WEBVTT - Kiki Morris & Troy Cullen: THE CHALLENGE AUSTRALIA - TALENT 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.720 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:03.600 TV Reload the podcast last week. 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:07.120 Theirline welcome back to TV Reload. My name's Benjamin Norris 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:09.480 and on this podcast I go behind the scenes with 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:12.840 the biggest players in television. Each episode you will get 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:16.840 a front row seat with content makers like executive producers, writers, 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:19.640 editors and casting agents, plus the talent that we see 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:22.400 on our screens. TV Reload reloads the shows that we 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:24.919 are all currently watching and gives you a better insight 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:28.680 into our television industry and our streaming services. Today. On 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:31.240 the podcast, I have the winners from the Challenge Australia. 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:35.280 It is Bachelor in Paradise Kiki and Australian Ninja Warrior Troy. 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:38.080 Keiki may have had more injuries than most, but with 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:41.120 a strong attitude and the right alliances, she managed to 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:43.320 come out on top and win some money that will 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:46.320 most likely change her life. Troy had to worry about 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:49.400 a huge target on his back with his no ninja strength, 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:52.000 but it was his social game that had him surviving. 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:55.120 With his sites now set on the Challenge Worlds, I 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:57.760 will ask Keky about her reunion with Jess Brody and 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:00.480 Kieran how she managed to push through quite a bit 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:03.080 of pain, and who she thinks deserves to join her 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:06.600 in the global fight of the Challenge Australia Worlds, soon 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:09.479 to be seen on Paramount Plus. Then Troy will talk 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:12.640 War of the Wounds, deleted fight scenes, and he will 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:16.480 defend himself against a very stinky rumor. I'll also ask 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:18.920 them five need to know questions, which hopefully will give 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:21.800 us some tea being spilt on the rest of the cast. However, 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:24.600 let's get started with today's guests. I'd like to welcome 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:27.840 Keiki and Troy, the winners of The Challenge Australia to 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:28.720 TV reload. 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:31.000 When we were doing that. 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:33.679 One hundred klimeter bike ride, it was about thirty eight 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:36.240 degrees in direct sunlight and we're wearing thermals. 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:39.200 It's the moment they fought for all season. 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:41.640 At the end of the day, you get the edit 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:43.760 you get, and you still got to say those things 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:44.440 to get that edit. 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:50.120 But where twenty two once stood, now only six players remain. 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:53.720 Watching the showback. I had no idea so many people 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:55.000 had it out for the Batschi Alliant. 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:59.160 There is only nine minutes separating first and second. The 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:03.920 only issue the edits is they exaggerate the stuff they 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:05.040 wanted and the winners. 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:07.000 That's a challenge Australia. 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:08.360 Try. 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:11.000 I'm really grateful to put out to you keep these 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:12.919 girls that were happy to. 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:13.480 See me win. 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:19.480 High KK congratulations on becoming the first female champion of 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:20.760 the Challenge Australia. 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:24.320 Look, I'm so so grateful for everyone's support. It's been 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:26.639 such a long time coming. I've been holding onto the 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:30.639 secret now for so long, so finally celebrate one of 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:32.799 the hardest things I've ever ever done in my life. 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:34.560 Really, what do they do to try and get you 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:36.640 to keep this a secret? Like, I mean do they 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:38.640 do they try and blackmail you to the offer you 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:39.640 more money, you pick, you. 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:41.880 Promise, and then you seal it with your thumb and 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:42.680 that's how we. 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:45.880 Do it, like high school days, the pinky promise. 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:48.160 No, I mean there's contracts and things in here, h 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:48.480 for sure. 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:50.880 I mean I wanted to keep it a secret as 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:53.440 well as contractually, but because we want everyone to watch 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:55.919 it and enjoy and see it as a surprise. So 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:57.880 I mean, it's just exciting to get to watch it 0:02:58.000 --> 0:03:01.600 back and relive what was such a horror and rewarding experience. 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:05.680 I don't know why. I just think it would be 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:08.960 so stressful for you, of all people, like that finale, 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:11.360 you know, how about that Blair Witch camera, you know, 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:15.000 with you running along screaming at Connor, was like, what 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:15.720 is going on? 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:18.760 I was literally just speaking with Brook Jowet, who came 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:21.560 second about ten minutes ago, and I said, he's lucky 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:23.800 he got up, because if he laid down and didn't die, 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:26.760 I was going to kill him myself, because I knew 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:29.600 in my head I had a slight I still a 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:32.360 head start on her to getting this getting across the line. 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:34.160 I had a lean on her by about fifteen or 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.440 twenty minutes still in my mind, but obviously it was 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:39.080 nine minutes. And I'm so grateful he got up and 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.280 started running again, because, like I said, he would have 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:42.840 been a dead man. I would have pushed that car 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:44.920 back over him myself if I had to do it alone. 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:48.400 Absolutely, You know, did the finale give justice to just 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:51.200 how stressful it was. I mean, I've been in reality TV, 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:54.000 so I know that what you're watching is usually about 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.560 ten times worse, But you know, watching it back, did 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:58.680 that sort of summarize how it felt at the time? 0:03:58.880 --> 0:03:59.440 I watched it. 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:01.400 Last night, and I like, this looks like a cake walk. 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:03.440 I haven't even broken a sweat in half of this. 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:06.280 Like so just for example, like when we were doing 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:08.800 that one hundred kilometer bike ride, it was about thirty 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:11.720 eight degrees in direct sunlight and we're wearing thermals. 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:13.880 I've got a lazy G string on. 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:16.400 That I'd worn to the final the elimination the night before, 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:19.800 which was literally cutting me in half like a serrated knife. 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:21.560 So I cut that off with a box caro and 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:25.000 kept riding. Then we had to run and we're boiling hot. 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:27.760 Well, then we get into a wetsuit that is a 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:30.840 steamer made for like freezing called Arctic temperatures, so you're 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:31.679 cooking in a can. 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:32.599 But it's like you was. 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:35.279 I was fermenting in my own avocado river at that 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:38.160 time while we were doing that puzzle. It was just horrible. 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:41.039 We just what they put you through is horrific. But 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:43.280 I mean that's why it's called the challenge. They want 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:44.160 to make you uncomfortable. 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:47.039 It's been a very stressful week for people watching television. 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:50.720 The White Lotus finale was stressful. The Challenge Australia, please 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:51.719 don't spoil it for me. 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:53.440 There's the Nightloaders. I haven't watched it. 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:55.600 Okay, good luck. Can I just tell you that they're 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:58.880 on par they're both very stressful final episodes of a 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:02.279 TV series. Yeah, but you've got practice. You're right, You'll 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:05.320 be okay. When you joined the show, did you think 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:08.040 that you had any chance of winning up against all 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:08.800 these other people? 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:11.320 No, and there was there's many reasons as to why 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:12.880 I didn't think I had a chance. I mean, I 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:15.520 trained with a pt for three weeks leading up to it, 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:17.279 and some of these people have trained their whole lives, 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:20.240 so that was already putting me at a disadvantage. Plus, 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:23.800 I flew directly in from Spain to Argentina after being 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:26.760 on vacation with my boyfriend, so I was not mentally 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:29.040 prepared to move into a house full of you know, 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:33.200 crazy and wonderful personalities. On top of all of that, like, 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:35.800 I try to be everyone's friend, and it's really hard 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.000 to kind of go into these situations where you've got 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:41.440 to vote people into eliminations and you've got to you know, push, 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:45.040 push pull and fight your way through, you know, the situation, 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:46.920 and knowing that you've got to kick dirt in someone's face, 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:48.920 or you've got to you know, drag someone to the ground, 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:51.320 like we saw the girls in that wrestling match, Like, 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:52.520 I'm not that kind of person. 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:53.559 It was very tough. 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:55.760 Well, you also had some of them, you know, you 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.359 had medical hurdles, you know, the whole way through the show, 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:01.560 more than anyone else seen. How did you manage to 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:04.800 pull through that? Because I remember there was so much 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.840 conversation midway through the competition that you would leave, which 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.440 means that meant that your partner would also leave the 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:12.880 competition as well. You know what was it that kept 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:13.360 you going? 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:16.039 I mean that was definitely a huge contributing factor because 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:18.760 I knew that if I go to hospital and get 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:24.279 medically dissqualified from the competition, whoever the algorithm had teaming 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:25.920 up with that week would get sent home as well. 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:30.599 So I was avoiding going to the medical center because 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:32.440 I didn't want to get sent home. And then on 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:35.560 top of that as well, I just I feel like 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:37.800 complaining a lot about it definitely didn't help because then 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:39.479 everyone in the house had a target on my back, 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:42.120 going he's got to saw back, let's kick it when 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:44.760 she's down because I talk too much about this injury 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:46.919 that everyone knew about it, and it was almost a 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:48.800 disadvantage to me as well, so I should have kept 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:49.400 my mouth shut. 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:51.479 No, they were keeping you to the end, thinking you 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:53.560 were the weakest player. You were going around saying you 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:55.120 had a bad back. You know, got to look at 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:57.200 it from the under the other side of things, you know. 0:06:58.080 --> 0:06:59.840 Yeah, right, you're right, except that you. 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:03.160 Beat all anyway, I don't. I don't think it would 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:05.120 be right of me to have this conversation with you 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:09.400 today without mentioning the spin bike trick that you managed 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:11.520 to pull off. As a gay man, I've never worn 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:13.920 a G string, but maybe a lot of gay men 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:16.080 might have and they would understand. But were you really 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:18.000 uncomfortable or was that just for show? 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:20.160 I mean, okay, So to put it into perspective, if 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:22.800 I knew I was going directly into a challenge, I 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:26.240 would have worn like a Bond's, you know, seamless. 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.120 Hideous but comfortable underwear. 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:31.400 But if you guys, remember I went from that bound 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:33.960 an elimination where I was wearing my fluorescent blazer and 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:36.560 my thigh high light of the boots. So I was wearing, like, 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.760 you know, something a little bit Sexy and Brine announced that. 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.120 We were going straight into the finale. 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:44.560 So in the end I was on a spin bike 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:47.960 and forty five degree heat in thermal tights on on 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:51.080 a bike seat which was really quite uncomfortable. And then 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:52.920 that G string, which was made of lace, was just 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:54.520 not working for me. Like I said, it was kind 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.520 of like sandpaper. So I called that to the crew 0:07:57.520 --> 0:07:59.800 instead of anyone got scissors. Luckily, one of the sound 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:03.000 had a box cut up and you kind of yeah, 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.640 cut it off. And then shortly after I ended up 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:08.040 cutting Britney's G string off for her as well. 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:09.080 While we were running. 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:11.920 It was almost like a relay, but instead of a baton, 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:14.040 we were passing the cut off G string and we 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:15.160 just kept. 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.120 It on running the box cut up for your boxes. 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:20.080 I just, you know, I think that there's going to 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:21.960 be a lot of straight men asking their girlfriends at 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:23.840 home to do that for them as a trick. They 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:25.840 were like, you know, what's your biggest turn on? Well, 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:28.400 you know the girl Kiki from the Challenge Australia that's 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:31.040 been staying in my mind. Sorry, can You're going to 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:32.400 get lumped with that, that's for sure. 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:34.720 I mean I didn't want a litter as well, So 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:36.720 I think I tucked the G string into the sleeve 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:38.680 of my shirt while I was still cycling. At about 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:40.680 two hours later, I went, why have I still got 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:41.079 this hit? 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:42.920 Get rid of it? 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:45.640 How much did you trust the people that you had 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:48.040 in the finale? You know as you as you did 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.160 sort of suspect Connor at one point was trying to 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:53.000 sabotage you so that he's bestie or he's alliance brook 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:56.200 Jay would win. Were you dubious of everyone? Was it 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:57.840 just every man for themselves? 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:01.120 I don't think I actually second guess to anyone up 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:03.600 until that point. And I was like, at that very last, 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:05.439 I think there was a you know, five kilometer run 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:07.560 left to go, and I thought to myself, why would 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:10.040 he lay down right now? And in my mind, obviously 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:12.960 that thought crossed my mind, and I obviously verbalized that 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:16.360 in that video potentially we see how alliances work. It 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:18.520 was a thought that had crossed my mind. And thankfully 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:20.160 he got up and continued to run, and I was 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:22.280 able to bring it home with that nine minute difference 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:24.280 between brook Day and I. But I mean, she was 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:27.480 an amazing athlete throughout the whole thing, and I'm really 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:29.840 grateful to have been able to compete with girls that 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:33.560 were happy to see me win and congratulated me so 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:36.960 genuinely and authentically. So I'm really grateful for both Brittany 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:39.360 and Brook through that whole experience because it was. 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:42.040 It was really hard, yeah, absolutely, and there were some 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:44.040 loose ends for you, you know, for you to tie 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.839 up from fans perspective, because you know, when we heard 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.400 who was going into the show where like Jess, Brody, Karen, 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:51.559 and then I guess we all wanted to know how 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:54.720 the reality of living together again was going to work out. 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.200 I mean, what surprised you from putting the three of 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:00.280 you back together having a backstory that was quite complicated. 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:02.880 I mean, Jess and I had kind of made amends 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:06.679 back years before after Bachelor in Paradise, and Kieran had 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:08.840 reached out out with me as well, and we kind 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:10.959 of made amends as well, So which was good because 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:13.240 I think a lot of people were expecting there to 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:16.360 be drama between us, but because I guess we've matured 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:19.400 as people and there was very very important lessons for 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:21.440 the three of us to have learnt from that time 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:23.600 during Bachelor in Paradise, so I think we all became 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:26.240 better people from that experience, and we were able to 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:28.160 bury the hatchet and kind of use it as an 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:31.480 experience that we could bond together on. I mean, having 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:33.959 Kieran as a partner on three occasions in that challenge, 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:36.400 I was really grateful for the pre for our history. 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:39.320 Everyone's partners were at home going, what's going to happen? 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:41.280 You know, Kieren's a partner. You've got a partner. I 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:43.079 don't know, I've just got a partner. But like everyone 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:44.920 would be sitting there going, what's going to happen to 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:47.480 these people? But you kind of all handled it pretty well. 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:49.120 I mean I took one look at Kieran and I 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:52.160 thought to myself, the hell was I think back then, 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:53.400 like did you know. 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:56.040 This kind's a great and he's a great guy, and like, 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:57.640 don't get me wrong, I love him dearly now as 0:10:57.640 --> 0:10:59.920 a friend, And I was like, what was I think you? 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:04.000 I mean, it was a crazy experience, and looking back, 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.400 I mean, I'm grateful to have had those memories with them. 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:09.600 Yeah. I was once said an afternoon drinks and I 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:13.080 was with four girls at the afternoon drinks, and all 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:16.480 four girls had dated him and we only worked it 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:21.080 out in like this conversation. So one of the girls 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:22.800 took a photo and send it to him, and I 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:25.240 was like, this, poor bastard, Like, you know, this is 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:27.520 his night this is his nightmare. The Witches of Eastwick 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:28.560 are coming for you, buddy. 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:30.360 I mean, you know what I mean. 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:32.240 He does shoot himself in the foot quite a lot, 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:35.920 and I'm grateful that he's obviously learned his lesson now 0:11:36.040 --> 0:11:38.000 and he's putty socks up a little bit. 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:40.200 But bless his little heart. You know, he's got a 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:40.880 really big heart. 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:44.400 He's a really genuine and authentic person and I think that, 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:46.920 you know, going on this show, he's also learned a 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:49.160 lot about himself as well, So you know, I'm really 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:51.479 happy and proud of him for how far you we. 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.320 Well, do you think our challenges are tough enough? You 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:55.320 know in this production that you're a part of that 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:58.760 will help you when it comes to representing Australia in worlds. 0:11:58.920 --> 0:11:59.640 I think our. 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:02.800 Season was training wheels and I think that the world 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.040 is going to be a real rude awakening for someone 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:07.600 like myself. I mean, Troy's a freak and he is 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:09.280 literally going to just take to it like a duck 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:12.360 to water. I, on the other hand, I'm even just 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:14.360 I'm just dreading the fact that I'm going to have 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:17.160 to go through getting my lashes. We're all over again, 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:19.839 and not having my boyfriend to talk to whenever I want. 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:21.720 And you know what I mean, like those little life 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:23.800 luxuries is what really concerns me. It's not even the 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:26.400 physical aspect yet. That hasn't really even clicked in my 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:27.160 brain yet. 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:29.360 You were a little worried about partnering up with Troy, 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:31.680 which I thought was really funny because you were saying, Oh, 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:34.480 I think he's a little soft handed. Do you prefer 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:38.119 to sort of align yourself with men that are more dominating, 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:40.359 like do you prefer a more alpha maleo? 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:43.560 Notoriously, I am very indecisive, and I mean I do 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:46.440 have an inner monologue that sometimes pykes me out of 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:49.800 my ability. So if you can't push me and say kicking, 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:52.199 like what the f are you doing? Like dig deep, 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:56.400 we're going to struggle. And I think when Troy and 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:58.640 I did Buddy Blinders, which was the challenge we were 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:00.560 partnered up. When we came second last, he said to me, 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:02.200 what do you want to do? And I said, don't 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:04.360 ask me what I want to do, tell me what 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:06.360 you want me to do. And he really needed to 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:09.080 kind of become the leader in that challenge because. 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:09.560 Don't give me off. 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:11.360 You got to keep him in mind. 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:13.960 The worst thing you can do to a woman don't 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:14.680 give her choices. 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:17.199 Well, you know, there was a lot of cat fights 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:19.960 along the way between boys and boys and girls and girls. 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:21.880 But I wanted to ask you what fight had the 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:24.439 biggest impact on your time on the show. 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:29.160 Well, look, the fight between Grant and Cyrel put me 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:33.680 into an elimination that then made me send home David 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:36.920 and Jeff Brody. So that was big for me because 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:40.120 that was pretty daunting going into elimination against people that 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:44.080 you consider your friends. But then also watching the show back, 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:46.720 I had no idea so many people had it out 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:50.000 for the Batchy Alliance. I mean, in the Batchy Alliance, 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:52.840 we were just having a good time. We weren't really strategizing. 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:55.640 I'm watching scenes back now and people are whispering in 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:58.000 rooms and writing in notebooks and plotting how to get 0:13:58.080 --> 0:13:59.080 rid of the Batchy Alliance. 0:13:59.280 --> 0:13:59.959 And we're out. 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:03.240 They're drinking cocktails, hanging out by the pool, like making up, 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:06.080 you know, crazy little monologues trying to keep ourselves entertained. 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:08.600 So I had no idea that that many people hated 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:10.000 us or wanted us out at. 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:13.120 Least, so you're just doing what the batch that holiday. 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:14.600 I mean, I got the best hand of my life 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:17.560 in Argentina. 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:19.840 And got I love you. You know, Brook Blurton came 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:22.280 off The Bachelorette, where you know, she's the star of 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:24.680 the show, and it seemed to sort of really affect 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:27.280 the way that she socialized with her fellow players. She's 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:29.200 even now come out in the media saying, you know, 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:32.960 she felt uncomfortable even having to socialize with any of you. 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:35.760 Do you think that she struggled being on an even 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:37.240 playing field this time around. 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:40.680 I think it was really funny because Brooke in small 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:42.680 groups us girls all had so much fun together. 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:43.720 But then I. 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:46.840 Think the energy of if you're an empathetic person, you 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:50.640 can really sense people's energy, and it was really kind 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:52.640 of you could cut it with a knife when there 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:57.000 was the arguments between Ryan's and Sugars and Emily's and 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:58.840 I think that for her because she wasn't a part 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:01.840 of that, but she was kind of all absorbing that energy. 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:04.600 Made a lot of people kind of want to remove 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:07.800 themselves from group environment, that group environment because it was 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:11.320 pretty stressful when you could literally cut the energy with a. 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:13.520 Knife in the house. What's next for you? 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:13.760 Now? 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:15.160 What the hell are you going to do after this? 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:18.800 Like the bench has been set so high, girlfriend, I know, 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:19.680 like I feel. 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:21.280 Like I've got a couple more challenges in me if 0:15:21.280 --> 0:15:23.640 I get invited back, and I definitely need to take 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:25.040 a long holiday with my partner. 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:26.440 I mean, I'm moving. 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:29.480 Overseas to live with him in Spain in the next year, 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:31.880 So that's pretty much it. Like I just want to 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:34.720 get get my body back to full working ability because 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:37.160 if I get invited back to another challenge, I'm going 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.240 to need to bring it because you know, I feel 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:40.400 like I could really see. 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:42.800 Myself going far in these competitions. I enjoyed it so much. 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:44.160 Do you put sort a training you're going to do? 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:47.200 You do more training than the last time before preparing. 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:49.720 To Okay, absolutely, I mean I'm going to start doing 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:53.920 some WWE style training because if there's a physical challenge, 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:55.880 I'm going to need to really end up and get 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:56.440 the job done. 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:58.440 So I'm going to start doing some jiu jitsu maybe 0:15:58.720 --> 0:15:59.960 maybe some taekwondo who know? 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:02.200 And is the money that you've won, is that going 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:04.320 to go towards you relocating to Spain? What are you 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:06.160 going to do with this money? It's the most personal 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:08.600 question that you ask anyone who wins a reality show, 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:10.360 because the viewers all want to know how they're going 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:11.240 to spend their money. 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:13.520 I mean, I've always had a dream of starting a 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:17.040 sustainable active and swimwear line as well, so that's something 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:18.760 that I really want to focus on doing. But yes, 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:20.640 a big chunk of the money will be going to 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:24.320 my relocation, and I mean putting some away. And I've 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:26.000 got a little dog that I might relocate with me 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:26.600