WEBVTT - #115 2024’s Most Unforgettable Guests

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<v Speaker 1>Kick it off.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you got for me?

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<v Speaker 3>This is the last time that these people will hear

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<v Speaker 3>us this year for twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wow, what a year.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been been a long year. No, it's gone quick,

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<v Speaker 2>is it? I think so?

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<v Speaker 1>Well a bit of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Has it been a long year for you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>How are you feeling?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you? How do I sound?

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<v Speaker 4>Look you are a little bit under the weather. We

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<v Speaker 4>had to record these episodes. We're not obviously we're not live.

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<v Speaker 4>Podcasts aren't live. I hate to ruin it for anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>What.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've had to drag ash to my house. Unwell,

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<v Speaker 4>he's on a lot of drugs, all legal, A couple of.

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<v Speaker 1>Pain killers, couple of painkillers.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're just having a really nostalgic day.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a soldier, you're a soldier, a young soldier.

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<v Speaker 4>We're just talking about what a year it's been. What

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<v Speaker 4>amazing guests that we've had on this podcast. And we thought,

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<v Speaker 4>we thought we'll give you a little reminder just how

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<v Speaker 4>good it was. I know I sound arrogant, so just

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<v Speaker 4>bear with me.

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<v Speaker 1>He sounds great. Shut up do I gosh, my good,

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<v Speaker 1>you's sound great, But also shut up. We did we

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<v Speaker 1>had some really good guesses. Both of our wives.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh look is arrogant?

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<v Speaker 1>Now, we had both of our wives.

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<v Speaker 2>She's nass.

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<v Speaker 5>April was.

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<v Speaker 1>Abril had a bit of Alian before she started.

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<v Speaker 2>Did she really?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I shouldn't laugh at her drug problems.

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<v Speaker 1>She was very anxious, very anxious, my wife.

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<v Speaker 6>But we had Laura Burn, also very anxious. She was

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<v Speaker 6>on more than ones this year. April's on more than

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<v Speaker 6>one too. We had a few episodes with April, so

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<v Speaker 6>we are happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Today to bring you Laura Burn, April Wicks.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we led in the mix and Kayla George one

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<v Speaker 4>of our favorite episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor George would be up there with one of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite episodes. I'd say, yeah you.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't realize when we first met. I had no

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<v Speaker 4>idea how much of a basketball fan you are.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, look, I love a good time and I think

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<v Speaker 3>basketball is all a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a party.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a big part and also one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 4>chats with a dad breath and Asta is also in

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<v Speaker 4>the mix. So it's a cracking episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Enjoy.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get into.

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<v Speaker 7>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>I've asked it a few times in the podcast. We've

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<v Speaker 3>spoken about it a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had a sectomy. Matt hasn't endured that as yet.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to know, is there a possibility for a

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<v Speaker 3>third child, A third Johnson?

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<v Speaker 8>A third Johnson that's not a cat? Do you want

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<v Speaker 8>to have another kid?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so?

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<v Speaker 8>So this is this is why the pendulum has swung

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<v Speaker 8>so wide. I watched it and I can't keep up

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<v Speaker 8>with him because only a couple of months ago, Matt

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<v Speaker 8>said he did not want to have another child.

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<v Speaker 4>At all, because you're advocating for it. You pulled me

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<v Speaker 4>aside and said we're having a.

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<v Speaker 2>Third personally for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want another one for you.

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<v Speaker 7>There is enough plans and cats and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be honest, I don't need it. Why

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need you guys have anymore?

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<v Speaker 9>Is it the stress of what I would requires?

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<v Speaker 4>Already?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm stressed out, man.

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<v Speaker 6>The plants are staring at me, the cat's staring at me,

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<v Speaker 6>a three legged dogs staring at me, and now you

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<v Speaker 6>want to introduce a fucking baby to stare at me

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<v Speaker 6>on here too?

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<v Speaker 8>Okay? So I always thought it's funny for me because

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<v Speaker 8>I never really ever saw myself as being a mom

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<v Speaker 8>like I didn't. I never had you. I never had

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<v Speaker 8>the maternal pool. I never ever dreamt about being mom

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<v Speaker 8>or I didn't even know if i'd be a good mom. Really,

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<v Speaker 8>I was like, that seems like you require a lot

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<v Speaker 8>of patience to do it. And then I had Marley,

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<v Speaker 8>and I well know that I met Matt, and you

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<v Speaker 8>really wanted to be a dad.

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<v Speaker 5>And so.

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<v Speaker 9>You really wanted to be a dad.

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<v Speaker 8>And I think it was your excitement about wanting to

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<v Speaker 8>be a dad that made me have excitement about wanting

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<v Speaker 8>to be a mom. Even though I kind of knew

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<v Speaker 8>it would be my plans. I just didn't have this

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<v Speaker 8>like big maternal pool. Then Molly came around, and I

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<v Speaker 8>loved it so much more than I ever thought I would.

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<v Speaker 8>And I think people are so quick to tell you

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<v Speaker 8>all the bad bits about parenting, and people don't really

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<v Speaker 8>stop and tell you the incredible bits.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just so much more fun to talk about.

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<v Speaker 8>That's what totally and people. We revel in complaining, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 8>that's my favorite thing. Humans love to complain. There's this

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<v Speaker 8>real like shared almost like like like shared camaraderie when

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<v Speaker 8>we complain about stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>All we do on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're complaining about how the meads uncooked.

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<v Speaker 4>But I will say you're also a great mum as well.

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<v Speaker 9>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>I love being a mom.

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<v Speaker 1>I do, I do want.

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<v Speaker 9>I love it.

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<v Speaker 8>I love it so much more than I ever thought

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<v Speaker 8>I would. And I look at Lola now, and you know, obviously,

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<v Speaker 8>whether we have two, we have three, I'm still a

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<v Speaker 8>mom for as long as I am on the earth.

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<v Speaker 8>But my thing is I look at Lola and I

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<v Speaker 8>can't believe that I'm never going to have another little

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<v Speaker 8>person like that. She's the youngest that there is ever

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<v Speaker 8>going to be in this household. And but every so

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<v Speaker 8>often I just have these moments where I'm like, surely

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<v Speaker 8>this can't be it. And I always thought I would

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<v Speaker 8>get to a point of completeness. I thought I would

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<v Speaker 8>wake up one day and be like after Lola was born.

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<v Speaker 8>I thought I would have this moment where I'd be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm so done, like tie the tube.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a possibility.

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<v Speaker 8>I would like to I'm thirty eight now, I'll be

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<v Speaker 8>thirty nine next year. Work is a lot in terms

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<v Speaker 8>of like contracts and trying to figure out timings and stuff.

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<v Speaker 8>But if we could have a baby next year, I

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<v Speaker 8>would be excited too.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you name it after me.

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<v Speaker 9>It would be named.

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<v Speaker 8>Ash jam Picklets like.

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<v Speaker 9>I know Jamie Little Jimmy Jam.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm definitely done obviously. How that a sex me?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, okay, well I know that you like you feel

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<v Speaker 8>the churl in there, but ok. My one thing though

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<v Speaker 8>about like having another kid is that I think people's

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<v Speaker 8>instant reaction when someone has already has two these days

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<v Speaker 8>and that's two of the same sex, the instant thought

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<v Speaker 8>is to be like, oh, well, you're trying for a boy,

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<v Speaker 8>like you're trying for the alternate sex. I love being

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<v Speaker 8>a mum to girls. I always saw myself if I

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<v Speaker 8>was going to have kids as having boys, so like

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<v Speaker 8>it's my parenting thoughts of what I thought it was

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<v Speaker 8>going to be is completely out the way.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd always prefer another girl.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, and if we had three girls, I would be

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<v Speaker 8>absolutely fucking thrilled. So I want that to be like

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<v Speaker 8>on record, so that if we ever do have another girl,

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<v Speaker 8>people are like, oh my god, yeah, I just wanted

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<v Speaker 8>to have my boy, just wanted genuinely, Yeah, I could

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<v Speaker 8>see us having another kid. Also, Nana just moved in,

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<v Speaker 8>so like we've got a free baby sitter.

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to be more involved.

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<v Speaker 7>You could be the Godfather.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>I laugh about it now.

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<v Speaker 10>But the thing I think that I was attracted to

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<v Speaker 10>you were like your whole two tattoos that you had

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<v Speaker 10>at the time, and I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, that's hot, and they're like the worst tattoos I have, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>under my arm and under that they're like one of

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<v Speaker 3>them was done by a tato artist that she was

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<v Speaker 3>pissed and it was like, so it's so bad, and

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<v Speaker 3>the other one was just like a dumb seventeen year

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<v Speaker 3>old tatoo.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you show where the tattoos that night?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I just walked around those.

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<v Speaker 10>By the way, he was skinnier than me as well,

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<v Speaker 10>it was I was so small.

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<v Speaker 4>The photos of you when you were younger, you're a

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<v Speaker 4>bit of a trim young lad.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh now what am I fat?

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<v Speaker 3>Dad?

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<v Speaker 2>A very clean cut.

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<v Speaker 1>You're allowed ten kilos for every kid you have.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't have the mustache.

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<v Speaker 4>No, did that version of events match what happened from you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? Yeah, that was pretty bang on. I think I

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<v Speaker 3>tried really hard to go home with her. She said, no,

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<v Speaker 3>kick me off the bus.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, we did catch a bus home, got a bus home.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, young I was poor and then I spent weeks

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<v Speaker 3>weeks courting, courting weeks to the point where it was

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<v Speaker 3>a joke between her and her friends. So I was

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<v Speaker 3>a joke really.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you were you were like playing hard.

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<v Speaker 9>To get or he was very keen.

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<v Speaker 10>And I remember joking like because he sent like, not millions,

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<v Speaker 10>but he said plenty.

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<v Speaker 5>Of messages throughout the day.

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<v Speaker 10>And at that time I had a job where my

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<v Speaker 10>phone was locked away on a locker and you'd send

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<v Speaker 10>like a couple of messages like just like, how's your day,

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<v Speaker 10>but then another one would come through.

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<v Speaker 2>The one You're going back to back to back.

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<v Speaker 9>Back to back to back in those days.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'd never do that now.

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<v Speaker 10>And I joke to one of my friends at the

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<v Speaker 10>time and I was like, oh my god, this guy's

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<v Speaker 10>so keen.

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<v Speaker 5>Imagine if I end up marrying him.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, guys persistence.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you remember after you guys met at the pub,

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<v Speaker 4>like what your first date was?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, where did you go?

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<v Speaker 10>So you'd been out like that whole day, so I

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<v Speaker 10>think you'd been drinking as well, So you were like,

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<v Speaker 10>does not sound like that. You were like, Oh, we

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<v Speaker 10>should go out for dinner, but I think you need

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<v Speaker 10>to Can you pick me up.

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<v Speaker 3>WHOA, I was out during the day, but I had

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<v Speaker 3>tried to see April at other occasions but she was

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<v Speaker 3>playing hard to get. And then the one occasion I

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<v Speaker 3>was in Bondai actually, and the one occasion where she

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh I'm free tonight, I was. I caught

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<v Speaker 3>up with a girlfriend of mine that I had moved

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<v Speaker 3>down as well, and we just hadn't seen each other yet.

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<v Speaker 3>She moved to bond dimit, so we caught up for

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<v Speaker 3>a drink and lunch. I only had like two or

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<v Speaker 3>three beers, but I got a bus and a train there,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, thinking Okay, I'll probably just spend the evening

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<v Speaker 3>in Bondai and see what that's about.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it was like, oh shit.

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<v Speaker 3>So I pretty much stopped whatever I was doing and

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<v Speaker 3>got on a bus and then got on a train.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing is that I was like, A, You're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have to drive. So I got dropped at her.

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<v Speaker 3>Like pretty much at her place, and then we drove

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<v Speaker 3>to where I was living, which was on the floor

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<v Speaker 3>of Pete's house, who was at the cafe street.

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<v Speaker 1>So just to clear that up.

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<v Speaker 5>Carry on, I'm pretty sure as well.

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<v Speaker 10>You did send in a message I think that's when

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<v Speaker 10>you told me.

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<v Speaker 9>You're like, oh, I can't afford dinner.

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<v Speaker 10>I can't remember how I found out that you couldn't

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<v Speaker 10>pay for dinner much.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, I'm.

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<v Speaker 10>Pretty sure you like told me straight up, You're like,

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<v Speaker 10>I haven't got money for dinner, but I'd love to

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<v Speaker 10>take you out.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was like, context, context, context is everything, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I had. I had packed up my car.

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<v Speaker 3>From living in my parents' house, moved here, was working

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<v Speaker 3>three jobs that paid cash, and it was like the

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<v Speaker 3>worst time because I was in Bondou with all my

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<v Speaker 3>money that I had and had pretty much spent it

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<v Speaker 3>on lunch and everything, thinking Okay, I'm just going to

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<v Speaker 3>go home. I'll get paid the next couple of days

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<v Speaker 3>from one of these jobs. But then I didn't want

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<v Speaker 3>to miss the opportunity.

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<v Speaker 9>So honesty, honesty is the best pose.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I don't think I don't recall saying it.

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I just I can't remember how I found out

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<v Speaker 10>that I had to pay, because I did have to

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<v Speaker 10>pay to that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, let's get to that. Okay, you didn't have to pay.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't make you pay the.

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<v Speaker 5>End, because no, he did.

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<v Speaker 10>He gave me a discount, didn't he because you worked

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<v Speaker 10>where we end up going for dinner.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, we drove. We drove somewhere.

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<v Speaker 9>We didn't really have plans, and I was driving.

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<v Speaker 10>I think we went to go to a sushi place,

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<v Speaker 10>but we couldn't park or something, and then we end

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<v Speaker 10>up going to You were like.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh, I work it.

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<v Speaker 1>I work at this jizza.

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<v Speaker 9>Pizza place, so we'll go there.

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<v Speaker 5>And so we went there.

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<v Speaker 10>I had dinner and whatnot, and obviously all his co

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<v Speaker 10>workers were like behind my back, which I know now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>and then the bill came and I went up to

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<v Speaker 10>pay and.

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<v Speaker 1>Afford to pay, but.

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<v Speaker 5>My name.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the important thing to remember is that you

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<v Speaker 4>can start with the bar really low and then from

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<v Speaker 4>then on everything's a plus.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and you did? You did?

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<v Speaker 9>You used to spoil me rotten in what way? Oh?

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<v Speaker 10>I remember like one of the first Valentine's Days, I

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<v Speaker 10>think you bought.

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<v Speaker 5>Me an iPad mini, buy me jewelry.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, like literally spent probably credit card debt.

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<v Speaker 3>It can't make up for that one dinner I couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>pay for. But it was the most important dinner obviously.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean, at the time, I recall, I was

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<v Speaker 3>like okay, well, the people I was with in Bonder,

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<v Speaker 3>I got to go, and it was like I got

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<v Speaker 3>to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to go for a particular reason.

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<v Speaker 3>I could have easily just been like no not yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So that's how that's how the first date went.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you remember thinking on that date? This feels different

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<v Speaker 4>to other dates that I've been on.

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<v Speaker 10>Definitely, she had to pay for it, Like I.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel slightly lighter in the wallet. It wasn't expensive, all right.

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<v Speaker 10>No, and like you know you're talking when we were twenty,

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<v Speaker 10>there was not a high expectation of like long.

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<v Speaker 5>Whining and it was about that. Yeah. Yeah, I enjoyed

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<v Speaker 5>his company.

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<v Speaker 4>Your dog is very into the story. I don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to ask questions that are too personal. Did you have

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<v Speaker 4>a kiss after dinner?

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<v Speaker 1>Was there a kiss?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh?

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<v Speaker 9>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember. I think so well, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 9>Where, like wouldn't have been at the restaurant.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember when are we Because we had to stop

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<v Speaker 3>at my place before we went, and I was living

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<v Speaker 3>with Pete and there's three brothers in that house, Like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>walked in there, had to get some fresh clothes, and

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<v Speaker 3>Pete was like, where are you going? I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going on a date with April Gates and he

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<v Speaker 3>was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Bullshit, you're lying bullshit. And then I was like and

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<v Speaker 1>then he's like walked out open the front door. It's like, dahn,

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<v Speaker 1>she had a big crash on April. So I stole

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<v Speaker 1>a stolen something.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think I was ever his, but.

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<v Speaker 1>He still thinks, he still thinks he's got to change.

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<v Speaker 4>For anyone who hasn't been in the room, for anyone

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<v Speaker 4>who hasn't given birth, what's it like, and especially because

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<v Speaker 4>I can't imagine doing that without drugs, but you're in

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<v Speaker 4>a moment of like extreme pain. And then what's it

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<v Speaker 4>like when you get to see your child for the

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<v Speaker 4>first time and you get to hold them?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, okay, so hang the fuck on bus. Obviously have

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<v Speaker 11>seen it as dads, but holy Molly, like nothing prepares.

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<v Speaker 5>You for that.

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<v Speaker 11>It is excruciating. And you have a plan, chuck that

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<v Speaker 11>fucking plan in a bin. That plan is not sticking

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<v Speaker 11>to play. That is so true.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I had a plan.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, I'm like a non planning plant person that

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<v Speaker 11>I was like, Hey, I want to have it in

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<v Speaker 11>the bath, Like I'm real zoning idea I'm going to

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<v Speaker 11>breathe through this thing. Let's have it in the bath.

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<v Speaker 11>I couldn't even fit in the fucking bar my legs,

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<v Speaker 11>my legs were way too long for this public coastural bath.

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<v Speaker 11>And yeah, no, the pain I felt, I think Minnie

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<v Speaker 11>was apparently turned the wrong way inside me and shit,

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<v Speaker 11>and she was taking ages to come out and blah blah.

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<v Speaker 11>My legs felt like they were going to fall off.

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<v Speaker 11>They were numb but also killing. The pain wasn't so

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<v Speaker 11>much in the contractions. It was more in my lower

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<v Speaker 11>back and my legs. I remember my through my contractions,

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<v Speaker 11>I was vomiting so like actually vomiting it all over

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<v Speaker 11>me as well. My mom was the fear in my

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<v Speaker 11>mum's face like said it all to me. I was like,

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<v Speaker 11>I think I'm gonna die, Like I remember saying that

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<v Speaker 11>to her. And she had had beautiful bursts with me

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<v Speaker 11>and my brother. She'd had really quick bursts. And get this,

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<v Speaker 11>she said to me, birth is painless. It doesn't hurt pie.

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<v Speaker 11>I don't know, this shouldn't matter. I don't think this matters.

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<v Speaker 11>But like in my head, my mom.

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<v Speaker 5>Is a stick. She's like a quarter of the size

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<v Speaker 5>of me. So I was like, mum's miniature.

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<v Speaker 11>If she can push out two big heads that me

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<v Speaker 11>and my brother had.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's apparently painless.

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<v Speaker 11>This is a walking apart from me and my baby

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<v Speaker 11>was pretty small, but the way whatever the fuck she

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<v Speaker 11>was doing in there, it was just killing. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 11>birth was far and it was too late. By the

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<v Speaker 11>time I got through all all the hours of dying

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<v Speaker 11>in the whatever with the midwives.

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<v Speaker 5>And stuff, it was just too late to get an epy.

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<v Speaker 11>Like by the time I was like, what's going on, guys,

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<v Speaker 11>can I get the epidural? They were like, well, you've

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<v Speaker 11>literally you've probably only got an hour left.

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<v Speaker 5>You're about to start start pushing.

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<v Speaker 11>You've just done this for like seven hours, like and

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<v Speaker 11>I was like, oh, yeah, okay. Now it's like I'm

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<v Speaker 11>this is a mental thing, and I'm like, okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 11>not getting it, like I'm going to do this because

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<v Speaker 11>I was like, I should have got it like ten hours.

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<v Speaker 11>But when she came out, I was just so fricking

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<v Speaker 11>frothing and relieved that that was over and trying.

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<v Speaker 5>To figure out how to hold this sip slippery little

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<v Speaker 5>sleep because they're so slippery sippery.

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<v Speaker 12>No one tells you that you're going to drop it

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<v Speaker 12>like I was. I wasn't in a bed, I was

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<v Speaker 12>on all fours on the little tile whatever the floor is,

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<v Speaker 12>and she was just so slippery, and I was like, shit,

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<v Speaker 12>we're all covered in blood and vomited and everything.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to drop this little egg.

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<v Speaker 11>It took so long of me just catching my breath

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<v Speaker 11>chilling for like a few minutes before my mom and

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<v Speaker 11>the midwives were like.

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<v Speaker 5>What is it? Check what it is?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, what is it?

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<v Speaker 7>You know what?

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<v Speaker 5>What's what's the sex? And so that was super cool,

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<v Speaker 5>and I was like, holy ship.

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<v Speaker 11>I was like almost scared to like look because I

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<v Speaker 11>was like, oh my god, I can't believe I've just

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<v Speaker 11>been so lost in this moment of like just frothing

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<v Speaker 11>that this little slugs in my arms that I haven't

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<v Speaker 11>even thought to look at what it is because I'm

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<v Speaker 11>just so stoked to have a healthy baby that's screaming

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<v Speaker 11>at me.

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<v Speaker 5>And yeah, it was a girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes. Habilical cords also a bit confusing as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Your homos.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you have to cut it?

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<v Speaker 5>Did you cut it? How hard is it to cut?

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<v Speaker 5>Like Calamari, I was like.

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<v Speaker 11>My mom had the scissors and was like chopping, like

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<v Speaker 11>trying to it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Not easy to shop because these are craps.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, literally where the proper get cut.

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<v Speaker 2>Open kids safety.

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<v Speaker 5>Exactly the plastic ones.

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<v Speaker 11>But nah, as you guys know, those moments are ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 5>And then I just remember they kind of.

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<v Speaker 11>Put me in the bed, babies on me, like figuring

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<v Speaker 11>out how to breastfeed and like that. But just like

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<v Speaker 11>you're so off with the fairies, You're just like, what

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<v Speaker 11>the hell? And then they're just like stitching me up

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<v Speaker 11>and doing whatever they're doing. And that's not even I'm

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<v Speaker 11>not even feeling a thing there because you're just so

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<v Speaker 11>wrapped up in like, oh my god, you've got a

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<v Speaker 11>baby on your move and such a cool and my

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<v Speaker 11>mum was so great in those moments.

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<v Speaker 3>The way that Pearl was conceived and you've come to

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<v Speaker 3>be a mum is so unique. Can you talk us

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<v Speaker 3>through when you made that decision or how the conversation

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<v Speaker 3>started to go down that that We were just talking

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<v Speaker 3>about it before. Matt and I were like, how do

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<v Speaker 3>you put that on the table, like, talk us through

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<v Speaker 3>it if you don't mind.

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<v Speaker 7>Of course, of course, kylu My husband is a toaster

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<v Speaker 7>islander and it's really common in Ireland culture to gift

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<v Speaker 7>babies to other family members that are struggling to have

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<v Speaker 7>their own children. And they truly believe that when they

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<v Speaker 7>do that, they get their own after they have their

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<v Speaker 7>own after which happens a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not straight, not just.

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<v Speaker 7>My husband, although my husband did think I was feed

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<v Speaker 7>part fore GM when we first met, so I was like,

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<v Speaker 7>just you listen to what I'm saying. So, yeah, when

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<v Speaker 7>I first started dating Kylou, I met his family and

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<v Speaker 7>I knew that a couple of his nieces, his sister

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<v Speaker 7>had a couple of babies and she gifted her second

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<v Speaker 7>one to his mum. They lived in the same house,

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<v Speaker 7>so I knew of the concept of what you know

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<v Speaker 7>it was about. They call it custom island adoption. There

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<v Speaker 7>is an Island name for it, but I'll just give

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<v Speaker 7>you the English name, and so yeah, it's very common

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<v Speaker 7>and it's the highest form of respect in their culture

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<v Speaker 7>to gift it. Yeah. Nina, my sister in law, she

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<v Speaker 7>knew my story. She knew I've been trying and I'd

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<v Speaker 7>wanted to have babies, and I would have had two

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<v Speaker 7>kids by now if it was like, you know, easy

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<v Speaker 7>to pick a time and you know, it's just not

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<v Speaker 7>in that easy for me with a lot of different

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<v Speaker 7>reasons with the period stuff and being an athlete and

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<v Speaker 7>not wanting to miss events. But so after the Rio Olympics,

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<v Speaker 7>she sat me down with Kylie's older sister and Kylo

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<v Speaker 7>and she said, look, we'd love to gift you a

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<v Speaker 7>baby at some point when the time's right for everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy wow.

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<v Speaker 7>I was like, oh my gosh, huge, amazing. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 7>overwhelmed with it because I knew of the practice in

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<v Speaker 7>the culture, so I was like, oh, my gosh, is

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<v Speaker 7>if you do that? I was like, oh wow. I

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<v Speaker 7>was more overwhelmed that, like it could have been happening

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<v Speaker 7>like soon.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh, when you were struggling to fullbring it,

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<v Speaker 4>did you think, hey, this may be an option.

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<v Speaker 7>No, Kylon never really spoke about it, but I did

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<v Speaker 7>speak to his sister Nino about it a fair bit.

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<v Speaker 7>So it was always like kind of in my mind like, oh,

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<v Speaker 7>that that could be an option. But I really do

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<v Speaker 7>hope to still one day like be able to hold

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<v Speaker 7>a baby and still like a baby myself. But if

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<v Speaker 7>this is our only option, that's really cool too, Like

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<v Speaker 7>what a blessing? And so yeah, I guess what year

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<v Speaker 7>are we now, twenty twenty four. I guess at the

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<v Speaker 7>start of yeah, twenty twenty two. We just finished our

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<v Speaker 7>Boomers season in Melbourne. I was playing for Melbourn Boomers

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<v Speaker 7>and I went home and held like a big gathering

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<v Speaker 7>from Kyler's family, my family at my house in cans

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<v Speaker 7>and my sister Nina was like, Taylor, I'm nine weeks pregnant.

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<v Speaker 7>And I was like a wild but She's like, if

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<v Speaker 7>it's a boy, we're going to keep it because we've

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<v Speaker 7>only got the one boy. But if it's a girl,

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<v Speaker 7>we want to gift it to you. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 7>oh my god, Like, when the when's the test? When

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<v Speaker 7>do we know what it is?

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<v Speaker 3>They would have been trying and stuff without you knowing, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and then.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously knowing that they wanted to give to you a baby.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, then them saying hey, we're nine weeks pregnant is

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<v Speaker 3>as biggest shock to you as it is to the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of the family.

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose, right, Yeah, No, it.

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<v Speaker 7>Was a bit of a shock, but I really wanted

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<v Speaker 7>to see what sex it was going to be because

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<v Speaker 7>they were going to keep the boy because they'd only

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<v Speaker 7>had one son and they wanted another son. I was like,

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<v Speaker 7>that's totally fair, Like it's your child even if.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't want to give me, so you're still there's

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<v Speaker 5>still like fifty to.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty with Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>So as soon as we were able to be got

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<v Speaker 7>the test done and we the doctor's exact words, but

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<v Speaker 7>oh no, that's a hamburger. That's not a sausage, and

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<v Speaker 7>that's a hamburger, Like, oh was that the official term?

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<v Speaker 1>The medical term for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't the same doctor that's reckoning, I.

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<v Speaker 7>Was American.

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<v Speaker 2>Funny.

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<v Speaker 7>So yeah, after that, after we found out the gender,

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<v Speaker 7>then we kind of just got into like, mind you,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm preparing for a World Cup like a major event,

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<v Speaker 7>while I'm preparing to be a mum, and so, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>just telling my family and the close friends that I had,

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<v Speaker 7>and I'm like, what, like they weren't really aware of

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<v Speaker 7>the culture side of all. I don't really. I hadn't

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<v Speaker 7>spoken about, you know, how their family do that before,

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<v Speaker 7>so people kind of took a second to let it

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<v Speaker 7>sink in.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, I mean, I think it's beautiful, but when

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<v Speaker 4>you first hear about it, you're like, because it's so

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<v Speaker 4>different to how Western culture would.

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<v Speaker 3>Be, I know, it's kind of like I didn't think

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<v Speaker 3>it was that was the thing, and there'd be so

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<v Speaker 3>many people listening right now that would be especially men.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they would be like I never thought that that

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<v Speaker 1>would be.

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<v Speaker 7>There was a lot of situ Yeah when I posted,

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<v Speaker 7>when it came out, there'd been articles written or whatever.

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<v Speaker 7>There was a lot of troll comings of just people

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<v Speaker 7>that just had no open mind or no idea, like

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<v Speaker 7>and that's fine, Like that's social media these days, right,

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<v Speaker 7>you can't do anything. I don't know that you get

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<v Speaker 7>troll coming to this podcast, though.

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<v Speaker 2>Normally it's just you guys swear too much. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, we made front of a dentists and then people

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<v Speaker 1>came after.

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<v Speaker 13>As we love the dentists doctors technically, but anyway, assuming

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<v Speaker 13>that you'd have a bit of a thick skin playing

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<v Speaker 13>professional sport, copying heat from people, we'll still.

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<v Speaker 7>Get to you sometimes though, if you let it. There's

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of stuff, and it can be pretty debilitating

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<v Speaker 7>when you're not in a confident headspace because we've always

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<v Speaker 7>got to maintain a confidence level to be able to

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<v Speaker 7>perform and play under pressure. I don't know what life

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<v Speaker 7>is like to not have pressure, like basketball pressure and

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<v Speaker 7>if I finish one tournament, it's like, well, one game

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<v Speaker 7>will and what's next. There's always pressure for the next thing.

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<v Speaker 7>So I think when I retire in years to come,

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<v Speaker 7>because I feel like I've got a good chunk of

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<v Speaker 7>years left in me, I can't wait to feel like

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<v Speaker 7>what life's like with no pressure basketball pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just it was boring over here.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so once we back to the pearl train of events,

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<v Speaker 7>so once you know, it got closer to the time

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<v Speaker 7>I had the World Cup. We won a bronze medal

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<v Speaker 7>in Sydney. We beat Canada in the bronze medal game.

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<v Speaker 7>Nine days later, I'm in the theater with Nina Wow,

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<v Speaker 7>getting pearly. I was really nervous about the connection piece.

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<v Speaker 7>I was really nervous, like about everything.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just in what way, well.

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<v Speaker 7>Because I hadn't held it. I hadn't, you know, actually

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<v Speaker 7>been growing her in my belly. So I was really

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<v Speaker 7>nervous about yeah, the connection but skinned skin straight away

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<v Speaker 7>was with me and it was beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wow, yea or.

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<v Speaker 7>Not the skin I held her straight away then, like

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<v Speaker 7>when we went to the recovery redinal skin on skin

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<v Speaker 7>which is really beautiful. But I was also really nervous

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<v Speaker 7>and felt really guilty for taking away Nina's baby. And

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<v Speaker 7>she said to me in the in the recovery room,

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<v Speaker 7>she said, I, I've actually been holding her for you

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<v Speaker 7>this whole time. She's not been my baby this entire time.

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<v Speaker 7>She's been yours, and I've just been looking after it

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<v Speaker 7>for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Disconnected from that. Yeah, really, I suppose you've got her.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so I thought that. I mean, we're really close

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<v Speaker 7>to me and Nina, so we talk a lot, and

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<v Speaker 7>we've got a really great relationship. I guess you kind

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<v Speaker 7>of have to be able to do this. But she

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<v Speaker 7>was actually just down in Sydney last week with her

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<v Speaker 7>four year old son, so that was really great for

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<v Speaker 7>Pearl and Nicholas to be able to have a play.

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<v Speaker 7>But yeah, it was a really I almost would like

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<v Speaker 7>cry anytime, Like when we had to leave the hospital

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<v Speaker 7>and she went to her house and we went to

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<v Speaker 7>ours and I took Pearl. I was so emotional because

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<v Speaker 7>I felt this huge guilt that I didn't anticipate once

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<v Speaker 7>we had Pearl into the world, that I was taking

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<v Speaker 7>her away from Nina. Yeah, so I had to kind

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<v Speaker 7>of overcome. Nina would laugh at me I'm like, oh, yeah, so,

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<v Speaker 7>but she had already kind of done it in Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Being a single dad with girls, do you think that

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<v Speaker 3>time so much time with them has helped you build

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<v Speaker 3>a much stronger bond than maybe some other dads have

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<v Speaker 3>that are you know, still with the mom and there's

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<v Speaker 3>that mix.

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<v Speaker 14>This mixed For me, like Ahia, that bond is unbreakable

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<v Speaker 14>purely because from the day she was born, it's been

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<v Speaker 14>me and her for different circumstances gg I don't get

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<v Speaker 14>as much, which is hard for dads as well, right,

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<v Speaker 14>because it's small than I would say the stereotypical you

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<v Speaker 14>know break up where the mother mother has majority. You know,

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<v Speaker 14>we always want more, but that's it's different, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>like we I hope that. The hard thing is I

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<v Speaker 14>wanted to look forward to seeing me every time she

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<v Speaker 14>sees me, so as a dad when you've got her,

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<v Speaker 14>I don't want to I spoil her. But how much

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<v Speaker 14>do you spoil them that they don't benefit the right way?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. I've got thursdays.

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<v Speaker 4>Other days it's called daddy doing night and and we

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<v Speaker 4>have like swimming in the morning, and it's you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's the one day where Laura is working my wife,

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<v Speaker 4>and so she's me and the girls and and it's

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<v Speaker 4>this hard balance of I wanted to be a really memorable,

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<v Speaker 4>enjoyable experience, and so you want to give them things

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<v Speaker 4>that they enjoy. But at the same time, it's also

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<v Speaker 4>hard when it's just a bad day. Yeah, sometimes the

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<v Speaker 4>girls didn't have a good sleep, they're cranky, they don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to get their swimmers and got to swimming lessons,

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<v Speaker 4>and so it ends up being a shit day where

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<v Speaker 4>I'd spent disciplining And then how was it for you?

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<v Speaker 4>When you do that little window with Gigi and you

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<v Speaker 4>build it up to be something great and then it's not, and.

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<v Speaker 14>You sometimes heartbreaking because you got you've only got a

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<v Speaker 14>short period of time, like a couple of days with

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<v Speaker 14>her in a week, and if it's not a good time,

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<v Speaker 14>you're disappointed and it's sad because you've got to drop

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<v Speaker 14>it back on a bad note. Yeah, it just hasn't

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<v Speaker 14>gone to plan, and you don't have that every day

0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:40.720
<v Speaker 14>time to be with her for her, you know. So

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<v Speaker 14>it is hard for dads like that, and it just

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<v Speaker 14>doesn't always care to plan, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Especially they probably get older as well and they're into

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<v Speaker 3>their own things or they might. I mean with my daughter,

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:54.399
<v Speaker 3>she's so young that like if we have a tip,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we can get over pretty quick. You know

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<v Speaker 3>when that as they get, as she gets older and

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<v Speaker 3>more stubborn and illien herself and can be like, well,

0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:03.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to hold this grudge against you now because

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 3>that's not fair what you did.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever it might be, it must be really hard.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't imagine that drop off at the end of

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<v Speaker 3>your time and you haven't been able to mend that bridge,

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:15.240
<v Speaker 3>and then you've got to wait all that this time to.

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<v Speaker 14>Try and try and have that moment and it's your

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<v Speaker 14>own daughter, you know, Yeah, it's hard to take you

0:28:21.040 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 14>as you go back again to all you ever think

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<v Speaker 14>of is as someone as a kid or just growing up,

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<v Speaker 14>is having that perfect family right where you've got your

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<v Speaker 14>kids and you know, I was brought up in Well

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<v Speaker 14>it didn't end up being a perfect family, but it

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<v Speaker 14>was from my childhood.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you get to a point where it's just

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<v Speaker 2>not and you've got to deal with it.

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<v Speaker 14>But that's like, you know, we've all got we've all

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<v Speaker 14>got ways of dealing with different things and things we've

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<v Speaker 14>got to navigate through and it's a constant challenge for me.

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<v Speaker 14>But I love I love my girls, and I love

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<v Speaker 14>bring and dads.

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<v Speaker 4>Well well, well, well, well, well here we are ash.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nice to revisit those voices.

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<v Speaker 4>Trying to say that with a really serious face sound

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<v Speaker 4>like someone who's got is this schizophrenia?

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I say to myself every night podcast. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait to lay down and revisit those voices.

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<v Speaker 4>having a delicious, wonderful, relaxing break over the Christmas period.

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