WEBVTT - A Wanted Felon?! 🚨

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<v Speaker 1>Hello.

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<v Speaker 2>It's me artsimone, and I have a very special skill

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<v Speaker 2>judging people. In fact, I'm so good at it, I've

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<v Speaker 2>managed to wrangle a podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of it. Can you believe?

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<v Speaker 2>Now? I sit down with regular, every day, sometimes very

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<v Speaker 2>drab looking people, and I judge them so hard and

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<v Speaker 2>July I figure out what they're concealing from us.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows what today will bring.

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<v Speaker 2>It might be juicy, it might be freaky, or it

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<v Speaker 2>might be very private.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's find out roll the tide.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, am Amy. I'm thirty years old and I currently

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<v Speaker 3>reside in Sydney. I'm a Gemini and I also have

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<v Speaker 3>an identical twin sister. I have a law degree and

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<v Speaker 3>I work very long and odd hours, sometimes very early

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<v Speaker 3>in the morning to around midnight, whatever it takes to

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<v Speaker 3>get the job done. My job takes up a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of times, so I don't have much time for anything else.

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<v Speaker 3>But I am considering something that is very private about me.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, hallo, Amy, how are you? Yeah? Good?

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks? Thanks for having me today.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh thanks for.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming on down now. I've never seen you before in

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<v Speaker 2>my life. This is my first time laying eyes on you.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're seeing in front of me you look nice

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<v Speaker 2>and cozy in a nice little jumper. You've got your

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<v Speaker 2>big glasses on. Does that mean are they prescription?

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<v Speaker 3>They are definitely prescriptions.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, because I know some people that wear them just

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<v Speaker 2>for aesthetics, and as someone that has to wear glasses,

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<v Speaker 2>I find that appropriation of my culture.

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoy those eyeballs while you have that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's absolutely anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, with glasses, got to jumper, beautiful, smile, brown hair, stunning.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, law, So you've studied law or you're still studying.

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<v Speaker 3>I have completed my degree.

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<v Speaker 2>Technically, like you're a lawyer. Technically, yes, but that's not

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<v Speaker 2>what you're concealing from me.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, so all right, and what type of

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<v Speaker 2>law do you special arts in? Me?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't practice law at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh did you have to specialize in a certain area

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<v Speaker 2>when you were studying?

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<v Speaker 3>No, so I did a Bachelor of Laws. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>you study different types of law. Taught law, contract law

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<v Speaker 3>to basic law in university and then I did the

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<v Speaker 3>mission to the Supreme Court as a solicitor. But I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't get my practicing certificate.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what any of that says. But I've

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<v Speaker 2>met Geina Aliano and she wears a funny hat.

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<v Speaker 1>So and you have.

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<v Speaker 2>An identical twins sister, I do. Okay, now what's that like?

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<v Speaker 2>How has that been for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, I had a bit of an identity

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<v Speaker 3>crisis when I was growing up. They would say, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>are you Amy or Mel? And I'll be like, it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's Amy, Like oh well, same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You sit out there, you dare you?

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly right?

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<v Speaker 1>Interchangeable. I'm not the spare.

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<v Speaker 3>I was not the Spare, yeah exactly. I tried my

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<v Speaker 3>best to do something absolutely different to my twin sister

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of career choice everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>All I think it was like the Veronicas and one

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<v Speaker 2>went blonde and I still don't know which ones which,

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<v Speaker 2>which is probably not helping the situation. But do you

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<v Speaker 2>like the Veronica's a very important question.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't mind their music.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay, good.

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<v Speaker 2>So what I'm going to be doing is ask you

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<v Speaker 2>three questions, and from the answers to those three questions,

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<v Speaker 2>I am going to try and work out what it

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<v Speaker 2>is that you're concealing from me.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yep, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Question number one, did you have a special skill growing up.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, when I was growing up, I was I went

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<v Speaker 3>to a Catholic school, so there's a lot of Catholicism.

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<v Speaker 3>And my sister, my twin sister, and I got up

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<v Speaker 3>to no good. So we concoct this plan to watch

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<v Speaker 3>the priest's movement. So we like slipped under the gates

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<v Speaker 3>and there was all this mud, so we lift up

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<v Speaker 3>the skirt, made sure that only our knees got muddy.

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<v Speaker 3>We watched the priest exit the church, and we slipped in,

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<v Speaker 3>stole some of the wine, the holy bread as well,

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<v Speaker 3>marked around in there, ask God for forgiveness, and then

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<v Speaker 3>we back out. And then there was boys that did

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing. Obviously they didn't get into the church

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<v Speaker 3>or break into the church, but we did. And then

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<v Speaker 3>the principle will actually pinned that on them on the

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<v Speaker 3>boys say, we all muddy and we weren't right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, see your special skill growing up with being a

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<v Speaker 2>secret spy, sleuth, thieve, slash putting it on someone else. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>I do enjoy that. You're like, why are we here,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just get the next step out?

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, please forgive us, sorry on the way out.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't mind if I do, yes, put on someone else.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Question number two, what reality show would you be most

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<v Speaker 2>likely to go on?

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<v Speaker 3>I would say The Hunted?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, okay, can you describe The Hunted for someone

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<v Speaker 2>that hasn't seen it before.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a reality TV show. We've got people that are

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<v Speaker 3>outlaws that have to get away from the Hunters, and

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<v Speaker 3>if you're able to outrun the Hunters, you get a

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<v Speaker 3>cash price.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, money would be good, wouldn't it. I know the

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<v Speaker 2>guy that won the first season. Fun fact, he actually

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<v Speaker 2>reached out to me, like Wiley was on because of

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<v Speaker 2>one of the weeks he got into disguise and they

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<v Speaker 2>dresses like old ladies or something, just get away from them.

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<v Speaker 2>But he wanted me to like doing up and drag

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<v Speaker 2>for one of them. Didn't happen. So it was like,

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<v Speaker 2>what the hell is this? Hunted? Are you actually in trouble?

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<v Speaker 2>What's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, I can't tell you the details. It's well

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<v Speaker 1>not happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Love Okay, Hunted runs Okay, I'm getting sneaky vibes, sneaky snake.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Question number three, If you were to get arrested, what

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<v Speaker 2>would most people assume it would be for.

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<v Speaker 3>Brey can enter? Okay, this is there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>hashtag thug life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a lot of criminal vibe in the room.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, a lot of sneaky snakes, a lot of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is why we have crim safe. Okay, this is

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<v Speaker 2>because of you, I reckon? Can I sponsor this?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's recap Okay, thirty years old Gemini, half of

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<v Speaker 2>an identical sister duo.

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<v Speaker 1>Practice law.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah all right, Okay, breaking and entering is just a

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<v Speaker 2>common theme that's coming across your breaking and entering?

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<v Speaker 1>What could that be? Is this legal?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Am I have I got an actual criminal in front

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<v Speaker 1>of me?

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<v Speaker 2>Like? Can I guess that? Or Okay, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of crime. Oh but then maybe you could flip it

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<v Speaker 2>on the other song. It could be oh I hate crime,

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<v Speaker 2>gu because maybe to like fight the crime, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to be a criminal.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, are you a wanted felon? Like? Do I have

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<v Speaker 1>to report this to believe?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a private investigator. I'm running a private investigation firm

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<v Speaker 3>based in Sydney. We specialize in corporate investigations, finding missing people,

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<v Speaker 3>doing background checks and due diligence, as well as specializing

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<v Speaker 3>in infidelity and helping people with their personal affairs.

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<v Speaker 2>I was getting there because I was like, you've got

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to think like them to like I

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<v Speaker 2>nearly got it, but also maybe still I wanted fell

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<v Speaker 2>and you're not telling us.

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<v Speaker 3>Keep that under wraps on mine.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so she's a private investigator. I thought they were

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<v Speaker 2>only from the movies. Well, stay away from our privates.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't need investigating. But I'm sure there's some good

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<v Speaker 2>scandalous story. All Right, we're here with Amy, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>found out that she is not a wanted felon that

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<v Speaker 2>we know of. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>She is a private investigator.

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<v Speaker 2>Are how do you even become a private investigator? She

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<v Speaker 2>just like wake up one day and go, oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just going to do that, Like how's it happened?

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<v Speaker 3>Well for me personally, it was just by chance. So

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<v Speaker 3>you just got like a job in a private investigation firm,

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<v Speaker 3>like locating stolen vehicles now like high vehicles like Hurtz

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<v Speaker 3>and Avis and things like that, soople to put false

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<v Speaker 3>details down. So start off doing basic things like that,

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<v Speaker 3>locating those vehicles for those companies. And then I started

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<v Speaker 3>with insurance for all investigations, and I kind of just

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<v Speaker 3>went off on my own. And then learned all the

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<v Speaker 3>skills on field and things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I've never really put too much thought into

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<v Speaker 2>this because everyone goes, oh the police do that, but

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<v Speaker 2>they don't care about insurance for au. They don't care

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<v Speaker 2>about things like that because that is more about speeding

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<v Speaker 2>tickets and blood and gut some dead people, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's right. The civil matters, like, for example, if

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<v Speaker 3>someone obsconds with a lot of debt and they disappear

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<v Speaker 3>because they've done a runner, we locate them, tracked them

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<v Speaker 3>down and help get that money back.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy though.

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<v Speaker 2>So you just saw a job advertised, you said, I

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<v Speaker 2>reckon I could do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, that's how you got into it. Where are you

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<v Speaker 2>at now? Like do you have your own business or

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<v Speaker 2>you like Amy's crim Safe. I'll start back with the

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<v Speaker 2>crim Safe again, like where are you at now? In

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<v Speaker 2>the world of private investigation?

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<v Speaker 3>So I run my own company, which is national and

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<v Speaker 3>career agency. So it's a business where clients come to

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<v Speaker 3>us direct and then if there's anything based in Sydney,

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<v Speaker 3>I usually personally do it myself along with other colleagues.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I can also service interstates, so if the

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<v Speaker 3>matter crosses the border, even internationally.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, do you feel like super secret?

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<v Speaker 3>Like do you feel secret spy?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Do you get secret spy vibes?

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<v Speaker 3>I do sometimes. I even got the leather jacket, the

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<v Speaker 3>trench coats my house to match when it's appropriate. This

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<v Speaker 3>vibes on.

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<v Speaker 1>And did you do any sort of training or yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Most people X coppers. So I'm not an ex cop.

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<v Speaker 3>So you've got to do like a cert three and

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<v Speaker 3>investigative services through tape and you got to get certificate

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<v Speaker 3>there is Yeah, so you can do it in like

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<v Speaker 3>six weeks if you wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>To okay, summer holidays, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, and then you have to a new stuffals, then

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to apply to a new stuff. I was

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<v Speaker 3>police force for a license, a security license.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so you need a license? You do?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so you can't. I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't just walk out and be like god, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a private investigator, which you know a lot of thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>year olds on Twitter think they're private investigators.

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<v Speaker 1>These days.

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<v Speaker 3>Social media is talking Oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so what does the day to day look like

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<v Speaker 2>for you? Like walk me through, you know, wake up?

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<v Speaker 2>You know you have to dodge a sniper that's been

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<v Speaker 2>hanging out your house through a little bit and then

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<v Speaker 2>you go and like catch a criminal.

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<v Speaker 1>Like how's it work?

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<v Speaker 3>So, for example, you could have someone come to you

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<v Speaker 3>for for example, infidelity, There's many things I could do

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<v Speaker 3>and suggest for that. It's do you want me to

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<v Speaker 3>follow them to on Friday night to see you say,

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<v Speaker 3>if it's a male going out with colleagues and seeing

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<v Speaker 3>if they got to know good, I'll go clubbing with

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<v Speaker 3>them and.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, you have to do secret photos.

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<v Speaker 3>I do. So we have a lot of little micro

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<v Speaker 3>cameras that we can hold on person that help out.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a bit hard with the lighting in the club

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<v Speaker 3>obviously because it's dark, but when you get really close

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<v Speaker 3>to them it comes out clear.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>So, yes, you could follow them, But what are the

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<v Speaker 2>other kind of options in the world of infidelity.

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<v Speaker 3>The unique option that I've provided in the past is

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like a honey trap, where for example, if

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<v Speaker 3>your if you've got a wife or husband, boyfriend, girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 3>and you want to test the fidelity, you would come

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<v Speaker 3>to me and then I could either want to approach

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<v Speaker 3>them online to poses a hot man or woman and

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<v Speaker 3>then try flirt with them and then send you the screenshots,

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<v Speaker 3>or I could basically, you know your husband's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be here at a certain point of time, I would

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<v Speaker 3>send a friend of mine that's really attractive and that

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<v Speaker 3>you know that your husband will like to hit on him.

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<v Speaker 3>Get the number. And now I've got that number, and

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<v Speaker 3>then I'll start flirting and I'll set up a date,

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<v Speaker 3>get them on a date, and then I'll be in

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<v Speaker 3>a surveillance vehicle getting them on that date. Oh yeah, wow, what.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a couple questions coming from that. First of all, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>can you give me a pickup line? If you were

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<v Speaker 2>going to try to pick me up in a honey trap?

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<v Speaker 3>A pickup line?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, trying to pick me up? Go on, I'm really easy.

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<v Speaker 3>I really like your hair. Oh thank you, He's stunning.

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<v Speaker 3>Think I love it the way it just sits there

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<v Speaker 3>and it's perfect. Can I have your number?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you can on a one sec I already have

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<v Speaker 3>it already.

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<v Speaker 2>You might not be able to answer this topic, but

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<v Speaker 2>what type of clients are the ones that come to

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<v Speaker 2>you in these situations where they're like, can you suss

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<v Speaker 2>this out?

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<v Speaker 3>So, if you're talking about infidelity, I would say it's

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<v Speaker 3>a fifty to fifty split between men and woman.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yes, what's the rate of like they were correct

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<v Speaker 2>and like they are being a bit naughty.

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<v Speaker 3>More so that the person's playing up than not. So

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<v Speaker 3>Usually the person has that kind of instinct or in

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<v Speaker 3>the back of the mind that they're not being honest

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<v Speaker 3>in that relationship, and then we end up finding that

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<v Speaker 3>they've done something.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that mean you've kind of been the result of

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<v Speaker 2>like a couple of breakups?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, Oh my goodness, you're like the grim Reaper for couples.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you get more satisfaction when you catch them out

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<v Speaker 2>or more satisfaction when you go, look, they're actually fine,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all in your head, babe, But also pay the bill.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll say, even split like it's I get pretty satisfied

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<v Speaker 3>when I catch them doing things over and over and

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<v Speaker 3>over again, and sometimes the wife or husband will just

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<v Speaker 3>continue to still stay with them and get like this

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<v Speaker 3>backlog of evidence, like on a continual basis of multiple

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<v Speaker 3>times that they've been cheating the whole in the pocket

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<v Speaker 3>and they won't sometimes even break up. Then I also

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<v Speaker 3>get the satisfaction where you know he's actually behaved, he's

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<v Speaker 3>only drinking with mates and I'll send like a photo,

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<v Speaker 3>my current photo, because I'll be there drinking, saying a

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<v Speaker 3>pub at another table, watching them. Nothing happens, and then

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<v Speaker 3>I get permission and I just leave.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's so interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>What are your tips for blending in in a crowd

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<v Speaker 2>in a situation like that? Because I personally struggle. I

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<v Speaker 2>think I would have a bit of an issue if

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<v Speaker 2>I to walk in and people are like just here,

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<v Speaker 2>just waiting for a mate. Ye.

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<v Speaker 3>Basically a couple of tips. So the person can't be

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<v Speaker 3>too attractive or too ugly. I know how direct that is.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you're too attractive, like too stunning, you wear

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<v Speaker 3>something like, for example, you look absolutely stunning, you'd be

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<v Speaker 3>noticeable straight away. If you're underdressed or you're dress poorly,

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<v Speaker 3>people will notice that that you're not hygienic and things like.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it going to be the medium. You can't have brand,

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<v Speaker 3>so you can't be hanging off that Gucci bag because

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<v Speaker 3>people remember those Gucci bags. So if you keep following them,

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<v Speaker 3>they'll remember you for that Gucci bag. To get away,

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<v Speaker 3>you're playing jeans, you're like my jumper today. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>know like what brand it is, unless, of course, you've

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<v Speaker 3>got the same jumper. Everything has to be unbranded.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you secretly on a job now? Maybe are you

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<v Speaker 2>actually doing two Birds on stone? That's right, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>just looking around the iHeart studios going does that mean

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<v Speaker 2>you have to have like a secret suitcase of different outfits?

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<v Speaker 2>And just because they might walk into a high roll

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<v Speaker 2>La bar and you're like, oh, I'm in mi kmart.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, well it's actually my boot. The bit of

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<v Speaker 3>my car has that Oh there you go. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>gotta love it because you follow them all around city,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't know where they're going or through traffic, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's gonna sometimes change last minute.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>So a lot of it is training obviously, but certain

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<v Speaker 2>private investigations kind of they're better at different things.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. So you've got like surveillance specialists that just basically

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<v Speaker 3>for the whole job. They're just do surveillance on foot,

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<v Speaker 3>in car static. So they're usually the guys or there's

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of ladies that just want to sit in

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<v Speaker 3>a car all day. You got those. I'm a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of a mixture. So ideal like the in depth deep

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<v Speaker 3>web dives and the background checks on people, get leverage

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<v Speaker 3>on them, so my clients can use that information to

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<v Speaker 3>make a decision, for example, but they're also that combine

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<v Speaker 3>that with surveillance. So for example, ify helping a client

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<v Speaker 3>to then sue someone, I make sure they have assets first,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I tail them to figure out, yes, they

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<v Speaker 3>live there, and he's all their assets, he's their horses,

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<v Speaker 3>his house, and he's them coming out the front. So

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<v Speaker 3>kind of mix it up. Yeah, I've done survellans, but

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<v Speaker 3>they're like on acreage and I've got this long camera

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm here in my car and there's a horse.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, well, that's that's an asset.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>Is?

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<v Speaker 1>It is? Wow?

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<v Speaker 2>What what is the cost of a job, Like what

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<v Speaker 2>is there a ballpark? Because I guess some of these

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<v Speaker 2>things may only take Is it an hourly thing?

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<v Speaker 3>Like sometimes it's hourly. We can package it depending on

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<v Speaker 3>how quick it is. Like if you're trying to find someone,

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to be hourly. In it's labor intensive, so

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<v Speaker 3>you're looking at you know, list couple thousand. But if

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<v Speaker 3>you're doing something that's like major scam like Ponzi scheme,

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<v Speaker 3>and this person's taken off with like at least a

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<v Speaker 3>million dollars and you're looking, you know, tens of thousands

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<v Speaker 3>of dollars for us to try and figure out whether gorn.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess some people may come to you and be like,

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<v Speaker 2>I need you to chase this person because they owe

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<v Speaker 2>me five thousand dollars, and you go, love, it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to cost you another five thousand get you no?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Do you yeah? Do you have to go like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, just don't bother.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's absolutely, it's not economically viable in this case.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good, that's good, weird, and I like that. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>riunning that down. Actually economically viable. I only use that

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<v Speaker 2>next time someone wants to booked me for a gig.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, it's not economically viable for you. Heaven.

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<v Speaker 2>Now people come to you, they go, here's my situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Are there any jobs that you've had to knock back

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<v Speaker 2>and say, look, I can't handle that for you. That's

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<v Speaker 2>that's beyond.

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<v Speaker 3>There's one in particular. I don't know if this is

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<v Speaker 3>too heavy, but it was getting a pedophile ring and

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't want to touch on it because I have

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<v Speaker 3>a daughter that was the same age of the children

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<v Speaker 3>that they pick up and I was able to work

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<v Speaker 3>out that this pedophile ring was so sophisticated, involved nurses, doctors,

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<v Speaker 3>all the educated people, and it was at least fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>against me one and I was like, it's not worth

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<v Speaker 3>me even starting. Yeah, so I didn't bother.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy and like can the work be dangerous?

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<v Speaker 3>It has been confronting, especially when I confront people like

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<v Speaker 3>I've located them, they've disappeared because they've stolen a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of money or done scams or Ponzi schemes, and then

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<v Speaker 3>I've traced them down and then had to say serve documents,

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<v Speaker 3>will give them notice that we're about to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the client, the liquidors are going to freeze their assets

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<v Speaker 3>and things, and I'm at their front door when they

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<v Speaker 3>were in hiding, Like they get very aggressive. They don't

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<v Speaker 3>like that at all. So I've had a couple of threats.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's it like?

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<v Speaker 2>Because obviously people are like, oh, the police have got

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<v Speaker 2>the power. How do people respond to you if you

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<v Speaker 2>ever have to confront them or anything, and they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>here are you? Where's your little badge thing?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's just about presence. So it's about holding

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<v Speaker 3>your own when you go to them. And because you

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<v Speaker 3>have that knowledge of the of the matter, whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 3>when you start to communicate that to them, they know

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<v Speaker 3>what you're immediately talking about. Else some of them just

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<v Speaker 3>slammed it on in the face. Or I've had threats

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<v Speaker 3>of releasing German shepherds, I had someone chase me. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just I've had food thrown at me. Just go to

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<v Speaker 3>do we got to do?

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<v Speaker 2>And what makes you keep going back? Doesn't sound very fun?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I find it fun because I have the

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<v Speaker 3>thrill of the chase. So I like chasing people or

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<v Speaker 3>chasing people and they don't know I'm actually there, so

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<v Speaker 3>it kind of gives me a bit of adrenaline kick. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so I like that aspect.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Random question. Are you good at escape rooms?

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<v Speaker 3>I have been in the past. I haven't done one

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<v Speaker 3>for quite a while since COVID, but I am pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like a bit of a.

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<v Speaker 2>Good practice good practice gods for the Christmas part this year,

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<v Speaker 2>a go to escape rooms?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, escape rooms camera guys.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you have any particular, like interesting case stories

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<v Speaker 2>you can tell us that like come to mind? I

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<v Speaker 2>know you've touched on a few, but is there anything

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<v Speaker 2>you know anything juicy or scandals are shocking.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a couple of people who have investigated with have

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<v Speaker 3>had like a double life where you know, you have

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<v Speaker 3>the man with the he has a wife, she has

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<v Speaker 3>no idea, and then when I go hunt down him

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<v Speaker 3>because he's basically a professional scam artist, the penny drops

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<v Speaker 3>for her that he's, well, why does he have another

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<v Speaker 3>least property in an hour down the road and can't

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<v Speaker 3>come home during the week because he has to travel

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<v Speaker 3>so far when it's less than an hour and he

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<v Speaker 3>realizes that the other personal lease is actually his mistress.

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<v Speaker 3>Things like that that the penny actually drops, or there's

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of high profile people obviously can't mention names

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<v Speaker 3>that I've investigated that I'm on Telly currently Steel.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh copy me. I've been taken off for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, conflict of interest, conflict of interest. A lot of

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<v Speaker 3>scams I did on this morning, which was a Nigerian scam.

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<v Speaker 3>You got your rowment scams with people unfortunately like one

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<v Speaker 3>of them I worked on. He was a farmer. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>Paul Bugger was in love with this woman on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh God, but the whole persona was in uh stolen

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<v Speaker 3>identity of a woman he was actually based in Sydney.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I hate that. I hate that. Yeah, rude. Now

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<v Speaker 1>have you also done missing person cases?

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<v Speaker 3>I've done things like find my family, or this person's

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<v Speaker 3>missing in terms of I haven't seen it for like

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<v Speaker 3>twenty years, and she's my best friend. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what's happened to us. She's literally disappeared, whole family I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. And then we track her down and changed

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<v Speaker 3>name or she's passed away. Have reunited a couple families

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<v Speaker 3>like mother and daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, see this all it's not all about cheating scandalous people.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's not. It's got some nice, nice soft stories

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes where you reallynite family and they want to actually

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<v Speaker 3>spend time together. Yeah, so it's not always doom and gloom.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have your phone on you?

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<v Speaker 3>I do?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I'm going to give you thirty seconds. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to put you to the test and see what

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<v Speaker 2>you can find on me. All right, I want dirt,

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<v Speaker 2>I want news or any information you can find about me.

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<v Speaker 1>You got it?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>All right?

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<v Speaker 2>Time studs now, okay, So maybe she might be able

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<v Speaker 2>to find that I've got an overdue library book. I

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<v Speaker 2>have a library cards and I moved house, so I

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<v Speaker 2>hope she doesn't find that, but also she might be

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<v Speaker 2>able to find that I still have a gym membership

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<v Speaker 2>and I haven't been in five years.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen eyes. Oh this is interesting, speed reader,

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<v Speaker 1>speed Reader.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm got scanless though, because we've had sidekicks and Parmiss

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<v Speaker 2>and voodoo people.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is scary, all right? Four three two.

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<v Speaker 2>One okay, okay, serve me up. If you found about

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<v Speaker 2>little Arts, simone.

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<v Speaker 3>I have found out that used to be known as

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<v Speaker 3>count Jacular.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, yes, how embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 2>That was my first track name in high school because

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I was really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Oh, that's really embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 3>You're a bit of an artsy farts. So you did

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<v Speaker 3>very well in school, so you got like a study

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<v Speaker 3>score of about forty six in studio.

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<v Speaker 1>Arts, I did pretty well. Yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 3>The vehicle you also drive along with myself is a

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty two tier to crawler.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, who's been looking at my car? Or

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<v Speaker 2>did you look up what?

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<v Speaker 3>But you're a terrible cook though. That's disappointing.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I had enough. I've had enough.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm cutting it off there before you find out anything

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<v Speaker 2>else you forget my name, oh, never existed.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, it turns out that Amy isn't a wanted fella.

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<v Speaker 2>No, she is a professional stalker oh, I mean private investigator. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>after finding out that she's all about double lives, I

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<v Speaker 2>think I could be too. You've been listening to an

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