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Speaker 1: Hello, Kady Wolf and three point sixty online at mixed

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Speaker 1: one O four nine dot com. You Matt Hepworth filling

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Speaker 1: in Forcatie Wolf this morning. Well, designs for a three

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Speaker 1: hundred million dollars sporting stadium in the heart of the

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Speaker 1: Darwin CBD have been revealed. To tell us more about

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Speaker 1: it is the chairman of afl NT, Sean Bowden. Get Sean.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Matt Sean.

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Speaker 1: We spoke about this last year when the idea was

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Speaker 1: first floated. Since then, it looks like some detailed plans

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Speaker 1: have been drawn up. For those who haven't seen us,

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Speaker 1: can you tell us what this stadium could look like?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Well, there's a couple of concepts we've put out Matt,

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Speaker 2: led by a pretty high profile and competent design team.

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Speaker 2: The first is a dome type structure which has its

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Speaker 2: roots back in the panthem in Rome, I'm told by

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Speaker 2: the architecture, but it's a unique structure that there's not

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Speaker 2: there's three or four of them in the world, and

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Speaker 2: this would be one of the largest if it was constructed.

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Speaker 2: But for those who do want to look at it,

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Speaker 2: these designs are up on the afl NT website. So

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Speaker 2: your listeners can jump on that website and have a

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Speaker 2: look at these designs. That's the first one. The second

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Speaker 2: one is the more standard are opening and closing roofs,

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Speaker 2: such as people would be familiar with with the Marvel

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Speaker 2: in Melbourne, which is a smaller structure, but that's a

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Speaker 2: roof that opens and shuts on tracks, whereas the dome

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Speaker 2: would ultimately have a louver type system at the top

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Speaker 2: that would enable it to be closed.

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Speaker 1: Sure, obviously that there's shape wise, like you alluded to,

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Speaker 1: one is more of a rectangular and you've got the

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Speaker 1: dome as well. Apart from shape, is there much difference

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Speaker 1: in these two designs.

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Speaker 2: Oh, there is, and we're interested now to cost it out.

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Speaker 2: We've put these designs out initially to get feedback from

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Speaker 2: the public and other stakeholders to see what their thoughts

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Speaker 2: were and what their preferences were. Obviously, the arch textual

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Speaker 2: design is important because we see this as an iconic

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Speaker 2: structure that's going to really link in with Darwin and

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Speaker 2: the Northern Territory as a whole. So we want I

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Speaker 2: want people to see it when they see it, to

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Speaker 2: really appreciate its place in the life of the Northern

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Speaker 2: Territory and what it can achieve. We want that feedback.

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Speaker 2: I have to say the start that the dome is

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Speaker 2: getting a lot of really positive support. It's probably that's

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Speaker 2: got it stay as well ahead at the moment in

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Speaker 2: terms of preferred But what we'll do over the next

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Speaker 2: month or so we start to cost it out and

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Speaker 2: we'll then get the design team now to start doing

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Speaker 2: the costings see what the costs are around it. We've

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Speaker 2: also engaged Price Waterhousekeepers p WC are an international advisory firm.

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Speaker 2: They've got some experience in this field, and we'll be

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Speaker 2: linking p WC with the design team. They're guiding us

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Speaker 2: now as to next steps as to consultations and development

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Speaker 2: of the concept, and we'll you know, next next step

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Speaker 2: will be putting more information out to the public, more

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Speaker 2: information to the government, and we'll just continue to build

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Speaker 2: the concept.

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Speaker 1: I note while both designs do have a roof over

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Speaker 1: the top, both still I guess are not fully enclosed

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Speaker 1: around the side of parts of the stadium. Would that

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Speaker 1: You know, in the peak of the wet season, you'd

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Speaker 1: still probably have by the look of it. I obviously

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Speaker 2: I don't think. So. It's designed so that it gives

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Speaker 2: by Tropo. Architecture nationally and internationally regarded this for this

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Speaker 2: should say this juncture were very great full to Tropole

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Speaker 2: the other groups because they're giving us their time pro bono.

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Speaker 2: other engineers and designers. And you know, this is the

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Speaker 1: Obviously, you guys at AFL and T are leading the

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Speaker 2: This is a facility first and foremost for all of

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Speaker 2: the Northern Territory in all sports. This is for the community,

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Speaker 2: and we're not building this for IFL and T itself,

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Speaker 2: and there's no profit motive here. Mat This is a

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Speaker 2: community minor thing. We obviously want to use it for

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Speaker 2: really well supported. We think that there's a scope for

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Speaker 2: more NRL games. You've got a league soccer, then you've

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Speaker 2: wouldn't see some of those teams coming in. You've got

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Speaker 2: some thinking, some detailed thinking has been given about IPL

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Speaker 2: running out of venues and they're also looking for new

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Speaker 2: really find that you'd be using this stadium fifty two

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Speaker 2: but you could build it up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Sean. The price tag for this has been reported

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Speaker 1: as three hundred million dollars. Obviously it's big money. Who

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Speaker 2: Well, the first step is to work out exactly what

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Speaker 2: there's private infrastructure groups that want to back a concept

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Speaker 2: like this. Today, we have not put our hand out

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Speaker 2: a a really critical role for government governably terrific to

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Speaker 2: date in supporting what we're doing. But this is not

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Speaker 2: project where we're walking in to government saying, oh, look,

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Speaker 2: could you give us one hundred million dollars. Conversations just

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Speaker 2: hasn't happened. It's not going to happen. We're not going

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Speaker 2: that if we prepare this properly, the time's right for

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Speaker 2: that infrastructure investment. Now we all know up here in

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Speaker 2: there is a discussion to be had, not just with

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Speaker 2: And it's a discussion we also want to have around

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Speaker 2: infrastructure and the deficits territory wide, as your listeners well known,

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Speaker 2: and the Commonwealth left and Northern Territory of nineteen seventy

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Speaker 2: be pretty bold to bring the common Wealth back into

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Speaker 2: and our citizens need these opportunities, and that include our

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Speaker 2: remote citizens. You know, we've got enormous football talent out

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Speaker 2: they're playing their sport on inadequate grounds, without change rooms,

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Speaker 2: it's a big discuss, but we're keen to have it.

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Speaker 1: Sean, what happens.

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Speaker 3: Next well, as I say, the next step will be

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to the Northern Territory government, we'll talk to

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Speaker 2: think you and I spoke maybe six months ago. Was

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Speaker 2: it's taken us a bit of time to get the

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Speaker 2: so we're not rushing it. We're we're not going to

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Speaker 2: get ahead of ourselves. So we'll do that careful, careful

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Speaker 2: work with the experts and just keep building it.

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Speaker 1: Matt, Yeah, No, it's good to say that that follow

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Speaker 1: up story and obviously that these plans have been developed now.

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Speaker 1: I think too often in the territory we can hear

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I copy that. And as someone who's spent

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Speaker 2: my intention to be part of that. We've put this

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Speaker 2: we've received extraordinary support. I mean, it could well have

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Speaker 2: the Aboriginal Leadership Group, the land councils, and they have

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Speaker 2: to say we get on and do this. And you've

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Speaker 2: seen Nigel Brown and a Larikia working with us. They're

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Speaker 2: i'd love to see I'd like to call it, have

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Speaker 2: this stadium named by the Larache of people and for

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Speaker 2: them to have an integral and full stake in it.

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Speaker 2: So you know that feedback we've had to date, it's

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Speaker 2: put a bit of wind in ourselves and we'll keep going.

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Speaker 2: We'll build it. We're not going to do it in

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Speaker 2: a so we won't of course, there's no interest for

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Speaker 2: us to do it that way when we're all long

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Speaker 2: a profit motive. This is a concept and IFL has

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Speaker 2: I think twenty five thousand participants in the territory, so

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Speaker 2: we've got a big footprint.

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait to see what happens next. Sean Bannon

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Speaker 1: will have to leave it there. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for your time this morning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks mate, Thanks for giving me the opportunity