Speaker 1: You're listening to Is It just Me? A podcast by
Speaker 1: a couple of Mitchens the radio.
Speaker 2: Oh, the time has come, Cheery the legend of talkback
Speaker 2: radio himself, John Laws is retiring as of today, November eight.
Speaker 3: You're officially off the air after seventy years broadcasting.
Speaker 2: This is his last day doing talkback radio, which is
Speaker 2: sad for us a couple of radio nerds.
Speaker 4: Yeah, any regular.
Speaker 2: Listeners of ours know that we bloody love a good
Speaker 2: John Law's moment.
Speaker 4: Just such John Laws, Is It just Me?
Speaker 2: There'll be heats, but I'd love to play his golden bits,
Speaker 2: So it's a bit sad that we won't get those anymore.
Speaker 3: I know I'm going to miss him, but it also
Speaker 3: makes me happy knowing that we're off air and he
Speaker 3: is as well. So any blunder that he would make,
Speaker 3: we wouldn't miss.
Speaker 4: Exactly, he's bowing out just before us.
Speaker 3: I know, chicken is a coward. You want to feed
Speaker 3: us to the punch.
Speaker 2: And so if you miss it, this is how John
Speaker 2: announced that he was retiring from radio.
Speaker 5: It's time for a rest, is what I think. And
Speaker 5: you know I've done it for a very very, very
Speaker 5: very long time, and I think that I'll just call
Speaker 5: it a day and call it a day pretty soon,
Speaker 5: probably beginning of November. Beginning of November, I think is
Speaker 5: probably the time. But I've done it for seventy years.
Speaker 5: That's a long time, long time, fantastic years. Fantastic years.
Speaker 5: Had a really really good time, and love you know,
Speaker 5: most of it, loved almost every minute of it. I'll travel,
Speaker 5: I'll sit about. I'll read more than I read now,
Speaker 5: which is a hell of a lot. But I'll read more.
Speaker 5: And when I call it a day, it'll be a day.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to go away and then come back
Speaker 5: again and say, oh, it was all a mistake. It
Speaker 5: may well be a mistake, but there'll be no return,
Speaker 5: no return. That's it.
Speaker 4: It's just a bit tired. It's giving Tracy Grimshaw. I'm
Speaker 4: not old. I'm just a bit timed. What she needs
Speaker 4: to rest?
Speaker 3: Oh you know what, I can just picture him with
Speaker 3: a couppa, sitting down the book Gotch or something Scotch
Speaker 3: an afternoon late lunches with rich billionaire friends like come on.
Speaker 2: Now, I think it's safe to say that we could
Speaker 2: describe John Laws as a friend of the ship, friend
Speaker 2: of the pod. We were lucky enough to sit down
Speaker 2: with him. We'll play you that in a second. But
Speaker 2: because we're also bowing out of the broadcast game, Emily,
Speaker 2: one of our idiots, suggested for our bucket list the
Speaker 2: things we want to do before we wrap up the
Speaker 2: podcast for good. She said, John Laws sending you guys
Speaker 2: off one final time.
Speaker 4: And beautifully said, we put it on the bucket list.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we know one of his producers. He was one
Speaker 2: of our kind. Yes he is, oh, just queery years.
Speaker 4: His name's En we love. I said, do you reckon?
Speaker 2: You could get a message from John saying farewell to
Speaker 2: us and our podcast, good luck with everything whatever.
Speaker 4: And he's like, yeah, leave it with me. And I said,
Speaker 4: even if he says no, to hell with that. I
Speaker 4: don't want to be doing that. Just record that. That'll
Speaker 4: be perfect. No, no more than that.
Speaker 2: He actually recorded a message for us, But I just
Speaker 2: think he didn't realize who he was talking to.
Speaker 4: You'll soon understand why.
Speaker 2: I suspect that this is the message from John You're ready?
Speaker 5: Okay, well soll as, I hope you're happy in your retirements.
Speaker 5: I tried it once. I didn't like it very much,
Speaker 5: so I came back to work. But I hope you
Speaker 5: enjoy your retirement. You know you'll find you will get bored.
Speaker 5: But find a good woman or a good book, preferably
Speaker 5: the former, and just enjoy yourselves. But if you need
Speaker 5: any help, if you need any advice, not about the
Speaker 5: women though, that's your problem, but if you need any
Speaker 5: advice about a good book to read. There's a very
Speaker 5: good book called A Fortunate Life. I can't remember his name,
Speaker 5: the bloke who wrote it, ab Facing, Yeah, ab Facing,
Speaker 5: good book, A Fortunate Life. Read there and then and
Speaker 5: you're through that, read a bit of Irviest Hevingway, and
Speaker 5: then go to sleep. Good night.
Speaker 3: That's it, Go to sleep, good night. Thanks John, thank you,
Speaker 3: Thank you the world. We'll do our best to find
Speaker 3: a good war people, try and end a good book.
Speaker 3: He didn't remember us.
Speaker 2: Even his producer said to me, I don't know where
Speaker 2: he got the retirement thing from. I haven't mentioned that
Speaker 2: you guys were retiring, And I said, you're ending your
Speaker 2: podcast twenty eight.
Speaker 3: We're off retiring for God's sake. We're gay men. We
Speaker 3: both have good men.
Speaker 2: But anyway, we spoke to John Laws and you were
Speaker 2: very intimidated by him. You walked away from that being
Speaker 2: like that interview was a fucking shocker.
Speaker 3: That was a disaster, one of my worst ever. I
Speaker 3: was nervous because I'm a radio guy, like so are you.
Speaker 3: But you know, being a radio host, many people it's
Speaker 3: like Kyle sandaland it's the John Laws, the Alan Jones
Speaker 3: is that you kind of look up to and revere
Speaker 3: and I was just very nervous.
Speaker 2: Also one of your strengths is like keeping things flowing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but John thrives on awkward silence, and I know that
Speaker 2: about him. So I was in that interview going, oh,
Speaker 2: he's loving this.
Speaker 1: I hated it.
Speaker 6: I hate it.
Speaker 3: I hate it. I just he actually I think made
Speaker 3: it more awkward on purpose.
Speaker 4: Yeah that's what he's like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you hear it though, This is this is the
Speaker 3: moment unedited, right, Yeah, let's throw it.
Speaker 5: Hello world, I'm John Laws.
Speaker 6: John Laws. Yeah, Nate, how are you Welcome to the
Speaker 6: show the Bigger pardon? Welcome to the show. It's great
Speaker 6: to have you here.
Speaker 5: That's my show, is it our show?
Speaker 6: Is you're on our show? We're on yours? I mean
Speaker 6: you're welcome.
Speaker 5: No, No, that's one of the rules. This always remains
Speaker 5: the John Lord show. Okay, you're a visitor and you're
Speaker 5: very welcome.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 5: But it's the John Lord Show. If you could keep
Speaker 5: that in mind, I'd be extremely grateful. Got it on it.
Speaker 2: Well, we're actually here in the fortress, so this is
Speaker 2: your territory. What was your useless piece of information for today?
Speaker 5: Good? Every How could I remember three hours ago?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 6: Really?
Speaker 2: You just scrunch it up, get rid of it.
Speaker 5: Well, you've got to listen if you want to hear
Speaker 5: the useless information. Now, what are you charming people doing
Speaker 5: here in my studio?
Speaker 6: Well, we're big fans, John, We've been We've been in
Speaker 6: the industry for six years, five years, so a little
Speaker 6: dot compared to yours. Yeah, we're die hard fans. We
Speaker 6: work inside Kiss so alongside Kyle Sandalans, who you know
Speaker 6: really takes a lot of his inspiration from you.
Speaker 2: Oh he does, doesn't.
Speaker 5: He He's taken everything from me, everything, the mic, a
Speaker 5: gold microphone, the headphones, the Rolls Royce car, the lot,
Speaker 5: the lot. He hasn't got a single genuine original thought
Speaker 5: and he's rather lovely.
Speaker 6: Are you're a fan of Kyle?
Speaker 5: I like him. I like Kyle. Don't underestimate Kyle is
Speaker 5: pretty bright.
Speaker 6: He's good at what he does.
Speaker 2: They've been chatting a lot on Kyle and Jackie I
Speaker 2: Show recently about the fact that a lot of people
Speaker 2: suspect that Kyle could be secretly gay.
Speaker 5: What do he means secretly?
Speaker 2: They were telling him that you do come across that
Speaker 2: way at a glance, some people might suspect that you're gay.
Speaker 2: What do you think of that?
Speaker 5: I don't think so, and it wouldn't matter if he wasn't.
Speaker 5: I like Kyle. I get on very well with Kyle.
Speaker 5: He and I have friends. Yeah, yeah, you know, you've
Speaker 5: got to be careful. That probably was a sweeping statement,
Speaker 5: but yes, we're kind of friends. Am I having lunch
Speaker 5: with Kyle or something? Soon? Were they to organize that?
Speaker 5: I like having lunch with it. I find him music
Speaker 5: and I find him also a very genuine bloke. I
Speaker 5: think if you were in trouble, you could turn to
Speaker 5: Kyle and he'd do his best. It mightn't be very good,
Speaker 5: but he'd do his best.
Speaker 2: I think so too.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Have you had a long lunch with Kyle recently?
Speaker 5: I have prayed a fe How.
Speaker 2: Long are the long lunches, by the way, nine or
Speaker 2: ten hours?
Speaker 5: God, jeez, that's a lie. Probably thirteen.
Speaker 6: Do you drink of these long lunches you drinking these days?
Speaker 5: Am I?
Speaker 6: What drinking?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 6: You have a wine drinking?
Speaker 5: Jesus is the pope praying? Of course?
Speaker 6: Do you know?
Speaker 2: One thing that Kyle claims as he's big claim to
Speaker 2: fame is that his first radio gig was paneling your
Speaker 2: show in Townville or something. That's also my claim two
Speaker 2: PK in Parks when I was doing work experience, I
Speaker 2: had to make sure the ads for John Laws were
Speaker 2: playing in time, all of that.
Speaker 5: So that was my two PK with Betty Muzzy Chuk
Speaker 5: who don't you remember Betty? The Spicer family owned two
Speaker 5: PKH okay, and the daughter or step daughter or daughter
Speaker 5: in law or somebody. Her name was Betty Muzzy Chuck
Speaker 5: and she ran the station when I was only there
Speaker 5: one night.
Speaker 2: I hated you worked at two PIK.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I did one night for one night.
Speaker 2: What happened?
Speaker 5: They wouldn't let me smoke.
Speaker 6: In the studio.
Speaker 2: How long ago was that?
Speaker 5: Nineteen fifty four? Probably?
Speaker 2: Okay, do you still smoke or if you quit?
Speaker 5: Oh? No, I quit ages?
Speaker 2: Okay? Would you like to try a vape?
Speaker 5: That's bloody stupid.
Speaker 6: She just hooked on the vabes.
Speaker 2: No, I'm quitting.
Speaker 5: Is it difficult to quit? What? Why would you take
Speaker 5: up something that is difficult to quit?
Speaker 2: Well, I think for people.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you why. Yeah, because you're young and stupid.
Speaker 2: No, I can't argue with that. Actually that's completely fair.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I always tell people don't start them because
Speaker 2: they're way easier to get hooked on than cigarettes. There's
Speaker 2: no this tastes gross to overcome. They're just pleasant from
Speaker 2: the get go, So don't go there. It's always my advice.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, you're giving very good advice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do as I say, not as I do.
Speaker 5: You're maturing at an early age. You're giving very good advice.
Speaker 5: Don't do it if it's going to be addictive and expensive.
Speaker 5: Good advice that includes marriage unless you're very careful.
Speaker 6: Ah, John, I I was listening to your speech at
Speaker 6: the Kennedy Awards, the Lifetime Achievement Award, which congratulations, by
Speaker 6: the way, that's very exciting.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 6: I just love my life.
Speaker 7: I haven't made.
Speaker 5: Particularly ruined. I lost my friend Ryan, but I also
Speaker 5: lost my.
Speaker 4: Adorable Carol, who.
Speaker 5: Was fifteen years old now she's gone out of my life.
Speaker 5: That makes me sad in case would like there's a
Speaker 5: kind of vegan difference.
Speaker 1: Thank you are very very much.
Speaker 6: You said that you didn't intend to get into broadcasting,
Speaker 6: so I guess I want to know how did you
Speaker 6: fall into it?
Speaker 5: Well, I was a jackaroo in Wellington in central New
Speaker 5: South Wales, and I love being a jackaroo. I would
Speaker 5: love to be a jackaroo again, but I can't afford it.
Speaker 5: But I used to. I used to go to the
Speaker 5: Legacy Ball and the Bachelor's Ball and the Spinster's Ball,
Speaker 5: and they used to get me to do a commentary,
Speaker 5: you know, to introduce people as they came in the door.
Speaker 5: And there was a man there from a w A
Speaker 5: which were at that time as a huge concloine a
Speaker 5: lot of radio stations all over Australia. And he heard
Speaker 5: me and he asked me did I want to get
Speaker 5: into into radio? And I wasn't sure. But the man
Speaker 5: I was working for, a wonderful welksman by the name
Speaker 5: of Llewellyn Powell. He thought it would be a pretty
Speaker 5: good idea if I were to do that and get
Speaker 5: me off his property and get me somewhere else. So
Speaker 5: I just fell into it that way and loved it.
Speaker 2: Fell in love with it clearly. Yeah, how long have
Speaker 2: you been doing it now?
Speaker 5: Sixty eight? Are you taking notes?
Speaker 6: There?
Speaker 5: I chose you. It just shows you how involved that's
Speaker 5: the Mother Siberia. I'm doing a very important interview with
Speaker 5: two very important young men, and she's doing a bloody crosswork.
Speaker 2: Jesus, it's so nice to put a face to the
Speaker 2: name the Mother sapirior I here referred to all the
Speaker 2: time on the show.
Speaker 5: Well, are you impressed?
Speaker 2: I am absolutely. She's pretty much what I envisioned. Actually, yeah,
Speaker 2: is she really?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Well, she gave us a talking to before we came in.
Speaker 6: You said you're up to no good. You're going to
Speaker 6: be good, and we said, yeah, we'll be right, We're
Speaker 6: on our best behavior.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's the way to be. Yeah, that's right,
Speaker 5: all right. So what else do you what to talk about?
Speaker 2: Well? I should have given you heads up before we
Speaker 2: started that on the podcast. I don't know if you're
Speaker 2: much of a swearer, but you're allowed to swear here?
Speaker 2: Do you swear much?
Speaker 5: Don't be fucking stupid? But that word has become almost
Speaker 5: acceptable now except around here. She hates it.
Speaker 2: The Mother Superior hates that.
Speaker 5: Doesn't like me swearing at all.
Speaker 2: Would the Mother Superior appreciate being described as a boss bitch,
Speaker 2: because that's what I would think. The Mother Superior is
Speaker 2: a what a boss bitch?
Speaker 5: What's that mean?
Speaker 2: It's a wonderful term. Don't worry, powerful woman. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: it is the word bitch there, It's a term of endearment.
Speaker 2: It's all about context.
Speaker 6: You back and empowering.
Speaker 5: Don't don't use that word.
Speaker 2: My apologies, I take it back, Mother Superior, take advance.
Speaker 2: What's your advice for someone like Mitch to last that
Speaker 2: long in radio?
Speaker 6: It's been seven so far.
Speaker 5: My advice to Mitch give it away? Yeah, get out,
Speaker 5: get a job as a salesman at Bunnings.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: No, no, I'll give you very good advice. Enjoy it.
Speaker 5: If you enjoy it, do it. If you don't enjoy it,
Speaker 5: don't do it. And be natural. Don't bullshit, no change
Speaker 5: of voice, no change of attitude.
Speaker 6: Just got to be you authentic.
Speaker 5: Yeah that's well, I don't know how authentic you are,
Speaker 5: but yeah, just be yourself.
Speaker 6: In other words, now, what happened in the middle because
Speaker 6: you left for a bit, you had a big retirement.
Speaker 6: You were out and then you came back. Yeah, you
Speaker 6: missed it too much.
Speaker 5: I did miss it. I missed it greatly, and I
Speaker 5: got very bored with my own company, even though up
Speaker 5: until that time I'd been pretty good with my own company.
Speaker 5: I love reading, I love sitting by myself, I love thinking.
Speaker 5: But I did get bored. I did get bored, and
Speaker 5: I thought, you know, it would be fun to go
Speaker 5: and do it again. And it's more fun the second
Speaker 5: time around than it was the first time around.
Speaker 6: Really, Yeah, fell back in love with it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh, no, better now.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: We like to play on our podcast some bits of
Speaker 2: Gold that happened on talkback radio because we figured that
Speaker 2: our younger listeners might not be listening as often as
Speaker 2: we are, so we're like, if anything good happens, we'll
Speaker 2: tell you. And you've come up many times, including the
Speaker 2: infamous Pikes Nursery incident that.
Speaker 1: Caller, I'll tell you what to do ring Pikes Nurseries.
Speaker 1: What nursery, Pikes Pike Yes, p y k E s I.
Speaker 5: Hey, what am I known to deserve this?
Speaker 1: Of course? Would you spell that again for me?
Speaker 7: Hey? I A.
Speaker 3: Did you say no?
Speaker 1: Man? No?
Speaker 8: I said, P why, oh why esp? Why is in Yankee?
Speaker 8: K is in kilo? He is in echo? S is
Speaker 8: in stupid Pikes? P y k e s Pike's nurseries?
Speaker 9: Hey?
Speaker 7: Why I?
Speaker 1: But will we try it again?
Speaker 9: Ma'am?
Speaker 1: Okay, you ready?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 1: You got your pencil handy? Okay?
Speaker 7: P no P.
Speaker 1: As in piddle? Why pay? I save me from this P?
Speaker 5: PE?
Speaker 8: You've got the P there, that's right. Why why as
Speaker 8: in Yankee? That's right? Okay? Then you have a K
Speaker 8: I K as in kill.
Speaker 2: K he is it?
Speaker 10: Pay?
Speaker 7: Why A?
Speaker 8: Okay, don't get excited, ma'am. Can I ask you a
Speaker 8: leading question? Do you have trouble hearing?
Speaker 7: Ah?
Speaker 9: Here?
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, ma'am. Well we'll try it again. PE,
Speaker 1: why say why k K K is? Yes? No, K
Speaker 1: is in kill Yes? Ees? God, you got that? Would
Speaker 1: you spell? Would you spell it back to me?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 7: K why I D No?
Speaker 6: It's not right?
Speaker 8: Oh it's not right.
Speaker 1: P y k E s p I y E. Where
Speaker 1: do you get the A from? I haven't said in
Speaker 1: A anywhere? P You got the P? Right? Why? I? Why?
Speaker 6: Why?
Speaker 1: Why? Why? Why is in Yankees?
Speaker 7: Why? K O?
Speaker 1: God save me? How can a K and an e
Speaker 1: sounded like k yes, I will, I will. I throw
Speaker 1: myself right down the microphone choke you to death in
Speaker 1: a minute. That's what I'm getting.
Speaker 7: Pay y e.
Speaker 9: Did you say no?
Speaker 1: No, I didn't know.
Speaker 8: I don't think we're ever going to make it, ma'am.
Speaker 8: Are we I don't think that. I don't think that
Speaker 8: I'm ever going to be able to give you this
Speaker 8: telephone number. I mean, this is just the name. Imagine
Speaker 8: that when I start to get to the telephone number
Speaker 8: and it's a nurse is yes, it is strangely.
Speaker 1: Enough, give me the number of it? Oh God, can.
Speaker 7: I that's a telephone?
Speaker 1: That's all right here? You are you ready? I'll take
Speaker 1: the risk. Are you ready? Okay? Do you have your
Speaker 1: pen at the ready? Okay?
Speaker 5: Six?
Speaker 8: Six good, that's very good.
Speaker 9: Free three he jesus, I.
Speaker 7: Don't know that.
Speaker 10: I'll just come captus in silvarbize in my ear.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'll say it very quietly. Can you hear me?
Speaker 1: Six three very good?
Speaker 8: Six three nine nine and another nine eight eight.
Speaker 1: Very good, five five.
Speaker 8: One one, yes, yes, would you read it back to me?
Speaker 6: Nine nine five eight five one.
Speaker 8: You've got it, You've got it. I so just dial
Speaker 8: of the telephone number and God help, Bruce Pyke.
Speaker 2: I really want to hear from your point of view,
Speaker 2: what were you thinking? What were you feeling when that call?
Speaker 2: I just could not understand what you were saying.
Speaker 5: Well, I thought this is going this is going to
Speaker 5: go on forever. But I thought this could be very
Speaker 5: good radio. So I decided to stay with it, and
Speaker 5: she started to understand the humor of it. As we
Speaker 5: got towards the end of the conversation.
Speaker 2: You reckon that she was in on it too.
Speaker 5: No, no, not in on it, but I think she
Speaker 5: started to understand the humor of it. Okay, she wasn't
Speaker 5: going along with it deliberately. She was laughing at herself.
Speaker 5: It was a good call. It was a fun call.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. And it lives on in our podcast as well.
Speaker 6: At the start of every show, we play the audio.
Speaker 6: That's how we start our show every week.
Speaker 5: You didn't even ask.
Speaker 2: It's on YouTube? Did you know that?
Speaker 5: I don't go to that. I think I can't work computers.
Speaker 2: Oh well, you're paddling your show right now, aren't you.
Speaker 2: You've got some sort of understanding.
Speaker 5: That's just a board that's got stuff on it. Like
Speaker 5: Tom t Hall a bit of music here. There you are.
Speaker 5: That's how simple it is.
Speaker 2: Well, who says it can't work in a computer? There
Speaker 2: you go?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Is it just po a couple of mitches. I don't
Speaker 2: suppose you're ever going to get to that stage where,
Speaker 2: like a lot of other radio studio is like a kiss,
Speaker 2: you'll have cameras in the room filming it. They're never
Speaker 2: you don't want stuff on Facebook?
Speaker 5: Or of course I don't. Of course I don't. I
Speaker 5: do a radio program and I'm a radio broadcaster and
Speaker 5: that is the limit of my talent. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Who else do you listen to? John? Do you have
Speaker 6: any other shows that you listen to? Or do you just?
Speaker 5: Do you know what? I listened to as soon as
Speaker 5: I leave here? Yeah, at midday or whenever I leave
Speaker 5: in ABC Classic. Really I love classical music, and they
Speaker 5: pay a lot of like classical music. They play a
Speaker 5: lot of ballet music, and I love ballet music. I
Speaker 5: love the ballet. So there you are. That's surprised you Have.
Speaker 6: You ever podcasted? Have you ever you know how to
Speaker 6: listen to podcasts? You into them?
Speaker 5: No, I don't know how to do that.
Speaker 6: You'd make a killing, do you think a podcast by
Speaker 6: John Laws would be huge?
Speaker 2: Does he know that his show with podcasts and every
Speaker 2: day you actually can listen to it as a podcast podcast.
Speaker 6: You've got one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know what it is even.
Speaker 2: You know how Netflix is TV shows on demand. Podcasts
Speaker 2: are radio shows on demand. That's pretty much the basic
Speaker 2: way of explaining it. And that's what we are.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 2: You can't tune in at a certain time to us,
Speaker 2: We're just there whenever you're like not live.
Speaker 5: No, well it can't be. Nah. Are you bored now?
Speaker 6: No, not at all.
Speaker 5: On the slightest, I don't want to bore you.
Speaker 6: No, we're not bored.
Speaker 2: No, not at all.
Speaker 6: I'm hoving this.
Speaker 2: You know another old job that John used to have,
Speaker 2: Mitch am I right in saying it used to be
Speaker 2: what we call a rouse about in a shearing shed.
Speaker 5: That's exactly what I was.
Speaker 6: Oh, what's a rouse about in a shearing shed?
Speaker 5: You pick up the dregs and the shit off the
Speaker 5: tails of the lambs on the DAGs. Yeah, and you also,
Speaker 5: if you're lucky, you get to use the wool press
Speaker 5: a bit. And pressing the wool let's tough work, but
Speaker 5: it's great fun.
Speaker 6: How long did you do that job?
Speaker 5: For eighteen months?
Speaker 2: I wouldn't last a day. I was a farm boy,
Speaker 2: raised on a farm. Mom and dad used to always
Speaker 2: try and get me to help out with that stuff,
Speaker 2: but I was like, not for me. I was a
Speaker 2: bit too precious for that.
Speaker 5: With that surprising, I can tell you're a bit precious.
Speaker 5: I've detected that.
Speaker 2: But I was smart enough to realize if I do
Speaker 2: that job really badly, they'll stop asking for help. So
Speaker 2: I just kept stuffing up. It was fantastic.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but if you did it well, then keep asking
Speaker 5: you to do it, and they would have. But it
Speaker 5: would have been very good for you. All that wool
Speaker 5: press stuff was good. All that woolshared stuff was good.
Speaker 5: And the blokes, the shearers and the mates you'd make
Speaker 5: and the shearers cook sair, they could cook. They used
Speaker 5: to cook great stuff, shepherd spie, cottage pie. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But they would bring food to serve. Because I ended
Speaker 2: up when I was no good at the rouse about judies,
Speaker 2: I ended up serving morning tea like I was the
Speaker 2: one giving the food. So they would bring food.
Speaker 5: No, no, they'd cook it there, but yes, they'd bring
Speaker 5: the food with them. Oh, they were good. Too, the
Speaker 5: shed of shearing cooks.
Speaker 2: Yeah great, Yeah, you had a way better sharing shed
Speaker 2: experience than me. It was hell on earth for me.
Speaker 6: Could you tell me she's a country boy boy? Looking
Speaker 6: at him? Born and raised it. Where is it Parks?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well it depends which part of the country.
Speaker 2: Have you heard of bogan It's just near Parks, That's
Speaker 2: where I'm from. You're where bogan Gate.
Speaker 5: I've heard of. I've been to bogan Gate, haven't I?
Speaker 6: Have you been to bogan Gate? Is there a station
Speaker 6: in bogen Gate? Meet your radio station?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 4: Parks is are like.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no. But I when I went around Australia,
Speaker 5: I wasn't doing radio. I was just going around Australia.
Speaker 2: Yeah, blink and you'll miss it.
Speaker 5: That's It's a very good idea, you know. People. I
Speaker 5: remember my sister as soon as she turned fifteen or something,
Speaker 5: all she talked about was going to England. She just
Speaker 5: wanted Everybody wanted to go to England. Nobody by the
Speaker 5: day of a look at Australia, the greatest country in
Speaker 5: the world.
Speaker 2: I've always thought that, like everyone's excited now that you know,
Speaker 2: international flights are a thing again. After lockdown, But I
Speaker 2: would rather just travel Australia like all the ruined stuff
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 5: It's a good thing to do. It's a great country.
Speaker 6: Do you have a favorite city or you're a Sydney boy,
Speaker 6: You've always been a Sydney boy.
Speaker 5: I'd like if you settled into a place long enough,
Speaker 5: it becomes your favorite.
Speaker 6: Did you ever live overseas?
Speaker 5: Never lived overseas? No?
Speaker 2: I believe you were working in the ua U though.
Speaker 2: Weren't you when JFK was assassinating you reported on that?
Speaker 2: Am I right?
Speaker 5: Yes, that is quite right. I bear in mind this
Speaker 5: is a long, long time ago.
Speaker 10: Is a sad day in the history of the United States.
Speaker 10: The President of the United States of Ricker John Fitzgerald
Speaker 10: Kennedy has been assassinated, killed by a rifle bullet. I'm
Speaker 10: in Hollywood, in California, and in a matter of ours,
Speaker 10: I've seen probably one of the most colorful cities in
Speaker 10: the world become a city in math morning. And this
Speaker 10: is just one city of an entire nation. In Bonny,
Speaker 10: grown men and women crying openly, almost probably in the
Speaker 10: streets of Hollywood. All the entertainment has ceased in Hollywood,
Speaker 10: the hub of the world entertainment shops and offices and
Speaker 10: factories closed within a matter of minutes of the announcement
Speaker 10: of the President's death. That's all I have for you now.
Speaker 10: So from the midst of this national tragedy has left
Speaker 10: America lifeless and then sorrow. I returned you to your studio.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I remember to day like it was yesterday. That
Speaker 5: was I've got to say, that was a good report.
Speaker 5: I did good. I went there to open the coaxial
Speaker 5: cable that came from the United States to Canada, actually
Speaker 5: to Australia. The Queen opened it, and I was the
Speaker 5: support actor after the queen. Right, yeah, how about that
Speaker 5: half act to following.
Speaker 2: Have you ever in your career had a co host
Speaker 2: or has it always been the John Laws Show?
Speaker 5: The John Laws Show co host?
Speaker 6: Not for you.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't think that would work.
Speaker 5: Listen. If you're getting any ideas, forget it.
Speaker 6: No, God, no, he's got his resume.
Speaker 5: In the bank. It's always been just me. For a while.
Speaker 5: I did half an hour was I can't even remember
Speaker 5: her name now, wonderful woman broadcaster, jeez, I can't remember
Speaker 5: her name. John Perce used to work with her, and anyway,
Speaker 5: I can't think of it, and it doesn't matter because
Speaker 5: she thoroughly did. But for a while I did that
Speaker 5: and I loved it.
Speaker 6: Have they ever paired you up with anyone, because in radio,
Speaker 6: especially commercial radio, they love to throw a co host
Speaker 6: just experiment. Yeah, they had a co host thrown at you.
Speaker 6: Or have they ever tried to squeeze someone in and say, John,
Speaker 6: we think you'd be good with this person.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they probably have, but I would have told.
Speaker 6: Him, yeah, get out. We get all the reality stars
Speaker 6: in commercial radio. They'll say to me, oh, this person
Speaker 6: one Love Island Australia, they won Big Brother, get them
Speaker 6: on the show.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what for?
Speaker 6: That's what I say. They don't last.
Speaker 2: Do you watch any of those free too wear shows
Speaker 2: these says Married at First Sight, Love Ireland, those sorts
Speaker 2: of shows.
Speaker 5: You're kidding?
Speaker 2: Yeah, neither, not for me.
Speaker 6: It's not for us.
Speaker 2: What about music? Are there any new artists that are
Speaker 2: out and at the moment that you actually enjoy?
Speaker 5: I just love all music fair enough, As I said,
Speaker 5: I listened to as soon as I've finished here, I
Speaker 5: turned the radio on in the car to ABC Classic.
Speaker 5: I love classical music. I love Bruce Springsteen at the moment,
Speaker 5: I'm playing a lot of a lot of his stuff.
Speaker 5: I love my friend Roger Billet, I love Christofferson, I
Speaker 5: love music. I love music, Tom T. Hall, all those
Speaker 5: storytellers are great.
Speaker 2: Have you ever been singing yourself?
Speaker 5: I've released seventeen albums. Really, where have you been?
Speaker 2: I don't suppose that you would be able to answer
Speaker 2: this question, but I do wonder if they're on Spotify,
Speaker 2: like I'd love to be able to stream them, these
Speaker 2: old albums.
Speaker 5: I'm what where would.
Speaker 2: Someone have to go to listen to these albums?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 6: Here there we go, Oh we've been handed them.
Speaker 2: Look at this a couple of CDs.
Speaker 1: Early man who grow bulls?
Speaker 5: When you long?
Speaker 1: You really got it? Me in you all and good?
Speaker 6: Look at you here with a denim jacket on. This
Speaker 6: is the Mind and the Music.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was called the Mind of the music. Was
Speaker 5: because it was an album of poetry and I wrote
Speaker 5: all the music and I wrote all the words, so
Speaker 5: it was called the Mind and the Music.
Speaker 6: Look at this, all the women in the shorts. You've
Speaker 6: never been trucked like this before.
Speaker 10: I like that.
Speaker 5: I knew you'd like that, And I loved singing. I
Speaker 5: love singing. We had a lot of releases and did
Speaker 5: pretty well. Now put them down.
Speaker 6: Can we keep these and these for us? For all these.
Speaker 2: That's all right.
Speaker 6: Well, you have to get them on Spotify, because there's
Speaker 6: a whole generation that have missed out on the musical
Speaker 6: talents of John Laws. Get it on what Spotify, streaming, Spotify,
Speaker 6: an iPhone, Get it on your phone.
Speaker 5: I don't want I got it there.
Speaker 2: You know he doesn't care about everyone else listening. He
Speaker 2: can listen to himself. It's all good. Did they get
Speaker 2: many radio spins? Did you ever play your own music
Speaker 2: on the radio?
Speaker 5: Yeah, because nobody else had play?
Speaker 2: Yeah, why the hell not? I reckon there, you go
Speaker 2: write that down. It's start putting out singles, and it's
Speaker 2: play them yourselves. We actually got mitched, you know how
Speaker 2: I said that we play things we hear on talkback
Speaker 2: and then we kind of take inspiration from them. We
Speaker 2: got mitched to improvise a poem because we heard one
Speaker 2: of your poems go to air. It was about country
Speaker 2: people actually in small towns.
Speaker 5: A little town is where everybody knows what everybody else
Speaker 5: is doing, but they read the weekly newspaper just to
Speaker 5: see who got caught doing it. Oh that's a good
Speaker 5: story there.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And so I heard that and I played it
Speaker 2: on our podcast and said, Mitch, I think you should
Speaker 2: start doing poetry like this, and he improvised the whole
Speaker 2: thing about Britney Spears, the whole free Britney thing.
Speaker 6: I I'd sing to music ideas, it'd be like we
Speaker 6: knew you from a girl, a young Titan Cube, but
Speaker 6: now look at you.
Speaker 3: Like an old haggard boot free Brittany. Let her out
Speaker 3: of that cage, poor poor Britney. It makes me filled
Speaker 3: with rage.
Speaker 2: Are you across the Britney Spears drama?
Speaker 5: Dad? Care? What a drama? Why don't they just leave
Speaker 5: her alone?
Speaker 6: Are well?
Speaker 2: They are?
Speaker 10: Now?
Speaker 2: So that's good.
Speaker 6: She's free, Britney's free. Now they want it.
Speaker 2: I'm sure John really appreciates that update.
Speaker 5: What am I doing talking about?
Speaker 6: Well, this was a pleasure. I've really enjoyed this match.
Speaker 6: Anything you want to get off here? Jest with John?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm wondering if we should ask him the question
Speaker 2: we ask every guest.
Speaker 6: I think you can do that.
Speaker 2: Okay, So we like every guest that we have on
Speaker 2: the podcast, we like to ask them a small thing
Speaker 2: in life that they appreciate, like Angela Bishop said her
Speaker 2: water bed. Jessica Malboy said sitting in the sun, being
Speaker 2: barefoot in a garden. That was one of her small
Speaker 2: life pleasures. The reason I'm reluctant to ask it is
Speaker 2: because we call it our list of things better than
Speaker 2: drugs and dick, which is basically a psa to young
Speaker 2: people that there's more to life than boys and partying.
Speaker 5: No, there's not.
Speaker 6: No one's ever said that.
Speaker 2: I'll put that on the list.
Speaker 5: Is that it?
Speaker 6: Yeah, if you want, Yeah, we're good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm happy to sit here a bit longer if
Speaker 5: you wanted. That's up to talking about anything else.
Speaker 6: Now we're done. I'm good. Thank you for being here.
Speaker 6: It was a pleasure.
Speaker 5: Are you bored now?
Speaker 6: No, we can stay here all day, like he'll.
Speaker 5: Thank you very much for coming to visit me. It
Speaker 5: was very nice for you to do that.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having us.
Speaker 6: There was a pleasure. You're a legend. It was great
Speaker 6: to be in your presence and in the studio.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's good studio.
Speaker 6: It's a big studio studio.
Speaker 2: Have you seen the kiss FM broom closet studio? Like
Speaker 2: this is the next level.
Speaker 6: If it has Kyle been in here, because if he
Speaker 6: were to see this, renovations would start at Kiss tomorrow.
Speaker 6: Kyle Studio is a quarter the size of this.
Speaker 5: Well, so it should be yeah, cord to the talent.
Speaker 6: Yeah, is that it?
Speaker 5: You finish? Now? You're bored?
Speaker 10: Now?
Speaker 2: No, I'm not bordin And you've got a long lunch
Speaker 2: to get to, haven't you have?
Speaker 5: I with a lot of people. What have you got
Speaker 5: on your own?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 6: It says art pop?
Speaker 2: You are you familiar with art pop? No, it's a
Speaker 2: Lady Gaga album.
Speaker 5: No, I like Lady Gaga, do you yeah? Do you
Speaker 5: know why I like Lady Gaga?
Speaker 2: Well, suspect that you'd be a fan of some of
Speaker 2: the classical stuff she puts out. She's got jazz albums
Speaker 2: as well as the pop stuff.
Speaker 5: But also I like her because one of my favorite
Speaker 5: people in the world likes Tony Bennett, and Tony Bennett
Speaker 5: likes Lady Gaga, and Tony Bennett is a gentleman beyond
Speaker 5: belief and sings like nobody else.
Speaker 2: And that new album they put out recently is up
Speaker 2: for like a gazillion Grammys, So oh yeah, when they
Speaker 2: team up, magic happens.
Speaker 5: Yeah, do you know something, We're starting to get boring.
Speaker 5: People listening aren't going to give a stuff about Tony
Speaker 5: Bennett and Lady Gaga. I'm going now, all.
Speaker 6: Right, then, it was a pleasure to have you on.
Speaker 6: Great to meet you.
Speaker 5: You didn't have me on, I had you.
Speaker 6: You're that again, Yeah, a pleasure to be here.
Speaker 5: Well, it's been a pleasure to have you here. And
Speaker 5: anytime you feel like dropping by again, you're quite welcome.
Speaker 5: The door will always be open. Oh, thank you, John,
Speaker 5: that's a pleasure. You're You're all right, he looks.
Speaker 6: Thanks.
Speaker 2: That's a glowing review of ever heard?
Speaker 6: Thank you John? Thanks John?
Speaker 4: Is it just me?
Speaker 2: A podcast by a couple of mechas.
Speaker 8: Make sure you've hit follow on your podcast app.
Speaker 6: Let me be a little candid, Let me be a
Speaker 6: little blinded to.
Speaker 2: The founts of those about me.
Speaker 5: Let me praise a fut more.