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Speaker 1: I'm not sure whether you've seen this vision.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's gone viral over the course of the weekend

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Speaker 2: or about twenty thousand people. I reckon I've watched this

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Speaker 2: vision of Tommy from the Sam Palms.

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Speaker 1: Now, plenty of you all know Tommy.

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Speaker 2: He was a very dear friend of the late great

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Speaker 2: Pete Davies who used to do this show, and any

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Speaker 2: friends of Pete's is obviously a friend of mine.

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Speaker 1: But Tommy's a wonderful bloke.

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Speaker 2: He and Julie run the Sam Palms and it is

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Speaker 2: a much loved territory business.

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Speaker 1: And after well you know what he.

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Speaker 2: Thinks is probably about twenty years, they're being forced to

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Speaker 2: take down their signs that sit along the highway, basically

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Speaker 2: telling people you know that the Sam Palms is two

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Speaker 2: kilometers away. It seems like it's bureaucracy gone mad. But

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Speaker 2: joining me on the line right now is Tommy out

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Speaker 2: there at the Sam Palms.

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Speaker 1: Get a Tommy.

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Speaker 3: There you going, Katie.

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Speaker 2: I'm not too I'm not too bad, mate. I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you what I saw that vision over the weekend. I

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Speaker 2: must have had it sent to me as well by

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Speaker 2: about ten people. Everybody is utterly fired up that you've

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Speaker 2: had to take your signs down.

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Speaker 3: Well, I didn't have to take them down, Katie, but

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Speaker 3: if I didn't, i'd lose them because the relevant department

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Speaker 3: was going to take them down and just scrap them.

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Speaker 3: And I just thought, well, I paid for them. I'll

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Speaker 3: keep them so I can hang them on the fence

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Speaker 3: here at the pub and change them from five kilometers

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Speaker 3: to fifty meters or something like that. You can, you know,

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Speaker 3: I'll come up with something productive with it.

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Speaker 1: From five o' clots to fifty meters.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm laughing because it just seems unbelievable. Why on

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Speaker 2: earth do these signs if you didn't take them down,

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Speaker 2: why on earth does the department need to take them down?

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Speaker 3: Well, apparently they're there, and I saw and a distruction

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Speaker 3: for the motorists. And when they come and sat in

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Speaker 3: the restaurant with Julia and Iron explained it to us.

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Speaker 3: I said, well, what about the eleven million dollars worth

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Speaker 3: of massive signs that you've got parked around town with

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Speaker 3: zero consultation to the taxpayer. What about those? And I

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Speaker 3: think those are fairly distracting compared to these little signs

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Speaker 2: You sport on and what did they have to say

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Speaker 3: They're not authorized to say anything. They've just got their jobs,

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Speaker 3: come and tell us to get our signs out or

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Speaker 3: they're taking them. So I can understand that, you know,

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Speaker 3: you need one man per job. But Tommy, yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: a bit annoying because it's not a distraction, Katie. We've

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Speaker 3: had people even when Julie and I bought land out

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Speaker 3: here six years before we bought the pub, it was

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Speaker 3: like the kids used to love the countdown nearly there,

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Speaker 3: that's just how everybody does it, and the amount of

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Speaker 3: I didn't think i'd get that kind of hits on Facebook,

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Speaker 1: It's gone viral.

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Speaker 2: Mates, you've gone everybody's seen you over the course of

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Speaker 2: the weekend. But I think it's hit a nerve because,

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Speaker 2: you know, like it actually said in that video, you know,

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Speaker 2: never mind the crime, never mind the other stuff that's

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Speaker 2: going on. You know, the real issue in the Northern

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Speaker 3: Just breaks of smoke and mirrors. Katie's we need to

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Speaker 3: distract from the issues here, and I think it's the

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Speaker 2: It's just unbelievable. Those signs have been up for years

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Speaker 2: and years. You know, everybody that goes out to that

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Speaker 1: If you're a towny like me, you actually need those signs.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's what I think. And they want uniformity across

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Speaker 3: the whole tourism industry. So all the signage is the same,

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Speaker 3: but four blue squares and a tent in one and

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Speaker 3: We supply a lot more things than just what you

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Speaker 3: it's irrelevant for me. It's just irrelevant. Why they want

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Speaker 3: I think it was triggered in this buy all of

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Speaker 3: the roadside signs that cool the linger, but I don't

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Speaker 3: think you're comparing apples to apples in this case. It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: It is absolutely crazy.

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Speaker 2: Now for those that aren't aware where exactly were the signs.

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Speaker 3: Well, the first one, the five kilometers sign, was at

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Speaker 3: about one hundred meters prior to the Crabclaw Island turnoff.

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Speaker 3: They've got to get rid of theirs, as well as

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Speaker 3: the Dundee, and as the two j's, and as does

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Speaker 3: everybody for Cops Peninsular raid out. But anyway, their first one,

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Speaker 3: the five K sign is there just before the Crabclaw

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Speaker 3: and the three and so on and so on, and

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Speaker 3: each different sign just put on a couple of the

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Speaker 3: services we provided so we could sort of spread it out.

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Speaker 3: It's a bit like the World's Fastest Indian where they

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Speaker 3: were counting down the Burmer shade. You see that.

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Speaker 1: No, it didn't.

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Speaker 3: Need to watch Betters the Great Meat.

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Speaker 2: Tommy tell me, like, in all seriousness, how much of

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Speaker 2: a blow is this for the business?

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Speaker 3: Well, I won't know until we get into the full

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Speaker 3: leg of the dry season, Katie, because we do get

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Speaker 3: a fairly good following in the drive. But to be honest,

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Speaker 3: it's been This is the slowest I've seen kickstart in

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Speaker 3: the years we've been here, and I figure a lot

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Speaker 3: of it's to do with the crime. I've been speaking

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Speaker 3: to me bookkeeper. She's down south, and the topic they're

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Speaker 3: worried about is people going to the territory are going

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Speaker 3: to get bashed, robbed, or the car's broken into, etc.

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Speaker 3: And this is not a good advertising policy for tourism.

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Speaker 1: No, it's truly not.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like honestly, Like I said before, I think

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Speaker 2: the reason why the video that you posted hit a

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Speaker 2: we're all fed up with the garbage that we're dealing

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Speaker 2: might seem like to a department it doesn't have a

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Speaker 2: big deal or it's not you know, it's not a

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Speaker 2: big change. But I just think, why are we in

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Speaker 2: a situation then where we're focusing on bloody signs and

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Speaker 3: Got smoking mirrors, Katie. That's all I can say. But

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Speaker 3: it's actually been going on for a while. But I

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Speaker 3: couldn't agree more. I think there are far more important

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Speaker 3: we never address that, there's always going to be something

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Speaker 3: more important than roadside. I don't know the answer. I

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Speaker 3: don't know why I'm frustrated by it. Because it's unnecessary. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and like I say, I don't know how much business

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Speaker 3: at least when we had a countdown that people knew

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Speaker 3: where we were. Yeah, say they won't. The replacement signed

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Speaker 3: the guys put in is behind another one that says

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Speaker 3: by now Haven Road Batroun And you can't even read.

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Speaker 3: All you can see is stands. So maybe that's relevant

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Speaker 3: in itself. They've got their head in the sand. I'm

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Speaker 2: Maybe we need one of those eleven million dollar signs.

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Speaker 1: Out there New York place.

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Speaker 3: That'd be cool.

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Speaker 2: I tell you what this is where it's just fascical,

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Speaker 2: isn't it. You know you look at those signs.

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Speaker 3: The problem is the crime, and that's that's for sure. Look,

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Speaker 3: I was having a little read this morning, kat, I

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Speaker 3: just want to share this with you and your listeners.

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Speaker 3: Publius Cyrus was a Latin writer born eighty five years

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Speaker 3: before Christ, and he had a few little moral sayings.

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Speaker 3: I'll just give you a couple of them. He who

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Speaker 3: spares the good, he who spares the bad injures the good.

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Speaker 3: He who helps the guilty shares the crime. The judge

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Speaker 3: is condemned when the guilty is absolved, pardon one offense,

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Speaker 3: and you encourage the commission of many. Now I'm not

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Speaker 3: sure if he was related to Charles Darwin, but it

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Speaker 3: certainly sounds like.

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Speaker 1: Mate.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, those like those words you just go isn't like

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Speaker 2: isn't that true for the two territory?

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Speaker 1: Right now?

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Speaker 2: You just think to yourself, we are we're pardoning these offenses,

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Speaker 2: and we're sort of, you know, turning a blind eye

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Speaker 2: to the really serious stuff that's going on, and all

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Speaker 2: the while everybody else is suffering.

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Speaker 3: Yep, you know, did you get an invite to any

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Speaker 3: publicity weddings, any celebrity weddings every weekend?

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Speaker 1: No? No, I don't get invited to much anymore. Tommy.

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Speaker 3: I saw you speak on Skylight, proud of you.

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Speaker 2: Oh thanks mate, thank you, And like I think we

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Speaker 2: just fed up, hey, And that's how I feel. I

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Speaker 2: know you guys have lived here for such a long time.

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Speaker 2: I've been here for twenty odd years. Like I just

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Speaker 2: we all want this place to thrive. We love the

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Speaker 2: Northern Territory, that's why.

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Speaker 1: We live here. And we're hurting right now. We need some.

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Speaker 3: Help, we do. Someone's got to make the hard decisions.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they truly do, Tommy.

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Speaker 2: I always appreciate your time and the more you know

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Speaker 2: when we chat, I just think, why don't we.

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Speaker 1: Do this more often? So we're going to have to

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Speaker 1: catch up with you more often.

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Speaker 3: Just give us a call when you don't want any

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Speaker 1: I will do. Good on you, Tommy mate, Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much.

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Speaker 2: Say gooday to Julie for me, and and we'll talk

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Speaker 2: to you again soon.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Thanksaie, thank you.

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