WEBVTT - Lily Brown's Soft Launch, Michael Finch Breaks His Silence & The Hayley Bieber Interview 

0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:03.680
<v Speaker 1>On today's show, Lily Brown soft launches her new man,

0:00:04.000 --> 0:00:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Michael Finch breaks silence on friendship, breakdown with Sky Wheatley,

0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Molly May gives baby name clues, and the much anticipated

0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Haley Beaber interview. Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your

0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:22.280
<v Speaker 1>dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture news twice

0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:25.120
<v Speaker 1>a week. I'm Kate Torbert and I've just finished penning

0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:28.480
<v Speaker 1>a very angry etow. So, for those who have been

0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:30.479
<v Speaker 1>following along at home, I am going through a bit

0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:32.199
<v Speaker 1>of a skin journey where I'm trying to get rid

0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:35.040
<v Speaker 1>of my pigmentation, and I have gone through this whole

0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:38.080
<v Speaker 1>course of chemical pill treatments only to find out from

0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:40.960
<v Speaker 1>my new dermatologists that I should never have been recommended

0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:43.440
<v Speaker 1>to them. Basically, you found out that they're a load

0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:45.919
<v Speaker 1>of shit for what you need done. Yeah, my dermatologists

0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:48.040
<v Speaker 1>is like, well, your freckles are actually a lot deeper

0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:50.040
<v Speaker 1>and there's no way any chemical pill is going to

0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:52.199
<v Speaker 1>lift them. You need ipl laser And that is what

0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:54.800
<v Speaker 1>I actually went in and asked this skin clinic for.

0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:57.120
<v Speaker 1>In the first place, I think where you went wrong

0:00:57.320 --> 0:00:59.520
<v Speaker 1>was not going to a dermatologist first. So that's really

0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:01.160
<v Speaker 1>a bit of a tiar for the listeners. Well, I

0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:04.120
<v Speaker 1>thought they were dermatologists. They touted themselves as having doctors

0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:06.720
<v Speaker 1>and nurses on board. But yeah, I highly recommend going

0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:09.000
<v Speaker 1>to a dermatologist. I also got my skin check and

0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:11.399
<v Speaker 1>it was all good. So again, just a reminder for

0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:13.640
<v Speaker 1>everyone to do the same. So, Kate, will we see

0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:17.160
<v Speaker 1>updates after you've been lazer? Because I watched a vlog

0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:19.960
<v Speaker 1>the other day and Sophie and I have had laser ourselves.

0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:23.320
<v Speaker 1>It's extreme. I kind of want to follow altiating pain.

0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:25.200
<v Speaker 1>That's probably the worst thing I've ever done in my

0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:27.679
<v Speaker 1>whole life. It depends if there's good results. Maybe I'll

0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:29.640
<v Speaker 1>share it once. They have really nice quiz. But it's

0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:31.920
<v Speaker 1>a bit different now, isn't it. They've kind of modernized

0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:33.959
<v Speaker 1>the process because Amy and I had it done probably

0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:36.600
<v Speaker 1>five years ago, and we didn't have any numbing cream

0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:39.840
<v Speaker 1>and we came out we looked horrendous. Did well, I'll

0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:41.920
<v Speaker 1>keep you guys updated. I think it is still going

0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:44.800
<v Speaker 1>to be painful. Well, I'm Amy Torbert and I've got

0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:47.480
<v Speaker 1>a painful experience of my own coming up over the weekend.

0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Because Dale and I have stupidly organized our engagement party

0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:54.000
<v Speaker 1>at our house, and there is so much to do. Again,

0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:56.240
<v Speaker 1>it's not this weekend though, No, no it's not. But

0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:59.520
<v Speaker 1>the whole backyard needs to like the pergola needs to

0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:01.880
<v Speaker 1>be pained, said, there's so much that needs to be done.

0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean to be I told you so again,

0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:06.800
<v Speaker 1>but we did point out that it might be a

0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:09.240
<v Speaker 1>bit difficult and a bit of a quick time frame

0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:11.400
<v Speaker 1>to move around. Dale and I are literally the same person.

0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:15.240
<v Speaker 1>We thrive off this kind of time. You need the pressure.

0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:17.320
<v Speaker 1>You're a little bit both disorganized and you have these

0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:20.280
<v Speaker 1>big hopes but not really the skills to execute them.

0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Because my Hen's party is the first weekend of November,

0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.079
<v Speaker 1>We've got you've got a work thing on the following weekend,

0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:28.840
<v Speaker 1>and then that weekend then is your engagement part. I

0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:30.600
<v Speaker 1>know that's my I'm going to be where. It's a

0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:33.280
<v Speaker 1>long weekend, so I'm going to be in that backyard.

0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:36.160
<v Speaker 1>We're also going to be painting the kitchen. There's so

0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:38.600
<v Speaker 1>much going on. Do you really need to paint the kitchen? Like?

0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:42.400
<v Speaker 1>I think you need a prioritize focus on the stupidest stuff.

0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I came over and you've got these boxes

0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.680
<v Speaker 1>of Christmas lights ready for to deck out the backyard

0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:50.040
<v Speaker 1>for the party, and it's like, I don't think that's

0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:53.400
<v Speaker 1>a number one priority. My theme is white and gold. Okay,

0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:55.560
<v Speaker 1>so if you need any help, let us know. I

0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:57.600
<v Speaker 1>just feel like if you have a backyard and maybe

0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:00.000
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't look amazing, if you've got gold lights every day,

0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:02.120
<v Speaker 1>I think we've got as dark as well. Can had

0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:04.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of things. Well, I'm Sophie Tilbert and I'm

0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:08.320
<v Speaker 1>also planning my engagement party, but I don't want to

0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.560
<v Speaker 1>be rushed off my feet that day, so I've booked

0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:14.120
<v Speaker 1>in a venue by the beach, and I think I'm

0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:16.880
<v Speaker 1>doing the complete opposite to you, Amy. I think it'd

0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:18.800
<v Speaker 1>be much more children. I was the most low key

0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:21.280
<v Speaker 1>because I didn't have any party because I got proposed

0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:23.840
<v Speaker 1>to at our housewarming, so rees said that was an

0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:26.240
<v Speaker 1>engagement party, which it wasn't. But maybe we'll have to

0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:28.560
<v Speaker 1>do a real on your engagement party and then a

0:03:28.600 --> 0:03:31.520
<v Speaker 1>reeal on mine and ask the listeners which one they

0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:33.440
<v Speaker 1>would have preferred to have gone. I do want some

0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:36.880
<v Speaker 1>help from the listeners though, because I only found out

0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:40.280
<v Speaker 1>about my location, which is a surf lifesaving club because

0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I saw this Adelaide influencer having her engagement party. Were influenced. Yeah,

0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I was influenced. And it's funny. I said to the

0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:50.640
<v Speaker 1>guy I saw on this girl's page. He's like, oh

0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:53.080
<v Speaker 1>my god, We've had so many requests her. But when

0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:55.360
<v Speaker 1>I stepped inside the venue, I was like, this looks

0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:58.880
<v Speaker 1>completely different because she had this really cool curtain set

0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:01.240
<v Speaker 1>up over all. You know, surf life saving clubs, how

0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:03.560
<v Speaker 1>to have all the awards up. You don't really want

0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:05.200
<v Speaker 1>that one. I'm trying to look for some curtains, but

0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:06.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where to get them from because someone

0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:09.480
<v Speaker 1>sent me through some suggestion she would have hired them. Yeah, yeah,

0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:11.840
<v Speaker 1>she hired them. But I'm so lost it, you know,

0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:14.600
<v Speaker 1>because there's sheer ones. There's just so many to pick from.

0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:17.560
<v Speaker 1>It if anyone's planned an engagement party and has them.

0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:19.359
<v Speaker 1>I was tempted to reach out to this girl, but

0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:22.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to and I would appreciate if you

0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:26.479
<v Speaker 1>guys respect both of our privacy, But basically, yes, I

0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:29.640
<v Speaker 1>am single right now. So this week, a very juicy

0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:32.799
<v Speaker 1>DM dropped into our inbox. So one of our listeners

0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:35.960
<v Speaker 1>has reached out and they said that they spotted former

0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:40.680
<v Speaker 1>couple Madison Wooley and Jonathan sour out having dinner together. Now,

0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:44.240
<v Speaker 1>this lovely listener sent us photo as proof. So she

0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:46.440
<v Speaker 1>actually went up to the couple and we're like, oh,

0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:48.280
<v Speaker 1>can I have a photo with you? Guys? The couple. Okay,

0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:50.840
<v Speaker 1>you're getting ahead of yourself. Former couple. Well, it seems

0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:52.800
<v Speaker 1>like things are back on together. So this was on

0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:55.760
<v Speaker 1>the eleventh of September, and apparently they had been out

0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:58.560
<v Speaker 1>to a rugby match together, and we're having dinner and

0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:01.640
<v Speaker 1>drinks at a pub and they see very couple. I'm sorry,

0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:04.120
<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine Madison Woolly just going out with a

0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:06.520
<v Speaker 1>friend to a rugby match. You only go to a

0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:11.080
<v Speaker 1>boring sporting match like that with the guy your ex boyfriend. Yeah,

0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:14.160
<v Speaker 1>it's not just today. There's obviously some history going on.

0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:16.440
<v Speaker 1>I would actually like to see these two back together.

0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:19.160
<v Speaker 1>I want to see more content with them. I want

0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:21.600
<v Speaker 1>to see their vlogs. I think they're stronger together. I

0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:24.400
<v Speaker 1>think they're more of a brand together. So just for

0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:27.000
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a timeline, Madison announced that she

0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:31.280
<v Speaker 1>had broken up with Jonathan back in July twenty twenty one. Now,

0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:34.120
<v Speaker 1>she made this announcement just before Sydney and New South

0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Wales went into a big lockdown, which seems like it

0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.440
<v Speaker 1>would have been a bit of a mistake to break

0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:40.599
<v Speaker 1>up with your boyfriend then, and it seemed like the

0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:43.080
<v Speaker 1>couple were very on and off for quite a while.

0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:46.520
<v Speaker 1>I think they kind of ended things. That appears early

0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.280
<v Speaker 1>this year. Who could forget our episode on the Man

0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:51.599
<v Speaker 1>in the Mirror exactly. There were a lot of clues

0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:53.920
<v Speaker 1>that these two were together. So I'm wondering if they're

0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:56.400
<v Speaker 1>going to start dropping clues now. Yea, because they were

0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:59.560
<v Speaker 1>caught together, as you say, Amy, during lockdown. So Jonathan

0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:02.960
<v Speaker 1>was in the whilst Madison was making two cocktails for

0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:06.200
<v Speaker 1>the two of them to enjoy whilst they were stuck inside.

0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:09.039
<v Speaker 1>But what about this Sky Moody because he was rumored

0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:11.440
<v Speaker 1>to be dating Sky. And remember in an episode of

0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Madison's podcast, Girl Coach, she spoke about running into Jonathan

0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.080
<v Speaker 1>whilst he was on a date just before she went

0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:20.520
<v Speaker 1>away to Europe. Yeah, so Jonathan and Sky did seem

0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:22.640
<v Speaker 1>like they were a bit of a couple. So he

0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:26.080
<v Speaker 1>lives in Sydney and Sky lives in Queensland, so he

0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.960
<v Speaker 1>went across for the weekend, and they were sharing pictures

0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:31.040
<v Speaker 1>out and about. On this sort of date day, they

0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:33.719
<v Speaker 1>went to an adventure park and they went on a

0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.479
<v Speaker 1>helicopter ride, so it seemed like things were looking pretty

0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:38.600
<v Speaker 1>good for them. They also went to the Stacks event

0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:41.960
<v Speaker 1>together because they were spotted in the second row. But

0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I think it was SOFIDFA accidentally exposed them there together

0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:47.360
<v Speaker 1>because they didn't share that they were together. They've actually

0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:49.680
<v Speaker 1>they've already done the little soft launch thing. They haven't

0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:52.320
<v Speaker 1>appeared in one another's feeds. Yeah, so things seem to

0:06:52.360 --> 0:06:54.919
<v Speaker 1>be pretty good between those guys. However, when you have

0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:58.960
<v Speaker 1>a look through Sky's Instagram feed, Jonathan hasn't liked her

0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:02.599
<v Speaker 1>photos since all August thirtieth, and then she shared a

0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:05.200
<v Speaker 1>very telling post on the third of September. So she

0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:08.159
<v Speaker 1>was wearing this black leotard and she wrote the caption

0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:11.680
<v Speaker 1>more than you Can Handle with a black flag emoji.

0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Now I had to look at Jonathan's page and Sky

0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:17.640
<v Speaker 1>hadn't liked anything since the sixth of September, which kind

0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:20.480
<v Speaker 1>of fits this timeline of him seeing Madison out. On

0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:23.760
<v Speaker 1>the eleventh of September, however, she threw a spanner in

0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:26.080
<v Speaker 1>the works and has confused me because Sky liked one

0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:29.480
<v Speaker 1>of Jonathan's most recent reels and in the real he

0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.480
<v Speaker 1>is sipping on champagne having lunch at a winery with

0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:35.200
<v Speaker 1>the caption out of office for the weekend, and this

0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:37.800
<v Speaker 1>post has Madison wooly all over it, and I'm pretty

0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:40.720
<v Speaker 1>sure she is eating with him. So if Sky maybe

0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:42.880
<v Speaker 1>liking the post to be like, fuck you, I know

0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:46.040
<v Speaker 1>what's going on? Or is she a blieveing blissfully unaware,

0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:47.480
<v Speaker 1>because I feel like this is taking a bit of

0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:49.920
<v Speaker 1>detective work and a bit of sleuth's coming into the DM.

0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:51.760
<v Speaker 1>She might not know what's going on. If she's living

0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:53.880
<v Speaker 1>in Brisbane, it might be. I don't really feel like

0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:56.560
<v Speaker 1>her and Jonathan were officially an item. I feel like

0:07:56.600 --> 0:07:58.120
<v Speaker 1>it was a bit of a fight. You can tell

0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:00.840
<v Speaker 1>things are on the rocks when people aren't liking each

0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:03.600
<v Speaker 1>other's photos, and previously they'd been liking every other post.

0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Another interesting element is that Madison and Jonathan aren't following

0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:10.120
<v Speaker 1>each other on Instagram. I feel like Madison's the sort

0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.720
<v Speaker 1>of person that would have seen Jonathan with a new

0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:15.160
<v Speaker 1>love interest and gone I want him back, because we

0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:17.200
<v Speaker 1>know she's the one who broke up with him. Well,

0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:20.120
<v Speaker 1>people always look better when they're with someone else, and

0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:22.360
<v Speaker 1>she saw him as you said earlier, right before she

0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:25.640
<v Speaker 1>went to Europe, and after listening to her recount of

0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:27.720
<v Speaker 1>her European holiday, because she had pumped it up as

0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:30.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to hook up with all the hot guys overseas,

0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:33.959
<v Speaker 1>one she either was missing Jonathan and regretting her decision,

0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:37.839
<v Speaker 1>or two realized that maybe there aren't better guys out there,

0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:41.000
<v Speaker 1>because she's seen pretty disappointed with the lack of talent

0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:43.520
<v Speaker 1>that was available on this European holiday. The thing that

0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:45.880
<v Speaker 1>will be tough for Madison to come back from is

0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:48.200
<v Speaker 1>the fact that she has shitcanned him on her podcast

0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:50.960
<v Speaker 1>because she didn't fully go into a lot of details,

0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:53.439
<v Speaker 1>but there's been a lot of oh my ex did this,

0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:55.480
<v Speaker 1>and my ex did that. It's kind of like when

0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:57.679
<v Speaker 1>you slag your ex off to a friend and then

0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:00.000
<v Speaker 1>you have to admit, oh, actually, I've taken him back.

0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:02.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Caitlyn will be happy, because Caitlyn sounds

0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:05.199
<v Speaker 1>like she hates his guys well. Talking about Caitlin recently

0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.200
<v Speaker 1>on their podcast Girl Code, Madison has been talking about

0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:10.520
<v Speaker 1>how she's actually been on a date with one of

0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Caitlyn's partner's friends. So I wonder how that is all

0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:17.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna work, because again, there was a time when Madison

0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:19.640
<v Speaker 1>was talking a lot about this roster of guys that

0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:22.160
<v Speaker 1>she'd put together, But once she was back to Europe,

0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:24.960
<v Speaker 1>she was saying that she wasn't dating anymore and focusing

0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:28.160
<v Speaker 1>on herself. So I feel like there's something fishy going on.

0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:31.840
<v Speaker 1>She's also heading to America soon, and she's been talking

0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.760
<v Speaker 1>about is it not mister Bottles of Smiths, mister La

0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:38.440
<v Speaker 1>that she's meeting up with, so clearly from Rayah, of course.

0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:40.360
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I wonder how that will go because it'd

0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:43.960
<v Speaker 1>be tough trying to get back together from a fractured relationship.

0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they broke up probably three or four times already.

0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:48.679
<v Speaker 1>Tell me if I'm wrong. Didn't she get a trip

0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:53.320
<v Speaker 1>for Jonathan or something for his birthday to America? Maybe? Oh,

0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:56.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe they've reid something so maybe someone to travel with.

0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they were both still planning on using the tickets

0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:00.680
<v Speaker 1>or something. So she's going to go cup with mister

0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:02.800
<v Speaker 1>La while she's on a trip with her ex boyfriend,

0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:05.240
<v Speaker 1>though only time will tell. I feel like we won't

0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:07.760
<v Speaker 1>be hearing about what's actually going on until probably six

0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:10.040
<v Speaker 1>months after it's happened. Though, on the podcast, this has

0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:12.640
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of Sammy Robinson Jordan vibes happening because

0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:14.679
<v Speaker 1>remember they kept getting spotted out and none of them

0:10:14.679 --> 0:10:16.600
<v Speaker 1>would say, actually what was going on. So if any

0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:20.360
<v Speaker 1>other listeners have any juicy details for us, send them in.

0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:25.280
<v Speaker 1>We are now back from our day out. I've had

0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:27.360
<v Speaker 1>a quick shower. I've also had a little nap Whilst

0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:30.000
<v Speaker 1>they were Zoe, Danny an Tommy. They went to the

0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:32.400
<v Speaker 1>gym and I and trained, and obviously I stayed on

0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:35.480
<v Speaker 1>the bed eating chocolate biscuits and watching a film. Obviously,

0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:37.000
<v Speaker 1>then I fell asleep for an hour as well. It

0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:40.360
<v Speaker 1>was just really just what I needed. Since announcing her

0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:44.120
<v Speaker 1>pregnancy on Sunday, Molly may Haig has revealed more baby news.

0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:47.040
<v Speaker 1>After hiding her baby bump for over five months, the

0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:50.200
<v Speaker 1>former Love Islander is ready to share her pregnancy journey

0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:53.719
<v Speaker 1>with her followers. Kay what do we know so far? Well,

0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:55.760
<v Speaker 1>Molly was kind enough to put up a Q and

0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:58.040
<v Speaker 1>a box on her Insta story and said she was

0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:00.240
<v Speaker 1>going to answer a whole bunch of questions in a

0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:03.520
<v Speaker 1>new YouTube video. However, she gave fans what they were

0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:06.599
<v Speaker 1>looking for and answered a couple of the questions. So

0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:10.040
<v Speaker 1>someone asked Molly if it's been hard to hide her pregnancy,

0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:13.120
<v Speaker 1>and she said, strangely, it wasn't. So her aim was

0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:15.240
<v Speaker 1>to hide it for five months, and she said that

0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:18.480
<v Speaker 1>she was able to exceed that five months, so I'm

0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:22.000
<v Speaker 1>guessing she's around the sixth month mark now. Someone asked

0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:24.439
<v Speaker 1>also if they have done any baby shopping, and I

0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:26.440
<v Speaker 1>thought it was quite cute. Molly was saying that they've

0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:28.720
<v Speaker 1>really wanted to, but of course if they get spotted

0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:31.240
<v Speaker 1>in a baby section by the paparazzi, there's going to

0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:33.480
<v Speaker 1>be heaps of stories about it. So she said that

0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.120
<v Speaker 1>her and Tommy have sort of snuck into the baby

0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:38.839
<v Speaker 1>section and have loudly talked about, oh, we're getting this

0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:41.240
<v Speaker 1>for your cousin's baby shower, just so they can have

0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:44.400
<v Speaker 1>a look at what's around now. Molly also said that

0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:46.959
<v Speaker 1>she's been lucky that she hasn't had any sickness during

0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:50.040
<v Speaker 1>her pregnancy. She said she had a little bit of nausea, however,

0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:52.480
<v Speaker 1>during her first homester she was able to fix this

0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:55.400
<v Speaker 1>by just having a lot of snacks and meals. That's

0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:57.160
<v Speaker 1>probably why she's been able to keep it a secret

0:11:57.240 --> 0:11:59.920
<v Speaker 1>for so long, though, because if you look at Martha Callifetita,

0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:02.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they would have wanted to keep that secret

0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:04.959
<v Speaker 1>for a bit longer. I did find her approach to

0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:08.079
<v Speaker 1>the pregnancy quite interesting in regards of her YouTube, because

0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:11.160
<v Speaker 1>she was asked if she filmed breaking the announcement to

0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:13.160
<v Speaker 1>her friends or family, and she said that it felt

0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:15.719
<v Speaker 1>a little bit unnatural to do that. And I kind

0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:18.800
<v Speaker 1>of like that because when I have seen YouTubers in

0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:21.199
<v Speaker 1>the past, you know, setting up the camera and getting

0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:22.840
<v Speaker 1>everyone crying, I don't know, I found it a bit

0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:25.199
<v Speaker 1>cringe because I feel like that's a really personal moment. Yeah,

0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:28.600
<v Speaker 1>it all seems a little bit contrived. It was interesting though,

0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:31.439
<v Speaker 1>hearing that, because she spoke about how she did actually

0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:35.160
<v Speaker 1>film Tommy's response. However, she was saying that she wasn't

0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:37.439
<v Speaker 1>able to film her friends and family's responses because she

0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:39.760
<v Speaker 1>was still coming to terms with the news and couldn't

0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:42.280
<v Speaker 1>actually comprehend what was happening. So I do wonder if

0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:45.079
<v Speaker 1>the pregnancy was a surprise. It sounds like it was.

0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Do we reckon that she was pregnant when they were

0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:50.319
<v Speaker 1>in New York? Was that at the start of the Oh,

0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:52.360
<v Speaker 1>that's probably too long ago. Actually, they've been on so

0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:55.880
<v Speaker 1>many overseas holidays. Because remember there was that really cute

0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:57.719
<v Speaker 1>shot of them in New York where they were just

0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:00.240
<v Speaker 1>kissing and like enjoying each other's company. It was like,

0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.839
<v Speaker 1>is this an engagement announcement? The thing though, that threw

0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:05.160
<v Speaker 1>me off a little bit was that Molly said, so

0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.120
<v Speaker 1>someone asked her, like, when did you find out you

0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:09.240
<v Speaker 1>were pregnant? And she said she was literally one day

0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:11.520
<v Speaker 1>late on her period and decided to take a test,

0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:13.520
<v Speaker 1>and she just happened to have a test in her

0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:16.280
<v Speaker 1>bathroom draw And she said that her period is so

0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:19.000
<v Speaker 1>regular and on point that she thought something was happening,

0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:21.439
<v Speaker 1>but she didn't feel any differently. And that night she

0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:23.720
<v Speaker 1>had to end up going to sleep without telling Tommy

0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:25.679
<v Speaker 1>because she wanted to work out a nice way to

0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:27.880
<v Speaker 1>tell him in the morning. Wow, that would be so tough.

0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:30.880
<v Speaker 1>I usually tell Brandon everything. I feel like I couldn't

0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:33.040
<v Speaker 1>keep news like that. Oh, she couldn't tell if somebody,

0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:35.760
<v Speaker 1>if one of us told you we were pregnant, everybody

0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:38.439
<v Speaker 1>in the world by the next day. You cannot keep

0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:41.600
<v Speaker 1>broaded on the podcast. What I loved was Molly did

0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.719
<v Speaker 1>drop some clues about baby names. So she said that

0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.040
<v Speaker 1>her and Tommy have had names picked out for a

0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:49.599
<v Speaker 1>boy and a girl since the day they met, and

0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:53.040
<v Speaker 1>that they're sticking with them now. I immediately thought of

0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:56.319
<v Speaker 1>the baby challenge on Love Island. Oh yeah, so for

0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:58.760
<v Speaker 1>those who don't watch Love Ireland, every year, the couples

0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:02.280
<v Speaker 1>have to look after a baby doll that cries, sort

0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:05.200
<v Speaker 1>of like a high school experiment, and usually the couples

0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:07.439
<v Speaker 1>will name the baby. So I'm going to throw to

0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:10.760
<v Speaker 1>a clip of the baby names that they spoke about Maine.

0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:16.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go I've always wanted Tommy Tommy Junior TJJ

0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:20.160
<v Speaker 1>little baby TJ. I do call it the name may

0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I mayonnatte for short for mayonnaise. You know his career

0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:30.480
<v Speaker 1>in school. Is he gonna get bored with that? TJA? TJ.

0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:35.280
<v Speaker 1>Surely they're not going to call it Mayo and t J. Well,

0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:38.560
<v Speaker 1>I could more see Tommy Jr's a real name. No,

0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:42.120
<v Speaker 1>she's like Mayo, like mayonnaise. I'm like, surely not. But

0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:44.320
<v Speaker 1>they said, oh, we've been talking about this name from

0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:47.000
<v Speaker 1>the first moment we met. Does anyone remember because they

0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:50.680
<v Speaker 1>met in a hot tub on Love Island. So what

0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:54.000
<v Speaker 1>is everyone predicting they're going to name their baby? Well,

0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:56.400
<v Speaker 1>I think it could be Tommy Jr. If it's a

0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:58.960
<v Speaker 1>boy like that would not surprise me at all. Maybe

0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:02.960
<v Speaker 1>instead of TJ, be PLT. But it seems to be

0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:05.400
<v Speaker 1>a thing in the UK where they will call their

0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:07.960
<v Speaker 1>firstborn son after them because we've been listening to the

0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Sam and Billie Show, who are from Towie, and they're like, oh,

0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:13.640
<v Speaker 1>little Paul and Big Paul, so it will be little Tommy.

0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I feel like maybe little Tommy and little Ellie Belly.

0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah. I think Molly May's daughter may have a

0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:24.800
<v Speaker 1>hyphenated name like her, so maybe it's Mayo something Molly Mayo,

0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Molly Mayo. So we woke up this thorning and George

0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:31.840
<v Speaker 1>is like, oh, my lips sort of feel a little

0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:35.880
<v Speaker 1>bit slilent. Now. Georgie Stevens has shared a rather hilarious

0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:39.960
<v Speaker 1>video of an allergic reaction she had this week. Now

0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.240
<v Speaker 1>I feel really sorry for her, but I've got to

0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:43.920
<v Speaker 1>note that she was laughing about it, so I feel

0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:47.440
<v Speaker 1>like we can have a laugh now. So basically, Georgie

0:15:47.640 --> 0:15:51.120
<v Speaker 1>used to have a childhood allergy to prawn's and she

0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:53.440
<v Speaker 1>thought she'd grown out of it, so she ate them

0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.720
<v Speaker 1>the other night, and she woke up saying to her husband,

0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:59.640
<v Speaker 1>oh my lips feel a bit puffy, and he's filmed

0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:02.160
<v Speaker 1>what she looks like, and let's throw to the clip

0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:17.480
<v Speaker 1>of his reaction to her. She stopped, I'm literally shrinking

0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:26.160
<v Speaker 1>today is the k It's not funny. Oh my gosh,

0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:29.280
<v Speaker 1>did she go to hospital? That's next level? No. So

0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:31.400
<v Speaker 1>the worst part is she was actually meant to be

0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:35.240
<v Speaker 1>a model in a photo shoot for her husband's Sisters

0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:39.240
<v Speaker 1>Swimwear maternity range, so she did give an update saying

0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:41.320
<v Speaker 1>that her lips had gone down. She said it was

0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:43.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of good that she's not complaining because it looks

0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:45.520
<v Speaker 1>like she's had a bit of juicy botox. I remember

0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:47.880
<v Speaker 1>having an allergic reaction at work and I'd eaten some

0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:50.200
<v Speaker 1>pine nuts but I didn't know I was I don't

0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:52.200
<v Speaker 1>even still know if I'm allergic to them. And I

0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:55.160
<v Speaker 1>remember because our uncle's adoptors, so I wrung my uncle

0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:57.600
<v Speaker 1>and he thought I was having a panic attack and

0:16:57.720 --> 0:16:59.880
<v Speaker 1>he was just about to call an ambulance. I'm like, no, no,

0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.720
<v Speaker 1>like it's actually my lips is really it's like, you

0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:05.320
<v Speaker 1>can't take this away from me. You cannot take away

0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:10.800
<v Speaker 1>my happiness, my relationship, my business, my career like you

0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:14.200
<v Speaker 1>just you can. On Wednesday, Caller Daddy dropped its much

0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:18.360
<v Speaker 1>anticipated interview with Hailey Bieber, where she finally addressed long

0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:23.320
<v Speaker 1>standing rumors that Justin Bieber cheated on Selena Gomes with her. So, Amy,

0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.600
<v Speaker 1>let's get straight into those cheating rumors. What was said?

0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:29.359
<v Speaker 1>Because I haven't really kept up to date, I feel

0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:32.280
<v Speaker 1>like this is a sort of jen Z Young Milansia. Yeah,

0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:34.399
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I've never been one to sort of

0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.680
<v Speaker 1>ship the whole Selena and Justin romance. But when you

0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:39.879
<v Speaker 1>actually go back and look at the timeline, it is

0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:42.680
<v Speaker 1>very interesting and you can kind of see why these

0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:45.520
<v Speaker 1>fans were so invested in their relationship. So, just to

0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:48.920
<v Speaker 1>give context, Justin and Selena dated on and off again

0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:51.960
<v Speaker 1>for eight years, So this was between twenty ten and

0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:55.639
<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen. So fans were very quick to stand this

0:17:55.800 --> 0:18:00.080
<v Speaker 1>relationship and they became very heavily invested in it. So

0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:03.919
<v Speaker 1>in late twenty fourteen, Justin and Selena officially broke up

0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:07.280
<v Speaker 1>and Justin began sharing a series of Instagram posts on

0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:11.080
<v Speaker 1>vacation with Hailey, but he claimed they were just friends.

0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:13.720
<v Speaker 1>So I think this is when Selena's fans sort of

0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:17.440
<v Speaker 1>started feeling a bit off about Haley Beeber. So this

0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:19.760
<v Speaker 1>is where all the hate started. Yeah, it's so crazy

0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:22.600
<v Speaker 1>that it was twenty fourteen, a few years ago, I know. So.

0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Then in twenty sixteen, there was a blow up online

0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:28.280
<v Speaker 1>between Justin and Selena. So I do not remember this

0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:31.479
<v Speaker 1>at all, but basically, Justin shared a photo of himself

0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:34.880
<v Speaker 1>with Sophia Richie and fans began to send him hate

0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:37.720
<v Speaker 1>because obviously they wanted him to be with Selena. I

0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:40.520
<v Speaker 1>didn't realize that Sophia Richie was involved in this because

0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:44.160
<v Speaker 1>she also dated Scott Dissick. Yeah. I actually forgot about

0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:47.400
<v Speaker 1>this too. So Justin's threatened fans on Instagram. He said,

0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:49.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to make my Instagram private if you guys

0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:51.960
<v Speaker 1>don't stop the hate. He said, this is getting out

0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:54.120
<v Speaker 1>of hand. If you guys are really fans, you wouldn't

0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:57.119
<v Speaker 1>be so mean to people that I like. Selena then

0:18:57.200 --> 0:18:59.600
<v Speaker 1>weighed in and wrote, if you can't handle the hate,

0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:02.520
<v Speaker 1>then star posting pictures of your girlfriend. Laugh out loud.

0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:05.119
<v Speaker 1>It should be special between you two. Only don't be

0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:07.399
<v Speaker 1>mad at your fans. They love you and supported you

0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:12.080
<v Speaker 1>before anyone ever did good on Selena, Justin responded, it's

0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:14.639
<v Speaker 1>funny to see people that used me for attention and

0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:17.760
<v Speaker 1>still try to point the finger this way. So Selena

0:19:17.840 --> 0:19:20.720
<v Speaker 1>ended up going on Snapchat and apologizing for her comments.

0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:24.359
<v Speaker 1>See after listening to Haley Bieber's interview on Caller Daddy,

0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:27.680
<v Speaker 1>I can see how she would be annoyed by Selena

0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:30.520
<v Speaker 1>almost egging fans on. Well, that's kind of what it

0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:33.080
<v Speaker 1>seems like that she has sort of been fueling the

0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:35.359
<v Speaker 1>fire a little bit with the fans. So just sorry,

0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:38.880
<v Speaker 1>But if you were in that situation and you had

0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:41.359
<v Speaker 1>all these fans behind you, I got to support you,

0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:43.240
<v Speaker 1>would you not lay the boot in slightly when you

0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:45.240
<v Speaker 1>potentially been cheated? Do you know? Do you know what

0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:47.119
<v Speaker 1>her fans are called by the way, You know how

0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:51.679
<v Speaker 1>there's like the believers, yeahs selenaators. Oh that's very late.

0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:54.680
<v Speaker 1>That's not a good one. So just getting back to

0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:58.159
<v Speaker 1>the timeline, Selena then dated The Weekend for ten months

0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:01.800
<v Speaker 1>before she was spotted back with Justin Bieber in twenty seventeen,

0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:05.119
<v Speaker 1>and then fans got really excited because in February of

0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:10.399
<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen, Selena attended Justin's father's wedding in Jamaica, and

0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:13.840
<v Speaker 1>she also shed an Instagram post dedicated to Justin's birthday,

0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:17.560
<v Speaker 1>much so everybody assumed they were back together. Then fast

0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:21.479
<v Speaker 1>forward to July twenty eighteen, and fans were left shocked

0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:25.399
<v Speaker 1>when Haley and Justin announced their engagement. They then married

0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:28.119
<v Speaker 1>in September of that same year. Well, I did not

0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:32.200
<v Speaker 1>realize this was so quick. So four months after Selena

0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:35.919
<v Speaker 1>was at Justin's dad's wedding and wishing him a happy birthday,

0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:38.320
<v Speaker 1>they got engaged and then got married a month later. Yeah,

0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:41.600
<v Speaker 1>and so hell and so Subsequently, all of these Julna

0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:44.760
<v Speaker 1>fans were furious, and they directed all of their anger

0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:48.040
<v Speaker 1>at Haley because obviously she was labeled as a home

0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:51.240
<v Speaker 1>wrecker and they'd spoiled this illusion of this romance between

0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Selena and Justin. It's crazy putting that timeline into perspective,

0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:57.520
<v Speaker 1>because I suppose a lot of us that aren't, you know,

0:20:57.560 --> 0:20:59.920
<v Speaker 1>when you've got lives and aren't completely invested in what's

0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:02.840
<v Speaker 1>going on. I just remember seeing them getting married, and

0:21:03.000 --> 0:21:05.639
<v Speaker 1>they just looked like the most beautiful couple. Like I remember,

0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:07.880
<v Speaker 1>it was just all about Haley and what she looked

0:21:08.000 --> 0:21:10.440
<v Speaker 1>like and that she's just this style like her. So

0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:13.080
<v Speaker 1>let's get into what Hailey said about that time. So

0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:16.159
<v Speaker 1>in the interview with Alex Cooper, she flat out denied

0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:19.560
<v Speaker 1>cheating with Justin. She said, I can say, period, point blank,

0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:21.800
<v Speaker 1>I was never with him when he was in a

0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:25.879
<v Speaker 1>relationship with anybody. That's the end of it. She also

0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:30.000
<v Speaker 1>acknowledged the controversy surrounding the timeline of their engagement, saying,

0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:33.080
<v Speaker 1>I understand how it looked from the outside, and there's

0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:35.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of perception there, but that was a situation

0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:37.680
<v Speaker 1>where I know for a fact that it was the

0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:40.320
<v Speaker 1>right thing for them to close that door. She said.

0:21:41.000 --> 0:21:42.680
<v Speaker 1>I did feel like there was a little bit of

0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:45.640
<v Speaker 1>shade in this interview, because Hailey went on to say

0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:48.639
<v Speaker 1>that she thought Justin's decision to end his relationship with

0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Selena was the most healthy, mature decision he could make.

0:21:51.800 --> 0:21:54.720
<v Speaker 1>The thing is, though, when I saw this interview promoted online,

0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, yes, I just knew that Hailey

0:21:57.880 --> 0:22:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Bieber and Selena Gomans do not like it. So I

0:22:00.560 --> 0:22:03.560
<v Speaker 1>was like, there are going to be some amazing, juicy details,

0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:06.600
<v Speaker 1>but I feel like for the whole interview, firstly, it

0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:09.440
<v Speaker 1>was odd that they never named Selena. They kept her

0:22:09.640 --> 0:22:11.600
<v Speaker 1>and she and Justin's X, which I think was a

0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:14.400
<v Speaker 1>little bit disrespectful. But then again I can also understand

0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:16.440
<v Speaker 1>it because then Selena would come out and be like,

0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:19.920
<v Speaker 1>could you stop using my name and get my name? Hayley? Though,

0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:23.119
<v Speaker 1>can you imagine having this X following you around the

0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:25.520
<v Speaker 1>whole time? I feel like she said a lot without

0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:29.080
<v Speaker 1>saying anything because the fact that she firstly wouldn't name her,

0:22:29.240 --> 0:22:31.159
<v Speaker 1>and then she sort of it was kind of like

0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:34.119
<v Speaker 1>she was threatening things but never actually said them. It

0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:35.720
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, well, I was going to come out

0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:38.160
<v Speaker 1>at this point and say this. I wish I could.

0:22:38.240 --> 0:22:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I wish I could tell the truth about what happened.

0:22:40.200 --> 0:22:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Isn't what this interview about? Please do do you guys? Reckon?

0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:45.680
<v Speaker 1>More was said, but then it had to be cut out. No,

0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:49.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. She seemed she seemed very controlled

0:22:49.960 --> 0:22:51.840
<v Speaker 1>in what she was saying. She came across as very

0:22:51.960 --> 0:22:55.800
<v Speaker 1>intelligent and very well spoken. It was quite clear that

0:22:55.880 --> 0:22:57.919
<v Speaker 1>she had a plan of everything that she was going

0:22:57.960 --> 0:22:59.920
<v Speaker 1>to say. I did think Towards the end, there was

0:23:00.119 --> 0:23:04.040
<v Speaker 1>this segment where Alex was discussing her and Justin's sex life,

0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:06.720
<v Speaker 1>and it seemed almost as if she had a gun

0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:08.560
<v Speaker 1>to her head because she did not want to answer

0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:10.239
<v Speaker 1>any of the questions. She really had to push him.

0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:12.960
<v Speaker 1>She's like, look, I'll say the words and you just

0:23:13.080 --> 0:23:16.399
<v Speaker 1>say yes or no. Wow, because Haley basically said, she's like,

0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:18.800
<v Speaker 1>I feel really cringed talking about this because I know

0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:21.480
<v Speaker 1>my parents are going to listen enough. But for those

0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:24.520
<v Speaker 1>we will summarize what she basically said. She said, if

0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:26.679
<v Speaker 1>Aya wants to know, she said a favorite sex position

0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:30.040
<v Speaker 1>is doggie style. She prefers nighttime sex over morning sex.

0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:32.600
<v Speaker 1>She's not interested in having a threesome. So there we go.

0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:35.960
<v Speaker 1>But that's the thing. She's clever enough to know that

0:23:36.320 --> 0:23:38.760
<v Speaker 1>even if she just says yes to something or one

0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:43.000
<v Speaker 1>word responses, that is going to formulate a huge media article.

0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Which is also why she knew that if she said

0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:49.040
<v Speaker 1>these few comments about Selena Gomez, she would still be

0:23:49.080 --> 0:23:51.280
<v Speaker 1>able to get her point out there by being quite

0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:53.560
<v Speaker 1>measured and controlled in what she said. I don't think

0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:56.520
<v Speaker 1>it particularly looked very good on her, because normally you

0:23:56.560 --> 0:23:59.520
<v Speaker 1>would think that she would use this interview to potentially

0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:02.720
<v Speaker 1>touch on those rumors and the speculation for maybe a

0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:05.639
<v Speaker 1>couple of questions, and then talk about amazing things that

0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:07.639
<v Speaker 1>she's got coming up or things about her life that

0:24:07.720 --> 0:24:10.320
<v Speaker 1>we may not have heard. But literally, I would say

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:14.080
<v Speaker 1>eighty percent of the interview was just about Selena going

0:24:14.200 --> 0:24:15.800
<v Speaker 1>that's what everyone want it. But I feel like it

0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:18.720
<v Speaker 1>was almost a pr effort because I feel like she's

0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:21.879
<v Speaker 1>copying so much hate even now, so four years on

0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:25.600
<v Speaker 1>from this, from their marriage, she's copying hate from Selena.

0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:27.960
<v Speaker 1>So this going to do is just, you know, make

0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:30.400
<v Speaker 1>more happy. Well, there's so much controversy at the moment

0:24:30.480 --> 0:24:33.480
<v Speaker 1>surrounding her skincare brand because there's been threats of her

0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:36.000
<v Speaker 1>being sued for having the same name as another business,

0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:39.160
<v Speaker 1>and also people are comparing her skincare brand to Millie

0:24:39.160 --> 0:24:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Bobby Brown and saying it's very similar. So maybe she's

0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:43.359
<v Speaker 1>trying to move people away from that and get some

0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:46.399
<v Speaker 1>sympathy around how her mental health was affected by the

0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:48.560
<v Speaker 1>whole ordeal. Yeah, Well, she did talk about her mental

0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:51.480
<v Speaker 1>health and reading between the lines, she did state that

0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:54.320
<v Speaker 1>she was a little bit suicidal, But then I kind

0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:56.560
<v Speaker 1>of was confused I don't know how you've felt about this, guys,

0:24:56.560 --> 0:24:59.399
<v Speaker 1>but she was talking about how she tells herself that

0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 1>there are people way worse off than her. But then

0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:05.000
<v Speaker 1>she said she was working with her psychologists to allow

0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:08.920
<v Speaker 1>her to actually say that she can feel bad. I mean,

0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I know what she meant, because people would look at

0:25:11.560 --> 0:25:13.560
<v Speaker 1>her life and go, You've got everything, What the hell

0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:15.480
<v Speaker 1>are you complaining about? So I feel like that was

0:25:15.520 --> 0:25:17.560
<v Speaker 1>an internal struggle for her to go, well, I am

0:25:17.680 --> 0:25:20.000
<v Speaker 1>feeling shit, and I am allowed to feel shit, regardless

0:25:20.040 --> 0:25:22.400
<v Speaker 1>of how privileged I am. What I found interesting, though,

0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:25.320
<v Speaker 1>was she said she had spoken to her therapist about

0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:28.960
<v Speaker 1>feeling like she's been constantly compared to others, and obviously

0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:32.359
<v Speaker 1>that stemming from constantly being compared to Selena Gomez, and

0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:35.359
<v Speaker 1>she said she had this instinctive feeling of wanting to

0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:37.600
<v Speaker 1>be liked by people. You know what's crazy to me

0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:40.480
<v Speaker 1>because from someone that is not a stan of any

0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:43.800
<v Speaker 1>of these people, I just think that so many people

0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:45.920
<v Speaker 1>are trying to be like Hailey be But like I've

0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:50.320
<v Speaker 1>seen so many people with those like frosted donut fingernails,

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Like I want them, blazed nails. I want them just

0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:55.280
<v Speaker 1>because She's got them, the boyfriend blazer, you know, the

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:58.720
<v Speaker 1>fashion her very itick girl. Yeah, she's the total it

0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:02.439
<v Speaker 1>girl and so iron that she thinks that people are

0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:04.960
<v Speaker 1>comparing her to say Selena Gomez, where I think she

0:26:05.280 --> 0:26:07.680
<v Speaker 1>is just an absolute icon at the moment. I feel

0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:10.040
<v Speaker 1>like it's no one really talks much about Selena Gomes

0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:12.440
<v Speaker 1>other than a stand to compare them both to compare,

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:14.240
<v Speaker 1>they both say one's better than the other. But it's

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:16.520
<v Speaker 1>quite ironic that I feel like she is the girl

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:18.399
<v Speaker 1>of the moment and she's feeling like that. Do you

0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:19.760
<v Speaker 1>know what I think it is. I think it's this

0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:23.800
<v Speaker 1>subculture of the Internet where there were these believers and

0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:27.520
<v Speaker 1>these Seleninators who are coming together, and you know, for example,

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:30.639
<v Speaker 1>on TikTok, I often see these videos that these obsessive

0:26:30.720 --> 0:26:34.160
<v Speaker 1>fans make where they've really romanticize something. So whether it's

0:26:34.160 --> 0:26:36.960
<v Speaker 1>a TV show in this case, it's obviously Justin and Selena,

0:26:37.359 --> 0:26:40.880
<v Speaker 1>and they're so fixated on these people coming back together,

0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:44.000
<v Speaker 1>and it's just based on this perception that they had

0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:46.320
<v Speaker 1>this perfect relationship and they should be together. But they

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:49.879
<v Speaker 1>won't acknowledge that it's now Justin and Hayley. They think

0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:51.960
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of teens because they don't perhaps have

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:54.440
<v Speaker 1>for their own relationship, so they lived through these companies.

0:26:54.440 --> 0:26:56.639
<v Speaker 1>But they wouldn't be teens because they've been dating for

0:26:57.000 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 1>since twenty ten. These are like people in their thirds

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:06.760
<v Speaker 1>is little Walnut. Influencer and sleepwear entrepreneur Lily Brown has

0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:09.520
<v Speaker 1>soft launched a new romance that's been brewing since her

0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 1>infamous trip to Balley. Lily and fellow influencer m Davies

0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:15.800
<v Speaker 1>caused a stir when they ask followers whether they would

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:19.520
<v Speaker 1>regret eating a weed brownie before boarding their flight. So

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:22.920
<v Speaker 1>who is Lily Brown's new love interest. Well, it's this

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:26.400
<v Speaker 1>guy called Christian House. So he's a micro influencer. He's

0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 1>got about fourteen thousand followers and he's twenty two years old.

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:32.400
<v Speaker 1>He is from the Gold Coast, which is where Lily

0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Brown lives. And funnily enough, she was talking about for

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:38.199
<v Speaker 1>ages how she wanted to move to Sydney, but now

0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:40.879
<v Speaker 1>she is staying put in the Gold Coast. Punny and

0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:43.760
<v Speaker 1>this guy, Christian, he is pretty hot. He's clearly a

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:46.000
<v Speaker 1>gym guy. He's a bit of a party boy and

0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 1>he spends most of his time in Balley. And he's

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 1>one of those guys who makes a lot of TikTok

0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:56.760
<v Speaker 1>content about being single and having one night stands. Really yeah,

0:27:56.960 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 1>it kind of it's that content where it's like, oh, yeah,

0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:02.359
<v Speaker 1>he a bit of a lad. You're like like biting

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:05.440
<v Speaker 1>his lip and kind of yeah, very player vibes. I

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:07.520
<v Speaker 1>mean it is too Yeah, I was gonna say he's

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:09.960
<v Speaker 1>twenty two, So I think that's why. And from having

0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:12.040
<v Speaker 1>a bit of a stalk, it is pretty clear that

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:15.480
<v Speaker 1>the pair knew each other before Lily's recent trip, as

0:28:15.560 --> 0:28:18.159
<v Speaker 1>she has been liking a lot of his photos for

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:21.920
<v Speaker 1>months now. So back in July, Christian uploaded a shirtless

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:24.680
<v Speaker 1>photo with his six pack on display with the caption

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:28.080
<v Speaker 1>shout out to Jenny Craig, to which Lily Brown commented,

0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:32.160
<v Speaker 1>love you work, Jenny. And it seems like Lily's recent

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 1>trip to Bali has really brought them closer together. So

0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:37.879
<v Speaker 1>she has been traveling to Bali to deal with her

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:41.160
<v Speaker 1>suppliers for her pajama line Chili, also having a holiday

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:43.960
<v Speaker 1>with m Davies and having some weird browning. That's right,

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:45.840
<v Speaker 1>and it seems like she will be going back and

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:48.960
<v Speaker 1>forth for a bit of work, so Christian appears to

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 1>currently be living in Bali. He has been there for

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:54.160
<v Speaker 1>months on end. So I'm not sure what the plans

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 1>are for the two of them, if they're doing long

0:28:56.240 --> 0:28:58.760
<v Speaker 1>distance or it might just be a fling, like it

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 1>might just be a holiday work. Well, I don't know

0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:03.600
<v Speaker 1>because she's been soft launching this new relationship on a

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:06.960
<v Speaker 1>number of different platforms. So I first noticed him pop

0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 1>up on her Instagram stories while she was staying in Bali.

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Then last week she posted two videos to TikTok where

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 1>they're doing a Bali mook bung, and it's very clear

0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:19.920
<v Speaker 1>that the two of them do have chemistry in a

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:22.520
<v Speaker 1>YouTube video to know, they're in a TikTok video of

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:25.320
<v Speaker 1>a hook bung, so she tagged him in it as well.

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:28.120
<v Speaker 1>So in the video, they're being very playful. He's like

0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:31.480
<v Speaker 1>trying to flick insects at her and scare her. And

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 1>there was this moment in the video where they were

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 1>trying this walnut milk as a bit of a laugh

0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:39.480
<v Speaker 1>and Lily remarked, oh, nut milk, and then they both

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 1>smirked at each other and he kind of gave the

0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 1>camera the eyes. I mean, I felt really uncomfortable, you know,

0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 1>when you're watching two people flirt and it's just like

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm a thirty three year old woman watching somebody talk

0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:52.720
<v Speaker 1>about nut milk on TikTok. Well, under the I think

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 1>everyone picked up on the fact that there's something going on.

0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 1>So some of the followers wrote cuties, to which she liked.

0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Someone else wrote he's cute little, and Lily responded, don't

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 1>give him a bigger head. Well, that's nice for her,

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 1>isn't it, though, Yes, just like her other relationships she

0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 1>had to keep offline. It's more entertaining for the rest

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 1>of us, isn't it. It is interesting that this guy

0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 1>is a micro influencer and happy to be in her videos,

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 1>because that's not we've seen from Lily's relationships in the past.

0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:19.080
<v Speaker 1>I think as the last two boyfriends haven't wanted to

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 1>appear online, and I feel like perhaps that hasn't really

0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 1>been right for Lily. Yeah. Well, this guy hasn't actually

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 1>shared about her yet, but he has been very vocal

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 1>in the comment section because under these mukbun posts, he

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 1>wrote miss this though, and then she wrote Samesi's and

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:38.080
<v Speaker 1>did a little butterfly emoji, and then yesterday she took

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:41.240
<v Speaker 1>it even further with the soft launch. She uploaded a

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 1>photo dump of pictures and captioned it. Stories saw most

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 1>of it first, so there was a little hint that

0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:50.720
<v Speaker 1>maybe she talked more about him on her stories. But

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:53.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, in this photo dump there was all these

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 1>different images of like her nails and just pictures of her,

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 1>and then at the end there was a FaceTime photo

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 1>of him sticking his tar. Oh. I love how she

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 1>leaves it to the last few. Yeah. The Instagram dump

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 1>is really clever, isn't it, Because if she uploaded just

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 1>one photo of him, it looks like, you know, it's

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:12.760
<v Speaker 1>more serious. I love the photos that people choose to

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 1>put the Instagram dump when the main one is just

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 1>to soft launch the relationship, as you said, like pictures

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 1>of food and now. I was like, yeah, no one cares,

0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah whatever, Lo where's the boy? And I'm like just

0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 1>so feeling so fucking happy right now, Like I've got

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 1>my dogs, I've got my kids. A week on from

0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Sky Wheatley and Michael Finch's public falling out, the pair

0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 1>have been posting subliminal quotes directed at one another. So

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I can you bring us up to speed? Yeah, we'll

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:41.760
<v Speaker 1>just to refresh everyone's memories. Last week, we did break

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 1>the news that Sky Wheatley made controversial comments about OnlyFans creators,

0:31:46.480 --> 0:31:50.920
<v Speaker 1>which were aired on Michael Finch's vlog. So initially, instead

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 1>of apologizing, Sky tried to shift the blame to Michael

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 1>for posting the content and said that it was never

0:31:57.160 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 1>meant to be shared. She said, I'm so upset it's

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 1>been post still on line. This was out of my control.

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I was having a conversation with a so called friend

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 1>out of anger. Shocked it's been posted to be honest,

0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:11.640
<v Speaker 1>trust no one. So since then, she did speak to

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 1>So Dramatic and apologize for the comments, but she hasn't

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 1>issued a formal apology on her own platform. It seems

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:21.800
<v Speaker 1>like she's trying to shut down any further publicity around

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 1>the comment. It's a weird PR strategy talking to So

0:32:24.800 --> 0:32:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Dramatic but then not addressing it on her own channel.

0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Like I feel like, if you're a public figure, you

0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:33.640
<v Speaker 1>owe it to your fans to actually apologize or at

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 1>the very least acknowledge the wrong thing that you've done.

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's actually clever of her though, because

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:42.440
<v Speaker 1>you know she's not not everyone would have heard about it.

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 1>And also she's sort of pushed all the attention towards

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 1>this friendship breakdown, so everyone's talking about the friendship breakdown

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:51.360
<v Speaker 1>as opposed to the offensive comment she said. So she

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:53.480
<v Speaker 1>did do a Q and A and a follower wrote

0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 1>to Sky saying miss you and Michael already, and she

0:32:57.200 --> 0:33:00.600
<v Speaker 1>responded by sharing a photo of Forest look upset and

0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:03.080
<v Speaker 1>then did a sad face and a broken heart emoji.

0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 1>So it's interesting that some of her followers are picking

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 1>up on this friendship breakdown, but she hasn't actually addressed

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:09.479
<v Speaker 1>it yet. It's not why used to hang out all

0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:13.160
<v Speaker 1>the time they did. They were on results yeah a bit,

0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:15.720
<v Speaker 1>but like not every day or anything. It's clear that

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:18.520
<v Speaker 1>people know what's going on. Yeah. Well, she followed up

0:33:18.640 --> 0:33:21.080
<v Speaker 1>that with also a quote. So she shared a quote

0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:24.560
<v Speaker 1>on her Instagram story saying there's a certain disrespect that

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 1>an apology or explanation doesn't fix. So she's trying to

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:32.160
<v Speaker 1>clearly push it that Michael has apologized to her, acting

0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 1>like he's in the wrong. Well, Michael followed it up

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:36.760
<v Speaker 1>the next day by sharing the quote I can respect

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 1>a bad decision, but I can't respect a liar, and

0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:42.840
<v Speaker 1>he accompanied it with the caption peace out girl scout.

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 1>I know it seems immature to be posting quotes directed

0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:48.920
<v Speaker 1>at people. It seems very like MSN days when you

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:51.080
<v Speaker 1>put a song lyric, But I love it. To me,

0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:54.160
<v Speaker 1>it seems more like twenty sixteen when people would just

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:57.680
<v Speaker 1>share these passive aggressive quotes on Facebook. I like it though,

0:33:57.840 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 1>because I don't know I like it without saying it. Yeah,

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to like read into it. They just said

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:05.840
<v Speaker 1>it for her if they go on this story and

0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 1>just say I like, Michael's too clever for that, you know,

0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:10.440
<v Speaker 1>when you really want to put something up passive aggressive.

0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 1>I love actually looking through the quotes. You're like, yeah,

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:14.719
<v Speaker 1>that that really was. It wasn't funny when you go

0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:16.880
<v Speaker 1>through your camera roll and you realize what moment of

0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 1>time you're in your life and you're like, what's all

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:21.000
<v Speaker 1>this stuff. There's all these sex in the city quotes

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:24.120
<v Speaker 1>with this, Well, that's right, heartbreak. I have been keeping

0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:26.480
<v Speaker 1>an eye on Michael's content this week, and he has

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:29.520
<v Speaker 1>been hanging out a lot with his og influence of friends,

0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:32.720
<v Speaker 1>and they appear to be siding with him. So Shannie

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 1>and Michael seemed to be getting a lot closer, and

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Shanny did share some banter that she had with Michael

0:34:38.160 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 1>over text message about a funny photo she sent him,

0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:44.239
<v Speaker 1>and also it was funny because she focused on the

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:46.720
<v Speaker 1>fact that you know when you add a little photo,

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:48.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, when people ring you, you can add the

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:52.320
<v Speaker 1>little profile picture. So her photo was this total flashback.

0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:54.760
<v Speaker 1>It was one of Michael Finch's first ever photo shoots,

0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 1>so he looked like a completely different person. And he

0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:00.719
<v Speaker 1>re shared the photo and was like, Wow, playing this

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:03.400
<v Speaker 1>game again, Shiny. That was my first ever photo shoot,

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:04.799
<v Speaker 1>by the way, So I don't know, it just reminds

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 1>me of old times. And they were also seen hanging

0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:10.560
<v Speaker 1>out together at a recent brand event where Lily Brown

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 1>was also there. So it seems like the gangs all

0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:16.440
<v Speaker 1>back to the sides. The sides have been picked, haven't they. Yeah. Well,

0:35:16.480 --> 0:35:17.719
<v Speaker 1>the thing is, it seems like a bit of a

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:20.239
<v Speaker 1>fuck you to Sky because I feel like Michael was

0:35:20.280 --> 0:35:22.600
<v Speaker 1>the only one out of that group that actually liked

0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:26.360
<v Speaker 1>Sky or tolerated her. I feel exhausted. I feel like

0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 1>we've unleashed a lot of goss today and I think

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:31.440
<v Speaker 1>that's all we have today. As I said if anyone

0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:34.000
<v Speaker 1>has any juicy information they want to send us, our

0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 1>DM's always open now. This podcast was recorded on the

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 1>traditional land of the Garner people of the Adelaide Planes.

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:43.160
<v Speaker 1>We pay respect to elders past and present, and if

0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:45.440
<v Speaker 1>you want to join in on all the conversations, please

0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:47.680
<v Speaker 1>head over to our Facebook group which has outspoken the

0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 1>podcast community. And also if you haven't already, please leave

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:53.680
<v Speaker 1>us a review if you love the podcast, and make

0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:57.200
<v Speaker 1>sure you are subscribed on Apple Podcasts and also Spotify

0:35:57.239 --> 0:36:02.880
<v Speaker 1>and seven