1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda in the Mornings. 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 2: Well that song is a bit of a giveaway, isn't it. 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: Our next guest is one of the most loved Australian 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: comedic icons of our time. She was known as the 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: most She was called the most talked about person. Officially 6 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen, for all the right reasons, she's become 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: an Order of an Officer of the Order of Australia. 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 2: She is also we're doing about mag Dishabanski. Let's put 9 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: it out. 10 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 3: I thought we're on the sale of the season. 11 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: I know he's twenty fifteen. 12 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: She released her award winning memoir Reckoning and it is 13 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: award winning. 14 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: Book of the Year, Biography of the Year. 15 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: The Australian Book Industry Awards. Well, she's written a children's 16 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:42,279 Speaker 1: book that's released today. Mag did good morning, good morning. 17 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 3: Are you the most talked about person? You know? That 18 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 3: could be a good or bad thing. 19 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: I think it was a great thing. I think this 20 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 2: was the year of the gay marriage vault, wasn't it. 21 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it was. Yeah, So it was it was, 22 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 4: as you say, for all the right reasons. 23 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: Did you feel that your ears were burning at the time? 24 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 3: All these people are talking about it. 25 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: I don't know why it is to be on fire. 26 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 3: You would have had a bushfire in your hair. 27 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 4: I think it's a bushfire in my head. Actually it 28 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 4: was like, yeah, it was a pretty full on time. 29 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 4: But luckily we came through with, as far as I'm concerned, 30 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 4: a very much right result. 31 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, and how are you going? 32 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: I've seen on your socials you've been very honest about 33 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: how you're feeling, as we all are through all of this, 34 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: and there are some days where you're not feeling so good, 35 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: and you've shared that as well. 36 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 4: Well. Look, I mean I've done some stuff, but you know, 37 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 4: silly dancing and having fun and stuff like that, and 38 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 4: dancing with all the Sharon dancing with all the medical 39 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 4: and ambos and people. And I just had one of 40 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 4: those lobbly days, which absolutely everyone I know has talked about. 41 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 4: You know, there's no one who is just well. I 42 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 4: don't know, maybe they do exist, but no one I 43 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 4: know is sort of going through this not feeling well. 44 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 4: You have to be a bit strange to not feel 45 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 4: a bit well by it and uncertain because it's a 46 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 4: very weird. We're just as everyone says, it's unprecedented, So 47 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 4: I thought, I don't want to create that sort of 48 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 4: sense of like, oh, I'm fine all the time and 49 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 4: it's all just dancing and songs, and it's like, you know, 50 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 4: let's keep it real and also hopefully that will make 51 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 4: other people feel less alone and like more normal about 52 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 4: those sort of feelings. 53 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: Sure, and you also said if you don't feel great, 54 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: get some help, talk to somebody, seek medical help, whatever 55 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: you need. 56 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, that's right. It's also an opportunity to sort 57 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 4: of get that message across. And there's no shame in it, 58 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 4: you know, there's I mean, I'm I'm quite open about 59 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 4: the fact that I suffered with, you know, quite debilitating 60 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 4: anxiety at times of known about the depression. You know, 61 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 4: I'm fortunate that I'm one of the SIPs that does 62 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 4: always bounce back. But you know, I think really like 63 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 4: is complicated and and most of us, for various reasons, 64 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 4: you know, be it Jeanettie or just the circumstances visiting 65 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 4: and can face real mental health challenges. I mean, that 66 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 4: was that was why Will Connelly and I raised We've 67 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 4: got about one hundred and ninety thousand dollars now to 68 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 4: help people from the bush fires. It was always a 69 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 4: long term mental health program that we were interested in. 70 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 4: Of course that's been enormously complicated now by coronavirus. But 71 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 4: you know, mental health is something like you know very 72 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 4: much with a very strong personal issue for me. But 73 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 4: I think our mental well being is enormously is as 74 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 4: important as the economy or anything else. 75 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 3: Of course, Timmy, the tikt Off Pony and the Pooh 76 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 3: of Excitement. 77 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: I love the title. 78 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 4: Well, it's I said, you know, I've been saying, joking 79 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 4: that it's semi ordo biographical, and then I saw in 80 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 4: some newspapers they said, the semi auto biographical book. It's 81 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 4: you know, it's like they say, right with you. And 82 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 4: so Timmy is a show pony and it comes from 83 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 4: my bost friend Kristen is hilarious. She's actually the one 84 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 4: that came up with the phrase foxy moron for the 85 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 4: girl Cat and Kim and she she said to me, 86 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 4: she said, oh, you know, she said, you know, you 87 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 4: good natural a long but when you're in a certain mood, 88 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 4: she's around and cute and you like a little ft 89 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 4: off Shetland pony. 90 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 5: You know what, it's just a little I got trampled 91 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 5: by one when I was a kid and everyone was 92 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 5: last last because it's a small but those hooves they heard, 93 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 5: I know, and so. 94 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 4: It became a nickname for me amongst certain friends, Timmy 95 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 4: the ft Off Shetland pony. I have to say, really, 96 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 4: those moves are rare, but it's like on Timmy, Timmy 97 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 4: ty So anyway, I've just sort of amplified all of that. 98 00:04:55,640 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 4: And Timmy is a he's an instant famous ship show 99 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 4: pony with some anger issues and anger management, and he's very, 100 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 4: very self absorbed, and he also stuffers from irritable bowel 101 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 4: literally because it's when it gets irritable. And he's just 102 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 4: about to reach peak fame. He's on the red carpet 103 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 4: and his little hook is just about to step into 104 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 4: the spotlight when suddenly he does a proove excitement and 105 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 4: you know who hasn't done one of those. 106 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: Well, I'm looking at the drawing in the book and 107 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: it's quite a poo of excitement everywhere. 108 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 5: You're sure this is an autobiographic biographical bag that that. 109 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: Bit is not autobiographical, But no, it wasn't a logos moment. 110 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 4: Yes, that's right, that's right. You know you know what, 111 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 4: it's like, the glamor the all of that, I just overcome. 112 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 4: But it's look, it's being really fun to write. It's 113 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 4: just silly. And years ago I worked in a women's 114 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 4: refuge and and of course there are kids, you know who, 115 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 4: women and kids who are coming in who were really traumatized. 116 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 4: And I was young, you know, and I would do 117 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 4: my best. But I ended up discovering that one of 118 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 4: the things that not surprising me, that one of the 119 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 4: ways I could be most helpful was I was telling 120 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 4: stories to the kids to distract them. And I've very 121 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 4: quickly realized that at the moment you mentioned who hearts 122 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 4: a wee, you've got them, you know. I love it, 123 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 4: and and it's almost a crime to sort of not 124 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 4: to put that in kid books. So I thought, well, look, 125 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 4: let's not. Let's just put it front and center. So so, 126 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 4: but it's you know, it becomes quite a feature. It's 127 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 4: his timper power in there, and it's kind of a oh, 128 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 4: you know, you know, our greatest weaknesses are also our 129 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 4: greatest strength and vice versa. True, but yeah, it's true, 130 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 4: of course it's but it's all so a little bit 131 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 4: about the perils of inter fame. You know that if 132 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 4: you and there's a lot of like young kids now 133 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 4: who are wanting to become influencers and yeah you know. 134 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 4: I mean it's very different from from doing something that 135 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 4: then makes you famous, right as opposed to wanting to 136 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 4: be famous for famous oone sake. 137 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: So everyone wants to be famous until you. 138 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: Do a giant there's also Grandma's fart super recipes. 139 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 3: This is we need to buy anything else. 140 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 4: And that's you can take take that. Kids are loving that. Yeah, 141 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 4: I've talked about that because that it's an old I 142 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 4: think it's a Scottish saying. My mum used to have 143 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 4: some beauties but it's like I have. Well I say 144 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 4: it in the Scotts where that all you could pick 145 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 4: burns out of that one. 146 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 5: Well this this is great that you book Timmy, The 147 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 5: Pony and the Pooor of Excitement is in all good 148 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 5: bookstores today. 149 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 3: No wonder you're the most talked about person. Your your 150 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 3: head must be on fire right now, it must be 151 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 3: a blaze. 152 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, my ears, my hair evans. 153 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 3: Well, well it's always good to talk to you. You 154 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 3: look after yourself. 155 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 4: Love been talking to you too. Thanks joined the and 156 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 4: Amanda in the morning on