1 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to the sit down. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: I'm Viv Christy, managing editor of Australian Tennis magazine, and. 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 3: I'm Brief Stewart. 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 4: I'm from the AO Show. 5 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 3: So Viv, tell me you're sitting down with Jaslyin Shewitt 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 3: Shahadi this week. 7 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 4: Tell me why and a little bit about her. 8 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: Jacelin has worn so many hats in tennis, from professional 9 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 2: playing Korea to a high performance coach, tournament director and 10 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: many roles in between, and now she is the director 11 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: of player Relations at the WTA Tour. 12 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 3: Amazing. 13 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's very passionate about giving back to the sport 14 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 2: and has some great insights for us. 15 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 5: Jacelyin Hewitt Shahiti, thank you very much for joining us 16 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 5: on the sit Down in studio today. 17 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: How are you? 18 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 4: I'm great. Thanks. 19 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 6: No, it's been a nice trip down to Melbourne. Got 20 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 6: some sunshine out here finally, so now it's always nice 21 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 6: to come down to Melbourne and to the Tennis center here. 22 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: I thought it'd be great if you could start from 23 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: the very beginning, Relly and talk to us about how 24 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: you first got connected into tennis. 25 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 6: Yes, that was a very long time ago, so mum 26 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 6: and dad after their sporting careers had finished. I'd played 27 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 6: s ANFL in South Australia in Adelaide and came over 28 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 6: here to Victoria and was in the VFL for a 29 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 6: couple of years with Richmond. They took up playing tennis 30 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 6: socially back in Adelaide at Seaside Tennis Club. So yeah, 31 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 6: having an older brother having a court in the backyard, 32 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 6: Mum and dad played socially, so basically started with a 33 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 6: racket in the hand from a very young age, was 34 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 6: always around the courts. Had some really great family memories 35 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 6: about being at the Seaside Tennis Club every Saturday for 36 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 6: basically morning camp and then afternoon comp. So that's pretty 37 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 6: much where it all started. And then yeah, was blessed 38 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 6: to go as far as I did playing so top 39 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 6: three hundred, had some really good experiences traveling the world. 40 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 6: Love that part of it. It's always positive when you 41 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 6: get to take get some extra time off school and 42 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 6: get to travel the world as well. 43 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 4: So, yeah, we had had. 44 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 6: A good career playing, got to three hundred, but then yeah, 45 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 6: unfortunately broke my hand and then yeah, life takes different pathways. 46 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 5: I don't know your dad have played for Richmond. Actually 47 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 5: I have Varick for Richmond. So love that. 48 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 2: You obviously do come from a very sporting family, as 49 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: you say, Were there ever any other sports that competed 50 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: for your attention? 51 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: What did you most love about tennis? 52 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? 53 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 6: Growing up, I still remember there was a night after 54 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 6: basketball training that was just done to get too much. 55 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 4: So I used to play basketball. Really enjoyed that. 56 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 6: We used to do athletics as well on a Friday night. 57 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 6: But then, yeah, tennis started to take over by the 58 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 6: age of twelve thirteen, started going on some international trips 59 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 6: with Tennis Australia back in the day. So yeah, basically 60 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 6: had to make a choice, and this is where trying 61 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 6: to get the right amount of hours and training in. 62 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 6: If you're going to pick one sport to make your 63 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 6: profession or that's your goal, we kind of got to 64 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 6: go one hundred percent in. So yeah, it was a 65 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 6: tough decision back in the day, and I loved playing basketball, 66 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 6: but yeah, it was probably a little bit better at tennis. 67 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 6: Had a great coach in Peter Smith back in Adelaide, 68 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 6: had a really great support team there. Mum and Dad 69 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 6: were always behind us, Slayton and myself even still now, 70 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,839 Speaker 6: they're so supportive in our careers. So it's yeah, it's 71 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 6: been a fantastic journey. 72 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: You say it was a tough choice, but it must 73 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: have felt like the right choice in the end. As 74 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: you say you had a pro career, I think that 75 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: went from say nineteen ninety nine to about two thousand 76 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: and five. 77 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: What are your favorite memories from that time. 78 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 6: I'm not sure that the pro career was probably some 79 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 6: of the highlights. I think it's the juniors growing up 80 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 6: and a lot of the world junior teams that we 81 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 6: went on on the tours that we went on. I 82 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 6: was in the Australian Institute a sport with Craig Morris 83 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 6: as a coach and we had a fantastic team. Then 84 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 6: Melissa Dow, Sam Stoza, Alisha Mullik or all some of 85 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 6: the players coming through. 86 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 4: So I think it's the friendships. 87 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 6: And the journeys that you go on, especially traveling back 88 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 6: then we went away for eight, nine, ten weeks in 89 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 6: a row with your mates, so we never came home 90 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 6: during that block, and I think that built our resilience. 91 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 6: Up to when I was older, I'd spend six months 92 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 6: of the year away basically leave as soon as the 93 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 6: Aussie summer was done, they have a couple of pro 94 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 6: tours then in going into April, similar schedule to what's 95 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 6: here in Australia now, and then you're in Europe until 96 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 6: maybe October November, and then you come back. So I 97 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 6: think those longer tours when we were juniors actually assisted 98 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 6: us build our resilience and passion for the game, and 99 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 6: then yeah, was able to build the career off that. 100 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 5: In preparing for this interview, I looked at your Instagram 101 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 5: account and there was this really nice photo of you 102 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 5: with Elka Cleisters, and I just I have always I 103 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 5: was wondering what that experience is like because you reference 104 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 5: late and obviously two time major champion, world number one, 105 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 5: as a sibling of a very famous tennis player. What 106 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 5: is that experience like? Because there are so many tennis 107 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 5: players like that. I've just finished reading Naomi Osaka's biography 108 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 5: and there's a chapter dedicated to Mari Osaka, and there's 109 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 5: Marko Jokovic and so many like what was that like 110 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 5: for you? Because your careers overlapped. 111 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, I always find that question interesting because I actually 112 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 6: don't know anything else. So I've always grown up. Layton 113 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 6: was always doing well, when he was fourteen fifteen, sixteen 114 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 6: on international tours, So when I started doing the same tours, 115 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 6: that was exciting. When he was fifteen, he then qualified 116 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 6: for the Yusie Open when he was sixteen, he one Adelaide, 117 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 6: So coming from being thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, when he's doing 118 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 6: all these things, it's yeah, I really don't know much else, 119 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 6: but the opportunities that did provide me were fantastic. So yeah, 120 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 6: traveling with Elka who was in a similar position with me, 121 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 6: with her sister Kim, understanding the pressures and traveling, and. 122 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 4: More of the spotlight. 123 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 6: Probably being on us as we're trying to make our 124 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 6: way through the pro tour events, so not necessarily being 125 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 6: on the top tour there, but still working our own 126 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 6: pathways out. But looking back at it, it is again 127 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 6: going back to those relationships in tennis, having lateon been 128 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 6: a strong part of the Davis Cup team, working with 129 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 6: Nukin Roachi and that. 130 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 4: Whole family environment. 131 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 6: When I started working for Tennis Australia, I had one 132 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 6: of the toughest years as the AIS Pro Tour coach 133 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 6: on the road for about forty six weeks of the 134 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 6: year and just yeah, but I had sand and Stolly, 135 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 6: also Milo Bradley there, but Sandon I was always around 136 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 6: from Davis Cup days and he was a great mentor 137 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 6: for me on the road on during that period of time. 138 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 6: So it's definitely a second family there within the tennis. 139 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 5: Community, yeah, for sure. And you also alluded as well 140 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 5: to your playing career ending with a broken hand. That's 141 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 5: like a pretty horrific injury. And I don't actually think 142 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 5: I knew that part of your story very well and like, yeah, 143 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 5: what was that like to conf like how did that happen? 144 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 5: What was that like to confront and then making that decision, Yeah, 145 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 5: I can't play pro anymore because this is this is 146 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 5: really tough to overcome. 147 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 148 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 6: So I was middle Sunday of Ozzie Open. Layton was 149 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 6: still in I was going out with my ex boyfriend 150 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 6: Jokim Johansson, Peter Luchak, and I had just lost mixed 151 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 6: doubles to the Black Brother and Sisters there Pimpim lost 152 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 6: to Agacy after serving a massive amount of aces and 153 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 6: then yeah, next minute, I've broken my hand and ended 154 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 6: up in hospital booked for surgery the couple days later. 155 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 6: So all bands didged up. I still remember being on 156 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 6: center court watching Layton's matches for a couple of the 157 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 6: second week of the AO there. But yeah, a Playton 158 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 6: five screws in. I got told within six weeks I 159 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 6: should be back out on the court. Unfortunately that didn't happen, 160 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 6: and just kept playing through pain. It was kind of 161 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 6: like this vibration sensation when I was making impact with 162 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 6: the ball. So six months later I had the Playton 163 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 6: screws taken out and then tried it a little bit 164 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 6: again after that, but it just was never the same. 165 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 6: It was affected by heat and cool and just the 166 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 6: nerves and things were a bit a bit out of whax. 167 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 6: So but yeah, I believe everything happens for a reason, 168 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 6: and it was at that point that, yeah, my next 169 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 6: career pathway in tennis began. 170 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: But you have worn a lot of hats in tennis. 171 00:08:53,320 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: You've been pro player, high performance coach, personal trainer, massage therapists. 172 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: Tournament. 173 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 2: Player welfare, broadcasting, You've worked in the women and girls space, 174 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: and now player relations. Is there any one area that 175 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 2: stands out for you the. 176 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 4: Mist No, I think it's all. 177 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 6: It's all played a massive component into where I am today. 178 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 6: So it's all contributed to probably each area in each 179 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 6: stage of my own development building myself up to be 180 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 6: a business woman, was what was the next thing or 181 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 6: what was the next area that I could then evolve 182 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 6: or improve my current place of work. 183 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 4: So within my initial role. 184 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 6: In Adelaide, I got the role as the high performance 185 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 6: strength conditioning coach, then having to upskill myself as a 186 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 6: tennis coach with Rowan Fisher down there, so that then 187 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 6: built in the and was able to get the manager 188 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 6: role in Sydney with Sandon. 189 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 4: Was that two thousand and nine. 190 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 6: So it's everything seems to evolve and keep building, and 191 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 6: it was probably my passion to actually give back and continue. 192 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 4: To improve. 193 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 6: What services or offerings were out for me then as 194 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 6: a player and then also as a coach, And that's 195 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 6: one thing I'm really excited about the role that I'm 196 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 6: in now with the WTA and also the coach Inclusion 197 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 6: program that we've launched and partnered with Tennis Australia for. 198 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 2: Did you ever imagine that tennis would open so many 199 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 2: doors for you? 200 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 6: No, to be honest, when I stopped playing, I didn't 201 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 6: pick up a racket for twelve months, so I didn't 202 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 6: really want much to do with the sport. I wanted 203 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 6: to create my own pathway within that. But yeah, after 204 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 6: twelve months, I felt I had some really good people 205 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 6: that gave back to me in being really good hitters 206 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 6: for me, Louise Stacey and Luke Smith, Brett Smith back 207 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 6: in the day in Adelaide and that's where I just 208 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 6: walked into tennis to SA and I said, if you 209 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 6: need a hitter, I'm more than happy to jump on court. 210 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 4: They go, what have you done? 211 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 6: And then my strength and conditioning background was able to 212 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 6: open up a door there and the rest is pretty 213 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 6: much history. 214 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: So fantastic. 215 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, that is fantastic and the progression that you've gone 216 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 5: into now which I find interesting. So working for the WTA, 217 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 5: your previous roles have all been with like TA or 218 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 5: SA in New South Wales. So what's it like shifting 219 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 5: to more of an international tennis lens than just an 220 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 5: Aussie tennis lens. 221 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 222 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 6: Probably working with the National Academy in New South Wales, 223 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 6: we did have a strong focus on being an international 224 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 6: level of player and what we wanted that to look like, 225 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 6: and we've been able to reap the rewards of that 226 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 6: with all the New South Wales guys in the top 227 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 6: of the top one hundred now, which has been fantastic. 228 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 6: So we always had an international focus or best of 229 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 6: practice focus for what we wanted to do. 230 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 2: So. 231 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 4: It's nice for me. 232 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 6: It's probably more so the international travel and that level 233 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 6: of tournament versus necessarily what that focus of the international 234 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 6: level was. 235 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 5: And so yeah, speaking of that, you were telling us 236 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 5: before we started that it's mainly based. You're based in Sydney, 237 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 5: mainly in Australia, but there is a big travel component, 238 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 5: so yeah, what is the what will you be doing 239 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 5: in play relations at the WTA, Yes. 240 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 6: So traveling about three months of the year to various tournaments. 241 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 6: Player relations has a large broad scope from making sure 242 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,599 Speaker 6: that the players are well looked after. The WTA was 243 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 6: actually created by the players for the players, So we 244 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 6: have a lot of player Council meetings and feedback that 245 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 6: we receive from the players that we then look to 246 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 6: execute to continue to improve what the tour looks like 247 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 6: for them. 248 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 4: So that varies. 249 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 6: Every day is different, depends on what the demands is, 250 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 6: depends on the amount of staff that we can have 251 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 6: there on site. Kind of got to be a jack 252 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 6: of all trades. 253 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 4: You might be. 254 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 6: Working with marketing and media one day, you might be 255 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 6: then working with the coaches another day. So part of 256 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 6: my role is also the working with the coaches program, 257 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 6: so other than the accredited coaches, Yeah, trying to really 258 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 6: build on our female coaching network out there on the tour, 259 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 6: just because there are so many challenges and barriers for 260 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 6: females to get on the tour in the first place. 261 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 5: So yeah, well that follows into the next question perfectly. 262 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 5: So this WTA Coach Inclusion program you referred to before, 263 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 5: something obviously that is very important to you and you're 264 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 5: passionate about. So why is this and maybe you could 265 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 5: talk a little bit about what that program will bring. 266 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, so it probably for me I'm passionate about is 267 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 6: having a good role model, a mentor. When I was 268 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 6: coming up and having more females coaching and on the 269 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 6: tour as a high performance coach myself, it has been 270 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 6: a challenge raising two boys and being a player development coach, 271 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 6: so that is always a challenge. But this role, we 272 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 6: are providing great mentorship for the players sorry for the coaches, 273 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 6: where we will then partner the coaches up with pro 274 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 6: tour coaches that are already out there it's a great 275 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 6: opportunity for them to build their network, and that's one thing. 276 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 6: The main barrier that we find is a lot of 277 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 6: players will have a hitting partner that will organically grow 278 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 6: into that relationship and then have that next step. Unfortunately, 279 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 6: we don't necessarily see enough hitting partners out there being females. 280 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 6: So it's how do we then create that network and 281 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 6: environment for our female coaches to be in and around 282 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 6: and get their knowledge analytical skills. How they then relate 283 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 6: to the player, which is one thing we're finding is 284 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 6: very strong with a lot of the female players is 285 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 6: they're finding that female coaches are actually relating to them 286 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 6: a lot stronger. 287 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: Do you think that tennis is becoming somewhere that more 288 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 2: female coaches can thrive. 289 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 6: Definitely, But I think it also depends on the stage 290 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 6: of the coach's life and journey, and that was definitely 291 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 6: one challenge for myself, even staying in working for Tennis 292 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 6: Australia and being on court until late in the evenings 293 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,479 Speaker 6: and trying to come home and put your family and kids. 294 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 4: To sleep at nine o'clock at night. So I do 295 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 4: understand that the role. 296 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 6: Does have the demands on it, but it is a 297 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 6: very inclusive place to work. We do have This year, 298 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 6: we've got five female coaches are coaching top fifty players 299 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 6: in the world, whereas you look back a couple of 300 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 6: years we only had five female coaching coaches coaching top 301 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty players in the world. So that 302 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 6: top end and where we're wanting to see it. This 303 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 6: program has had some really great success. I've had about 304 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 6: twenty applicants come through the North American program. We've had 305 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 6: two seasons of that. They're just about to start their 306 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 6: third third round of the North American Swing. We've got 307 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 6: the Tennis Australia program that we'll launch in Hong Kong 308 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 6: at the two fifty, which will be fantastic, so working 309 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 6: with Nicole Pratt and Belinda Culinari there that will be 310 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 6: delivering this as part as the Women's and Girls Initiative 311 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 6: from Tennis Australia. So it's great to have that collaboration 312 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 6: and support with Tennis Australia and the WTA both coming together. 313 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 6: We've also got one kicking off early December in London 314 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 6: with the LTA as well, so looking to try to 315 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 6: cover the globe with this initiative. And yeah, we've got 316 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 6: a few coaches that have come through the program and 317 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 6: our Billy Jinkin Cup captains, so we've got some really 318 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 6: good success stories out there from it. 319 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: You mentioned earlier that women players respond really well to 320 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: having a women's coach. What are the differences between sort 321 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 2: of coaching a female player and a male player do 322 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 2: you think? 323 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 6: I don't think there's much differences for coaching a female 324 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 6: or a male. I probably think it's the way that 325 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 6: the coach handles the situation with the female player. I 326 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 6: think the emotions of what a female player and how 327 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 6: they handle their emotions there, and how that coach is 328 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 6: then reacting to that. 329 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 4: I think that can probably be. 330 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 6: Misunderstood in some relationships that it's just always put down, oh, 331 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 6: she's emotional or she's this, whereas some days the player 332 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 6: may just prefer to have a training day, may have 333 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 6: a day off, may have other areas. And I think 334 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 6: it's that understanding of the whole player themselves that probably 335 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 6: the female co which is more willing to dive deeper 336 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 6: into and yeah, emotions are scary and having those deep conversations, 337 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 6: especially for tennis coaches when you're not necessarily taught a 338 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 6: psych degree on how to handle those. I think it's 339 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 6: probably the empathy or the maternal instinct that females and 340 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 6: female coaches have that they can really connect better. Who 341 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,479 Speaker 6: are some of the coaches that you look back on 342 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 6: with great fondness or really motivated you or inspired you? 343 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 6: For me, I was always surrounded by male coaches. So 344 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 6: the one hitter that I did have and she was fantastic, 345 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 6: it was Louise Stacy. So she played OSIO Open Juniors, 346 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 6: tried on the tour for a little bit as well, 347 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 6: so as a female mentor, I did have her around. 348 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 6: But for me, probably my main two coaches that I 349 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 6: really clicked with were Peter Smith from a very young 350 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 6: age as well as Craig Morris during my years with AIS. 351 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 6: So I think both the way that those two went 352 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 6: about their coaching was actually understanding you and giving you 353 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 6: that full holistic development with how they're handling you and 354 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 6: how they're how. 355 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 4: You're learning as a person. 356 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 6: So yeah, I don't think it's it's black and white 357 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 6: that males can't can't do a really good job, but 358 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 6: I think that that connection between the player and the 359 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 6: coach really has to be strong, of. 360 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 5: Course, and I think we've seen that. Actually it was 361 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 5: Costchuk that's been talking about since she moved to working 362 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 5: with Sandra Zanievska. Yes, exactly what you said about just 363 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 5: having those conversations and relating. Just Sandra gets her in 364 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 5: a way that maybe a male coach didn't, and not 365 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 5: that the male coaches were bad, it's just a different relationship. 366 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 5: But she's also having her career best year, so you know, 367 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 5: maybe that works for her so. 368 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 6: Exactly, And that's that's one thing that Marta. Marta and 369 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 6: Sandra have been fantastic within this program. So when we've 370 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 6: had the coaches in the fine stages of the program, 371 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 6: they will partner up with a touring coach and we've 372 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 6: had some of our coaches partner with Sandra and then 373 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 6: been privileged to have some insights from Martyr as well. 374 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:14,479 Speaker 6: And that's definitely one thing that was spoken very openly about, 375 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 6: is that relationship and understanding of the athlete. 376 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 5: Now, if you've asked you about which coaches you enjoyed 377 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 5: working with, we also know that you worked with players, 378 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 5: and you alluded to before a lot of the players 379 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 5: coming through New South Wales have gone on to great things. 380 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 5: Who were some of your favorite players to guide and 381 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 5: coach and some of those great relationships you've had. 382 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, probably my main strongest relationship would have been with 383 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 6: Gabby DESILVERFK. So she's around four hundred now in the 384 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 6: world WTA had some injuries up and down the last 385 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 6: couple of years, but yeah, the last six months really 386 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 6: starting to step it up. So working with her day in, 387 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 6: day out, the commitment from the family, it is that 388 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,479 Speaker 6: whole holistic relationship that you build with the family because 389 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 6: there's they're trusting so much of you as a coach, 390 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 6: the amount of our that you're with their son or daughter. 391 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 6: But yeah, working with Gabby has been very rewarding for 392 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 6: me and to see where she's still continuing to go. 393 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 6: Also had some great trips with Olivia Gadeki and Annlie 394 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 6: Paulus and Tina Smith. So yeah, it's been fantastic to 395 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 6: see how it lives done in the last. 396 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 5: Time the woman of the hour, isn't she exactly. 397 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 6: So no, so proud of her to see where she 398 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 6: is now, so taking some time off to reset herself 399 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 6: and now watching her sore is just fantastic to see. 400 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 5: Now. I guess you stayed so connected with the game 401 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 5: even since you stopped playing yourself, which was two thousand 402 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 5: and five, and in that time since then, how do 403 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 5: you see women's tennis having kind of progressed? I guess 404 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 5: we're in this we're in an ear and now A 405 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 5: lot of people we talk to say like, it's never 406 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 5: been more It's never been more physical and powerful. There 407 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 5: is an incredible depth in the sp that maybe we've 408 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 5: never seen before. We've got some players emerging that like 409 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 5: Eager and Arena, they've won like five slams and three slams. Like, 410 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 5: what do you when you watch women's centers now and 411 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 5: you're actually involved with the tool, what do you think 412 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 5: of the current state of women's tennis. 413 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 6: It's very impressive where it's at the moment watching as 414 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 6: you touched on the physicality of the players is Yeah, 415 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 6: it's just improved in light years over the last a 416 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 6: decade or so, and I think it continues to the 417 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 6: amount of data and information that the coaches are getting 418 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 6: to continue to improve and tweak. I think the sports 419 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 6: science part of the coach and the whole team within 420 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 6: that environment, Yeah, it just continues to help getting that 421 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 6: player fitter, stronger. It's they're impressive athletes out there and 422 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 6: walking around at the tournaments. I actually in Australia, I 423 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 6: feel like at the shops I'm decent height. I actually 424 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 6: feel very short I'm walking around the tour, so these 425 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 6: women are like, yeah, another foot taller than me. 426 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 4: It's just ridiculous. 427 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 6: So no, definitely the physicality, but I think technology also 428 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 6: plays a massive part in that as well. 429 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 2: Sure you alluded to it earlier, but the current state 430 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 2: of Australian tennis, what do you make of it, and 431 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 2: especially the promising crop of young women. 432 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 6: Yes, I'm always proud to look at a program when 433 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 6: we had the National Academy in New South Wales and 434 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 6: what we were able to achieve there. We had a 435 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 6: great bunch of coaches there that were dedicated the culture 436 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:39,239 Speaker 6: blue wool tennis culture that we have installed, that was 437 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 6: led by Demon back in the day when he was around. 438 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 6: And yeah, watching all of those guys, I love giving 439 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 6: Layton a little bit of a nudge that most of 440 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 6: his Davis Cup team did come from New South Wales 441 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 6: and also that Cruz is a New South Wales boy 442 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 6: as well. So no, it's fantastic to see them do 443 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 6: so well. But it's not just the ones that are 444 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 6: out on the tour that were able to make that transition. 445 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 6: We've had so many great athletes and also people that 446 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 6: have come through the program. So the ones that have 447 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 6: gone to US College, unfortunately a handful or a lot 448 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 6: of those have actually stayed over in the college and coaching, 449 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 6: So we're missing out on that talent that was homegrown 450 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 6: and they've had a great opportunity. No hex fees go 451 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 6: to college, and then we've got some that have stayed there. 452 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 6: We've got others that are lawyers in Sydney. So it's 453 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 6: really impressive to see where where tennis can take you 454 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 6: and the opportunities that it can provide. And yes, we 455 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 6: definitely celebrate the guys that are up there on the top, 456 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 6: but there's a lot of different pathways and I think 457 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 6: probably my journey speaks to that. 458 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 459 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I just have to throw in one last question. 460 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 2: I'm sorry listening to you talk. The thing that strikes 461 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 2: me the mist as much as tennis is an individual sport, 462 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 2: it's been all about the team for you and everything 463 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 2: that comes back to So is that one of the 464 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 2: great fallacies of tennis that it's such an individual sport? 465 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 2: I think it definitely it is an individual sport. I 466 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 2: would say until you're about fourteen and under, and then 467 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: you start to really work out who your good mates 468 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 2: are on the court. You're able to travel the world, 469 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 2: you're all in the same position together. 470 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 4: You might be slumming it in hotel rooms. 471 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 6: I think you have a lot of story about the 472 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 6: Challenger guys and sleeping in cars and those sorts of things, 473 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 6: but they're the memories that also make it as well. 474 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 4: YEA, so it is. Yeah. 475 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 6: I always refer to it as a tennis family, and 476 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 6: I do strongly believe that that was probably instilled in 477 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 6: in myself through Leyton and through the Davis Cup team, 478 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 6: because the way that Nuke and Roach were always looking 479 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 6: after those boys, and the way that Layton looks after 480 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 6: that next generation with the Orange Boys, how he had 481 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 6: Hayden Jones and Charlie Camu the last few years Ringe 482 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 6: boys really building what that environment is and what that 483 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 6: culture is. And I think if that's led from the 484 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 6: top with the Davis Cup team and that always filtered 485 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 6: down with us. 486 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: Well, it's been great hearing about your experiences. Thank you 487 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: so much for joining us. 488 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 5: Worries, good luck with the next part of your career. 489 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 5: This new move into the WT and the women's coaching space. 490 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 5: It's awesome and look forward to seeing what happens there. 491 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 4: Thank you. Yes, it's very exciting. 492 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 6: I'm looking forward to Hong Kong and kicking it off 493 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 6: there before we get to wrap it up during the 494 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 6: Aussie Open. 495 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 3: So viv Jaslyn just finished on talking about how tennis 496 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 3: becomes such a family, such a community, and I think 497 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 3: that's one of the things I get out of the 498 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 3: most when I talk to tennis players, how much of 499 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 3: a community feel this sport can be. It's obvious that 500 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 3: her and Laden grew up in a very very sports 501 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 3: centric family, so I guess that that family aspect is 502 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 3: just ingrained in everything they do. 503 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting that she said that she has never 504 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 2: known anything else other than growing up as Leyton's sister, 505 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 2: which obviously created some pressure for her, but she used 506 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 2: it in a really positive way. And yeah, I love 507 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 2: the fact that she talks about how relationships are everything 508 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 2: to her in tennis. 509 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you'd need it to be. And Jaslyn said 510 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 3: that some of her main inspirations in terms of females 511 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 3: in Australia were Alisha Moley Can, Sam Stoza, We obviously 512 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 3: know that they're amazingly phenomenal athletes and players. So for Jaslyn, 513 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 3: what do you think the main kind of element of 514 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 3: their personalities is why she was so inspired by them? 515 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 2: I think it was what we were actually just talking about, 516 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 2: that they are real team players and she got to 517 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 2: spend time with them in a team environment. 518 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 4: I love it. 519 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 520 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 2: You know, she's passionate about giving opportunity opportunities to women 521 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: in tennis, so yeah, really positive person to have around. 522 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 3: Is this actually kind of like just the next step 523 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 3: for her and her career going into the WTA. 524 00:27:58,680 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 525 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And she talks a lot about how every role 526 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 2: she's taken something, She's learned something in every role and 527 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 2: taken it into the next role. One of her past 528 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 2: roles at Tennis Australia is in the women and girls' space, 529 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 2: and now she has such a great opportunity to further 530 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 2: influence that in a really positive way. 531 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 4: That's really exciting. 532 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely exciting. And we'll be back next week 533 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 2: with another episode of the sit Down. In the meantime, 534 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 2: you can tune into John and the Team on The 535 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 2: AO Show weekly on Thursday. Details for how to contact 536 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 2: us are in the show notes. Remember to subscribe, rate, and. 537 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 3: Review, and Matt will be back with you next week. 538 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,959 Speaker 2: How exciting is exciting, But thanks for joining us. 539 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 3: Brice, You're welcome anytime.