Speaker 1: On today's show, Lily Brown soft launches her new man,
Speaker 1: Michael Finch breaks silence on friendship, breakdown with Sky Wheatley,
Speaker 1: Molly May gives baby name clues, and the much anticipated
Speaker 1: Haley Beaber interview. Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your
Speaker 1: dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture news twice
Speaker 1: a week. I'm Kate Torbert and I've just finished penning
Speaker 1: a very angry etow. So, for those who have been
Speaker 1: following along at home, I am going through a bit
Speaker 1: of a skin journey where I'm trying to get rid
Speaker 1: of my pigmentation, and I have gone through this whole
Speaker 1: course of chemical pill treatments only to find out from
Speaker 1: my new dermatologists that I should never have been recommended
Speaker 1: to them. Basically, you found out that they're a load
Speaker 1: of shit for what you need done. Yeah, my dermatologists
Speaker 1: is like, well, your freckles are actually a lot deeper
Speaker 1: and there's no way any chemical pill is going to
Speaker 1: lift them. You need ipl laser And that is what
Speaker 1: I actually went in and asked this skin clinic for.
Speaker 1: In the first place, I think where you went wrong
Speaker 1: was not going to a dermatologist first. So that's really
Speaker 1: a bit of a tiar for the listeners. Well, I
Speaker 1: thought they were dermatologists. They touted themselves as having doctors
Speaker 1: and nurses on board. But yeah, I highly recommend going
Speaker 1: to a dermatologist. I also got my skin check and
Speaker 1: it was all good. So again, just a reminder for
Speaker 1: everyone to do the same. So, Kate, will we see
Speaker 1: updates after you've been lazer? Because I watched a vlog
Speaker 1: the other day and Sophie and I have had laser ourselves.
Speaker 1: It's extreme. I kind of want to follow altiating pain.
Speaker 1: That's probably the worst thing I've ever done in my
Speaker 1: whole life. It depends if there's good results. Maybe I'll
Speaker 1: share it once. They have really nice quiz. But it's
Speaker 1: a bit different now, isn't it. They've kind of modernized
Speaker 1: the process because Amy and I had it done probably
Speaker 1: five years ago, and we didn't have any numbing cream
Speaker 1: and we came out we looked horrendous. Did well, I'll
Speaker 1: keep you guys updated. I think it is still going
Speaker 1: to be painful. Well, I'm Amy Torbert and I've got
Speaker 1: a painful experience of my own coming up over the weekend.
Speaker 1: Because Dale and I have stupidly organized our engagement party
Speaker 1: at our house, and there is so much to do. Again,
Speaker 1: it's not this weekend though, No, no it's not. But
Speaker 1: the whole backyard needs to like the pergola needs to
Speaker 1: be pained, said, there's so much that needs to be done.
Speaker 1: I don't mean to be I told you so again,
Speaker 1: but we did point out that it might be a
Speaker 1: bit difficult and a bit of a quick time frame
Speaker 1: to move around. Dale and I are literally the same person.
Speaker 1: We thrive off this kind of time. You need the pressure.
Speaker 1: You're a little bit both disorganized and you have these
Speaker 1: big hopes but not really the skills to execute them.
Speaker 1: Because my Hen's party is the first weekend of November,
Speaker 1: We've got you've got a work thing on the following weekend,
Speaker 1: and then that weekend then is your engagement part. I
Speaker 1: know that's my I'm going to be where. It's a
Speaker 1: long weekend, so I'm going to be in that backyard.
Speaker 1: We're also going to be painting the kitchen. There's so
Speaker 1: much going on. Do you really need to paint the kitchen? Like?
Speaker 1: I think you need a prioritize focus on the stupidest stuff.
Speaker 1: I mean, I came over and you've got these boxes
Speaker 1: of Christmas lights ready for to deck out the backyard
Speaker 1: for the party, and it's like, I don't think that's
Speaker 1: a number one priority. My theme is white and gold. Okay,
Speaker 1: so if you need any help, let us know. I
Speaker 1: just feel like if you have a backyard and maybe
Speaker 1: it doesn't look amazing, if you've got gold lights every day,
Speaker 1: I think we've got as dark as well. Can had
Speaker 1: a lot of things. Well, I'm Sophie Tilbert and I'm
Speaker 1: also planning my engagement party, but I don't want to
Speaker 1: be rushed off my feet that day, so I've booked
Speaker 1: in a venue by the beach, and I think I'm
Speaker 1: doing the complete opposite to you, Amy. I think it'd
Speaker 1: be much more children. I was the most low key
Speaker 1: because I didn't have any party because I got proposed
Speaker 1: to at our housewarming, so rees said that was an
Speaker 1: engagement party, which it wasn't. But maybe we'll have to
Speaker 1: do a real on your engagement party and then a
Speaker 1: reeal on mine and ask the listeners which one they
Speaker 1: would have preferred to have gone. I do want some
Speaker 1: help from the listeners though, because I only found out
Speaker 1: about my location, which is a surf lifesaving club because
Speaker 1: I saw this Adelaide influencer having her engagement party. Were influenced. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was influenced. And it's funny. I said to the
Speaker 1: guy I saw on this girl's page. He's like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, We've had so many requests her. But when
Speaker 1: I stepped inside the venue, I was like, this looks
Speaker 1: completely different because she had this really cool curtain set
Speaker 1: up over all. You know, surf life saving clubs, how
Speaker 1: to have all the awards up. You don't really want
Speaker 1: that one. I'm trying to look for some curtains, but
Speaker 1: I don't know where to get them from because someone
Speaker 1: sent me through some suggestion she would have hired them. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: she hired them. But I'm so lost it, you know,
Speaker 1: because there's sheer ones. There's just so many to pick from.
Speaker 1: It if anyone's planned an engagement party and has them.
Speaker 1: I was tempted to reach out to this girl, but
Speaker 1: I'm not going to and I would appreciate if you
Speaker 1: guys respect both of our privacy, But basically, yes, I
Speaker 1: am single right now. So this week, a very juicy
Speaker 1: DM dropped into our inbox. So one of our listeners
Speaker 1: has reached out and they said that they spotted former
Speaker 1: couple Madison Wooley and Jonathan sour out having dinner together. Now,
Speaker 1: this lovely listener sent us photo as proof. So she
Speaker 1: actually went up to the couple and we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: can I have a photo with you? Guys? The couple. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're getting ahead of yourself. Former couple. Well, it seems
Speaker 1: like things are back on together. So this was on
Speaker 1: the eleventh of September, and apparently they had been out
Speaker 1: to a rugby match together, and we're having dinner and
Speaker 1: drinks at a pub and they see very couple. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I can't imagine Madison Woolly just going out with a
Speaker 1: friend to a rugby match. You only go to a
Speaker 1: boring sporting match like that with the guy your ex boyfriend. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not just today. There's obviously some history going on.
Speaker 1: I would actually like to see these two back together.
Speaker 1: I want to see more content with them. I want
Speaker 1: to see their vlogs. I think they're stronger together. I
Speaker 1: think they're more of a brand together. So just for
Speaker 1: a little bit of a timeline, Madison announced that she
Speaker 1: had broken up with Jonathan back in July twenty twenty one. Now,
Speaker 1: she made this announcement just before Sydney and New South
Speaker 1: Wales went into a big lockdown, which seems like it
Speaker 1: would have been a bit of a mistake to break
Speaker 1: up with your boyfriend then, and it seemed like the
Speaker 1: couple were very on and off for quite a while.
Speaker 1: I think they kind of ended things. That appears early
Speaker 1: this year. Who could forget our episode on the Man
Speaker 1: in the Mirror exactly. There were a lot of clues
Speaker 1: that these two were together. So I'm wondering if they're
Speaker 1: going to start dropping clues now. Yea, because they were
Speaker 1: caught together, as you say, Amy, during lockdown. So Jonathan
Speaker 1: was in the whilst Madison was making two cocktails for
Speaker 1: the two of them to enjoy whilst they were stuck inside.
Speaker 1: But what about this Sky Moody because he was rumored
Speaker 1: to be dating Sky. And remember in an episode of
Speaker 1: Madison's podcast, Girl Coach, she spoke about running into Jonathan
Speaker 1: whilst he was on a date just before she went
Speaker 1: away to Europe. Yeah, so Jonathan and Sky did seem
Speaker 1: like they were a bit of a couple. So he
Speaker 1: lives in Sydney and Sky lives in Queensland, so he
Speaker 1: went across for the weekend, and they were sharing pictures
Speaker 1: out and about. On this sort of date day, they
Speaker 1: went to an adventure park and they went on a
Speaker 1: helicopter ride, so it seemed like things were looking pretty
Speaker 1: good for them. They also went to the Stacks event
Speaker 1: together because they were spotted in the second row. But
Speaker 1: I think it was SOFIDFA accidentally exposed them there together
Speaker 1: because they didn't share that they were together. They've actually
Speaker 1: they've already done the little soft launch thing. They haven't
Speaker 1: appeared in one another's feeds. Yeah, so things seem to
Speaker 1: be pretty good between those guys. However, when you have
Speaker 1: a look through Sky's Instagram feed, Jonathan hasn't liked her
Speaker 1: photos since all August thirtieth, and then she shared a
Speaker 1: very telling post on the third of September. So she
Speaker 1: was wearing this black leotard and she wrote the caption
Speaker 1: more than you Can Handle with a black flag emoji.
Speaker 1: Now I had to look at Jonathan's page and Sky
Speaker 1: hadn't liked anything since the sixth of September, which kind
Speaker 1: of fits this timeline of him seeing Madison out. On
Speaker 1: the eleventh of September, however, she threw a spanner in
Speaker 1: the works and has confused me because Sky liked one
Speaker 1: of Jonathan's most recent reels and in the real he
Speaker 1: is sipping on champagne having lunch at a winery with
Speaker 1: the caption out of office for the weekend, and this
Speaker 1: post has Madison wooly all over it, and I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure she is eating with him. So if Sky maybe
Speaker 1: liking the post to be like, fuck you, I know
Speaker 1: what's going on? Or is she a blieveing blissfully unaware,
Speaker 1: because I feel like this is taking a bit of
Speaker 1: detective work and a bit of sleuth's coming into the DM.
Speaker 1: She might not know what's going on. If she's living
Speaker 1: in Brisbane, it might be. I don't really feel like
Speaker 1: her and Jonathan were officially an item. I feel like
Speaker 1: it was a bit of a fight. You can tell
Speaker 1: things are on the rocks when people aren't liking each
Speaker 1: other's photos, and previously they'd been liking every other post.
Speaker 1: Another interesting element is that Madison and Jonathan aren't following
Speaker 1: each other on Instagram. I feel like Madison's the sort
Speaker 1: of person that would have seen Jonathan with a new
Speaker 1: love interest and gone I want him back, because we
Speaker 1: know she's the one who broke up with him. Well,
Speaker 1: people always look better when they're with someone else, and
Speaker 1: she saw him as you said earlier, right before she
Speaker 1: went to Europe, and after listening to her recount of
Speaker 1: her European holiday, because she had pumped it up as
Speaker 1: I'm going to hook up with all the hot guys overseas,
Speaker 1: one she either was missing Jonathan and regretting her decision,
Speaker 1: or two realized that maybe there aren't better guys out there,
Speaker 1: because she's seen pretty disappointed with the lack of talent
Speaker 1: that was available on this European holiday. The thing that
Speaker 1: will be tough for Madison to come back from is
Speaker 1: the fact that she has shitcanned him on her podcast
Speaker 1: because she didn't fully go into a lot of details,
Speaker 1: but there's been a lot of oh my ex did this,
Speaker 1: and my ex did that. It's kind of like when
Speaker 1: you slag your ex off to a friend and then
Speaker 1: you have to admit, oh, actually, I've taken him back.
Speaker 1: I don't think Caitlyn will be happy, because Caitlyn sounds
Speaker 1: like she hates his guys well. Talking about Caitlin recently
Speaker 1: on their podcast Girl Code, Madison has been talking about
Speaker 1: how she's actually been on a date with one of
Speaker 1: Caitlyn's partner's friends. So I wonder how that is all
Speaker 1: gonna work, because again, there was a time when Madison
Speaker 1: was talking a lot about this roster of guys that
Speaker 1: she'd put together, But once she was back to Europe,
Speaker 1: she was saying that she wasn't dating anymore and focusing
Speaker 1: on herself. So I feel like there's something fishy going on.
Speaker 1: She's also heading to America soon, and she's been talking
Speaker 1: about is it not mister Bottles of Smiths, mister La
Speaker 1: that she's meeting up with, so clearly from Rayah, of course.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I wonder how that will go because it'd
Speaker 1: be tough trying to get back together from a fractured relationship.
Speaker 1: I mean, they broke up probably three or four times already.
Speaker 1: Tell me if I'm wrong. Didn't she get a trip
Speaker 1: for Jonathan or something for his birthday to America? Maybe? Oh,
Speaker 1: maybe they've reid something so maybe someone to travel with.
Speaker 1: Maybe they were both still planning on using the tickets
Speaker 1: or something. So she's going to go cup with mister
Speaker 1: La while she's on a trip with her ex boyfriend,
Speaker 1: though only time will tell. I feel like we won't
Speaker 1: be hearing about what's actually going on until probably six
Speaker 1: months after it's happened. Though, on the podcast, this has
Speaker 1: got a lot of Sammy Robinson Jordan vibes happening because
Speaker 1: remember they kept getting spotted out and none of them
Speaker 1: would say, actually what was going on. So if any
Speaker 1: other listeners have any juicy details for us, send them in.
Speaker 1: We are now back from our day out. I've had
Speaker 1: a quick shower. I've also had a little nap Whilst
Speaker 1: they were Zoe, Danny an Tommy. They went to the
Speaker 1: gym and I and trained, and obviously I stayed on
Speaker 1: the bed eating chocolate biscuits and watching a film. Obviously,
Speaker 1: then I fell asleep for an hour as well. It
Speaker 1: was just really just what I needed. Since announcing her
Speaker 1: pregnancy on Sunday, Molly may Haig has revealed more baby news.
Speaker 1: After hiding her baby bump for over five months, the
Speaker 1: former Love Islander is ready to share her pregnancy journey
Speaker 1: with her followers. Kay what do we know so far? Well,
Speaker 1: Molly was kind enough to put up a Q and
Speaker 1: a box on her Insta story and said she was
Speaker 1: going to answer a whole bunch of questions in a
Speaker 1: new YouTube video. However, she gave fans what they were
Speaker 1: looking for and answered a couple of the questions. So
Speaker 1: someone asked Molly if it's been hard to hide her pregnancy,
Speaker 1: and she said, strangely, it wasn't. So her aim was
Speaker 1: to hide it for five months, and she said that
Speaker 1: she was able to exceed that five months, so I'm
Speaker 1: guessing she's around the sixth month mark now. Someone asked
Speaker 1: also if they have done any baby shopping, and I
Speaker 1: thought it was quite cute. Molly was saying that they've
Speaker 1: really wanted to, but of course if they get spotted
Speaker 1: in a baby section by the paparazzi, there's going to
Speaker 1: be heaps of stories about it. So she said that
Speaker 1: her and Tommy have sort of snuck into the baby
Speaker 1: section and have loudly talked about, oh, we're getting this
Speaker 1: for your cousin's baby shower, just so they can have
Speaker 1: a look at what's around now. Molly also said that
Speaker 1: she's been lucky that she hasn't had any sickness during
Speaker 1: her pregnancy. She said she had a little bit of nausea, however,
Speaker 1: during her first homester she was able to fix this
Speaker 1: by just having a lot of snacks and meals. That's
Speaker 1: probably why she's been able to keep it a secret
Speaker 1: for so long, though, because if you look at Martha Callifetita,
Speaker 1: I'm sure they would have wanted to keep that secret
Speaker 1: for a bit longer. I did find her approach to
Speaker 1: the pregnancy quite interesting in regards of her YouTube, because
Speaker 1: she was asked if she filmed breaking the announcement to
Speaker 1: her friends or family, and she said that it felt
Speaker 1: a little bit unnatural to do that. And I kind
Speaker 1: of like that because when I have seen YouTubers in
Speaker 1: the past, you know, setting up the camera and getting
Speaker 1: everyone crying, I don't know, I found it a bit
Speaker 1: cringe because I feel like that's a really personal moment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it all seems a little bit contrived. It was interesting though,
Speaker 1: hearing that, because she spoke about how she did actually
Speaker 1: film Tommy's response. However, she was saying that she wasn't
Speaker 1: able to film her friends and family's responses because she
Speaker 1: was still coming to terms with the news and couldn't
Speaker 1: actually comprehend what was happening. So I do wonder if
Speaker 1: the pregnancy was a surprise. It sounds like it was.
Speaker 1: Do we reckon that she was pregnant when they were
Speaker 1: in New York? Was that at the start of the Oh,
Speaker 1: that's probably too long ago. Actually, they've been on so
Speaker 1: many overseas holidays. Because remember there was that really cute
Speaker 1: shot of them in New York where they were just
Speaker 1: kissing and like enjoying each other's company. It was like,
Speaker 1: is this an engagement announcement? The thing though, that threw
Speaker 1: me off a little bit was that Molly said, so
Speaker 1: someone asked her, like, when did you find out you
Speaker 1: were pregnant? And she said she was literally one day
Speaker 1: late on her period and decided to take a test,
Speaker 1: and she just happened to have a test in her
Speaker 1: bathroom draw And she said that her period is so
Speaker 1: regular and on point that she thought something was happening,
Speaker 1: but she didn't feel any differently. And that night she
Speaker 1: had to end up going to sleep without telling Tommy
Speaker 1: because she wanted to work out a nice way to
Speaker 1: tell him in the morning. Wow, that would be so tough.
Speaker 1: I usually tell Brandon everything. I feel like I couldn't
Speaker 1: keep news like that. Oh, she couldn't tell if somebody,
Speaker 1: if one of us told you we were pregnant, everybody
Speaker 1: in the world by the next day. You cannot keep
Speaker 1: broaded on the podcast. What I loved was Molly did
Speaker 1: drop some clues about baby names. So she said that
Speaker 1: her and Tommy have had names picked out for a
Speaker 1: boy and a girl since the day they met, and
Speaker 1: that they're sticking with them now. I immediately thought of
Speaker 1: the baby challenge on Love Island. Oh yeah, so for
Speaker 1: those who don't watch Love Ireland, every year, the couples
Speaker 1: have to look after a baby doll that cries, sort
Speaker 1: of like a high school experiment, and usually the couples
Speaker 1: will name the baby. So I'm going to throw to
Speaker 1: a clip of the baby names that they spoke about Maine.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go I've always wanted Tommy Tommy Junior TJJ
Speaker 1: little baby TJ. I do call it the name may
Speaker 1: I mayonnatte for short for mayonnaise. You know his career
Speaker 1: in school. Is he gonna get bored with that? TJA? TJ.
Speaker 1: Surely they're not going to call it Mayo and t J. Well,
Speaker 1: I could more see Tommy Jr's a real name. No,
Speaker 1: she's like Mayo, like mayonnaise. I'm like, surely not. But
Speaker 1: they said, oh, we've been talking about this name from
Speaker 1: the first moment we met. Does anyone remember because they
Speaker 1: met in a hot tub on Love Island. So what
Speaker 1: is everyone predicting they're going to name their baby? Well,
Speaker 1: I think it could be Tommy Jr. If it's a
Speaker 1: boy like that would not surprise me at all. Maybe
Speaker 1: instead of TJ, be PLT. But it seems to be
Speaker 1: a thing in the UK where they will call their
Speaker 1: firstborn son after them because we've been listening to the
Speaker 1: Sam and Billie Show, who are from Towie, and they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: little Paul and Big Paul, so it will be little Tommy.
Speaker 1: I feel like maybe little Tommy and little Ellie Belly.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I think Molly May's daughter may have a
Speaker 1: hyphenated name like her, so maybe it's Mayo something Molly Mayo,
Speaker 1: Molly Mayo. So we woke up this thorning and George
Speaker 1: is like, oh, my lips sort of feel a little
Speaker 1: bit slilent. Now. Georgie Stevens has shared a rather hilarious
Speaker 1: video of an allergic reaction she had this week. Now
Speaker 1: I feel really sorry for her, but I've got to
Speaker 1: note that she was laughing about it, so I feel
Speaker 1: like we can have a laugh now. So basically, Georgie
Speaker 1: used to have a childhood allergy to prawn's and she
Speaker 1: thought she'd grown out of it, so she ate them
Speaker 1: the other night, and she woke up saying to her husband,
Speaker 1: oh my lips feel a bit puffy, and he's filmed
Speaker 1: what she looks like, and let's throw to the clip
Speaker 1: of his reaction to her. She stopped, I'm literally shrinking
Speaker 1: today is the k It's not funny. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: did she go to hospital? That's next level? No. So
Speaker 1: the worst part is she was actually meant to be
Speaker 1: a model in a photo shoot for her husband's Sisters
Speaker 1: Swimwear maternity range, so she did give an update saying
Speaker 1: that her lips had gone down. She said it was
Speaker 1: kind of good that she's not complaining because it looks
Speaker 1: like she's had a bit of juicy botox. I remember
Speaker 1: having an allergic reaction at work and I'd eaten some
Speaker 1: pine nuts but I didn't know I was I don't
Speaker 1: even still know if I'm allergic to them. And I
Speaker 1: remember because our uncle's adoptors, so I wrung my uncle
Speaker 1: and he thought I was having a panic attack and
Speaker 1: he was just about to call an ambulance. I'm like, no, no,
Speaker 1: like it's actually my lips is really it's like, you
Speaker 1: can't take this away from me. You cannot take away
Speaker 1: my happiness, my relationship, my business, my career like you
Speaker 1: just you can. On Wednesday, Caller Daddy dropped its much
Speaker 1: anticipated interview with Hailey Bieber, where she finally addressed long
Speaker 1: standing rumors that Justin Bieber cheated on Selena Gomes with her. So, Amy,
Speaker 1: let's get straight into those cheating rumors. What was said?
Speaker 1: Because I haven't really kept up to date, I feel
Speaker 1: like this is a sort of jen Z Young Milansia. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like I've never been one to sort of
Speaker 1: ship the whole Selena and Justin romance. But when you
Speaker 1: actually go back and look at the timeline, it is
Speaker 1: very interesting and you can kind of see why these
Speaker 1: fans were so invested in their relationship. So, just to
Speaker 1: give context, Justin and Selena dated on and off again
Speaker 1: for eight years, So this was between twenty ten and
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. So fans were very quick to stand this
Speaker 1: relationship and they became very heavily invested in it. So
Speaker 1: in late twenty fourteen, Justin and Selena officially broke up
Speaker 1: and Justin began sharing a series of Instagram posts on
Speaker 1: vacation with Hailey, but he claimed they were just friends.
Speaker 1: So I think this is when Selena's fans sort of
Speaker 1: started feeling a bit off about Haley Beeber. So this
Speaker 1: is where all the hate started. Yeah, it's so crazy
Speaker 1: that it was twenty fourteen, a few years ago, I know. So.
Speaker 1: Then in twenty sixteen, there was a blow up online
Speaker 1: between Justin and Selena. So I do not remember this
Speaker 1: at all, but basically, Justin shared a photo of himself
Speaker 1: with Sophia Richie and fans began to send him hate
Speaker 1: because obviously they wanted him to be with Selena. I
Speaker 1: didn't realize that Sophia Richie was involved in this because
Speaker 1: she also dated Scott Dissick. Yeah. I actually forgot about
Speaker 1: this too. So Justin's threatened fans on Instagram. He said,
Speaker 1: I'm going to make my Instagram private if you guys
Speaker 1: don't stop the hate. He said, this is getting out
Speaker 1: of hand. If you guys are really fans, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: be so mean to people that I like. Selena then
Speaker 1: weighed in and wrote, if you can't handle the hate,
Speaker 1: then star posting pictures of your girlfriend. Laugh out loud.
Speaker 1: It should be special between you two. Only don't be
Speaker 1: mad at your fans. They love you and supported you
Speaker 1: before anyone ever did good on Selena, Justin responded, it's
Speaker 1: funny to see people that used me for attention and
Speaker 1: still try to point the finger this way. So Selena
Speaker 1: ended up going on Snapchat and apologizing for her comments.
Speaker 1: See after listening to Haley Bieber's interview on Caller Daddy,
Speaker 1: I can see how she would be annoyed by Selena
Speaker 1: almost egging fans on. Well, that's kind of what it
Speaker 1: seems like that she has sort of been fueling the
Speaker 1: fire a little bit with the fans. So just sorry,
Speaker 1: But if you were in that situation and you had
Speaker 1: all these fans behind you, I got to support you,
Speaker 1: would you not lay the boot in slightly when you
Speaker 1: potentially been cheated? Do you know? Do you know what
Speaker 1: her fans are called by the way, You know how
Speaker 1: there's like the believers, yeahs selenaators. Oh that's very late.
Speaker 1: That's not a good one. So just getting back to
Speaker 1: the timeline, Selena then dated The Weekend for ten months
Speaker 1: before she was spotted back with Justin Bieber in twenty seventeen,
Speaker 1: and then fans got really excited because in February of
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, Selena attended Justin's father's wedding in Jamaica, and
Speaker 1: she also shed an Instagram post dedicated to Justin's birthday,
Speaker 1: much so everybody assumed they were back together. Then fast
Speaker 1: forward to July twenty eighteen, and fans were left shocked
Speaker 1: when Haley and Justin announced their engagement. They then married
Speaker 1: in September of that same year. Well, I did not
Speaker 1: realize this was so quick. So four months after Selena
Speaker 1: was at Justin's dad's wedding and wishing him a happy birthday,
Speaker 1: they got engaged and then got married a month later. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so hell and so Subsequently, all of these Julna
Speaker 1: fans were furious, and they directed all of their anger
Speaker 1: at Haley because obviously she was labeled as a home
Speaker 1: wrecker and they'd spoiled this illusion of this romance between
Speaker 1: Selena and Justin. It's crazy putting that timeline into perspective,
Speaker 1: because I suppose a lot of us that aren't, you know,
Speaker 1: when you've got lives and aren't completely invested in what's
Speaker 1: going on. I just remember seeing them getting married, and
Speaker 1: they just looked like the most beautiful couple. Like I remember,
Speaker 1: it was just all about Haley and what she looked
Speaker 1: like and that she's just this style like her. So
Speaker 1: let's get into what Hailey said about that time. So
Speaker 1: in the interview with Alex Cooper, she flat out denied
Speaker 1: cheating with Justin. She said, I can say, period, point blank,
Speaker 1: I was never with him when he was in a
Speaker 1: relationship with anybody. That's the end of it. She also
Speaker 1: acknowledged the controversy surrounding the timeline of their engagement, saying,
Speaker 1: I understand how it looked from the outside, and there's
Speaker 1: a lot of perception there, but that was a situation
Speaker 1: where I know for a fact that it was the
Speaker 1: right thing for them to close that door. She said.
Speaker 1: I did feel like there was a little bit of
Speaker 1: shade in this interview, because Hailey went on to say
Speaker 1: that she thought Justin's decision to end his relationship with
Speaker 1: Selena was the most healthy, mature decision he could make.
Speaker 1: The thing is, though, when I saw this interview promoted online,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yes, I just knew that Hailey
Speaker 1: Bieber and Selena Gomans do not like it. So I
Speaker 1: was like, there are going to be some amazing, juicy details,
Speaker 1: but I feel like for the whole interview, firstly, it
Speaker 1: was odd that they never named Selena. They kept her
Speaker 1: and she and Justin's X, which I think was a
Speaker 1: little bit disrespectful. But then again I can also understand
Speaker 1: it because then Selena would come out and be like,
Speaker 1: could you stop using my name and get my name? Hayley? Though,
Speaker 1: can you imagine having this X following you around the
Speaker 1: whole time? I feel like she said a lot without
Speaker 1: saying anything because the fact that she firstly wouldn't name her,
Speaker 1: and then she sort of it was kind of like
Speaker 1: she was threatening things but never actually said them. It
Speaker 1: was like, oh, well, I was going to come out
Speaker 1: at this point and say this. I wish I could.
Speaker 1: I wish I could tell the truth about what happened.
Speaker 1: Isn't what this interview about? Please do do you guys? Reckon?
Speaker 1: More was said, but then it had to be cut out. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. She seemed she seemed very controlled
Speaker 1: in what she was saying. She came across as very
Speaker 1: intelligent and very well spoken. It was quite clear that
Speaker 1: she had a plan of everything that she was going
Speaker 1: to say. I did think Towards the end, there was
Speaker 1: this segment where Alex was discussing her and Justin's sex life,
Speaker 1: and it seemed almost as if she had a gun
Speaker 1: to her head because she did not want to answer
Speaker 1: any of the questions. She really had to push him.
Speaker 1: She's like, look, I'll say the words and you just
Speaker 1: say yes or no. Wow, because Haley basically said, she's like,
Speaker 1: I feel really cringed talking about this because I know
Speaker 1: my parents are going to listen enough. But for those
Speaker 1: we will summarize what she basically said. She said, if
Speaker 1: Aya wants to know, she said a favorite sex position
Speaker 1: is doggie style. She prefers nighttime sex over morning sex.
Speaker 1: She's not interested in having a threesome. So there we go.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing. She's clever enough to know that
Speaker 1: even if she just says yes to something or one
Speaker 1: word responses, that is going to formulate a huge media article.
Speaker 1: Which is also why she knew that if she said
Speaker 1: these few comments about Selena Gomez, she would still be
Speaker 1: able to get her point out there by being quite
Speaker 1: measured and controlled in what she said. I don't think
Speaker 1: it particularly looked very good on her, because normally you
Speaker 1: would think that she would use this interview to potentially
Speaker 1: touch on those rumors and the speculation for maybe a
Speaker 1: couple of questions, and then talk about amazing things that
Speaker 1: she's got coming up or things about her life that
Speaker 1: we may not have heard. But literally, I would say
Speaker 1: eighty percent of the interview was just about Selena going
Speaker 1: that's what everyone want it. But I feel like it
Speaker 1: was almost a pr effort because I feel like she's
Speaker 1: copying so much hate even now, so four years on
Speaker 1: from this, from their marriage, she's copying hate from Selena.
Speaker 1: So this going to do is just, you know, make
Speaker 1: more happy. Well, there's so much controversy at the moment
Speaker 1: surrounding her skincare brand because there's been threats of her
Speaker 1: being sued for having the same name as another business,
Speaker 1: and also people are comparing her skincare brand to Millie
Speaker 1: Bobby Brown and saying it's very similar. So maybe she's
Speaker 1: trying to move people away from that and get some
Speaker 1: sympathy around how her mental health was affected by the
Speaker 1: whole ordeal. Yeah, Well, she did talk about her mental
Speaker 1: health and reading between the lines, she did state that
Speaker 1: she was a little bit suicidal, But then I kind
Speaker 1: of was confused I don't know how you've felt about this, guys,
Speaker 1: but she was talking about how she tells herself that
Speaker 1: there are people way worse off than her. But then
Speaker 1: she said she was working with her psychologists to allow
Speaker 1: her to actually say that she can feel bad. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know what she meant, because people would look at
Speaker 1: her life and go, You've got everything, What the hell
Speaker 1: are you complaining about? So I feel like that was
Speaker 1: an internal struggle for her to go, well, I am
Speaker 1: feeling shit, and I am allowed to feel shit, regardless
Speaker 1: of how privileged I am. What I found interesting, though,
Speaker 1: was she said she had spoken to her therapist about
Speaker 1: feeling like she's been constantly compared to others, and obviously
Speaker 1: that stemming from constantly being compared to Selena Gomez, and
Speaker 1: she said she had this instinctive feeling of wanting to
Speaker 1: be liked by people. You know what's crazy to me
Speaker 1: because from someone that is not a stan of any
Speaker 1: of these people, I just think that so many people
Speaker 1: are trying to be like Hailey be But like I've
Speaker 1: seen so many people with those like frosted donut fingernails,
Speaker 1: Like I want them, blazed nails. I want them just
Speaker 1: because She's got them, the boyfriend blazer, you know, the
Speaker 1: fashion her very itick girl. Yeah, she's the total it
Speaker 1: girl and so iron that she thinks that people are
Speaker 1: comparing her to say Selena Gomez, where I think she
Speaker 1: is just an absolute icon at the moment. I feel
Speaker 1: like it's no one really talks much about Selena Gomes
Speaker 1: other than a stand to compare them both to compare,
Speaker 1: they both say one's better than the other. But it's
Speaker 1: quite ironic that I feel like she is the girl
Speaker 1: of the moment and she's feeling like that. Do you
Speaker 1: know what I think it is. I think it's this
Speaker 1: subculture of the Internet where there were these believers and
Speaker 1: these Seleninators who are coming together, and you know, for example,
Speaker 1: on TikTok, I often see these videos that these obsessive
Speaker 1: fans make where they've really romanticize something. So whether it's
Speaker 1: a TV show in this case, it's obviously Justin and Selena,
Speaker 1: and they're so fixated on these people coming back together,
Speaker 1: and it's just based on this perception that they had
Speaker 1: this perfect relationship and they should be together. But they
Speaker 1: won't acknowledge that it's now Justin and Hayley. They think
Speaker 1: it's a lot of teens because they don't perhaps have
Speaker 1: for their own relationship, so they lived through these companies.
Speaker 1: But they wouldn't be teens because they've been dating for
Speaker 1: since twenty ten. These are like people in their thirds
Speaker 1: is little Walnut. Influencer and sleepwear entrepreneur Lily Brown has
Speaker 1: soft launched a new romance that's been brewing since her
Speaker 1: infamous trip to Balley. Lily and fellow influencer m Davies
Speaker 1: caused a stir when they ask followers whether they would
Speaker 1: regret eating a weed brownie before boarding their flight. So
Speaker 1: who is Lily Brown's new love interest. Well, it's this
Speaker 1: guy called Christian House. So he's a micro influencer. He's
Speaker 1: got about fourteen thousand followers and he's twenty two years old.
Speaker 1: He is from the Gold Coast, which is where Lily
Speaker 1: Brown lives. And funnily enough, she was talking about for
Speaker 1: ages how she wanted to move to Sydney, but now
Speaker 1: she is staying put in the Gold Coast. Punny and
Speaker 1: this guy, Christian, he is pretty hot. He's clearly a
Speaker 1: gym guy. He's a bit of a party boy and
Speaker 1: he spends most of his time in Balley. And he's
Speaker 1: one of those guys who makes a lot of TikTok
Speaker 1: content about being single and having one night stands. Really yeah,
Speaker 1: it kind of it's that content where it's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: he a bit of a lad. You're like like biting
Speaker 1: his lip and kind of yeah, very player vibes. I
Speaker 1: mean it is too Yeah, I was gonna say he's
Speaker 1: twenty two, So I think that's why. And from having
Speaker 1: a bit of a stalk, it is pretty clear that
Speaker 1: the pair knew each other before Lily's recent trip, as
Speaker 1: she has been liking a lot of his photos for
Speaker 1: months now. So back in July, Christian uploaded a shirtless
Speaker 1: photo with his six pack on display with the caption
Speaker 1: shout out to Jenny Craig, to which Lily Brown commented,
Speaker 1: love you work, Jenny. And it seems like Lily's recent
Speaker 1: trip to Bali has really brought them closer together. So
Speaker 1: she has been traveling to Bali to deal with her
Speaker 1: suppliers for her pajama line Chili, also having a holiday
Speaker 1: with m Davies and having some weird browning. That's right,
Speaker 1: and it seems like she will be going back and
Speaker 1: forth for a bit of work, so Christian appears to
Speaker 1: currently be living in Bali. He has been there for
Speaker 1: months on end. So I'm not sure what the plans
Speaker 1: are for the two of them, if they're doing long
Speaker 1: distance or it might just be a fling, like it
Speaker 1: might just be a holiday work. Well, I don't know
Speaker 1: because she's been soft launching this new relationship on a
Speaker 1: number of different platforms. So I first noticed him pop
Speaker 1: up on her Instagram stories while she was staying in Bali.
Speaker 1: Then last week she posted two videos to TikTok where
Speaker 1: they're doing a Bali mook bung, and it's very clear
Speaker 1: that the two of them do have chemistry in a
Speaker 1: YouTube video to know, they're in a TikTok video of
Speaker 1: a hook bung, so she tagged him in it as well.
Speaker 1: So in the video, they're being very playful. He's like
Speaker 1: trying to flick insects at her and scare her. And
Speaker 1: there was this moment in the video where they were
Speaker 1: trying this walnut milk as a bit of a laugh
Speaker 1: and Lily remarked, oh, nut milk, and then they both
Speaker 1: smirked at each other and he kind of gave the
Speaker 1: camera the eyes. I mean, I felt really uncomfortable, you know,
Speaker 1: when you're watching two people flirt and it's just like
Speaker 1: I'm a thirty three year old woman watching somebody talk
Speaker 1: about nut milk on TikTok. Well, under the I think
Speaker 1: everyone picked up on the fact that there's something going on.
Speaker 1: So some of the followers wrote cuties, to which she liked.
Speaker 1: Someone else wrote he's cute little, and Lily responded, don't
Speaker 1: give him a bigger head. Well, that's nice for her,
Speaker 1: isn't it, though, Yes, just like her other relationships she
Speaker 1: had to keep offline. It's more entertaining for the rest
Speaker 1: of us, isn't it. It is interesting that this guy
Speaker 1: is a micro influencer and happy to be in her videos,
Speaker 1: because that's not we've seen from Lily's relationships in the past.
Speaker 1: I think as the last two boyfriends haven't wanted to
Speaker 1: appear online, and I feel like perhaps that hasn't really
Speaker 1: been right for Lily. Yeah. Well, this guy hasn't actually
Speaker 1: shared about her yet, but he has been very vocal
Speaker 1: in the comment section because under these mukbun posts, he
Speaker 1: wrote miss this though, and then she wrote Samesi's and
Speaker 1: did a little butterfly emoji, and then yesterday she took
Speaker 1: it even further with the soft launch. She uploaded a
Speaker 1: photo dump of pictures and captioned it. Stories saw most
Speaker 1: of it first, so there was a little hint that
Speaker 1: maybe she talked more about him on her stories. But
Speaker 1: you know, in this photo dump there was all these
Speaker 1: different images of like her nails and just pictures of her,
Speaker 1: and then at the end there was a FaceTime photo
Speaker 1: of him sticking his tar. Oh. I love how she
Speaker 1: leaves it to the last few. Yeah. The Instagram dump
Speaker 1: is really clever, isn't it, Because if she uploaded just
Speaker 1: one photo of him, it looks like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: more serious. I love the photos that people choose to
Speaker 1: put the Instagram dump when the main one is just
Speaker 1: to soft launch the relationship, as you said, like pictures
Speaker 1: of food and now. I was like, yeah, no one cares,
Speaker 1: Yeah whatever, Lo where's the boy? And I'm like just
Speaker 1: so feeling so fucking happy right now, Like I've got
Speaker 1: my dogs, I've got my kids. A week on from
Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley and Michael Finch's public falling out, the pair
Speaker 1: have been posting subliminal quotes directed at one another. So
Speaker 1: I can you bring us up to speed? Yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: just to refresh everyone's memories. Last week, we did break
Speaker 1: the news that Sky Wheatley made controversial comments about OnlyFans creators,
Speaker 1: which were aired on Michael Finch's vlog. So initially, instead
Speaker 1: of apologizing, Sky tried to shift the blame to Michael
Speaker 1: for posting the content and said that it was never
Speaker 1: meant to be shared. She said, I'm so upset it's
Speaker 1: been post still on line. This was out of my control.
Speaker 1: I was having a conversation with a so called friend
Speaker 1: out of anger. Shocked it's been posted to be honest,
Speaker 1: trust no one. So since then, she did speak to
Speaker 1: So Dramatic and apologize for the comments, but she hasn't
Speaker 1: issued a formal apology on her own platform. It seems
Speaker 1: like she's trying to shut down any further publicity around
Speaker 1: the comment. It's a weird PR strategy talking to So
Speaker 1: Dramatic but then not addressing it on her own channel.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like, if you're a public figure, you
Speaker 1: owe it to your fans to actually apologize or at
Speaker 1: the very least acknowledge the wrong thing that you've done.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's actually clever of her though, because
Speaker 1: you know she's not not everyone would have heard about it.
Speaker 1: And also she's sort of pushed all the attention towards
Speaker 1: this friendship breakdown, so everyone's talking about the friendship breakdown
Speaker 1: as opposed to the offensive comment she said. So she
Speaker 1: did do a Q and A and a follower wrote
Speaker 1: to Sky saying miss you and Michael already, and she
Speaker 1: responded by sharing a photo of Forest look upset and
Speaker 1: then did a sad face and a broken heart emoji.
Speaker 1: So it's interesting that some of her followers are picking
Speaker 1: up on this friendship breakdown, but she hasn't actually addressed
Speaker 1: it yet. It's not why used to hang out all
Speaker 1: the time they did. They were on results yeah a bit,
Speaker 1: but like not every day or anything. It's clear that
Speaker 1: people know what's going on. Yeah. Well, she followed up
Speaker 1: that with also a quote. So she shared a quote
Speaker 1: on her Instagram story saying there's a certain disrespect that
Speaker 1: an apology or explanation doesn't fix. So she's trying to
Speaker 1: clearly push it that Michael has apologized to her, acting
Speaker 1: like he's in the wrong. Well, Michael followed it up
Speaker 1: the next day by sharing the quote I can respect
Speaker 1: a bad decision, but I can't respect a liar, and
Speaker 1: he accompanied it with the caption peace out girl scout.
Speaker 1: I know it seems immature to be posting quotes directed
Speaker 1: at people. It seems very like MSN days when you
Speaker 1: put a song lyric, But I love it. To me,
Speaker 1: it seems more like twenty sixteen when people would just
Speaker 1: share these passive aggressive quotes on Facebook. I like it though,
Speaker 1: because I don't know I like it without saying it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're trying to like read into it. They just said
Speaker 1: it for her if they go on this story and
Speaker 1: just say I like, Michael's too clever for that, you know,
Speaker 1: when you really want to put something up passive aggressive.
Speaker 1: I love actually looking through the quotes. You're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that that really was. It wasn't funny when you go
Speaker 1: through your camera roll and you realize what moment of
Speaker 1: time you're in your life and you're like, what's all
Speaker 1: this stuff. There's all these sex in the city quotes
Speaker 1: with this, Well, that's right, heartbreak. I have been keeping
Speaker 1: an eye on Michael's content this week, and he has
Speaker 1: been hanging out a lot with his og influence of friends,
Speaker 1: and they appear to be siding with him. So Shannie
Speaker 1: and Michael seemed to be getting a lot closer, and
Speaker 1: Shanny did share some banter that she had with Michael
Speaker 1: over text message about a funny photo she sent him,
Speaker 1: and also it was funny because she focused on the
Speaker 1: fact that you know when you add a little photo,
Speaker 1: you know, when people ring you, you can add the
Speaker 1: little profile picture. So her photo was this total flashback.
Speaker 1: It was one of Michael Finch's first ever photo shoots,
Speaker 1: so he looked like a completely different person. And he
Speaker 1: re shared the photo and was like, Wow, playing this
Speaker 1: game again, Shiny. That was my first ever photo shoot,
Speaker 1: by the way, So I don't know, it just reminds
Speaker 1: me of old times. And they were also seen hanging
Speaker 1: out together at a recent brand event where Lily Brown
Speaker 1: was also there. So it seems like the gangs all
Speaker 1: back to the sides. The sides have been picked, haven't they. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: the thing is, it seems like a bit of a
Speaker 1: fuck you to Sky because I feel like Michael was
Speaker 1: the only one out of that group that actually liked
Speaker 1: Sky or tolerated her. I feel exhausted. I feel like
Speaker 1: we've unleashed a lot of goss today and I think
Speaker 1: that's all we have today. As I said if anyone
Speaker 1: has any juicy information they want to send us, our
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