with all the pressure of this, Like, 279 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, when it is a penalty shootout, what on 280 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: earth is going through your mind? And she goes, oh, no, no, no, 281 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: I no pressure's on me. The pressures on the striker, 282 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: The pressure's on the person trying to kick the ball, 283 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 1: like everyone's expecting them to score. If I somehow save it, 284 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: I've pulled off the greatest thing ever. And I think 285 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: that that kind of mentality has been with her from 286 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: a very early age, because she did have to grow 287 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: up quite fast because the loss of her dad when 288 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: she was fourteen fifteen years old. I think that that 289 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: obviously had a gigantic effect. He was such a huge 290 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: supporter of her. He was such a huge supporter of 291 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: her sport and of encouraging her to see the bigger picture. 292 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: And she talks about this very very openly, that it 293 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: always felt like he had a bigger path for her. Well, 294 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: life had a bigger path for her, and he acknowledged 295 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: that because he wanted her to achieve things so that 296 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: then their people, first nations people would be able to 297 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: see that and be like, I can do that. If 298 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: Lidz is doing that, that's the role model that I 299 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: need and want, And now I can actually be whatever 300 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: I want to be. 301 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 4: And I think we've seen that George on and off 302 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 4: the park, haven't we And we're going to see even 303 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 4: more of it off the park in the coming years, 304 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 4: because I have no doubt she's going to continue to 305 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 4: do really incredible things. But in twenty fifteen, when the 306 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 4: Matildas went on strike, they were searching for equal pay. 307 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 4: Their collective bargaining agreement had come to the end after 308 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 4: that twenty fifteen World Cup. She was a key part 309 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 4: in that, and not just a key part in the 310 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 4: decision to go on strike, which was incredibly brave. Women's 311 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 4: sporting teams in Australia had never gone on strike before. 312 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 3: But she also spoke up. 313 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 4: She was the voice, she was the face of it, 314 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 4: and that is such a brave thing to do because, 315 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 4: as we know, sticking your head up above the parapet 316 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 4: does not always end. 317 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 2: Well, usually famously does not. 318 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 4: Yeah anyone in society, but particularly for women and particularly 319 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 4: for Indigenous people. 320 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 3: And yet she. 321 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 4: Showed incredible leadership and still does through the PFA. So 322 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 4: you know, she spoke about it in her conversation with you, 323 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 4: but looking always to leave the game in a better 324 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 4: place than where she found it, and has actioned, seriously 325 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 4: actioned stuff over the years to ensure that that is 326 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 4: absolutely the case. 327 00:15:58,600 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 2: You think about it. 328 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: FIF really isn't that long ago, Like we're not even 329 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: talking a decade ago, and then Matilda's were going on strike. 330 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: Because they weren't getting paid. 331 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: Like what I mean the growth that we have seen 332 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: over that time, that period of time, and Lidz has 333 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: been there throughout it all and has been a driving 334 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: force for that change, that change for the better. She 335 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: actually joined well, she was called up into the Matilda's 336 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: training camp at fifteen years of age. She made her 337 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: debut at seventeen. She has one hundred and three international caps. 338 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: Let's just sit with that for a second. One hundred 339 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: and three games for the Matilda's incredible. 340 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 2: It's mental. 341 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: Her list of achievements. She's got five A League Women's 342 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: Goalkeeper of the Year awards. She's won the Players Player 343 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: of the Year in the A League Women's twenty eleven 344 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: twenty twelve season. She's been inducted into the Aboriginal ANDed 345 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: Torrestrait Islander Sports Hall of Fame. Like the list of accolades, 346 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: we don't have a long enough episode to go through 347 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: them all. 348 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 4: She's also been involved George in five World Cups. Five, 349 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 4: remembering of course that they happen every four years, right, 350 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 4: so to be at that level for that many years, 351 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 4: that consistency is mind blowing. 352 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 3: And at the Olympics. 353 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 4: In Paris, course the squad yet to be announced, that 354 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 4: would be her third Olympic Games. 355 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, which is nuts. And surely she's there Nevo. I 356 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: know she's seen most recently as kind of the backup keeper, 357 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: so keeper number two, because of course we have Mackenzie Arnold, 358 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: you know, shadow Minister of Defense Defense. 359 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 4: That's right, who she's brought through as well, George, and 360 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 4: I think that is such an incredible thing. We talk 361 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 4: about the Goalkeepers Union, well, the impact that Lid's has 362 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 4: had on McKenzie Arnold, on Teagan Micah and their journey 363 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 4: coming through is massive. 364 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 3: That ability for all three of. 365 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 4: Them at different times throughout their careers, but to be 366 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 4: on the bench and to support others is such a 367 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 4: selfless thing and she Macca talks about it now about 368 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 4: the impact that LIDZ has had on helping bring her through. 369 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,479 Speaker 4: And in terms of the Olympics, we know that it's 370 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 4: an eighteen player squad, right, so we know that squad's 371 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 4: going to be cut. They'll take two keepers, but they 372 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 4: do have to take an additional keeper, so one additional 373 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 4: keeper will go as an alternate. And it's the only 374 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 4: position within the squad that you can swap in, So 375 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 4: you can swap a keeper in at any time during 376 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 4: the tournament. 377 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 3: It's the only position that that applies to. 378 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 4: So I think, at the very least, I think we 379 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 4: will see her go to Paris as an alternative. Yes, 380 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 4: even if it's Maca and Tiger Micah who are the 381 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 4: one two and that leadership for that squad off the field, 382 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 4: that she provides that tournament experience that will be so 383 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 4: important as well. 384 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: So important, and to be fair, it's deserved. She deserves 385 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: to go to Paris. She deserves to have the farewell 386 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: with this team. She's leaving on her own terms. She's 387 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: not lost the game of football. She is going to 388 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: have a break. She's like, I just need some time 389 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: after the Olympics. 390 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 3: Give me a minute. 391 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna need some time to figure out what I 392 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 1: want to do, who I want to be. Because we 393 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: talk off of NIVO when it comes to athletes and 394 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: their retirements, they get to live a whole new life. 395 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: It's like they live like multiple lives in one and 396 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: she really can cove whatever path she wants to now, 397 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: and I know it'll be somewhere in the social advocacy 398 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: s based of course, Like I don't think that she 399 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: can be separated from that, and she will still be 400 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: with the Matilda's because it's just impossible for her not 401 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: to be. She is such a great advertisement for the 402 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: game for anyone growing up, boys or girls because, as 403 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: you point out Nevo, she literally has seen it all. 404 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: But in twenty fourteen, this is again just to see 405 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: the changes that have happened while Liz has been in 406 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: this team. In twenty fourteen, the Matilda's played two matches 407 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: against Brazil in Queensland. Now we are used to soul 408 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: out stadiums for them now right they've had what thirteen fourteen, 409 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: fourteen in row, But back then only two and a 410 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: half thousand fans attended Game one against Brazil. 411 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: Let's just remember that as well. 412 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: It's Brazil, and the second match was played behind closed 413 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: doors because FFA, it was their known Football Federation of 414 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: Australia would have lost money by opening the stadium up. 415 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: They weren't getting enough people in there. Now, have a look. 416 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 2: To last year twenty twenty three. 417 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: Lid's got to see the crowds that we saw at 418 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: the Women's World Cup. That is astronomical, an astronomical change. 419 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 4: Insofar as now they can play in any stadium in 420 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 4: Australia and back themselves in to fill that joint, that 421 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 4: tickets will be the hottest ticket in town. A play 422 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 4: in Adelaide already a sellout and then they'll play in 423 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 4: Sydney against China, that send off game before the Olympics. 424 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 4: George and I think also a sendoff game for LIDS 425 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 4: and the ability a moment for football fans in Australia 426 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 4: to go along to hopefully see her inaction. Surely she'll play, 427 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 4: Surely she'll start, surely and really take that moment to go. 428 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 4: This is a legend, Yeah, this is a legend that 429 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 4: has seen that incredible growth within football in Australia has 430 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 4: forced it, has brought it about through her work on 431 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 4: the field and off it and its ability for us 432 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 4: to go along and be a part of that moment. 433 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: That's the thing and that's the change that again she 434 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: has directly helped. You talked about the strike NIVO in 435 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: twenty ten. The Matilda's on average we're earning twenty thousand. 436 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: Dollars a year. 437 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: That was their wage since twenty fifteen, that strike and 438 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 1: the deal that was struck in twenty nineteen where the 439 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: Soccer is equal pay deal for soccer Is and the Matildas. 440 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: Now players can earn up two two hundred thousand dollars 441 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: when they play for the national team. Like, this is 442 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: societal change. It is, of course sporting change, but it 443 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: is so much bigger than that. As a human Nevo, 444 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: how would you describe Lidz because you know her very well. 445 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 1: I know her pretty well. She's awesome. What are your 446 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: reflections on her as a human. 447 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 4: It's such a hard one, George and Lyds, isn't I've 448 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 4: interviewed her a number of times over year. She's not 449 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 4: one of my close mates. I bloody wish she was. 450 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 3: I mean you two had a cuddle after that record 451 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 3: the other day. 452 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, a pretty good friend. 453 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 4: But yeah it externally, I just see it as such 454 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 4: an incredible person, an incredible human and a real leader 455 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 4: with an Australian sport, so driving that change that we 456 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 4: want to see and that we want to be a 457 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 4: part of. 458 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 3: And we've done whole episodes, George, on equal. 459 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 4: Pay and looking at pay equity, you talk about the 460 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 4: wage growth for the Matildas, but even just where they 461 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 4: fly in the airplane, George, like back in those days, 462 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 4: then the years, the numbers that you're quoting. If the 463 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 4: Matilda's and the oli rus were getting on the plane 464 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 4: to go to the Paris Olympics, then the Tillies would 465 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 4: have been heading to the back of the plane and 466 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 4: the Oli Ruz would have been in the point end 467 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 4: up the front right. And the work that she has 468 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 4: done with the PFA and through that collective bargaining agreement 469 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 4: they have those commitments set now they're part of the 470 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 4: contractual arrangement between themselves and Football Australia and it means 471 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 4: that they will fly business class wherever it is that 472 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 4: they are playing in the same way that the men's 473 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 4: side will. 474 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: Yes. 475 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 4: So it's really driving that societal change and sport has 476 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 4: that incredible ability when you have leaders like Lids, it 477 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 4: has that incredible ability to drag the rest of the 478 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 4: society along with it. 479 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you're not get off the plane. 480 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 3: But she's your bff, she's your bff, Doorge, how would 481 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,959 Speaker 3: you describe her as a human kind. 482 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: She's very kind and I would also say selfless the 483 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: role that she has taken on as a mentor within 484 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: this team. And we've spoken about just how compared it. 485 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: She is right and you have to be, but there's 486 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: something so selfless about taking a step back when maybe 487 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: you know that you're not the strongest player anymore. There's 488 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 1: the youth coming through, but instead of being so oppositional 489 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: to that, you're trying to foster it and really support that. 490 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,239 Speaker 1: I think that there is something so magical about that, 491 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: and a lot of the time, in lots of different teams, 492 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: you don't actually get to see that, or you're not 493 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 1: made aware of it because it's like they retire, you 494 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,919 Speaker 1: never see them again, or you don't they retire and 495 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: you don't get to really say goodbye. It's so quick. 496 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: Whereas we actually have an opportunity here with Liz to 497 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: say thank you not just for what she's given the country, 498 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: but for what will come because of her. People speak 499 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: about Tim Cahill, John Ella, we see with that kind 500 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: of reverence that should be one thousand percent reserve for 501 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 1: lids as well. 502 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 2: Nevo. 503 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: We've got some time, just the tiniest little wee bit 504 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: of time for. 505 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 2: Another fun fact. Are you ready? 506 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 3: I'm sorry and Nevo. 507 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: This is actually a very i would say relevant fun 508 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: fact because we have discussed at length on this podcast 509 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: a particular athlete named Kaitlyn Clark and the effect that 510 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: she's having women's football and I hate this term, but 511 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: women's sport in general around the world. 512 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 3: Also women's basketball. She's better known for. 513 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: Yes one percent and that's you're right, yeah, yeah, probably, 514 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: But we talked about the Kaitlyn Clark effect NEVO and 515 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: how that is making gigantic waves in women's basketball over 516 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: in America, in particular the WNBA. Now she's been drafted 517 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: this year. She is preparing to make her debut for 518 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: the Indiana Fever and NIVO. This is the effect that 519 00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: she has streaming Giant. Disney Plus is going to broadcast 520 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: her debut game, the Fever up against Connecticut's Son, which 521 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: is going to represent their first as in Disney's first 522 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 1: foray into a live event like this, a live sporting event. 523 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 4: What I love them backing in these boss women as well. 524 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 4: We mentioned before the Disney Plus docco of the Matilda's 525 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 4: The World at Your Feet Still there, go. 526 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 3: And watch it. 527 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 4: It's incredible and you can see more on Lids's story 528 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 4: as well. But now they're be doing this and backing 529 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 4: in the Caitlin Clark effect that gives all of us 530 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 4: access to that moment. 531 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I'm so excited to see what all 532 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: the hypeer is about. I'm so excited to see our 533 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: girl on the court. And you know, Nivo, we are 534 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: now honorary basketball stars, aren't we, because you know we 535 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: talked about it first. 536 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 3: So are you gonna start shooting hoops? 537 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 4: George? 538 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: Obviously? Obviously, I'll be amazing at it. Think of me 539 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: at the free throw line? I mean, is there a 540 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: better side? I don't think so. I don't think so. 541 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 1: That is all. 542 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 3: Look out, Caitlin Clark. Georgie Tunney is coming for you. 543 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: That is all we have time for this week on 544 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: Too Good Sports. Thank you so much for listening. As always, 545 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: follow us on socials at two Good Sports Podcasts. 546 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 2: We'll catch you next week, but until 547 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 3: Then, be a good sport.