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Speaker 1: Should we talk about you just saved my life?

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Speaker 2: Oh, Georgia Love. Yeah, I did say you love you

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Speaker 2: owe me actually, but you've done nothing but put me down.

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Speaker 2: Since you love it, I do.

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Speaker 1: ASH sent me a message as I was I was

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Speaker 1: late to this record, and I said, do you want

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Speaker 1: and then we'll get into it. Little teaser like that.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to two Guarding Dads. I am Maddie j

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Speaker 1: and As and this is a podcast all about parenting.

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Speaker 1: It is the good, it is the bad and the

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Speaker 1: and one thing we will never do is give advice.

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, you were saying you could call it a

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Speaker 1: bomb threat.

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Speaker 2: I walked in. I saw they were having an International

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Speaker 2: Women's Day talk. I don't know. They had chairs set up,

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Speaker 2: that stage set up, and I was like, I wonder

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Speaker 2: who the guests are. I don't want to see and

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Speaker 2: one of them happened to be your former ex flame

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Speaker 2: Georgie Love.

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Speaker 1: Georgia Love, Georgie, Georgia Georgia. Okay, Georgia from the Bachelorette

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Speaker 1: nine years ago.

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Speaker 2: She actually broke your heart at the time, she did

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Speaker 2: me a favor. She absolutely, I wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be here talking to you.

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Speaker 2: How do you know that?

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't have found you. But I

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Speaker 1: just missed her, just missed her. She's on stage talking.

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Speaker 2: We got you in strategically, I would have I would

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Speaker 2: have wished. Now, looking back, I wish I said nothing.

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Speaker 1: I've seen her many times, broy times didn't look like

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Speaker 1: who are your ex girlfriends? Where are they at?

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Speaker 2: They're actually very successful?

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Speaker 1: Name one.

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Speaker 2: Natalie?

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Speaker 1: What does she do?

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Speaker 1: Have you bumped into her?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: But you, Danny Ablesons, you are like fucking seven you

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Speaker 1: guys forever fifteen years?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 1: Do you have an ex? Was it anyone?

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Speaker 2: I don't really count anymore?

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Speaker 1: You only ever had sex with one person?

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Speaker 1: Is that true?

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Speaker 2: Actually, I'm a still version of those kids, aren't mine?

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Speaker 1: Ash?

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Speaker 2: We stacked.

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Speaker 1: It's busy, it's busy. We've got a lot to get through.

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Speaker 1: You heard of this group ash starting off housekeeping with

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Speaker 2: Dad steps, not step dads.

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Speaker 1: Dad steps, not to be confused with stepdads. But they

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Speaker 2: I'm all like, yeah, lone wolf leader whatever.

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Speaker 2: If you pick the exact day and time we hit that. No,

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Speaker 2: You can't change.

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Speaker 1: You can't change the mechanics. We agree, who's the mechanic.

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Speaker 1: What we said, it's in the contract.

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Speaker 2: Someone send to me a message every day, it's.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, petrified bananas. You know that. I got a friend

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Speaker 2: Straight cash straight them? How I know that? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm just bullying you because I know, because I feel

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Speaker 1: You're a great co host.

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Speaker 1: So Laura's Laura goes, come quick, come quick, and I go,

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Speaker 1: Can you pretend like you're excited by it? And I

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Speaker 2: You forced me to do this. What do you want?

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Speaker 2: You can't have you can't have it.

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Speaker 2: Solids was funny? I love it when they get something

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Speaker 2: give me that. At my kids, maybe I could.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I can take the initiative and start her on avocado.

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Speaker 2: and then see what reaction is do the old flipper root.

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Speaker 1: I mean it is a cad. She does get pretty

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Speaker 2: They get we're excited about Yeah, unless.

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Speaker 1: They don't know. You make me feel guilty that I didn't.

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Speaker 2: Should feel terrible?

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Speaker 1: Yeah I should.

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Speaker 2: No, No, you gave it fake reactions better than no reaction.

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Speaker 1: Ash little little update on the fuel.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you will lak all the fuel the app.

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Speaker 1: I don't use the app.

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Speaker 2: What do you got for me? What is it?

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Speaker 2: They should really think about giving you a job. Thank

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Speaker 1: I believe it is a Pacific Highway.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, that's a story. That's like, we're telling your story.

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Speaker 1: This is this. Yeah, obviously we run a podcast for

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Speaker 2: You're like, Laura, give birth now.

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Speaker 1: Instead, they've got an ambulance and a police escort out

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Speaker 2: So was there a cow? Sorry?

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Speaker 2: I say all that hate for the rural doctor chat

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Speaker 2: and then it's true.

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Speaker 2: What they pull it out from? A back?

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Speaker 4: A V back is a vaginal birth after C section.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a dress type.

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Speaker 2: The V back itself is an acronym. Yes, I'm thinking

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: But that is a beautiful story.

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Speaker 2: I think that's that's a great story.

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Speaker 1: And also police escort. That's fucking Hollywood.

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Speaker 2: No, no one. I don't never been police escort anywhere.

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Speaker 1: That's a lie.

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Speaker 2: The one time I have my hand behind my back,

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Speaker 1: We've heard the story from your mother about you being arrested.

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Speaker 4: Actually sent me a video as well if you wanted to, Oh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, from of the V back. Oh, I can't wait

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Speaker 2: to see a V back in real.

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Speaker 1: Life times in your labor where there is too much

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Speaker 1: That out of the video. That's just tempting fake.

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Speaker 1: We want to hear more about the v backs.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I've learned something new. I thought it was all.

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Speaker 1: Right, all right.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a type of dress that feels good.

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Speaker 2: It does feel good. Yeah, I don't know what it

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Speaker 2: feels like. Anyway, we have twenty new reviews. Matt is

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Speaker 1: Like, I cannot tell you one of the best days

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Speaker 2: This is the reaction. Laura wanted to pop in and

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Speaker 1: I was like, amazing, phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: I cannot begin to describe how much I appreciate the

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Speaker 2: I haven't read them yet, but I will.

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Speaker 1: Ash. Yeah, Ash, we are going to change up breaking

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Speaker 1: news EPI so slightly again, because one of us actually

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Speaker 1: it's not you, it is, of course producer. Vic.

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Speaker 2: I usually do the surf reports. Does that count on radio? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Did you really good job? Haven't I had?

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Speaker 1: Literally?

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Speaker 2: Maybe should write a book? No? No, when I read

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Speaker 2: that shit, you can't.

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Speaker 1: Right, Let's be honest, I can talk audiobook podcast.

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Speaker 2: Let's start a podcast, VIC, take it away.

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Speaker 3: Scientists have confirmed what mums have known for years, rage

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Speaker 3: cleaning actual works. Studies show that scrubbing, vacuuming, and reorganizing

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Speaker 3: more than eight million views of parents furiously cleaning their

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Speaker 3: they're stressed, with many reporting they feel calmer in as

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Speaker 3: little as thirteen minutes. Experts say it's a healthy way

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Speaker 1: You have it?

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Speaker 2: Can I just say I didn't hear a word you

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Speaker 2: That was outstanding work.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you've done with Vic, but.

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Speaker 2: This new woman in the room, I was like, this

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Speaker 1: Sensation.

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Speaker 2: So rage cleaning true, it's fact. That is a fact. Vic.

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Speaker 2: Do you rage clean often?

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Speaker 4: I think Dan wishes I did.

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 1: Dan?

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Speaker 2: You know where you go makea angrier.

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Speaker 4: I'm not the cleaner in our household.

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Speaker 1: Who is Dan?

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Speaker 2: Good for him? So he rage clean?

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Speaker 3: I think Actually when I do get angry, that's probably

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Speaker 2: I just know when April's in a bad mood because

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you would never usually do that.

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Speaker 1: I'm fine. She's washing the car, she's changing the oil.

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Speaker 2: And she's like she's She'll be like, we really need

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Speaker 2: were in a back What is you pointing at? I

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Speaker 1: Do you rage clean? No?

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Speaker 2: I do what Dad's do and that's a void clean.

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Speaker 2: So I clean.

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Speaker 1: That weaponar is inconfidence?

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Speaker 2: No? Okay, what right?

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Speaker 1: Listeners?

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Speaker 2: Right? You really against me today? I look, I would

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Speaker 1: Oh, off, we do you try and backtrack now, but.

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Speaker 2: We clean different things. It's like if I'm gonna and

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Speaker 2: I thought you did it. And it's like, try and

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Speaker 4: She'll rage throw a coffee table.

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Speaker 2: She's not afraid about that, and she's way more direct

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Speaker 1: If Dan's trying to impress you, Vick, is there anything

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Speaker 1: your fancy?

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Speaker 3: No, what he does now actually is he says, what

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Speaker 3: can I take off your mental load?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 2: That's smart. I'm going to use that.

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Speaker 1: It's in a rousing phrase ever I heard one.

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Speaker 4: It is the best thing that comes out of his mouth.

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Speaker 2: it down for sure. I think that's good gear.

450
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Speaker 1: Is there anything you clean? Because Laura, if I change

451
00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:42,520
Speaker 1: the bed sheets.

452
00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good one. Every we do ours every Sunday.

453
00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:52,080
Speaker 2: Everything Doner cover every two weeks. She loves clean sheets,

454
00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,480
Speaker 2: also towels. That yeah, that's usually a pretty good one.

455
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Speaker 2: I do the lunches.

456
00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:58,000
Speaker 1: That's not cleaning.

457
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Speaker 4: Bro Oh, no, that's good.

458
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Speaker 2: I get to do you ask me what gets it going?

459
00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,760
Speaker 2: That's that's that's good gear. There's not a lot like

460
00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,560
Speaker 2: I would say. The sheets is a big one, big one.

461
00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,400
Speaker 2: If she gets in fresh sheets on a Sunday night.

462
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Speaker 1: Bam cleans the kitchen in your house after dinner.

463
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,000
Speaker 2: I reckon it's a joint effort. I usually eat later

464
00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,680
Speaker 2: than April, depending on what we're doing. But like she'll

465
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Speaker 2: put the dish washer on and then whatever's left out

466
00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,560
Speaker 2: about I'll just I'll clean that up.

467
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Speaker 1: Match made in heaven.

468
00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,720
Speaker 2: Anyway, I best be off.

469
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Speaker 1: Thanks for asking me a question, Vic, that's that's a

470
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Speaker 1: really no.

471
00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,120
Speaker 2: I didn't ask because I don't care.

472
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Speaker 1: Let's let's back it up.

473
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Speaker 4: Does Laura Rage clean in your house or are you

474
00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:42,040
Speaker 4: the Rage cleaner?

475
00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:42,840
Speaker 2: No?

476
00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,120
Speaker 1: I'll clean the kitchen. The kitchen needs to be clean.

477
00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,359
Speaker 1: The bedroom is always messy. They're always closing the floor.

478
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Speaker 1: I did move all the clothes.

479
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Speaker 2: You do the laundry and stuff, don't you?

480
00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,480
Speaker 1: Kind of everyone in the house. Does the laundry?

481
00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:55,119
Speaker 2: Was Nana do?

482
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Speaker 1: She does a bit of everything must been nice. There

483
00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,280
Speaker 1: is no But on the weekend Sunday, Laura started rage

484
00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,080
Speaker 1: cleaning and I antagonized.

485
00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:07,480
Speaker 2: It's not like me to I was just going to

486
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:08,520
Speaker 2: ask you this exact question.

487
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 1: But I antagonized because she was really barking orders.

488
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,800
Speaker 2: At me, like stand up to her.

489
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Speaker 1: Bro I started calling a boss, Oh yeah, I do

490
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,400
Speaker 1: that too. So she was like, can you just move

491
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 1: the box in the garage that's been sitting there? Said yes, boss,

492
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,320
Speaker 1: they hate and then she's like, and then this suitcase

493
00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 1: needs to go into the house.

494
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Speaker 2: I was like, absolutely, right out of the bus right away, sir, behalf,

495
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:34,240
Speaker 2: that's get I like that.

496
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,400
Speaker 1: But I did do the garage, which only gets done,

497
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,240
Speaker 1: like you know, once in a blue moon. I think

498
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,200
Speaker 1: last time I did it was like four months ago.

499
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 2: Because your garage, there's no storage in the actual garage itself.

500
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,840
Speaker 1: Everything kind of gets pushed inside and then eventually gets

501
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,960
Speaker 1: too much that the car can't from the garage, and

502
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,240
Speaker 1: so the car has been on the street for the

503
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Speaker 1: last two weeks. I was like, now it's time to

504
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:53,480
Speaker 1: clean the garage.

505
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 2: Is the pram still there from city to the surf

506
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:56,880
Speaker 2: two years ago. No, we got rid of that pram

507
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 2: because I went back a year later and to get

508
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 2: something out of the pram and nothing thing had come out.

509
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 2: There was food in there.

510
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,440
Speaker 1: But I didn't even get much of a reaction. Cleaned

511
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 1: the whole garage, a lot of gave me nothing.

512
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was like, we want to add a boy. Yeah,

513
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 2: I just want like or is it more like like

514
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,160
Speaker 2: you shouldn't be praised for that, Like you shouldn't be

515
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 2: praised for just doing what you should be doing. I

516
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 2: think even that case, you should be like thanks, babe,

517
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,880
Speaker 2: Like I would say thanks, she did it, I would

518
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 2: say thanks if you did my.

519
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,920
Speaker 1: Guy, I said, I said. We went to bed that

520
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 1: night and I was like, you know, we all busted

521
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,159
Speaker 1: our asses today. And she was like I wouldn't go

522
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,880
Speaker 1: that far, and she said one of us did.

523
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 2: I was like me, sorry, boss. Yeah. It was like

524
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 2: this a performance review.

525
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 1: And the hard thing with Laura was she was going

526
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 1: through the kids toys because there was just like mountains

527
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,640
Speaker 1: of little soft toys. You've got so many of those

528
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 1: little things fucking just gathering dust. None of them get

529
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:52,879
Speaker 1: played with, So what do you do with them. So

530
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 1: we're giving them all to the Salvos. Oh yeah, yeah,

531
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 1: donating them all. And then Laura was like, I feel

532
00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 1: really guilty because of the toys, the feelings, like the

533
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 1: toys toy story. She was like, you know, you know

534
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,720
Speaker 1: when Andy's putting the toys in the attic and yeah,

535
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 1: She's like, these poor toys. Yeah, they're leaving our home

536
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: and I don't feelings Laura, and I was like, I

537
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 1: think they're fine.

538
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 2: Do you get the kids involved in the of the

539
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 2: declor of the toys?

540
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 1: Well we did, just because they were like, what guys doing?

541
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, nosy, so fucking no room.

542
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 1: And we were like, we're giving them to people who

543
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 1: are really going to love these toys. We've got too many,

544
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 1: so you can choose five little soft toys and the

545
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 1: rest we're going to give away.

546
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 2: April does a clean out of the toys with the

547
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 2: kids all the time, because it's just like you're saying,

548
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you've just got amount of stuff

549
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 2: that someone's given you, and it's like we thought we

550
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,199
Speaker 2: just did this, but the kids are on board, were

551
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 2: giving giving it.

552
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Speaker 1: To Sunday just gone. The rage cleans the full effect

553
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 1: Sunday night. We all felt great. Good to hear we

554
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:51,880
Speaker 1: all felt really good.

555
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 2: We made a mess.

556
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: We feel like we accomplished a lot. The sense of

557
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 1: accomplishment was great, very fulfilling.

558
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 2: It's a good way to reset for the week. They

559
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 2: nailed it. There, it is nailed it.

560
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Speaker 1: Hey guys, it is Matt here. As you probably know

561
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: that this part of the episode is when we're going

562
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: to take a moment to talk about Ash's journey of

563
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 1: sobriety and just want to be completely honest and transparent

564
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: that it does get really deep and we're thankful that

565
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: Ash is brave enough to talk about his journey in

566
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 1: all its detail. Some of the topics will be quite confronting.

567
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 1: So if you're not in a position where you want

568
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 1: to hear that, I would recommend tuning off now and

569
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Speaker 1: join us in the next episode. Hey, Ash, Yes, I

570
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: have been at you a bit this episode, and I apologize.

571
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 1: I've been in a funny mood. Funny mood, I've been

572
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: bullied by Laura. So I come in and I'm like,

573
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm the bullied person becomes the bullied.

574
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Speaker 2: Well at least I can take it, but I do, and.

575
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Speaker 1: I am being so genuine. When I say this, I

576
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 1: do want to say congratulations, thank you, because it's a

577
00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 1: huge milestone you've recently clicked up, clicked over. I'm over

578
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: ninety four, ninety three, I think ninety three days sober.

579
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Speaker 1: By the time it comes out.

580
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 2: It'll be like one hundred, it will be one hundred

581
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 2: day hundred yeah, yeah, one hundred days. I'm actually shocked,

582
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 2: so am. I I think like last year was a

583
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 2: very very The last couple years have been pretty big

584
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 2: years for me, just like travel work, and you know

585
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 2: what it's like doing this sort of work. They throw

586
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 2: booze at You're like dance monkey, you know what I mean,

587
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 2: And so I sort of leant into that a lot.

588
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: But then watching you enjoy a beer is not art.

589
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: It's I remember one time our flight was delayed like

590
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,959
Speaker 1: ten minutes, and you were like perfect, and you came

591
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: back with two beers for yourself.

592
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 2: Thank you.

593
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: You fucking just attack those beers like it was a

594
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: man going.

595
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,199
Speaker 2: They hate seeing me coming, I don't for sure, and

596
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 2: artenders are trembler.

597
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: And there it comes. Yeah, and you love a drink.

598
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 2: I do, I do drink. I do love a drink.

599
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 2: But yeah, I was I thought I was at the

600
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 2: point at the back end of last year where I

601
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 2: set a date in mind in December, which is ambitious

602
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 2: considering that it's the start of summer, right, and I

603
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 2: had a date in mind because I was physically ill

604
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: thinking about it. I was like, this has been a

605
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 2: huge year. I've been to the States a bunch of times.

606
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 2: I feel like I just partied so much and I'm

607
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 2: not let's face it, I'm not getting any younger. Mat

608
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 2: I'm not getting any younger. And I just felt I

609
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 2: just felt disgusting. You know, do you ever feel like

610
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 2: you feel like, Okay, well I just need a detox,

611
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 2: and usually our detox for like a week or something

612
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 2: like I'm cured. But I put a date in place,

613
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Speaker 2: which was the seventh December, and I was I was

614
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 2: actually ready long before that, but I had commitments that

615
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 2: I knew at that point that I was I was

616
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: going to drink at So I was like, I didn't

617
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 2: want to set myself up to fail. From the seventh

618
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 2: of December, I didn't say yes to anything else.

619
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Speaker 1: December, I think, for the majority of people is the

620
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: month they drink the most. Yeah, and so you think, gosh,

621
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Speaker 1: you you've like started a marathon at the bottom of

622
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: a hill where you're like straight out of the gates,

623
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Speaker 1: you go on uphill NonStop for four weeks.

624
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, I was like, how is this

625
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: going to go? First of all, because it is the.

626
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: First week the hardest, or is it peaks and troughs like.

627
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 2: Peaks, and so the first say the first week, usually

628
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 2: what people do when they go I'm gonna have a

629
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 2: break from our call, they turn into a fitness freak

630
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 2: and they burn themselves out and then they just fall

631
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 2: straight back in their old habits. And I have done that.

632
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: Guilty big time. I've done that before. I've had months off,

633
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 2: or I'm like, all right, I'm going to run a

634
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 2: million kilometers because I can't do things in halves. I've

635
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 2: got to do it. Info I was like, OK, I'm

636
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 2: not going to be that guy just goes an exercise

637
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 2: the first week. I'm going to go give myself a

638
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 2: break and go all right, eat whatever you want. You're

639
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 2: not drinking, eat whatever you want, enjoy that oreos pretty

640
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 2: much packets on packets oreos. And also it was because

641
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 2: I was detoxing that week. I felt horrible. It might

642
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 2: have been our last record or something that around time,

643
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 2: and I was just like physically felt sick, like I

644
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 2: was like fucking oh, Like how bad is this for me?

645
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: And then I sort of eased into the exercise and

646
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 2: eased into eating better and having a bit more of

647
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: a routine because I had no routine, and that's part

648
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: was part of the problem. My wife is king of

649
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 2: the routines, like she just sticks to it, and I'm

650
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 2: the opposite. And I was like, okay, eased into doing

651
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: some exercise and it actually made it so much easier.

652
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 2: By the time I got to a month, I was

653
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 2: shocked that it was already a month and I was like, wow,

654
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 2: But I thought I was past the hardest part, but

655
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 2: I wasn't. I was probably past the hardest part in

656
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: terms of metabolizing it, trying to shake it, shake the

657
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 2: daily habit, and try and form new habits for however

658
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 2: long I was going to go for.

659
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: Then what was the hardest part.

660
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Speaker 2: The hardest part was about day sixty one. Thing was

661
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 2: really hard that I wasn't expecting was the break that

662
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: we had because this here is an outlet for me too,

663
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 2: and I really was struggling with my mental load because

664
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Speaker 2: I didn't have outlet to go. I think I might

665
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 2: have said that to you. Midway through. I was like, fuck,

666
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 2: I missed the I didn't realize that how important it

667
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 2: was to sit down with you on a Tuesday and

668
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: just have an hour of bitching about the week that was,

669
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: which is so relieving, and people underestimate the power of

670
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 2: just talking. And when we came back from that, I

671
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 2: was one relieved, and then two I had still had

672
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: my regular therapy booked in, and I remember.

673
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: I need to start charging you for these sessions you do.

674
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 2: You can make some good money of me, especially my

675
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: therapist is rolling around a yacht and yeah, around that

676
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: day sixty mark, what I would usually do with alcohol

677
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: wood was that when you call me yeah, it would

678
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 2: suppress the inner voice that I have, which hasn't really

679
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 2: had a full platform since I was fourteen years of age.

680
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: So you put in twenty one years of suppressing that.

681
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 2: It came thick and fast to the point where it's

682
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 2: like I remember waking up and like being fresh, which

683
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 2: is nice, but my brain being like you suk, Like

684
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 2: that's my first thought. And I got to the point

685
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 2: where it was like.

686
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: Oh, is it triggered to anything or it would just

687
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: come out with that from the get go.

688
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: It would come out with that from the get go

689
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 2: because I hadn't dealt with it, I'd just hit it.

690
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: I'd pushed it back down for so many years that

691
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: it came at me with it was so critical about

692
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 2: everything that I was doing, to where I would be

693
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 2: like it would then completely ruin my day and ruin

694
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 2: April day and ruined my kid's day. And there was

695
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 2: a plenty of nights there where it was like this

696
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 2: is all too hot. Yeah, it's so I got to

697
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 2: the point where it was like I can't believe got

698
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: like another thirty years of this of putting up with me,

699
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 2: and then I spoke to you about it. Where I

700
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 2: was at and trying to find tools to manage those

701
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: thoughts and having to also like just like learn how

702
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 2: to regulate my emotions again, it was just like fuck,

703
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 2: Like I was having worse days than good days, and

704
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: it was tough because kids are on school, holidays, we

705
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 2: were away together, all these sort of things that you know,

706
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 2: I would be like fine on the surface, but underneath,

707
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 2: I'd be like, oh fuck, Like whatever it was that

708
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: I was doing, my brain was like, we can fix

709
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 2: this with just something really simple, and that was having

710
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 2: a drink because it would suppress it, suppress the negative thoughts,

711
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: suppress that you're not good enough stuff, And how.

712
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: Do you battle that when you're by yourself in your

713
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: own thoughts.

714
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: I think acknowledging it has been really helpful. I mean,

715
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: my therapist has said, look, you're at a position now

716
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: where the real work actually starts here. And it's so

717
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 2: true because the start of it is like all habit

718
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 2: and you don't think that it's a problem for you,

719
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: and then you get to a clearer mind and you

720
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 2: kind of think, I can't wait to get to that

721
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 2: sixty days to be like, oh I'm fine.

722
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: I'm over the humph. We're like in the meadows. Now

723
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: we can run free.

724
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: And yeah, there's no safety net. Now, there's nothing to

725
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: stop it, there's nothing to push it down. And I

726
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: said to April, I said, I feel really bad because

727
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: this was around that sixty seventy daymark. I said, I

728
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: feel really bad because my mood is unfortunately, you guys

729
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 2: have to bear the grunt of that. And she was like,

730
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: I would prefer that than how you were, Like, that's

731
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 2: that hit me pretty hard. And then I sort of

732
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: got closer to that ninety day mark, and I started

733
00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 2: to realize that I started to feel guilty that I

734
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 2: hadn't been giving one hundred percent. I haven't been giving

735
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 2: one hundred percent of my kids until now, where I'm

736
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 2: so present. The relationships are better, Like I felt, I

737
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 2: feel felt horrible that, like, these kids look up to me,

738
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 2: but I was half there, half not. And that's the

739
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 2: first you know, I started this journey just to have

740
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 2: a break. But the thought of not being there, the

741
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,719
Speaker 2: thought of giving it up, giving up what I've built

742
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: now with my kids, Like the relationship is so much better.

743
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 2: I'm so more in tune with their emotions. I'm not

744
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 2: snapping back. I'm not I'm not short because of my

745
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: selfishness of the day before or the night before. I'm

746
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 2: sort of in a position where I'm like, I don't

747
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: want to drink again.

748
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: If that's what's well, it's going to the impact is

749
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: going to have.

750
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: But on the other end, it's it's giving giving that up.

751
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 2: It's also like it's heartbreaking because I've leant on it

752
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 2: for twenty one years. It's like losing like losing it

753
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 2: as friend. But the impact it's having on me and

754
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: my family is just I can't give that up.

755
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: That I'm so proud of you. You're doing such a

756
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: fucking good job, and I can't even begin to fathom

757
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: how hard it is to be in your position, Like

758
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: you know, I like, life is fucking tough, right, and

759
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: there are so many moments where I'm really struggling, and

760
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: yet I'm not having I'm fortunate to not have that

761
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: internalized battle with myself. And when I hear you talk

762
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: about I remember you called me and you were saying,

763
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: you know, it's like, why do I hate myself internally?

764
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: Why am I fighting myself here? And I can't even

765
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: believe how hard that must be to get through every

766
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: day when you're not just battling through life, but then

767
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: battling yourself as well, and you're just swimming what feels

768
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,959
Speaker 1: like against the tide every single day. But to see

769
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: you come up through that and where you are now,

770
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: like I am just bursting with pride, and I think

771
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: you were doing a phenomenal job. I know. It's weird

772
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 1: because you kind of think a journey like this is

773
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: going to come with a big build up of like

774
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: I'm setting off in this big expedition, like wish me luck,

775
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: and it kind of just happened like under the radar,

776
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: and it's built up slowly now to where you are now,

777
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: and like the healing that you're doing is just phenomenal.

778
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 2: It's like, don't get me wrong, Still, every day is

779
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 2: a batter with my brain. I think that's the hardest part,

780
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 2: is the trying to try to tame that beast that's

781
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 2: been suppressed for so long that now it's like, okay,

782
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 2: well it's so hard to explain, like the continual conversation

783
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: in my head, and it's like I don't have anything

784
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: to suppress that anymore. It's like now I've got to

785
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: hit it head on. And I feel like I have

786
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 2: as much as I can and as best as I can.

787
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 2: And some of the moments up for the last ninety

788
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 2: days have been pretty dire where it's like, if it

789
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 2: wasn't for my kids and stuff, I probably wouldn't be here.

790
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 5: I'm honest, I'm just gonna I.

791
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: Mean, so, I'm obviously very lucky to have the support

792
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 2: and the family and friends and you and thick and.

793
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

794
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 2: So I caught up yesterday with Andy Cooks, who's nine

795
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 2: years sober and sassy Scott his five years. You got

796
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 2: to spend that time with him, and yeah, that could

797
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: feel good.

798
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: Now you're making me feel bad for bullying at the

799
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: start of this episode, Oh did.

800
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: Okay gettle commercial probe.

801
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: I know you've been on this journey for a while now,

802
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: and I've been very aware there's been moments that you've

803
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: really struggled. But to see you sit here now and

804
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: to talk about your situation and the hardships of what

805
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: it's like to go through this journey of sobriety with

806
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 1: so much pain in your voice, it makes me really

807
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 1: angry because it's so unfair. And I think when you're

808
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: in your position and you're working so hard to better yourself,

809
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: to be a better man, a better husband, a better dad,

810
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: and that's met with your body punishing you. You've got

811
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: this internal fight that as you try and do better,

812
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: it's doing all it can to try and drag you

813
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: back into having alcohol again. And I think it shouldn't

814
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: be like that. If you can't even rely on your

815
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: own mind, your own internal monologue to try and give

816
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: you that lit electra push, if that's working against you,

817
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: then fuck, I can't even begin to imagine how hard

818
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: that must be for you, And I'm just so glad

819
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: that you're still there fighting every single day.

820
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 2: Everyone's going to be fighting their own demons, whatever that

821
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 2: might be. Yeah, I think, like we mentioned it before,

822
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: it's super important and what's been important that I've always

823
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: I've always said that everyone should see a therapist once

824
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,959
Speaker 2: in their life, regardless of what their circumstances are, whether

825
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 2: they especially if they've got access to doing so, or

826
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: talk to a friend like so many you know, so

827
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 2: many you know, moms and dads and stuff that approached

828
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: me and stuff and want you know, asked me about

829
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 2: it and stuff like that because they're worried that maybe

830
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: their partner might be going through the same thing.

831
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you think through those you know, one hundred

832
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: odd ninety odd days, when there were moments where you

833
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: were really doing it tough, what were the little moments

834
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 1: that really helped give you that energy to keep going.

835
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 2: There was a pretty significant moment where it was a

836
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 2: pretty rough day. I was it was already a rough

837
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 2: day made rough by a drop off of meds. Like

838
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 2: the ADHD stuff with the meds is great, but then

839
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 2: sometimes there's a drop off just even't metabolize things quicker

840
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: some days, and it happens, and I missed time, and

841
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 2: I was just like really down, like I wasn't I

842
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: was just quiet and that's not like me, as you

843
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 2: can know. And then I remember it was shower time

844
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 2: for the kids, and I remember Macey just like she

845
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 2: was in the shower and I was sitting there sort

846
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: of waiting, and she just like rubbed the steam off

847
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: the door and looked at me, and that was it.

848
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 2: I was like, fuck, Yeah, it was just a moment

849
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 2: where you're like, fuck, fuck, I can't believe that I

850
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 2: had missed so much of that, Like I was there

851
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: but not yeah, And I would spend and so much

852
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: time trying to avoid the feelings thought the responsibility. But

853
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: she was so happy and.

854
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: Just melted me. I think we've been doing this for

855
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 1: three years now, so it's kind of just like muscle

856
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: memory that we get up on a Tuesday and we

857
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: start recording. But I think it's really important not to

858
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: underestimate how brave it is for you to be open

859
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,959
Speaker 1: as you are right now about what you're going through,

860
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 1: because there are so many people out there, parents, non parents,

861
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: who are going through similar battles, and it feels for

862
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: them easier to do it alone and to not open

863
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: up to anyone and to not give oxygen to the

864
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 1: struggles and the thoughts that they're having. So I really

865
00:40:54,719 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: want to say thank you so much, you know, because like, dude,

866
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: fuck it would for you not to be here would

867
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: be like destroying me, you know, like and that's like

868
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: a selfish way of looking at it, like, but you know,

869
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 1: like I would much rather be up late fielding phone

870
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: calls with you than dealing with you not being here.

871
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 1: And I'm just so thankful that you are talking about it,

872
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 1: you know, and you'll you'll feel confident enough to talk

873
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: to me, and like, man, it's the confidence that you

874
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: have and the bravery that you have to talk about

875
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: it with everyone listening right now on the podcast, like

876
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: it's I would never want you to underestimate the strength

877
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: that you have to do that. I really want to

878
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: just say, well done, thank you, like it's amazing. And

879
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: I think we're going to pull up short on this episode,

880
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: and I think we'll park everything till next week. And

881
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: I think and if there is anyone listening right now

882
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: who has their own struggles going on, we will of

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Speaker 1: course put some links and some numbers and some contacts

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Speaker 1: for some really amazing organizations out there that you can

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Speaker 1: reach out to, but also to your friends and family.

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Speaker 1: Please reach out to them first and foremost.

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Speaker 2: And don't be too proud. That's the thing. I've always

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Speaker 2: been very vocal. I've always been very honest about my

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Speaker 2: mental health struggles, but this has been the hardest one.

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Speaker 2: And I think if I let my pride get in

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Speaker 2: a way of that or anything else, I'd regret that.

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Speaker 2: I think anyone, especially a young dad, young parent, whatever,

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Speaker 2: before you level up, that voice will tell you to

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Speaker 2: step back before you level up. So ignore, ignore that,

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Speaker 2: and level up. That's all I can say.

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Speaker 1: Fucking love you. Thank you very much, thank you, Thank you, guys.

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Speaker 2: You finally got me to cry.

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Speaker 1: I've been waiting for this day for so late. You

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Speaker 1: told me, you told you, you said, I pre warned you,

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Speaker 1: and I thought you were joking.

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Speaker 2: I tried to have this conversation a few times, but

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Speaker 2: just to try and get it out, but it's just

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Speaker 2: so it's tough.

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Speaker 1: I hope this is the first of many.

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Speaker 2: I'll cry every We'll.

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Speaker 1: See you guys next week. Two Doting Dads podcast acknowledges

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Speaker 1: the traditional custodians of country throughout Australia and the connections

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Speaker 1: to land, see and community.

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Speaker 2: We pay our respects to their elders past and present,

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Speaker 2: and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torrestraight Island,

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Speaker 2: the People's Today. This episode was recorded on gadigal Land.