1 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Edge of Change, presented by Nike, a 2 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: series of conversations with athletes, innovators and designers who are 3 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: pushing boundaries, creating ideas, and advancing change for women in sport. 4 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: Emily van Egmund has football in her blood. Born and 5 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: raised in Newcastle, she was immediately immersed in the sport. 6 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: Her father represented Australia and it was clear from an 7 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: early age that Emily would soon follow in his footsteps. 8 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: Like most female athletes of her generation, she played with 9 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: the boys until well into her teenage years, but that 10 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: all stopped when the Matildas came knocking and she made 11 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: her debut in twenty ten at just sixteen years old. 12 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 1: Football has taken Emily all over the world. While currently 13 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: applying her trade for the San Diego Wave in the USA, 14 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: She's had stints with clubs in Australia, Germany, Denmark and 15 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: the UK, and all that experience will absolutely come in 16 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: handy in twenty twenty three when the Matildas get to 17 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: play in front of the nation on home soil. Emily, 18 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Female Athlete Project. 19 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. 20 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: I'm pretty excited to sit down and have a chat 21 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: with you today. To kick us off, can you tell 22 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: us what were you like as a little kid. 23 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'd say cute, but I think my 24 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: parents would beg to differ. Now I was a little kid, 25 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 2: I think just growing up in a family. My dad 26 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: was a professional footballer, so I think naturally sports was 27 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: probably always going to be through the household. And yeah, 28 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: I kind of just couldn't really sit still. 29 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, when was it that you first found soccer? 30 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: Or are we going soccer or football today? 31 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: Football as football? 32 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: Sorry sacrilegious to say no. 33 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: So my story pretty much well, like I said, my 34 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: dad was professional football. He also played for Australia. But 35 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: my story is a little bit funny, Like I got 36 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 2: a twin brother, and so my dad's dream probably was 37 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: to have a son who played football. So we went 38 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: down to the local park and he signed him up 39 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: to play, and he gave him the uniform and he 40 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 2: pretty much said, okay, well this is what you've got 41 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 2: to wear. And you saw the long socks and when 42 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 2: I'm not wearing those, and me, being the annoying kid 43 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 2: I was, was just tugging on his shirt, going, oh, 44 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: do what, I'll do it? So they just changed the 45 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: initial from an M to A and E and that's 46 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: kind of how it all started. 47 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. Why was it? Do you think that 48 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: your dad wanted your brother to play initially rather than you? 49 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: Oh look, he's so supportive now, But I think probably 50 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 2: you know, you obviously have a son who would probably 51 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 2: just assume they wanted to be into sports because he 52 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: was into sports. But we couldn't be more opposite. So yeah, 53 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: I think a little dad's a little dad's girl now 54 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 2: because I played his firit sport. 55 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: When you're about fifteen years already got the chance to 56 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: start training with the Newcastle How did you get to 57 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: that point? 58 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 2: Poor, It's going back a long time, so pretty much 59 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 2: my junior development back in the day was a little 60 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: bit different. We I grew up in Newcastle, so it 61 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: was a bit of a smaller town, but we had 62 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: an n Swiss program, so there was enn Swiss program, 63 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 2: so a qas programs waste kind of all around the 64 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: country and Newcastle kind of had probably seven to eight 65 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: Matilda players at the time, and the head coach also 66 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: had the boys program there, so he used to integrate 67 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: the girls with the boys, which I think looking back 68 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: on now was a huge benefit for my development as 69 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: a youngster growing up. So I was fortunate enough to 70 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: grow up in an environment where we had Cheryl Sawsbree, 71 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: Joey Peters, Katie Gill, Lauren Colethorpe, I could name so 72 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: many more, not just like okay players, but probably like 73 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: back in the day, like the absolute peak of Australian football. 74 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: And I was young coming through the ranks, and yeah, 75 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: when I was twelve years old, I kind of got 76 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 2: introduced to that environment. And then obviously the w League 77 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 2: came in, which was awesome for women's football within Australia, 78 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: and at fifteen I got the opportunity to be part 79 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 2: of that that team under Gary Phillips again with the 80 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: likes Cheryl Sausbury and Joy Peters, and from there it 81 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: kind of just kicked off. 82 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: What was it like training with someone like Cheryl who 83 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: only just recently got overtaken by your current teammate in 84 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: terms of number of Matilda's caps. To kind of be 85 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: like a little kid, you don't know anything about the 86 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: world right when you're fifteen years old, to be learning 87 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: from people like. 88 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 2: That, she scared the shit out of me. 89 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. 90 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 2: If we can say that. But she was intimidating, but no, 91 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: to be honest with VI Chez was you know, she 92 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: was probably a huge role model for me growing up, 93 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 2: and I was so fortunate to be you know, in 94 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: her her home environment and just learning and seeing you know, 95 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: the behaviors of you know, those Matildas back in the day, 96 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: and just you know, aspiring to obviously one day play 97 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: for Australia and it was awesome to have not only 98 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: her presence, but she was a true leader and I 99 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 2: mean she speaks volumes for what she's done for the game, 100 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: and yeah, it was awesome. 101 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: You're only sixteen when you debuted for the Matilda's and 102 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: a friendly, Is that right? 103 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: Yes? I think so. 104 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: Do you remember your first cap? 105 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were in Brisbane and we were playing against 106 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: I want to say I could be wrong here, but 107 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: I want to say it's North Korea. 108 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: I feel like I should have that somewhere in my research, 109 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: but let's go with that. 110 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 2: Okay, we'll go with that. But yeah, it was Willo 111 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 2: in Brisbane and I remember because I debuted with Los 112 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: Allaway at the same time. But I was young, and 113 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 2: I mean I just remember being so excited and when 114 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: you're young, it doesn't probably doesn't face you as much 115 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 2: as it should, so it was just more of an 116 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: exciting moment, I would say for myself. 117 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: Was it something that you'd obviously seen your dad when 118 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: you were a little kid. Was it something that you 119 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: dreamt of to play for the Materidas from when you 120 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: were young. 121 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think when I got to the age of 122 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 2: twelve thirteen, when soccer football started to become a little 123 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: bit more serious, I think that's when I probably aspired 124 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: more to want to play for Australia. And you know, 125 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: you're part of the junior you know, national teams and 126 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 2: you go up through the ranks like that, and you know, 127 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: to be out to debut at sixteen here in Australia 128 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: is you know, something I'm extremely proud of. But again 129 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 2: we obviously have a completely different scope to a lot 130 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 2: of the other countries and our systems and our development pathways. 131 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 2: So I remember I wasn't just you know, it wasn't 132 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: just me. I was with Sammy Kerr and you know, 133 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: Caitlin Ford's and the Steph Catley's you know who. I'm 134 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 2: so fortunate enough now to still be part of, you know, 135 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 2: in their team and we're all such good friends and 136 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 2: have such fond memories and yeah, it was a good 137 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: it was a good little pathway growing up. 138 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,559 Speaker 1: You've been playing now for about thirteen years for the Matildas. Jeez, 139 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: how has it changed in that time. 140 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: Oh, it's changed so much. We actually just got a 141 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 2: barista in camp. 142 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: So it's worth the longevity. It's worth being around for 143 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: a while. 144 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: It obviously wouldn't be what it is today without those girls, 145 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: the players before us paving the way. But yeah, obviously 146 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 2: women's football in Australia and around the world has come 147 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: so far. I mean, I think the World Cup's going 148 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: to be a huge platform to see how far it's 149 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: really come. But I think it's credit to Football Australia 150 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: for the things that they've implemented, and you know, especially 151 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: the w League and the pathway it's given for girls 152 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: to aspire to obviously play for Australia and just to 153 00:07:57,880 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: give them the opportunity. 154 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: Really, So for you, what do you think the importance 155 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: of having a pathway like the ability to come through 156 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: Newcastle to then have a chance to become a Matilda. 157 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: What do you think was important in that pathway and 158 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: what do you think kind of into the future is 159 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: the most important thing for the next generation of young kids. 160 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: I think it's just competition at a young age. I 161 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 2: think I look back at my development and I was 162 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: fortunate enough. You know, I was playing with the boys 163 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: until I was about fifteen, and we all know obviously 164 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 2: they're you know, they're quicker, they're stronger, and it's only 165 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 2: going to benefit you in the long runner, I personally think. 166 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: And then for football shit to obviously implement the w 167 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: League I think has been really good because you know, 168 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 2: it's given not just a core group of girls an opportunity, 169 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 2: but it's given like a wider scope an opportunity. And 170 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: now you see them obviously they're expanding, which again is 171 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 2: only going to hopefully better, you know, the development in 172 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 2: this country. 173 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: A lot of players, we know have to go overseas 174 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: because of the nature of part time contracts and the 175 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: ability to make enough money all year round. And you've 176 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: been fortunate to be a part of one of the 177 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: new teams over in the NWSL with San Diego. What's 178 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: that experience been like for you? 179 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 2: I love it. You know, last year we had a 180 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 2: really good year, an expansion team making the playoffs is 181 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 2: kind of unheard of. But yeah, I can't speak highly 182 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 2: enough of that environment, I head coach is awesome. We've 183 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 2: got some of the world's best players in that training 184 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 2: environment which only pushes you individually as a player as well. 185 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: So we're back then now in pre season and yeah, 186 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: I just can't wait for the season start. 187 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: What is the difference like playing over the first playing 188 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: on home soil? 189 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, playing abroad I think, you know, for me is 190 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: to to better myself as a footballer, to then you know, 191 00:09:55,800 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: obviously to compete for national team spots, but the competition, 192 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 2: I think, you know, you're training and playing against some 193 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: of the world's best players day in day out, and 194 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: you know you can't really replicate that here at the 195 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: moment in Australia. As much as it's a good opportunity 196 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 2: for younger girls here to get some game time, I 197 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: think ultimately that the best competition right now is definitely 198 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 2: abroad and we have full seasons. You know, you see 199 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 2: it now with the WSL and where that's going. I 200 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: mean France, Germany, if you know, they've been top top 201 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 2: competitions for however many years, and then the nwsls as well. 202 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 2: You know, you can't deny the fact that America is 203 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 2: you know, so successful within the national team and it's 204 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: you know, it's only going to be competitive in the 205 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: domestically as well. 206 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: You're recently part of a game against Angel City FC 207 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: that broke the record. Was it about thirty two thousand 208 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: in the crowd? 209 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty two thousand? 210 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: What was that game like? 211 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a that was an unreal atmosphere. I mean, 212 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: obviously they had a lot of traveling fans from LA 213 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 2: and it's become a bit of a rivalry, which is 214 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: what you want. But no, we we have a new 215 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: stadium there now, and not only that game, but we 216 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: had our playoff game against Chicago and we managed to 217 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: I think we almost sold that out too, So I 218 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: think it just shows where the game's going and it's yes, 219 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 2: it's pleasing and it's you know, it's fun. It's fun 220 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: for us to come out and you know, see an 221 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: atmosphere like that. 222 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: So we've seen that league in particularly do a pretty 223 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: incredible job. You know, Angel City and San Diego as 224 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: well as these expansion teams have kind of created these brands, 225 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: and we know how huge women's football is now in 226 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: the us. What do you think the importance of investing 227 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: in women's sport and investing in women's football is. 228 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you've only seen the last five years. 229 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 2: It's just grown and it's growing in a rapid rate. 230 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: And I think, like I said, the WSL in England 231 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 2: is a prime example. You know, they've got you know, 232 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 2: I think it's Sky Sports now has come on board 233 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 2: and you know, you know, big big companies such as this, 234 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 2: and then like you said, in America as well starting 235 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 2: to you know, they have WPS which back in the 236 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 2: day they used to get you know, amazing crowds. It 237 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 2: kind of took the dip and now it's gone back up. 238 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 2: And I think the one thing that the twenty twenty 239 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: three World Cup is going to be able to provide 240 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: is you know, a huge platform and to showcase exactly 241 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: where women's football has come from and where it's at. 242 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: Can you talk to us about the preparations for that. 243 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: And we've recently seen the announcement about the move from 244 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: a forty thousand capacity stadium to an eighty plus thousand 245 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: capacity stadium, because you guys sold out that first match 246 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: against Ireland pretty quickly. How do you obviously you work 247 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: pretty hard physically to prepare, but how do you prepare 248 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: mentally for it individually and as a team. 249 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 2: Well, the big talking point around this camp has been 250 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 2: this is, you know, a rehearsal for the World Cup. 251 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 2: It's to be honest with you, it's so hard to 252 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 2: replicate it. I don't think you can really replicate it because, 253 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: like you said, like we're going to be playing in 254 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 2: front of us eighty three thousand plus, So I think 255 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: the biggest thing is as a player is just knowing 256 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 2: the work you've put in prior to it and just 257 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: and backing that, which you know, we've obviously we've been 258 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 2: having a really good World Cup prep and I think 259 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 2: we're in good stead and this camp and the camps 260 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: to come before it are only going to benefit us. 261 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: But yeah, I think when it comes to a World Cup, 262 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: it's a it's a whole different ballgame, and it's just 263 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 2: one you honestly do. You just want it. You just 264 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 2: want to look back and you know, have just good 265 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 2: memories and no regrets and to enjoy. 266 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: What do you reckon? Like Little Emily would say, if 267 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: she knew that you were going to get to play 268 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: in front of eighty thousand people, oh gosh. 269 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 2: Or little Emily say, she'd probably say, yeah, I think 270 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: an amazing opportunity. I want, honestly, once in a lifetime opportunity. 271 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 2: You're never going to get this opportunity again. And to 272 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 2: be able to play what I think is the biggest 273 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 2: tournament that you can play in your footballing career on 274 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 2: home soil, I think is just something really special and 275 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 2: one that I'm very much looking forward to. 276 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: What is it that drives you to stay on top 277 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: of your game? 278 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 2: Well, I'm a winner. I love winning, and I would 279 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 2: probably say that the competitive nature. I also love a challenge, 280 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 2: so so yeah, I think when it comes to staying 281 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: on top of my game, a bit of a perfectionist, 282 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 2: but yeah, I love a challenge, so I won't shy 283 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: away from that. And you know, that's what what all 284 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: this World Cup prep's been about. And once we get there, 285 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: you just back yourself with the prep that you've put 286 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 2: into it and you know that you've done the hard yards. 287 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: So what happens when you lose? Like, how do you 288 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: react when you lose? Do you get angry? 289 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're obviously not happy. You want to win, but 290 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: that's part of football. Was part of sport. To be 291 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: honest with you, you're never going to win everything, but 292 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 2: I think just to learn, you know, from why you lost, 293 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 2: and to rectify that next time to make sure you 294 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: have a better showing. So that's one thing I love 295 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: about football is you might have one bad game, but 296 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: you've you know, you've always got another one coming up. 297 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: Have you noticed a change now that you've been in 298 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: the program for such a long period of time to 299 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: that you can act in like in a leadership sense 300 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: for the young eighteen year old kids that rock up 301 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: and are having their debuts. 302 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, we you know, you want to create at the 303 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: most comfortable environment as possible, but you know, within sport 304 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 2: there's gonna be disciplined. There's also got to be a 305 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: professional attitude that you bring. But full credit to the girls, 306 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: I think everyone's top like I think everyone comes in 307 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 2: with a great mindset. We're all here for the same thing, 308 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: for the same reason. It's a competitive environment and that's 309 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 2: all you can really ask for. So I think, you know, 310 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 2: we've got some tremendous leaders within our team, and I 311 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: think the most important thing is just everyone feeling valued 312 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 2: and just having that respect amongst the group. 313 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: I think as I've grown up as an athlete, I've 314 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: worked out more ways that I like away from the 315 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: field keep myself in the best shape, whether that's physically 316 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: or mentally. Has that been similar for you where you've 317 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: kind of the longer your career has gone on, you've 318 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: worked out better ways to look after yourself. 319 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that just comes experience. So yeah, 320 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 2: I think you know every at the end of the day, 321 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: like you know your body best and you know what 322 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: you need, and you know from your younger self to 323 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 2: when you get older, you start to realize certain things, 324 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: like you said, and what you've experienced as well within 325 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 2: your career. You know, you just you find what works 326 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 2: and you kind of just stick with that. 327 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: Have what's been your favorite thing that you've that you've 328 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: learned about about how to look after yourself? 329 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 2: How to look after myself? 330 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, mine's yoga. Just in case anyone was wondering, Oh, 331 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: I've only started three weeks ago and now I'm a 332 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: full yogi. 333 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 2: You couldn't pay me a million. 334 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: You should come with me. I thought I'd be so 335 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: bad because my hamstrings was shocking, so I thought I 336 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: was gonna be too embarrassed to do it, and now 337 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: I love it. I get in there and I'm like 338 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: feeling it, really meditating, it's beautiful. You should try and. 339 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 2: Brought into it. Yeah, I just don't think i'd have 340 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 2: the patience. Yeah, okay, I just I just don't think 341 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 2: I'd have the patience. But that's a tricky one probably honestly, 342 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: just recovery, like knowing what works human stuff. You know 343 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 2: everyone talks about like I don't want to like throw 344 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 2: any one of the bus, but like ice, barts and 345 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 2: massage and all this kind of stuff. I think just 346 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 2: finding what works for you, because what works for me 347 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: might not work for the next person. 348 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:47,719 Speaker 1: So, huh, you talked about getting a barista in camp. 349 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: Have you got a bit of a love for coffee 350 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: on the side. 351 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 2: I love coffee to be honest. If you I don't 352 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 2: really trust anyone who doesn't. 353 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: Drink coffee, it's a red flag. 354 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a huge red flag. Not I'm kidding, but 355 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 2: not really. But seriously, Yeah, we have a big coffee culture, 356 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 2: i'd say, within our within our team. And yeah, this camp, 357 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 2: we've been fortunate enough to have a brewster come in 358 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 2: who was previously with the soccer rouse. So now she's 359 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 2: stuck with us and she actually makes really good coffee. 360 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: So how does that work? Like when you're you're in 361 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: camp and you can throughout the day get a coffee 362 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: made for you whenever you want. 363 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, so pretty much from when you wake up so 364 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: breakfast to I don't know, two o'clock whatever. Anyone's cut 365 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 2: off is if you want a coffee, you just go 366 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: down and just ask for a coffee. 367 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: I reckon that, are you guys the first ward to 368 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: do that? I feel that some high standards. 369 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 2: Well the soccer rous had it at the World Cup, 370 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: so obviously not but I mean I'm not complaining. I 371 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: think it's pretty awesome. 372 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: There's been some CBA negotiations happening for Rugby League and 373 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 1: AFLW and stuff. At the moment, I reckon that should 374 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: be put into people's agreements, a compulsory brewster on. 375 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 2: But to be honest with you, it's nice, Like it's 376 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 2: nice that you have that option, but you know, sometimes 377 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 2: you might enjoy just going out like and just grabbing 378 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 2: a coffee. You know, the coffee in Australia is the best. 379 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 2: So what do. 380 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: You find yourself doing when you're not playing football. 381 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:19,479 Speaker 2: Oh, when I'm not playing football, going for coffee with friends. Nice, 382 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: probably speaking a family in San Diego, living near the 383 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 2: beach and going to the beach watching a sunset, just 384 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 2: chilling out. 385 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: Really yeah nice? Do you reckon you'd ever own your 386 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: own cafe? You know what? 387 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: I've actually always said that there's probably only two things 388 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 2: that I'd get into post playing football, because I don't 389 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 2: know if I could work a nine to five fair, 390 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: and one of them was potentially opening up my own cafe. Okay, 391 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 2: So I've always kind of thought that would be really cool, 392 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: but I've also heard it's like a lot of hard work. 393 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 2: So I admire everyone who's done it. 394 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: Where would you do it? Where are you going to 395 00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: open your cafe? 396 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 2: I don't know either, probably in Newcastle, where I'm from. 397 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 2: Or I think a good Australian cafe in like California 398 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: could be a hit. 399 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: Yeah nice. Have you found some good ones in San Diego? 400 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: We have some really good coffee. We have some really 401 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: good coffee spots in San Diego. There's there's a good 402 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: Aussie cafe actually in Venice in La called Great White. 403 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. It's probably the best one I've been to 404 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 2: you to be honest. 405 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: Yeah cool, What do you hope as a player that 406 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: your legacy is going to be like when you eventually 407 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: retire and you look back, what do you what do 408 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: you hope to have done for the Matilda's program and 409 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: for women's football as a whole. 410 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 2: Well, when I look back on the Matillas ro, I 411 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 2: hope just to pave the way for the next generation 412 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 2: coming through and to you know, to have set high 413 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 2: enough standards that you know, once you know they come in, 414 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 2: it's only going to grow. So yeah, professional environment, you know, 415 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 2: you know, a respectful environment, and yeah, just to leave 416 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 2: the game in a better place really for the next 417 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 2: generation coming through. 418 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: Yeah cool. You touched on what it would be like 419 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: to play in front of a home crowd. But I 420 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: think one of the things I'm most excited for you 421 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: guys is the fact that there's going to be like 422 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: so many families and kids that might not have ever 423 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 1: seen live football before, and you guys, like for me, 424 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: I kind of always look back at my Kathy Freeman 425 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: experience And I chatted to Sam Ker when she was 426 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: on the podcast as well about that, Like for me 427 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: as a seven year old kid, like that moment changed 428 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: my life. And to think that you guys now have 429 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: an opportunity to change a little kid's life, does that 430 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: has that sunk in? 431 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think every single time we take the field, 432 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 2: I think we you know, we love our fans and 433 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 2: we love the supporters, and yeah, I think obviously this 434 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 2: is going to be a huge occasion, like I said 435 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 2: once in a last time opportunity and I think, you know, 436 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 2: one of the key things to take away would to 437 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 2: be to aspire you know, young girls and even and 438 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: young boys to want to get out there and play 439 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 2: some soccer, some football. 440 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: You guys are very well known for your ability to 441 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: get around in the crowd, particularly post match, signing autographs 442 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,479 Speaker 1: and taking photos. Is that something in terms of the 443 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: culture of your team that you've purposely established or is 444 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 1: that just something that's happened naturally. 445 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: To be honest with you, the girl, the girls take 446 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: a lot of like they love it, and you know, 447 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 2: we we love giving back to our fans because you know, 448 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 2: they come out and support us, and they've supported us 449 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 2: from you know, they dot to now and the least 450 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 2: we can do is give back. But I think one 451 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 2: thing that's really special about the Matilda's is we're such 452 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 2: a unique team or we have so many unique characters, 453 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 2: and I think that's why we have such a good 454 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 2: relationship with our fans and our supporters, just because of 455 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 2: the characters that we have in the team. And yeah, 456 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 2: we have a huge amount of respect for everyone who 457 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 2: comes out and supports us and puts the green and 458 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 2: gold on. 459 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, very cool. Matilda's verse who. 460 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 2: I'm going to go with Matilda's versus England because I 461 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 2: just want the Euros nice, you know. I feel like 462 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 2: everyone be expecting the Matilda's versus USA, But I'm going 463 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 2: to go with England because I feel like they're really 464 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 2: hitting their peak right now. 465 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 1: They're on form, aren't they. 466 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? 467 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah, Well, best of what, getting back 468 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 1: over to continue your pre season. Thank you so much 469 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: for sitting down and having a chat today. Thank you, 470 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: thanks so much for listening. 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