1 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Tell you who we should talk to. Russell Crowe. He's 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: got the Garden Party. 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: He's just on a tour of Australia and also his 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: latest album is called The Gentleman Barbers, So let's talk 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 2: about that morning, Russell bonny Man. So the band has 6 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: been in the works for a while. 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 3: As you know, I've been performing with bands for the 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 3: last four decades or so. 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: This is the sort of next iteration. 10 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 3: But yeah, indoor Garden Party seeds from a night in 11 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 3: two thousand and nine at a pub just outside London, 12 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 3: a pub owned by the chat show host Michael Parkinson. 13 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 3: Just so happened to be all these different musician friends 14 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 3: of mine were in England at that time, so we 15 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 3: all brought them together in one place, including like the 16 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 3: entire cast of Master and Commander and things like that, 17 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 3: and they all got up and sang a song together 18 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: as shipmates, you know. So it was just an interesting 19 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,959 Speaker 3: thing about, you know, having a core band but then 20 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 3: bringing in guests, and it's sort of it's been something 21 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 3: we've been doing reg you leave, but not in any 22 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 3: sort of particular schedule. This next album at will work 23 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 3: at the moment, pros and cons, I'll come out this year. 24 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: That's more rootsy, you know, it's back into the bar again. 25 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 3: You know. 26 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: Well, the new single I thought I had almost a 27 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: feel of New Orleans touched to it. 28 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: There's a lot of gospel in there and R and 29 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 3: B and you know, just you're right, you know, that 30 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 3: dirty New Orleans kind of jazz sound, but sort of 31 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 3: taken into a sort of a darker place. 32 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: I suppose. 33 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: When it comes to songwriting, do you ever feel like 34 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: you have to compromise in order to get commercial success 35 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: or even to just get played on the radio. 36 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 3: No, no, not at all. And it's pure form. The 37 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 3: greatest pop song is the greatest song. That's not a 38 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 3: bad thing to aim for. Respecting the fact that I 39 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 3: don't give a toss if it sells one copy or whatever. 40 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 3: I'm not pursuing the perfect pop song on behalf of 41 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 3: a extet of corporate responsibilities. 42 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 2: Well that's a great place to be though, too. 43 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: You know, that's right when my songwriting stuff. 44 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: At the moment, I'm backtracking over a whole bunch of 45 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 3: idea years that I almost completed and then put aside. 46 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: You know, I heard a great story the other day 47 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: about Tom Waits. He was driving in his car and 48 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: he had this fantastic idea for a song that came 49 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: to him from the universe, which is essentially where a 50 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 2: lot of the great ideas come from. And he said, no, no, 51 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 2: not now, I'm driving, come back to me later. 52 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: You know. 53 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: Does that happen with you? 54 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: Do you suddenly get this last night? 55 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 3: Had Last night I was in bed, I absolutely exhaust 56 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 3: and just as I was drifting off, this song that 57 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 3: I've been talking about for days started coming to me, 58 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 3: and I was like, I do really, but I just 59 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 3: didn't have the juice to get up and write it down. Yeah, 60 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 3: I'm just hoping later on today that the title of 61 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: it will come back to me. 62 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: Oh, I tell you, I hate that. Why don't write 63 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: it down there? 64 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: And then it's gone? I mean, never get the thing back, 65 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: you know. 66 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 3: You know, I had that type of conversation with Sting, 67 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 3: you know, and I was asking him, you know, if 68 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 3: you're in the middle of writing, you know the stuff 69 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 3: he was doing for that instead of medieval period he 70 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 3: was going through right now, And in the middle of 71 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 3: that he wrote that song Hung my Head, which is 72 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 3: basically it comes from Western thematic that he put it 73 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 3: in a different time signature. 74 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: When he did it, but then later on Johnny Cash. 75 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 3: You're the pre eminent version of the song, and I 76 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 3: was knowing, how can you be, you know, your head 77 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 3: in the middle of lutes and all of this sort 78 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 3: of stuff, and then that thing pops out and he 79 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 3: just said something funny. 80 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: He just said listen. 81 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 3: To be totally honest, I have no idea where the 82 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 3: songs come from. But all I do know is the 83 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: more times I sit and sort of asked for them, 84 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: the more songs that have come, you know. 85 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: And even if I'm in the middle of writing something, I. 86 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 3: Realized, Junius, this is shit, you know, because it might 87 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 3: lead me somewhere else. And that's what I say before 88 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 3: about songs that we've you know, from Convenience, we've just 89 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: pushed aside. I know that there's some good stuff there. 90 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 3: I've just got to go back and work out why 91 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: it didn't quite make the mark this time around. 92 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: Well, I'm looking forward to hearing the new album from 93 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: the band. 94 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: You've got to talk to you, Russell. Thanks a lot, mate. 95 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: Just look at yourself in