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Speaker 1: This is a Will and Woody podcast mini.

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Speaker 2: But when you're in a rash, we're going to talk

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Speaker 2: about the story, which is on everybody's tongues Johnny Depp

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Speaker 2: Amber her and we're certainly not going to talk about

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Speaker 2: it because we're ill informed, ill educated, and arguably don't

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Speaker 2: care enough.

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Speaker 1: But Peter Ford certainly does a's train gos commerce bloody

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Speaker 1: legend this play I reckon the best and the is

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Speaker 1: Peter Ford absolutely pants you in the goss off he did.

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Speaker 3: Peter, thanks for joining us, mate, Oh my pleasure. This

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Speaker 3: is absolute gold. This stuff. You literally could not sit

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Speaker 3: down and make it up because people would say, I

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Speaker 3: don't believe a word. And it's all happening right now

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Speaker 3: in the United States Johnny versus Amber.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so this is like Americans or anyone can

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Speaker 1: watch this lie.

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Speaker 3: That's correct, isn't it, Peter? Oh yeah, it's available and

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Speaker 3: you can go on YouTube. You can watch it for

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Speaker 3: hours and hours every day. Johnny was on the stand

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Speaker 3: for several days last week, he was on the stand

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Speaker 3: again today. He's now finished. So you want me to

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Speaker 3: explain this to you life, your idiots, you understand that

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Speaker 3: would be good. What this is is a defamation case.

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Speaker 3: He is suing her personally. A few years ago, she

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Speaker 3: wrote an article about being a victim of domestic violence. Now,

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Speaker 3: I know some people are thinking, oh, didn't we go

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Speaker 3: through all this last year? Well, we sort of did,

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Speaker 3: because last year he sued the Sun newspaper in England

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Speaker 3: and he lost because they called him a wife beata.

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Speaker 3: So we went through a lot of this same territory.

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Speaker 3: This time around, he's suing her in America. He's suing

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Speaker 3: her personally, not suing the publication that published the article.

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Speaker 3: So it's very vicious and there's a lot at stake.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of money at stake. He wants fifty

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Speaker 3: million US because he basically believes his career has been destroyed.

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Speaker 3: Now there's two things that are big factors in what

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Speaker 3: the outcome of this will be. Number one is last

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Speaker 3: year he lost when he sued in England and the

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Speaker 3: paper is to call him a wife beta. The other

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Speaker 3: thing that is relevant to take note of is that

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Speaker 3: in this what was the other thing relevant to take No,

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Speaker 3: I want to forget. I'll come back to that. But

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Speaker 3: it's ugly stuff. I mean, this is allegations of and please,

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Speaker 3: I want to be really clear, this is not I'm

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Speaker 3: not making light of domestic violence. No, this is a

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Speaker 3: defamation case. I don't think it is about domestic violence.

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Speaker 3: I think it's about two nut jobs who basically should

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Speaker 3: be locked up, and certainly their relationship was, by anybody's estimation, toxic.

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Speaker 1: The mudslinging that's gone on, it seems like it's just

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Speaker 1: it's current if I'm wrong, Peter. But the footage that

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Speaker 1: I've seen is a lot of her filming him, asking

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Speaker 1: him questions about what's going on. But the weird thing

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Speaker 1: about the footage is it's almost seems like she knew

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Speaker 1: she was going to be in court with him, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: at a later date. It seems like she's gathering she

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Speaker 1: had been gathering evidence for a long time, Like, why

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Speaker 1: else would you film someone and ask him all these.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's it. I mean, it's weird. I mean he

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Speaker 3: seems to have been recording her a lot of the

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Speaker 3: time too. I mean, this is why I say that

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Speaker 3: this is a very toxic, weird relationship. You know, they

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Speaker 3: either should be both locked up in the asylum or

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Speaker 3: they should go unmarried at first sight, you know, one

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Speaker 3: or the other. Because it's I have to listen to

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Speaker 3: this now. This is a secret recording that Johnny did

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Speaker 3: of a conversation he had with Amber.

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Speaker 1: Okay, do you believe you abused me physically?

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Speaker 2: That's not the question, that's not the question.

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Speaker 3: You started.

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Speaker 2: You started these.

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Speaker 3: And said she started it. Really, I that's the difference

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Speaker 3: between me and you.

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Speaker 2: Why did you try?

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Speaker 1: The difference?

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Speaker 3: That's the whole world and the.

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Speaker 1: Very big difference me and you.

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Speaker 2: Wow, what was that last bit.

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Speaker 1: I've never been able to overpower you and that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so she says that's because of besides, oh I

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Speaker 3: thought of that thing. I forgot And that's because the

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Speaker 3: article that she wrote about being a victim of domestic violence,

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Speaker 3: she never actually named him, but everybody, of course knew

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Speaker 3: or assumed what she was talking about. But the other stuff,

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Speaker 3: a lot of this is playing out allegedly at what

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Speaker 3: happened on the Gold Coast. You know, we're so preoccupied

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Speaker 3: at the time with this whole pistol and boo story.

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Speaker 3: Little did we know that all this may Oh god,

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Speaker 3: it was all happening at mcdowan's house, you know, on Airbnb.

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Speaker 3: Did the former motorbile champion, Yeah, yeah, yeah, he had

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Speaker 3: this beautiful hatch. I think he sold it subsequently, and

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Speaker 3: he was renting it out and these two moved in

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Speaker 3: and it was chaos. I mean, there's photographs that I've

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Speaker 3: sent to you where he cut his finger. Now, no

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Speaker 3: one denies, well, he didn't cut his He saivent his finger.

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Speaker 3: He says she did it with a glass bottle. She

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Speaker 3: says he did it with a throwing smashing a phone up.

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Speaker 3: Either way, and no one disputes the fact. You did,

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Speaker 3: say for his finger. But the logical thing would be

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Speaker 3: if you severed your finger, you say, oh ooop, someone

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Speaker 3: call me an ambulance. But no, he said, get me

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Speaker 3: black paint, because I'm now going to use my stumpy

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Speaker 3: finger and dip it in the black paint, and then

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Speaker 3: I'm going to scrawl on the walls all over the

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Speaker 3: stump finger, you know, so that what you're seeing there

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Speaker 3: is a mixture of black paint and blood and a

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Speaker 3: bit throw it into why not the palette?

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Speaker 1: Wow, Peter Ford, mate, thanks so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Just a little bit of a just a snapshot as

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Speaker 1: to what is going on between Johnny Devi and Amber

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Speaker 1: Heard is extraordinary, as you said, would it's it's you know,

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Speaker 1: the laws in America. You can film the whole court case.

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Speaker 1: Is extraordinary, Peter, thank you so much for joining us

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Speaker 1: as always your legend, always so informative. Really appreciated, mate,

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Speaker 1: Have I got.

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Speaker 3: Weeks of it?

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Speaker 1: To God, this is your grand final, isn't it?

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Speaker 2: Peter. Christmas is at once, She is hey.

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Speaker 1: If anybody is a victim of domestic advance or they

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Speaker 1: are worried about some level of violence within their home,

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Speaker 1: call one at a hundred, respect one at one hundred

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Speaker 1: and seven three seven seven three two if you need

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Speaker 1: to call him.

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Speaker 3: Hear more of the boys on the Full Show podcast.

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Speaker 1: You know you want to