Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex
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Speaker 1: cater and we have another installment of the Life of Karen.
Speaker 1: As I said, I myself confessed to Karen. Is it true? Yes,
Speaker 1: it's true. In some respects, I am trying to eradicate
Speaker 1: some of the Karen behaviors, but also I need to
Speaker 1: be true to who I am and what's in.
Speaker 2: The stris and effect. The more attention you draw to it,
Speaker 2: the bigger it gets. Like maybe before you were like
Speaker 2: a dormant Karen, but now you are a capital k Aaren.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 1: I just feel like people equate Karens to people who
Speaker 1: listen to Pink and I equate that to people who
Speaker 1: are mums, and I'm sick of it. It's a gender inclusion.
Speaker 1: I want more inclusion for Karens. It's a broad it's
Speaker 1: a broad broad way of life for a lot of people. Okay,
Speaker 1: so leave them out of it. Throwing a passive aggressive
Speaker 1: social cue my way. I always ignore it. Only respond
Speaker 1: to the words that passive aggressive people say. So if
Speaker 1: someone says I'm fine, I'm fine, it's whatever. Okay, they're fine.
Speaker 1: It's whatever, respond only to the words that they say
Speaker 1: now the tone they see them in. I go on
Speaker 1: TikTok and I find this video thinking, wow, flax, it's
Speaker 1: gonna find this really really insightful. So when someone says
Speaker 1: to you.
Speaker 2: No, I got it, I definitely got it.
Speaker 1: Do you do you see the value in that?
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of, Like when I'm interacting with
Speaker 2: passive aggressive people and I don't think I do it
Speaker 2: that often, or I feel like I'm more likely to
Speaker 2: just call somebody out to vary degrees of success. Like
Speaker 2: if i feel like someone's being passive aggressive, I'm like,
Speaker 2: what's with the attitude, right, which is not helpful because
Speaker 2: they're gonna double down and be like I have attitude.
Speaker 2: I'll be like, well you are. You just rolled your
Speaker 2: eyes and I'd be like, no, no, I didn't, and
Speaker 2: then you're just now angry, which is more productive than
Speaker 2: the passive aggression because now it's been acknowledged and now
Speaker 2: you get to adjust your attitude because you know I
Speaker 2: clocked it right. I like this in theory, but I
Speaker 2: feel like the solution to more passive aggression isn't more
Speaker 2: passive aggression, because because do.
Speaker 1: You think that's passive aggressive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm trying to imagine situations where somebody would
Speaker 2: be passive aggressive and if I'm giving them the fit,
Speaker 2: the doubt and like you don't feel safe or comfortable
Speaker 2: to express how you feel, so like shouldn't I feel
Speaker 2: like what would be what would make more sense is
Speaker 2: to recognize the invitation to inquire gently, not to just
Speaker 2: like dismiss. I don't really know if that would work
Speaker 2: for the party, because you know they're lying and now
Speaker 2: they're kind of like, I don't know if it's effective
Speaker 2: in the real world. This was like an internet like
Speaker 2: an internet take that like lives in like a fake scenario.
Speaker 1: You know what she had us listening?
Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's great to start the conversation. But
Speaker 2: for example, for me, if you if this morning you
Speaker 2: were like, hell are you babe? And I was like, ugh, fine,
Speaker 2: obviously I'd.
Speaker 1: Be like, what have I done?
Speaker 2: You're like okay? Would you be like okay cool? No,
Speaker 2: you'd be like, clearly she's not in a good mood.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to like dismiss that because she won't
Speaker 2: acknowledge it. I don't know what is the best case scenario.
Speaker 1: But like I guess maybe it's when someone is like
Speaker 1: being passive aggressive to you in a way that they
Speaker 1: are doing it on purpose and they've got no real
Speaker 1: reason to, like they're just trying to be manipulative. If
Speaker 1: you don't want to play into the games, like maybe
Speaker 1: they're a bit of a bully or they're trying to
Speaker 1: toy with your emotions.
Speaker 2: Then like you're not taking the bait.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's essentially not taking the bait. And because
Speaker 1: sometimes I think when you're not taking the bait, it
Speaker 1: can come across like you're taking the bait double down.
Speaker 1: Whereas if you just respond and try and keep it
Speaker 1: cool and you just mimic their tone like a bird,
Speaker 1: use your listening, like what do you call it?
Speaker 2: Like a minor?
Speaker 1: Like a minor.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, I think we can workshop that one a
Speaker 2: little bit. I'm happy to try it. I just don't
Speaker 2: where are the passive versts of people. They do not
Speaker 2: talk around me. I'm not I just don't feel like
Speaker 2: I'm the right audience for passive agress. They're a bit
Speaker 2: too scared. Yeah, just ignore me because you don't want
Speaker 2: the smoke, and I don't want the smoke either, you know,
Speaker 2: simple as that give it.
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