WEBVTT - G’s hotline  ☎️ Just two silly gals talking about the afterlife

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<v Speaker 1>The Rising Conquer Podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of the

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<v Speaker 1>land which this episode is being recorded, the Yugen Bear region.

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<v Speaker 1>the Rise and Conquer Podcasts. This is the podcast for

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<v Speaker 1>ordinary people who want to do extraordinary things. Hello and

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to the Rising Conker Podcast. It is your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Georgie Stephenson, and we are back with a g's hot.

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<v Speaker 1>These are our fun Friday epps where you send in

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<v Speaker 1>your life dilemmas and Me and a Tea provide you

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<v Speaker 1>with our unqualified two cents on the situation. Guys, A

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<v Speaker 1>Tea is back from a month holiday. Hi everybody, she's

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<v Speaker 1>lost her voice. I have lost my voice, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sick. A Tia Howe was Dubai in Africa?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, absolutely amazing. Dubai is honestly one of my most

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<v Speaker 2>favorite places I think I've been to. Everything is just

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<v Speaker 2>next level.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen a lot of people travel to Dubai and

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<v Speaker 1>it looks epic, but I've just never like never known,

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<v Speaker 1>so after you telling me about Dubai, I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's on the list.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Yes, guys, definitely highly recommend. It's just and I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like it's a very convenient place to travel to

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<v Speaker 2>on the way to somewhere else. And it's like one

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<v Speaker 2>of those places that I'm pretty confident in saying that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think every time I go overseas, now just stay

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<v Speaker 2>there for it two or three days.

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<v Speaker 1>Just stop over and Duby. Yeah, because I'm a traveler. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because I have the time. Love And also how was Africa?

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<v Speaker 1>How I was going back home? It was beautiful, I

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<v Speaker 1>because you're from Zimbabwe, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was born there yet, and I just I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 2>my family since twenty sixteen, so lots of tears, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was so nice to be with everyone and around everyone,

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't realize how much I needed that.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, Like, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel a lot more rejuvenated and relaxed about everything. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was very wound up I think before I left,

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<v Speaker 2>and now I'm just very calm and ready to get

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<v Speaker 2>back into things.

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<v Speaker 1>Very refreshed. You feel very grounded, Yes, very grounded. It was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was nice to put things into perspective again. I think, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll tell us a little bit more about that. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you mean by that? Yeah, So.

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<v Speaker 2>We obviously moved here in two thousand and seven because

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<v Speaker 2>things in Zimbabwe started going quite down hill, and it

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<v Speaker 2>every time I've gone back since we moved, if you

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<v Speaker 2>asked me if I'd lived there, I would have said

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<v Speaker 2>yes because of the amount of family I have there,

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<v Speaker 2>it outweighed how bad the situation was. This time I

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<v Speaker 2>would probably say no, just because, like it's the point

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<v Speaker 2>where there are no road lines, there are no road rules.

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<v Speaker 1>That really got you to Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I need rules, I need rules, but

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<v Speaker 2>like it's just not safe. It took me a week

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<v Speaker 2>to get comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>To drive there. And you said that they like cut

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<v Speaker 1>the water and power.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so the wedding, the week of the wedding, they

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<v Speaker 2>cut the water for the whole week, so we had

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<v Speaker 2>to buy water and have it delivered to the house

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<v Speaker 2>every day, which was insane. And that's just what the

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<v Speaker 2>government does there and it's not something we'd ever think

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<v Speaker 2>about here. Like when we turn the lights, which the

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<v Speaker 2>lights come on when we turn our tap, the water

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<v Speaker 2>comes out, and it's not because people aren't paying their bills.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just because they've decided, oh, we didn't have enough,

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<v Speaker 2>so you're just not gonna get any for the next

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<v Speaker 2>five days. And it's very sad to see that. But

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<v Speaker 2>it also for me, everyone there is so resilient and

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<v Speaker 2>so positive about stuff no matter what, and I it

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<v Speaker 2>just put everything into perspective for me because now things

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<v Speaker 2>happen and I'm like, you know what, I've got it good?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Oh I love that's that's really good. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>like so beautiful that you got to see your family

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<v Speaker 1>and really have that family time too. Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>the best is that times? The best I know is

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<v Speaker 1>that your recommendation of the weak. Yes, family time and

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<v Speaker 1>a holiday and dubai. I'm in a holiday and Dubai.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think even just taking time to do nothing

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<v Speaker 2>because I was at home for three weeks, but I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't say I did too many touristy things like I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't go to any parks or anything like that. But

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<v Speaker 2>just taking the time to be with yourself and your

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<v Speaker 2>loved ones and reflect and enjoy things and just take

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<v Speaker 2>it slow. It's just so important.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that I feel the sack same way. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if maybe everyone's feeling like this, but when

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<v Speaker 1>we went to Fiji, I did not want to do

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<v Speaker 1>boat trips or go do you know Cloud nine and

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<v Speaker 1>Fiji or anything like that. Like I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to chill. I just want to be myself

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<v Speaker 1>and enjoyed Tim and Ivy and that's even like it

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<v Speaker 1>was my birthday on Wednesday, and happy birthday, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>and thank you rn C fam. I have so many

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful messages from you guys, and I do appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm twenty eight big, twenty two zero. What she's

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<v Speaker 1>twenty no big and two eight fuck, you know, And

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to do I was saying to a tear.

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<v Speaker 1>Like last year, my birthday was so bougie. I was

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<v Speaker 1>at Hamilton Island, you know. For my birthday present, Tim

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<v Speaker 1>bought me a new diamond ring. Like I got so

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<v Speaker 1>many presents. It was just like I was pregnant. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just a huge birthday and so much happening, like

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<v Speaker 1>really for and then this birthday, super chill didn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>Me and Tim just took Ivy to buy and Bay

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<v Speaker 1>and we did the Lighthouse Walk and went to the

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<v Speaker 1>farm and just like had lunch and spent time together

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<v Speaker 1>and it was so chill. But it's like it felt

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<v Speaker 1>like this, like it just felt like, oh thank God.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I've like told my friends I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to do anything like it's just I just need some

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<v Speaker 1>space and I need to chill. So I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe everyone's feeling like this. Citia. Actually, let's put this

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<v Speaker 1>on a poll tomorrow and let's see how everyone is

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<v Speaker 1>feeling in regards to are you just like us, where

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<v Speaker 1>you're like I just want to chill, I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to go inwards? Or are you Georgie last year? I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to know how you guys are feeling. My recommendation

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<v Speaker 1>for the week. I can't remember if I've recommended this.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I have, but I'm still gonna recommend it again.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still watching the TV show The Split, which is

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<v Speaker 1>all about family life and just drama. I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I love drama. That's what you studied, isn't it family law? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>So I studied law and I worked in family law,

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<v Speaker 1>so I feel like I can like relate somehow. I

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<v Speaker 1>loved suits because of the law side of it. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>TV show The Split loving it. Guys. This episode is chaotic.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually, I think the most chaotic episode we've ever recorded.

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<v Speaker 1>So we started off with like usual hotline questions, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we went me and a Tear went rogue because

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<v Speaker 1>I was just craving deep conversation, and we went rogue

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<v Speaker 1>about I actually can't even remember what we spoke about

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<v Speaker 1>now a tiar, but we spoke about the afterlife. We

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<v Speaker 1>spoke about what we think happens when we die.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, incarnation came up as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we also spoke a lot about A Tears

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<v Speaker 1>religion and kind of what you believe and then kind

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<v Speaker 1>of off that your self beliefs too. Yes, I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of can't remember what I said. And I was like

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about this the other day and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh god, I hope I said was okay, you know

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<v Speaker 1>how like, yeah, I'm worried.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, was it too controversial? I know?

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<v Speaker 1>But I just like I have thoughts. But I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like also as people were allowed to have beliefs and

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<v Speaker 1>we're allowed to change them.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, So it's like whatever I say, whatever. But honestly, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>this is juicy again.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to put a poll on stories and just

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<v Speaker 1>see what you guys think about these questions because they're

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<v Speaker 1>a bit controversial. What I think is like completely different

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<v Speaker 1>to a tea and vice versa. But it was like

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<v Speaker 1>such a beautiful chat. I loved it. Yeah, so nice,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that like the big takeaway was just

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<v Speaker 1>everyone is allowed to have their own opinions and to

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<v Speaker 1>be open minded and to have these conversations because it's Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was really incredible. I went away being like, I

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<v Speaker 1>loved that chat me too. All right, guys, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>straight into the body.

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<v Speaker 2>If you had the opportunity to be told exactly how

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<v Speaker 2>your life would pan out, would you want to know?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, one hundred and percent have you met me, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest control of Oh, I don't know. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I would because I'm a sicko and I just love

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<v Speaker 1>to know. Yeah, I feel like you would too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like, I feel like I absolutely would, but I'd

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<v Speaker 2>try so hard to resist it, and I just would

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<v Speaker 2>not be able to resist the temptation of being told.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my bit. So here's my dilemma to you. What

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<v Speaker 1>if you then got told what your life would look

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<v Speaker 1>like and it's like it's bleak, it's not good.

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<v Speaker 2>See what would you do then, spy. Probably Yeah, you would,

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<v Speaker 2>like you'd end up in a pretty big hole and

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<v Speaker 2>you'd have to pull yourself out and sort of just

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<v Speaker 2>remember that, like that's not necessarily what would happen?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think I just go I don't know. See,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also a big believer. I believe in psychics, and

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<v Speaker 1>I also believe in like parallel not universes. But like

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that any choice you make there's then like

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<v Speaker 1>multiple outcomes that can happen. And you're constantly, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>peaking a life. So I believe that you making them

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<v Speaker 1>different choices you would have a different outcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, I one hundred percent agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go rogue here. What do you believe in

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<v Speaker 1>regards to like the afterlife? What's your beliefs?

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<v Speaker 2>I think heaven and hell exist really yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a religious belief?

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit?

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<v Speaker 1>But I also what is the afterlife belief with your religions?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Pretty much heaven and heaven and Hell? Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's just like this concept that.

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<v Speaker 1>So a tears Muslim. Yes, yes, just so you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna be like what religion, there's like a day

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<v Speaker 2>of judgment kind of thing, and then you get judged.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever heard the phrase the pathway to hell

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<v Speaker 2>is paved with good intentions?

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<v Speaker 1>No, but that's mind boggling to me. What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 2>So that's like some people say that in the sense

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<v Speaker 2>that you can try to be doing a good thing

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<v Speaker 2>for someone and then something will go wrong and they'll

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<v Speaker 2>end up being hurt kind of thing. So that's what

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<v Speaker 2>some people say. I know, but like some people believe

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<v Speaker 2>that that, Like it's like a saying, saying whereas in

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<v Speaker 2>my religion you are judged purely on your intentions.

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<v Speaker 1>Else I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>So it doesn't matter what the outcome. It doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 2>what the outcome of your decision is. It's the feeling

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<v Speaker 2>you had in your heart when you decided. Say example,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're just genuinely a good person, yeah, pretty much.

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<v Speaker 1>So even if you accidentally killed someone in a car crash,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's not like you're going to help. Yeah, or like,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, some people who will try to hurt someone

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<v Speaker 2>will harm someone or affect someone negatively and it actually

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<v Speaker 2>works out great for that person and they're like great,

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<v Speaker 2>but they still did a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting yeah, but then like it's just like so hard

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<v Speaker 2>because I used to be Jehovah's witness, so we very

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<v Speaker 2>much were the same where it was like heaven and hell,

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<v Speaker 2>but like heaven was like called the Garden of Eve,

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<v Speaker 2>where once you get a different name, Yeah, you would

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<v Speaker 2>go to like the garden, which is this great place

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<v Speaker 2>where everyone's happy and you know whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I just had this weird. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I the whole like going to hell vibe just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of yes, I don't vibe with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, and this is do not take this

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<v Speaker 2>as this is my opinion. This is not my religion.

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<v Speaker 2>This is our own appearance too, silly gallops talking on

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<v Speaker 2>a podcast. I feel that God would forgive you for

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<v Speaker 2>what whatever needed.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I feel like I don't think anyone's ever going

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<v Speaker 2>to be put in Hell.

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<v Speaker 1>So you don't think it exists, No, you think I think.

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<v Speaker 2>It exists because I think, like I very much believe

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<v Speaker 2>in evil spirits kind of thing. I know, even evil spirits,

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<v Speaker 2>and I do think that that's probably where they are.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't think people's souls get badished there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think, because that's the concept I can't deal

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<v Speaker 1>with because I think also there's a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>who do bad things, but if you really look at

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<v Speaker 1>their lives, it's usually because people did bad things to them, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they didn't know any better. And so it then

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hurts my heart thinking that, you know, people

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<v Speaker 1>would then go to hell where it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they grew up an abusive household, you know, just stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. It just like almost doesn't sit right with

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<v Speaker 1>me because I like to believe, like you believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, because if you look at the actual

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<v Speaker 1>soul of someone in its like purest form, because I

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<v Speaker 1>I believe in like universe Source, God is like all

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing, and it's just this higher thing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not a man, it's not God. It's like just a

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<v Speaker 1>higher thing and it's not a person.

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<v Speaker 2>We're taught that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, yeah, I kind of like that. And but

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<v Speaker 1>also I believe our souls are all a piece of it,

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<v Speaker 1>so like we are all source, we are all and

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I'm so big into like intuition. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know the saying I say, a tear of like

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<v Speaker 1>you can't fuck it up if you're following your intuition.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't fuck it up because I'm I'm at that faith,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a piece of source. It's like I am you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that thing. So it's like I can't fuck it up

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<v Speaker 1>because I am you know, I don't want to say

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<v Speaker 1>the words I am God because people take that out

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<v Speaker 1>of context. But do you know what I mean? Like

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<v Speaker 1>I am that purest form of universe source.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I can't fuck it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now I know what you mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So then I don't know, And I think I

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<v Speaker 1>struggle a little bit with the whole you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>my religion and Jehovah's witness religion, it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>Jhovah and Jesus and it's like very much these people

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<v Speaker 1>are put on a pedestal, and I just like, am

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<v Speaker 1>I I don't know? You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? No, I know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to believe in a higher power. I like

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<v Speaker 1>to believe in something beyond me, but not in the

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<v Speaker 1>way of I would do anything.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't know, I know what you mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to articulate it. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>also growing up because my religion was like really pushed

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<v Speaker 1>on to me and it just didn't feel right, it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't sit well. I then went through a stage of

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<v Speaker 1>retaliation where I was like, what's the word when you're

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<v Speaker 1>not religious?

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<v Speaker 2>Atheist?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm atheist. I used to say that because I was

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<v Speaker 1>like to.

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<v Speaker 2>Your parents, yeah, because I was just like I just.

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<v Speaker 1>Felt so like they pushed things on me, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't I don't want to do this,

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<v Speaker 1>I think. And then I kind of have, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>went through my self development journey and like my spirituality

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<v Speaker 1>really grew and I'm now at this thing where I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely believe in this higher purpose, this higher thing,

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<v Speaker 1>something beyond me. But like I said, I like to

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<v Speaker 1>think that we work together, we co create. I am

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of that, and it's so yeah, it's just like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it feels different. It feels good to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that's what matters. And I think, especially with religion,

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<v Speaker 2>it really comes down to how your parents teach it

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<v Speaker 2>to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and how it's because I don't know religion. To

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<v Speaker 1>me growing up, it just felt like a bunch of rules. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and no sex before marriage, no smoking, no, like it

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<v Speaker 1>just felt so restrictive, so restrictive, and I felt and

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<v Speaker 1>it also was a little bit hard for me because

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<v Speaker 1>my mum was really religious in you know, being a

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<v Speaker 1>Jevia's witness, and then like my dad tried to support

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<v Speaker 1>it for her, but he also felt weird because he smoked,

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<v Speaker 1>he you know, drank, he he just didn't feel like

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<v Speaker 1>he belonged, so he never used to come with us.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know, it just kind of felt like

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<v Speaker 1>this like weird dynamic as well.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so fair.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I got lucky with how my parents taught me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the way you describe it, it's really quite beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that is just very much. And I know

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<v Speaker 2>it's just from the way I've been taught in because

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<v Speaker 2>I know people equally who have been taught slightly different

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<v Speaker 2>ways by their parents and they have also retaliated and

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<v Speaker 2>they don't like it kind of thing. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>my mum always taught me, I will give you the

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<v Speaker 2>book and you can read all the stuff, but at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, it's your connection with God

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<v Speaker 2>or the higher power and everything, and it's your faith

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<v Speaker 2>and that that matters. It's not anything else. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>very much. They focused a lot on the spirituality and

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<v Speaker 2>the morals rather than like you have to dress this

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<v Speaker 2>way and you have to do this, and you have

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<v Speaker 2>to do that. And that's how I came to like

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<v Speaker 2>love it in a way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Actually on that point, something that I really did

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<v Speaker 1>love about growing up religious is the morals. Absolutely, the

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<v Speaker 1>morals like were so instilled with me until this day.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I feel like I have really great morals because

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<v Speaker 1>of a religion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like a moral and ethical compass.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like I do have a really strong one.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember kind of being in high school and

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<v Speaker 1>I went to a public high school, which was like

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lot's happening. You know. I'm sure it

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<v Speaker 1>happened from private school too, but like, yeah, there was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot happening, and I kind of remember thinking, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>thank god, I've got a bit of like a moral compass, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because you can kind of like I could just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of tell other people didn't have the same upbringing. And

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<v Speaker 1>don't get me wrong, I was still pretty wild. I

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<v Speaker 1>was a bit of a wild child while so it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, imagine. But that's something I did really

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<v Speaker 1>like because still to this day, I have those morals. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and still do you believe in like angels, absolutely, and

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<v Speaker 1>like what and what's it called? I've completely forgotten the

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<v Speaker 1>world like the people like your angels, your people who like.

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<v Speaker 2>Your guardian angels.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, do you believe that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely, But that's not religiously I've got so like

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of different interpretation, Like with how Christianity,

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<v Speaker 2>there's all these different like sects I think that's the word.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, Like we'll go with it. Concepts.

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<v Speaker 2>Concept I don't know. It's like groups of belief. Oh okay, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The same thing with like Islam, where there's like lots

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<v Speaker 2>of different like schools of thought, and then that even

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<v Speaker 2>gets more separated, like there's four different ways you can pray,

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<v Speaker 2>and then all those four different ways of following have

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<v Speaker 2>slightly different rules for things. And then in that then

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<v Speaker 2>there's people who are more on the spiritual side and

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<v Speaker 2>people who aren't, like they just don't believe in it

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<v Speaker 2>at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And another thing I've noticed is there's a huge

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<v Speaker 2>cultural overlay that people get confused with religion when like

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<v Speaker 2>there's like Middle Eastern Muslims and there's Indian Muslims and

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<v Speaker 2>like everybody's different. Yeah, because like I've had people ask

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<v Speaker 2>me like, why do you like that your religion sexist?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, no, it's not. It's actually Middle Eastern

0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:12.600
<v Speaker 2>culture that is a little bit sexist sometimes, like the

0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:15.040
<v Speaker 2>women used to never used to be able to drive

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff. They're okay, yeah, in like Dubai and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So because my cousin's Muslim, oh love. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>she she went to Africa and she married this beautiful

0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Muslim man and she became Muslim, and so yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been introduced to it. And that's like I loved having

0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:36.800
<v Speaker 1>conversations with her. It's so insightful because it's just you know,

0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Western media really kind of puts that picture in your head.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh absolutely, and like that's also another layer to it

0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:47.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of thing. But yeah, there's just so many different Yeah,

0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:49.720
<v Speaker 2>it's hard to explain that it's layered.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, probably probably a podcast. Yeah, really wrote the last

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<v Speaker 1>question though, I'm just very intrigued. Do you believe in reincarnation?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so, See I I just I do,

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe. For example, like a big question that

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<v Speaker 1>I get in the project about you know, when I believe,

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<v Speaker 1>like everything kind of happens for a reason. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>trust your intuition, trust your angels, like believe in you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this high thing, believe the universe always had your back.

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<v Speaker 1>You're guided. And then you know have people who are

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<v Speaker 1>like what about just like also that concept I talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you about, like, you know, when something bad is happening,

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<v Speaker 1>try and think of the lesson you're learning or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the reason here rather than it being a negative,

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<v Speaker 1>like turn it into a positive. And so I often

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<v Speaker 1>have kind of the reaction of bit, what about like

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<v Speaker 1>the really bad shit, like just the shit that it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no possible lesson here, There's no blah blah blah,

0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:53.320
<v Speaker 1>like you know, like children getting killed sort of bad stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And the way that I kind of explain it and

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<v Speaker 1>what I believe in is we are all souls and

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<v Speaker 1>so like right now is we are living out a

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<v Speaker 1>like before I got put into this body, I was

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<v Speaker 1>a soul and I completely knew what was going to

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<v Speaker 1>happen in this lifetime. All the lessons I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to learn, all the people I was going to meet,

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<v Speaker 1>all the lives I was going to change for good

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<v Speaker 1>for the bad, and that is all decided before I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like reincarnated, and it's all because your soul needs to

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<v Speaker 1>learn lessons, needs to like you know, go throughout life.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why people here, they'll go through a really

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<v Speaker 1>tough life and this is a lifetime where they learn

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hard lessons or they go through certain experiences

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<v Speaker 1>because everyone needs to learn those experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>And so then they'll die and then they'll go back

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<v Speaker 2>again to the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like because you know, almost like the saying of

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<v Speaker 1>oh gosh, if someone's got bad luck, like they must

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<v Speaker 1>have done something bad in a past life. Yeah, no,

0:23:02.320 --> 0:23:05.120
<v Speaker 1>we have like we have this friend, Oh my god,

0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:06.600
<v Speaker 1>he just has the worst luck.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm talking the like he's had I think like

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<v Speaker 2>three people try and kill themselves in front of his car.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking just like like bad luck.

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<v Speaker 1>Just he's like gone to prison, like just oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>certain stuff. And there's a joke about, you know, like

0:23:26.040 --> 0:23:29.639
<v Speaker 1>he must have really mustn't like Hitler in a past

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<v Speaker 1>live or something because he just has the worst luck. Anyway,

0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:38.800
<v Speaker 1>that's like beside the point. But that's just a group joke.

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<v Speaker 1>Poor guy. But yeah, I don't know, I kind of

0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:44.800
<v Speaker 1>believe in that. So it's like when someone's having a

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<v Speaker 1>really you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Unexplainably tough time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's kind of like, you know, that's what

0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:53.280
<v Speaker 1>their soul has chosen for whatever reason. And I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely believe in reincarnation and it almost makes me

0:23:56.840 --> 0:23:59.160
<v Speaker 1>feel better because it's not like you just die and

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<v Speaker 1>that's it. It's my soul will then go out to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, do its thing another time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:08.720
<v Speaker 1>And it's like I've had psychic readings and she has

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:12.360
<v Speaker 1>said to me, you're a young soul. You've only been

0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:16.360
<v Speaker 1>here a couple of times. And then where's my girlfriend.

0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:20.000
<v Speaker 1>She's like, oh, you're an old soul. And my girlfriend

0:24:20.040 --> 0:24:21.520
<v Speaker 1>like you can tell she's an old soul.

0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Wow. Yeah, I don't know. That's cool.

0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like I think reincarnation, isn't that Buddhism and Hindu

0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:32.520
<v Speaker 1>and Hindu, Yeah.

0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:34.760
<v Speaker 2>They believe in reincarnation, I think. Yeah, And that's why

0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:36.639
<v Speaker 2>they have so many I think that's why they have

0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:39.360
<v Speaker 2>so many different gods. I'm not one hundred percentual, Yeah.

0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:41.959
<v Speaker 1>They have a few. I don't know. It's like almost,

0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:44.840
<v Speaker 1>I that's not me being religious any point, that's just

0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:48.240
<v Speaker 1>me having certain views. But yeah, it almost I don't know.

0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:51.440
<v Speaker 1>With like religion and views. I think it's almost what

0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:55.040
<v Speaker 1>comforts you, yeah, and what feels good to you and

0:24:55.119 --> 0:24:58.520
<v Speaker 1>what makes you feel like connect you Yeah, connected and

0:24:58.680 --> 0:25:04.000
<v Speaker 1>have a purposeful life. Yeah, absolutely, which is actually the

0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:08.399
<v Speaker 1>funny tell us can you tell the podcast? No? I can't. Okay,

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I love home Rogue. We're gone. Yeah, Jay's gonna be

0:25:13.760 --> 0:25:15.359
<v Speaker 1>listening being like what fuck?

0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:19.720
<v Speaker 2>I used to be friends with someone. Yeah, and one

0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 2>day I think she was just a bit too drunk,

0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:24.320
<v Speaker 2>but she took it upon herself to like give me

0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:25.680
<v Speaker 2>her opinion on everything.

0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:28.679
<v Speaker 1>A lot of it offended me. Oh my god, I

0:25:28.680 --> 0:25:30.399
<v Speaker 1>was about to say this is me when I'm drunk,

0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:34.320
<v Speaker 1>but no, I don't know, like too much, too much,

0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:36.280
<v Speaker 1>like what one of them.

0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 2>It was just after the Megan and Harry interview came

0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:42.040
<v Speaker 2>out with Oprah and I love Megan Markle and I

0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:43.000
<v Speaker 2>think she's incredible.

0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:43.760
<v Speaker 1>I love her.

0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:45.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think she's amazing.

0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:46.360
<v Speaker 1>I love her.

0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:49.480
<v Speaker 2>And this girl who knew that took it upon herself

0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:52.800
<v Speaker 2>to criticize Megan Mikale and was like, there's no way

0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:55.680
<v Speaker 2>they were racist. How can you blame queen Elizabeth blah

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah blah. And this was still like recently

0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:01.000
<v Speaker 2>black Lives matter kind of thing. And I just looked

0:26:01.040 --> 0:26:03.280
<v Speaker 2>at her and I was like, oh, like, what makes

0:26:03.320 --> 0:26:05.200
<v Speaker 2>you say that? And she's like, you can't blame Queen

0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:08.639
<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth for what her ancestors did. And I'm like, no, honey,

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:11.560
<v Speaker 2>Queen Elizabeth did it.

0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 1>But also it's it's not about that.

0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:18.239
<v Speaker 2>It's about audience, but it's also about the structures are

0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:20.080
<v Speaker 2>still in place for that to happen.

0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:26.920
<v Speaker 1>There's still a fucking queen. Yes, you're missing the whole

0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:29.399
<v Speaker 1>point here. I didn't even hear the conversation. I know

0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:30.399
<v Speaker 1>she's missing the point.

0:26:31.200 --> 0:26:33.639
<v Speaker 2>And she and I was just like, man, I'm so

0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:38.520
<v Speaker 2>the wrong person to say this too, Agion. Oh no.

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:41.560
<v Speaker 2>She was like, I just don't get why people are religious.

0:26:42.080 --> 0:26:45.480
<v Speaker 2>I think that people who are religious are just empty

0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:48.199
<v Speaker 2>and they just need something to fill themselves up. And

0:26:48.240 --> 0:26:50.920
<v Speaker 2>they're just empty inside, so they need religion to fill

0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:51.320
<v Speaker 2>them up.

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:56.719
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, interesting, opinion, you looked the way.

0:26:56.920 --> 0:27:01.640
<v Speaker 1>You know what my actual pet hate is how closed

0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:05.240
<v Speaker 1>minded some people are. Absolutely that is so closed mind,

0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:09.240
<v Speaker 1>because this is like the beautiful thing is I can

0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:13.359
<v Speaker 1>have my beliefs, you can have your beliefs and they're

0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 1>both valid. Absolutely, don't you think that's the beautiful thing.

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:19.679
<v Speaker 2>And I think if you look hard enough at every

0:27:19.720 --> 0:27:23.600
<v Speaker 2>single religion that exists, it's pretty similar.

0:27:23.880 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 1>A hundred puck. And that's why I'm like, you.

0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:29.359
<v Speaker 2>Just don't Some people don't want to name for it.

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:31.560
<v Speaker 2>Some people want to name for it. Some people like

0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:33.399
<v Speaker 2>rules and books, some people don't.

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But I think also, like it's such a great

0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:40.600
<v Speaker 1>point of I think it's so small. For example, if

0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 1>I live my life a certain way, like a great

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 1>example is me being a working mum, Like, yeah, that

0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:50.440
<v Speaker 1>is so triggering, and that is something that you can

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:53.640
<v Speaker 1>tell when I have a conversation. I recently did this

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:56.359
<v Speaker 1>at a lunch and it was a business lunch with

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:59.439
<v Speaker 1>Cooper and you know, two others. And the man asked

0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:01.440
<v Speaker 1>me what my does and I was like, oh, he's

0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 1>a stay at home dad. He looks after our daughter Ivy.

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:04.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:07.400
<v Speaker 1>And he was like, oh, and you could just.

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:11.280
<v Speaker 2>Stay you could just tell he was shocked, and he

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:11.800
<v Speaker 2>was really good.

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:13.680
<v Speaker 1>He was like, oh, that's so cool, Like I love

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:16.320
<v Speaker 1>that for him. But you could just tell, like in

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:18.920
<v Speaker 1>his face he was there and he was like, what

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 1>the fuck. And he was like just asking me questions

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 1>that were just like you could tell he just had

0:28:25.880 --> 0:28:28.440
<v Speaker 1>never heard of it, and he was just like, oh,

0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:31.240
<v Speaker 1>so you you go to work and he stays at home,

0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:34.399
<v Speaker 1>and like I just wanted to know how it worked

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:40.240
<v Speaker 1>and exactly how your life work was. Yeah, like pretty

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:42.640
<v Speaker 1>much just a normal like I'm the one who works

0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 1>and he stays at home. It's like we're just different

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:49.880
<v Speaker 1>genders anyway, and I just I think it's so interesting.

0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 1>And but he was really good about it. He wasn't

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:54.600
<v Speaker 1>like good, you know, yeah, rude, he wasn't read or anything.

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 1>But often like I'll get snarky DMS from women who goes, oh,

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:03.040
<v Speaker 1>I could never leave my baby when they're only you know,

0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:08.240
<v Speaker 1>six months, or like a double ended sword of oh

0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 1>you know you're not maternal or blah blah blah. And

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:13.560
<v Speaker 1>they don't mean in a mean way, but you can

0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 1>see they see life a certain way and they can't

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 1>see anything else, so anything else would either be like

0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:23.960
<v Speaker 1>wrong or bad or.

0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 2>Just make them angry. Almost yeah, like that's not right.

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 2>And I just like, if you can go through life

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:40.239
<v Speaker 2>being open minded, having conversations and welcoming different opinions, you

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 2>were going to have such abundant life absolutely during your record.

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love it.

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:50.520
<v Speaker 2>And that's why I like talking about stuff like this

0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 2>because I feel like, especially religion such a taboo subject. Yeah,

0:29:55.840 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 2>for a very weird reason, Like especially my religion.

0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Why are you laughing? Because it's just like people like, oh,

0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 1>what religion are you? And I'm like, oh, I'm Muslim.

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:08.480
<v Speaker 2>They're like, oh no, actually I yeah.

0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm like they freak out.

0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 2>They not because they not maybe like I don't think

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 2>it's because they think I'm a terrorist or anything, but

0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 2>it makes people very uncomfortable because what mainstream media, what

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 2>mainstream media says, and like even if they don't think that,

0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 2>or they're like, but she's such a nice person.

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 1>God, Like, it's just this.

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 2>People get uncomfortable to ask me questions. And for me,

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, ask me as many questions as you want,

0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:34.520
<v Speaker 2>because I think that's what's what's beautiful, Like I want

0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 2>to share it.

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>I think it's because it's yeah, and it's because mainstream

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 1>media has made it's like so polarizing.

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 2>Very polarizing, and like I just don't think it should

0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 2>be like I would love to sit down with one

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 2>of every Yeah, well.

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I found myself I think it's also quite it's immature.

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I think in my early twenties I had views of

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 1>these like you know, set things and like I don't

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 1>believe in religion and blah blah blah, and then you

0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of like evolve and grow, and I think, like,

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:08.240
<v Speaker 1>for example, the other day, I saw a title of

0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:10.600
<v Speaker 1>a podcast that really triggered me.

0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 2>Really well, yeah, can you say it?

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, obviously I'm not gonna say who is bad

0:31:16.160 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 1>or anything like that, but it was basically a podcast

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 1>talking about men empowerment, almost which I'm a huge feminist

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 1>and like mean, Tea up Cooper calls us men haters

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:37.440
<v Speaker 1>and like, I'm not, I just guys. I'm you know,

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm for the gals. I'm for the gals. And also

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm just you know, I saw growing up my mom

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 1>and dad had very much the heterosexual normal relationship where

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:52.280
<v Speaker 1>my dad went to work, my mom stayed at home,

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 1>and I just saw certain things that they didn't like

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 1>feel It's not like they felt wrong or anything was bad,

0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:03.200
<v Speaker 1>but I just I wanted a different life for me,

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 1>and I just was very not opinionated, like just yeah,

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 1>just very adamant of what I wanted in life and

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 1>how I kind of wanted to make my life, you know, different,

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 1>And also I just saw certain stuff that I was like,

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:20.280
<v Speaker 1>but why is it different because I'm a female? Or

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 1>why is it different because he's a male? Like I

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 1>just like kind of didn't understand the whole concept. So

0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:29.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like very strong willed about this topic. And yeah,

0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 1>it really triggered me because I'm like, men don't need

0:32:34.040 --> 0:32:38.200
<v Speaker 1>empowerment because I've just been empowered for fucking know. I mean,

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:41.560
<v Speaker 1>like yes, and I hate when people are like, oh,

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:45.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's all about female empowerment. I'm like, it's

0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 1>literally been.

0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Like about time, it's about fan time, fucking Lizzo, and

0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 2>so like, I get so fired up about this anyway,

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:58.080
<v Speaker 2>I just like I clicked into it because I was

0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 2>I think it's super close mind I did if I

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 2>sit here and just scoff and go, oh you know yeah,

0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 2>And so I actually listened to it. Didn't agree with it,

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 2>still don't, but you listen, but I listened. But also

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:17.360
<v Speaker 2>it was super insightful. Yeah, and I think.

0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 1>There's definitely points in it that I was like, I

0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 1>can understand where they're coming from. And it's not like

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I agreed with it, and I still have my own opinions,

0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 1>but it was like that person is also allowed to

0:33:29.880 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 1>have their opinions.

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I'm just at the point where I'm like, if

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:37.760
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna let every single thing that you disagree with

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 2>that someone else says get to you, you're just gonna

0:33:41.040 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 2>be sitting at home in a room behind your friend upset.

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And I and honestly like, I'm quite careful what

0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:55.240
<v Speaker 1>I say on Instagram on this podcast because I don't

0:33:55.320 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 1>like confrontation, Like I purposely choose to be quite vinila. Yeah,

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:03.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, because I'm just like not interested in the

0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:08.359
<v Speaker 1>internet drama. But also one hundred percent it's like, if

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 1>you're going to like just let everything offend you and

0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:15.239
<v Speaker 1>everything being like, obviously there are boundaries.

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:18.239
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, obviously there is things that I listened to, I'm like,

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:21.880
<v Speaker 2>well that's fucked, and I think that's okay.

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:24.600
<v Speaker 1>But I think also the whole basis of what me

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 1>and the tier are talking about is you will.

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Have such a like more fruitful life if you can

0:34:32.040 --> 0:34:37.279
<v Speaker 2>listen and process and not have a closed minded opinion

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:40.720
<v Speaker 2>about things and just be like, hmm, that's an interesting

0:34:40.760 --> 0:34:41.480
<v Speaker 2>way to look at it.

0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:43.959
<v Speaker 1>That's an interesting way. You don't have to agree. Yeah,

0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Like I didn't listen to podcasts and go yes man

0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:49.799
<v Speaker 1>about me or anything like that. But I was like,

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:54.359
<v Speaker 1>that's insightful, you know. It's it's just good to have

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:56.920
<v Speaker 1>other opinions in your head and not just be so

0:34:57.000 --> 0:35:00.319
<v Speaker 1>specific with what you believe and who you know is

0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:02.840
<v Speaker 1>in your exactly Chrisphear.

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:05.520
<v Speaker 2>I always think as well, like, if you think about

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:08.920
<v Speaker 2>the opinion you had about things five years ago, you

0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:13.719
<v Speaker 2>probably disagree with some and growth happens when you hear

0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:18.440
<v Speaker 2>something that you initially wouldn't agree with, but you ponder yes.

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Love, guys, I think that's all we have time for me.

0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:25.879
<v Speaker 1>For me, we really went rogue there. But I hope

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:28.319
<v Speaker 1>you enjoyed this conversation. It was lovely chatting to your

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:31.880
<v Speaker 1>dear you too. I loved it. Let it guys, Let

0:35:32.000 --> 0:35:34.000
<v Speaker 1>us know if you want more of these like random

0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:34.279
<v Speaker 1>sort of.

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Chats and philosophical like yeah, like let's talk about Fridays.

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:45.800
<v Speaker 2>It's a pee, it's still alliteration, the same sound, Okay,

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:46.399
<v Speaker 2>I get you.

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much, guys, Thank you so much for listening

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