1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: Matthew, how would you describe parenting? It is hell? 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 2: Oh my god. It is painful, it is exhausting, it's relentless. 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: But can I also have to say I love my kids, 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: love my kids. It's great. Wouldn't change for the world, 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 2: but it's it's a world of hell. 6 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Well said Well. 7 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 3: Comedian Becky Lucas would explain it probably the same, but 8 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 3: she loves it. 9 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 2: At least I'm not alone Becky Lucas, she is one 10 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: of Australia's favorite comedians. 11 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 3: Yes, she was the first Australian female comedian to feature 12 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 3: on Conan O'Brien. 13 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 4: I think the worst thing about your parents getting divorce 14 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 4: is that they move into two different houses and then you, 15 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 4: as the kid, has to move from house to house. 16 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 4: I remember being little thinking why can't I stay here? 17 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 4: And you guys move to me, and I'm like, why 18 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 4: am I five years old learning how to roll my 19 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 4: socks to fit more room in the suitcase because dad 20 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 4: kiss a woman at a party. Now I get there, 21 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 4: he's like, oh, you forgot your toothbrush. I'm like, dull, 22 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 4: you forgot your wedding bells? 23 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: And it's quite an achievement. Now, Becky, she is a 24 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: mum and boy. It is tough, but it is also 25 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: one of the best things in the world. Gosh, Becky 26 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: and I were so alike. We're soight wh're is the 27 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 2: same person? Both hilarious? Right Ash? 28 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah? Absolutely. 29 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 3: Parenting for Becky has been a bit of a roller 30 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 3: coaster since a son was born. Little George was born 31 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 3: with a heart condition that meant that we have to 32 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 3: go to open heart surgery before his first birthday. Becky 33 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: feels like those early days of motherhood were robbed from her. 34 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: Look. 35 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: It can be tough for a comedian to share a 36 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: vulnerable story of their life, but this is one that 37 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: is incredibly heartfelt and we're so thankful that Becky felt 38 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 2: comfortable to share the story with us today. 39 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, let's get into it. 40 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: Welcome back to two doting dads and one doting mum. 41 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: I am Maddie, Jane, I'm Ash and I'm Becky. 42 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 4: Lucas nailed your own name. 43 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: Sorry for stuffing up the intro. 44 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 4: I think it shows a sense of fun. We're all 45 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 4: This is. 46 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: A podcast all about parenting, Becky. It is the good, 47 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: it is the bad, and the relatable. And if you 48 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: come for advice, not us, not now, not never, but 49 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: maybe from you. 50 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: Maybe, uh huh. 51 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 3: We just have to put that there legally, okay, trouble okay, 52 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 3: but you're allowed to give advice if you've got some. 53 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 4: Okay. 54 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: Now, my question was yeah, and I hate to be 55 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 2: so goddamn cliche. 56 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 4: Hey, don't overthink it. 57 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: But you're from Brisbane. I'm from Brisbane. You asked before 58 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: if I went to Marris what school did you go to? 59 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 4: I went to Brisbane State High What does that mean? 60 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 4: So you're a don't you I'm not an athlete. I 61 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 4: just lived in the catchment. 62 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: Because a comedian. Yeah, I was like, I heard comedy 63 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: is going to be in the Olympics. Well it was. 64 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: It was break dancing, but we're going to have it 65 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: in the next Olympics. No, I made it up. 66 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 4: Come on, Jesus, the jungle has fried? You are you 67 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 4: seem like so we allowed to mention the jungle. 68 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: It was televised. It's over I know. 69 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 4: But what I feels like sensitive, he's just like sensitive 70 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 4: about his time. 71 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 2: Still I'm coming to terms of like what just happened. 72 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: He still has the night terrorists during the day there 73 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: and be like. 74 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 2: The bathroom for one second, come out crying and I'm like, 75 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: did you do the post? 76 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 4: I feel like every time there's a celebrity that goes 77 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 4: into the jungle, they always do a post being like 78 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 4: we saw these amazing leopards and like, did you do that? 79 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 4: I did, because I just feel like every celebrity has 80 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 4: to pretend like, yeah, like I was in there for this, 81 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 4: but also the amazing leopards and. 82 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 3: Your friend goes away for like a month and like, yes, 83 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 3: I lived in London for a month. 84 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, South Africa for like a month. 85 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: In my defense, I took the kids on the safari 86 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: and they saw actually there was two cheaters who just 87 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: killed an antelope. Oh my god, and the thing was. 88 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 4: Like so speaking that local language. 89 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 2: And this thing was so mangled. It was so mangled, 90 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 2: and the kids were like, my kids are five and four, 91 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 2: like what's wrong with it. I was like, it's just sleeping. 92 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:30,239 Speaker 2: And then these two cheaters are gnawing at it and. 93 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 3: They're like make it stop, and I was, my god, 94 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 3: it's a jungle massage. 95 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: I did see a couple of zebra. 96 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 6: Try. 97 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. 98 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: I feel like we sometimes try to get a bit 99 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: of a read on our guests. 100 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 4: Maybe you'll never know me, you will never know. You 101 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 4: can try, you can try, but you'll never know me. 102 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 2: Did you ever get suspended from school? 103 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 4: Yes, but I will say this, it was an in 104 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 4: school suspension. Yeah, I know, I know, but it's really 105 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 4: smart because if you get suspended, you're just at home 106 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 4: with all your things. But in school suspension you just 107 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 4: had to sit outside the office for five days. 108 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 2: Like medieval times. Being on show, you're like one of 109 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: those things too. 110 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 4: Like a hanniballeto mask, and I got it for smoking 111 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 4: cigs in the toilet, Yeah, which is funny. It'd be 112 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 4: funny if someone put a sig through the hannibal leto mask. 113 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: Give a hip. What was your thinking behind smoking cigarettes 114 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: in the toilet? 115 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 4: Just actually liked cigarettes? Yeah, My thinking was like I 116 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 4: like to do this, and I'm going to do this. 117 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 2: Was it the little lunch or the big lunch? 118 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 4: It might have even been like during class. 119 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: Nice you have. 120 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 4: It's kind of funny because it's not even like, oh, 121 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 4: this naughty thing we're planning to do. I'm like just 122 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 4: actually stressed out from class and need my little genuinely 123 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 4: stressed out. 124 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:09,679 Speaker 2: And then how did you get caught? 125 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 4: I was stopped on I actually can't remember bridge it with. 126 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 2: My I honestly, I didn't think you would have been 127 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: type of person. 128 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was smoking. It was more that's the only 129 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: time he was suspended. 130 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 4: I think, So there were other times where it was 131 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 4: like threatened or whatever. But yeah, I was like, I 132 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 4: wouldn't say I was a naughty kid, but I did 133 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 4: get swept up in the moment. 134 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, who was the disciplinary one at hunt? Who have parents? 135 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 4: Thank you for actually bringing that up. Okay, I guess 136 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 4: I guess my fractured home life kind of contributed to Yeah, 137 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 4: it's like but disciplinary. I don't know, Like I guess 138 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 4: both my parents were disciplinarian in a way. But there 139 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 4: is something about them being separated where you never truly 140 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 4: have to answer to anyone too much, Like you can 141 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 4: always stories can be you know, you can kind of 142 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 4: play parents. Yeah, Like if I was ever in trouble, 143 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 4: I could always just gossip about Dad to mom. You know, 144 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 4: She's like, where on your homework? I'm like, I don't know, 145 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 4: but do you know what Dad said the other He said, 146 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 4: this is a really weird thing, and she's interested. So 147 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 4: I could always which I think kind of is bad. 148 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 4: Like I do think I gossip a lot now because 149 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 4: I grew up being able to yeah. 150 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: Dad's good and your girlfriend yeah yeah, quickly change. 151 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 4: That will always be a bit interested in a tidbit 152 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 4: of your life. 153 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: I'll blame having an older sister from my last gossip. Yeah, 154 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, guess, guess what, ash you do love gossip? 155 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 4: There's always something, you know how evolutionary things always get 156 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 4: people out of bad behavior, like I don't know, you'll 157 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 4: you'll or something like, well, gossip was actually an evolutionary 158 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 4: tool because it was the collition of the information about 159 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 4: the mob and the tribe and you were just trying 160 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 4: to like survive, and it's like not used a piece 161 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 4: of shit, but you can like use these things like oh, 162 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 4: it's actually about survival. It's because I'm a woman and 163 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 4: gossip's my only tool in the tribe. 164 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: And before they had. 165 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 3: Delivered thing, they just gossiped its way like Chinese whispers 166 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:28,559 Speaker 3: the next person. 167 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway, let's get back on track. 168 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 4: Okay, sorry, I am a mother. Let's get more into Yah. 169 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 2: So your son is currently with your sister. 170 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, my sister Hannah, who's twenty two, and she's awesome, 171 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 4: but yeah, she we drove here and the windscreen wipers 172 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 4: were on the whole time and she just didn't notice. 173 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: Oh fuck, like she just. 174 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, she's kind of she was awesome, but like saying, 175 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 4: she just doesn't Yeah, she's not aware. 176 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 3: Between you and her, like, yeah, not to point that out, sorry, 177 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 3: but she's quite young. 178 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 4: And I'm quite. 179 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: Going back to the divorce parents, is this? 180 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, second family? I'm Sorryron, simply two half two half 181 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 4: eas Yeah. 182 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: That's enough of that. That's enough questioning for me. I 183 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: just want to get the whole picture. 184 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 4: Okay, what else do you want to do? 185 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 2: I'm sorry for Ash, That's okay, that's all right, He's uh, 186 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: I get it, take it away, keep going. 187 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: I was going to say, okay, so why't. 188 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 6: Ask about the parents, the divorce parents. I want to 189 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 6: know about about Chris, my boyfriend. Yes, okay, what do 190 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 6: you want to know? 191 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: Boy? 192 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? 193 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 2: What did you meet? 194 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 4: We met at a party through a friend. What it was. 195 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 4: He was having a party at his house. 196 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: He was having the party you just said a party, 197 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: not his party. 198 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 4: It was his party. And I was with some friends 199 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 4: actually the boys from the Buttuda Advocate and my friend 200 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 4: Lovely Boys, my friend, my friend Dixie I just arrived 201 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 4: and at first sight for me maybe and Chris, what 202 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 4: do you think, he's just really hot. It's a bit 203 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 4: of acause mostly that it's a power play as well. 204 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 4: It's his house, his party. Yeah, he's got the upper hand, 205 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 4: do you reckon? I kind of think arriving to the 206 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 4: party is a bit of upper hand. I think hosting 207 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 4: a party in a very weak position really a little 208 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 4: bit because you're worrying about how the party is going 209 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 4: to go, your toilets being people taking big dumps, ship 210 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 4: people are doing it. 211 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: You walked down and you like took a big ship 212 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: in the hay. 213 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 4: I'm in control, I have the upper hand. Don't go 214 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 4: in there. 215 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: You kind of think like it's my party, I got 216 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: pick of the birds. 217 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 4: But then that is true, that is true. I think 218 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 4: you could make a case either way. I think there 219 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 4: is a vulnerability in having a party because like if 220 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 4: it's a if it's a failure, that's embarrassing and people 221 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 4: are kind of using your house just however they want, 222 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 4: and you're the one that has to be like, guys, 223 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 4: can you not get there? 224 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 225 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 4: You have to be a bit a bit of a 226 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 4: sort of what's the word anal attentive. 227 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd I can't do I can't host events. 228 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 4: Because I'm just yet. It's just too anxious, and you're 229 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 4: worried about who's talking to who and who's having a 230 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 4: good time, and like, I'm just out of my mind 231 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 4: the whole time. 232 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 2: Who was spearheading the conversation about starting a family? 233 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, isn't it mostly the woman? I feel like men don't. 234 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: It's a good question. 235 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 4: Men don't know that they want it until it happens. 236 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 4: Like he was very like, he was like, yeah, it'd 237 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 4: be cool, and then I sort of pushed it down 238 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 4: the track. And then even like when I was pregnant, 239 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 4: like he was obviously excited and everything, but it felt 240 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 4: like he went but I made all the decisions about 241 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 4: what prem we're getting. I could really barely get him. 242 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 4: But I do feel like, yeah, he didn't care about 243 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 4: all of that stuff or maybe couldn't conceptualize it. And 244 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 4: then as soon as the baby was in front of him, 245 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 4: it was like, which you guys probably remember that feeling 246 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 4: of like can't really conceptualize and then it's there and 247 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 4: he just could not stop crying. Really, and he's not 248 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 4: a crier at all. He was crying so much, Like 249 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 4: our baby had to go to nick You for a 250 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 4: few days because he inhaled a lot of liquids and 251 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 4: he was okay, like he was stable and everything, Like 252 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 4: he was really just there for monitoring. And my boyfriend 253 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 4: cried so much that the nurse in nick You was like, hey, man, 254 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 4: are you okay? It's like the place where the most 255 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 4: crying happens. He still was crying more than anyone. Yeah, 256 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 4: Like he just could not believe happiness, like absolutely overwhelmed 257 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 4: by the love, and ever since then has been so 258 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 4: much more involved than any Like, you know, we can 259 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 4: talk for so long about like, oh, I think we 260 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 4: should buy this type of food and I think this 261 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 4: and he looked like he's pooh. Was like he just 262 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 4: went from being yeah, I couldn't get him really interested 263 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 4: to yeah, that's all we talk about. He's obsessed. 264 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 2: That's the dream though, right, But you would want that 265 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: as opposed to you being like, can you please just 266 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: change an happy? 267 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? No, he's the best, dat he's awesome. 268 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: Where do you think that reluctance came from? 269 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 1: It? 270 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 4: Just I just think I don't know. I mean, I 271 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 4: think it's kind of a cultural thing. Like people are 272 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 4: very anti natalist, you know, Like I do think there's 273 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 4: a bit of anti baby sentiment in the air, and 274 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 4: I don't know what came first. I'm like, is it 275 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 4: because it's harder for people to is it the breakdown 276 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 4: of society where it's like people aren't earning enough money 277 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 4: to have a baby, or like they're not you know, 278 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 4: it's harder to meet a life partner, and so you 279 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 4: just kind of take on this attitude of like babies. 280 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 4: I don't know, I do feel like there's a bit 281 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 4: of that. 282 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: I think it's a bit of a there's two sides 283 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 2: that there's one side of people being like it is amazing, 284 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 2: like it's life changing, I have purpose, and the other 285 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 2: side where it's like rule my life. Yeah I can't 286 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: do anything anymore. 287 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 4: But like both like every day I'm like this is fucked, 288 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 4: and then I'm in the same day I'm I've never 289 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 4: smiled more in my life, Like it's just the joy 290 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 4: is crazy. But it's every day I'm like, what have 291 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 4: I done? 292 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: Is wrong? 293 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 3: It is you know we were talking about this before 294 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 3: where it's like like you can't truly love something all 295 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 3: the time. 296 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: No, You're like, yeah, you're like, oh. 297 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 3: This is amazing, and then you're like then they like 298 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 3: smash a glass off the thing, and you're like. 299 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, totally absolutely, but it's such an exercise. And like, like, 300 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 4: I had a friend the other day who doesn't want kids, 301 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 4: and he was talking about how he took all day 302 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 4: to make a sandwich and I was I had just 303 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 4: had no sleep and it was just so like just 304 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 4: to get to this place where we were going heading 305 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 4: up for a gig, it was just so much, baby, 306 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 4: and I'm like struggling, hunched over zips, like just your 307 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 4: whole day so hard. And he said, like he was 308 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 4: describing making this sandwich all day and then he kind 309 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 4: of was like, oh, sorry because he knows how hard 310 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 4: my day is. But in my mind, I'm like, no, 311 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 4: don't be sorry, Like I'm I love even though it's 312 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 4: I was complaining. I love doing this for my son. Yeah, 313 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 4: and like I get to see him, like I saw 314 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 4: him see a rainbow for the first time, and it's 315 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 4: like it's all worth it. 316 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 2: It's like watch my son see a rainbow for the 317 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: first time and that moment, or make a sandwich all day. 318 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 4: Like yeah, yeah, it sounded pretty good. Actually, but yeah, 319 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 4: it is. It's a funny, it's yeah. I guess it's 320 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 4: also designed perfectly, like because before you do it, you 321 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 4: just don't know how good it is. So like people 322 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 4: who haven't done it or don't want to do it, 323 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 4: they'll never feel that. So it's kind of good. 324 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 2: You don't know what you don't know. 325 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't know what you don't know. But yeah, 326 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 4: it is fucked for pregnant, like not as easy as 327 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 4: I assumed. Maybe I think we tried like five months. 328 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 4: Oh wow, so yeah, like I thought it would be boom, 329 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 4: but five months. It's not as long. I know, like 330 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 4: other people have that much. 331 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, will you spend your twenties trying not to get 332 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: pressured exactly and then when you try and get pregnant 333 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: like oh wow, this is actually. 334 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've had a lot of common Why is this 335 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 4: not taking? They always made it out like like just 336 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 4: one of them was gonna be like and I'm like, well. 337 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 3: Millions, it's sort of like if you're throwing off ship 338 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 3: at the wall, something's going to stick, right, That's what comes. 339 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 2: I'm imagining Betty just like covered in like sick, Something's 340 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 2: going to stick. 341 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, Chris, is there like nothing else. 342 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: Like Matt from the Jungle. 343 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 2: When Chris found out, was he on board or was Yeah. 344 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 4: Like immediately was really happy. But I just think before 345 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 4: then didn't have the drive that I did, Like, wasn't 346 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 4: as alongside me as I would have wanted. But I 347 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 4: just I don't know whether it was hormonal or whatever, 348 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 4: but I was like, it's happening, and I just knew 349 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 4: he'd love it once he did it. 350 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, was it an easy pregnancy. 351 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 4: It was physically, but we had a like we had 352 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 4: a pretty hectic time. At my seventeen week scan, it 353 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 4: was actually it was earlier. I maybe had an earlier 354 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 4: scan at like fourteen weeks. So I'm really bad at talking, seriously, 355 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 4: I feel it's a new skill to like talk earnestly, Like, 356 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 4: especially as a comedian, you just always want to get laughed. 357 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 4: So you're like, oh, they accept me, so to speak 358 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 4: covered and come exactly, and then you laugh and I'm like, Okay, 359 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 4: everything's all good, and now I have to be earnest 360 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 4: and no. So at my fourteen week scan, the lady 361 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 4: sort of couldn't see all of the heart, but she 362 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 4: didn't seem worried. She was like, oh, it's just really 363 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 4: small and he's in a weird position. So come back 364 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 4: in a few weeks. So I didn't think anything of it. 365 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 4: That my GP was like, that's normal. So I went 366 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 4: back at seventeen weeks like happy as Larry. Everything up 367 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 4: until then had been perfect, perfect, perfect, So I just 368 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 4: never thought anything of it. And then she was doing 369 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 4: the scan and this lady wasn't saying anything, and I 370 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 4: was like, can you see what you're looking for? And 371 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 4: she said, oh, I think I can. I'm just going 372 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 4: to get the obstetrician to talk to you. And so 373 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 4: then it was just like like the worst feeling I've 374 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 4: I actually haven't talked about his phages but and so 375 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 4: then I got put into a little room for fifteen 376 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 4: minutes by myself, and the obstetrician walked in and just 377 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 4: pushed the tissues towards me. You're kidding, yeah, And she 378 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 4: said it's not good news, and I started crying, and 379 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 4: she basically started describing what it was, but never kind 380 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 4: of got into like you just want information, Like I 381 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 4: was like, so does this what does this mean? Like 382 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 4: am I so we have to terminate it or whatever? 383 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 4: And she said, we just don't know she's actually quite 384 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 4: strange as an obstitution, Like this lady. She because when 385 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 4: I was crying, she goes, Oh my god, she goes, 386 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 4: this is actually the worst part of my job. 387 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: I was like yeah. 388 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 4: I was like, okay, sorry, why do we. 389 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: Do the best? Yeah? 390 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 4: Right, So she was like, he has this thing called 391 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 4: I suspect he has this thing called Tetralogy of Fallow. 392 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 4: And it's I know, it's called Tetralogy of Fallow. 393 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: The things I know. 394 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 4: I wish it was more simple because no one can 395 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 4: remember it. It sounds like a JR. Tolkien novel or something, 396 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 4: but it's it's like there's four things that have gone 397 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 4: wrong with the heart, so they only need to correct too, 398 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 4: and that's the whole, and there's the valve. But the 399 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 4: thing is it can be a sign of other abnormalities. 400 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 4: So I didn't know whether I was going to have 401 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 4: what he had had genetic abnormalities, and we would have 402 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 4: to terminate at like twenty weeks, which would have been 403 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 4: so horrible anyway, So we went in at twenty weeks 404 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 4: and had everything done and they were like, no, he's 405 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 4: actually completely healthy and normal except for this thing. And 406 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 4: they said it was actually funny because a lot of 407 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 4: like I got a lot of comfort from the women 408 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 4: who were like, it's okay, darling, everything's going to be fine. 409 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 4: We have so many kids who come in with this 410 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 4: gets fixed. And I liked that kind of caring, feminine reassurance. 411 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 4: Whereas my boyfriend, who's half Chinese, doesn't like all of 412 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 4: that very fairy talk. And he loved the doctor because 413 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 4: the doctor was this Chinese guy, this little guy called 414 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 4: doctor guy, and he just looked at it and he said, 415 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 4: we can fix, we can fix, and he's like, it's fine, 416 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 4: I fix all the time. It's fine outset. Yeah, And 417 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 4: like my boyfriend like enjoyed a Chinese man who knows 418 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 4: what he's talking about, like assuring us of and so, yeah. 419 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 2: At least you had both ends of the spectrum, like 420 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 2: you have your self touch of the you had like 421 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 2: the firmness of the Chinese doctor. 422 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 4: So totally everyone's covered. Yeah, And so they do. They 423 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 4: f it's kind of their bread and butter surgery. There's 424 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 4: literally today would be two three kids right now at 425 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 4: Westmead getting it done. It's like something that they'd fix 426 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 4: a lot, but it is something that to fix, to 427 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 4: fixate its open heart surgery. Yeah on a baby. 428 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, baby, not a child. 429 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 4: And so this is all happened like so this is 430 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 4: before I've had the baby. So they're all very confident 431 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 4: and like we fix it all the time. And they 432 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 4: make me feel like, you know, back to the pregnancy, 433 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 4: just you know, he's healthy and like we'll fix it 434 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 4: and these are all the steps. But you know, I'm 435 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 4: reading things online and there's a big spectrum and there's 436 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 4: people who've had a really terrible time with it. But 437 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 4: I also think you have to remember when you're reading 438 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 4: stuff online, the sort of person who posts in online 439 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 4: forums is a very anxious person usually, do you know 440 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 4: what I mean? Like, so, yeah, anyway, so I just 441 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 4: tried to be positive and stuff, and then I had 442 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 4: the baby and it's suddenly like, oh, they're going to 443 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 4: do this to my baby. And so that then became 444 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 4: like I had been quite positive and like it's fixable, 445 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 4: blah blah blah, and then suddenly it was like, but 446 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 4: what if it's not and what if something goes wrong? 447 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:49,959 Speaker 4: And then I had this little baby? 448 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 2: How long until they have the surgery? 449 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 4: So they didn't know. So the heart kind of takes 450 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 4: a little while to settle when the baby's born, Like 451 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 4: there's a few little vowels and stuff that open and 452 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 4: shut just in general, so they just had to see 453 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 4: how it all settled and then keep an eye on it, 454 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 4: and then they would decide based on how much oxygen 455 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 4: he's getting and everything. So when he was born, they 456 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 4: said probably around in six months. We had a surprise 457 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 4: hospital visit. They can go blue. They go blue when 458 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 4: the valve gets constricted, and it can happen like if 459 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 4: they're having a big crying fit or whatever. So that 460 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 4: just added because they cry. So when he would cry, 461 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 4: like normal people are freaking out, but I'm freaking out 462 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 4: because I'm worried he's going to go blue. So like 463 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 4: all of my anxieties were just so heightened. But then 464 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 4: I also had a really normal experience, like whenever I 465 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 4: talk to other mums, we were dealing with the same thing, 466 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 4: but I just had such an extra worry. And then 467 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 4: we had a hospital stay that was unexpected. He had 468 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 4: a blue spell during one of his checkups and then 469 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 4: it was suddenly like we're getting rushed to Westmead Hospital 470 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 4: and we were there for a week. And I don't 471 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 4: know if you've ever been on a ward with a child, 472 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 4: It's just like I had a little You have to 473 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 4: put them to sleep, and there's six other babies screaming, 474 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 4: and then it's a nightmare and the nurses come in, 475 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 4: so you just I just get him to sleep, and 476 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 4: then the nurse would come in and take his blood 477 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 4: pressure and he'd wake up screaming, and I'd get him settled, 478 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 4: and another baby would wake up screaming, and I just 479 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 4: didn't sleep for the entire I felt like I was 480 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 4: in hell. There was a woman next to me and 481 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 4: her little girl, Huffsa. She had a little girl and 482 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 4: she was coming down off she'd just had heart surgery 483 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 4: and she was recovering and she was in delirium. So 484 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 4: her little girl screamed for like twenty three hours of 485 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 4: twenty four hours. They couldn't do anything, and then they 486 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 4: and then there's like hell, yeah, and that happened to 487 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 4: my son as well. 488 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: I've never heard never I know that. 489 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, hope that's a good thing. 490 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I get like, like for them to scream, do 491 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 3: they explore what, like why they screamed so much? 492 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: They just so not all of them. 493 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 4: Get screaming delirium. My son went cross eyed, which was 494 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 4: actually I'm laughing now, but I it wasious, like it 495 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 4: was fucked. I was so upset because no one knew 496 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 4: what was going on either. They were like, we don't 497 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 4: really know why he's doing that. We can do a 498 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 4: brain scan tomorrow, and I'm like, please don't talk about 499 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 4: We've just done the heart. I know, because the whole 500 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 4: time it's been like, you know, with the brain, that's 501 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 4: that's very scary. It so seems so unknown. But with 502 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 4: the heart, like even though it's horrific, it's a pump, 503 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 4: like it's mechanical. They can fix it. Like my midwife 504 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 4: would always say, like he's got a pumbing issue, but 505 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 4: we can fix it. And that kind of calmed me down, 506 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 4: is there? 507 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 2: And this is like a confronting question, So apologies to 508 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 2: ass but you know, you think all the feedback you're 509 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 2: getting from the medical staff is that this is fixable 510 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: and this is not something that we haven't dealt with before, 511 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 2: we have experience here. But at the same time, open 512 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 2: heart surgery is full on in your head. Are you 513 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 2: also trying to manage expectations of like I wanted to 514 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 2: go well, but things might not work out. I know, 515 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 2: where's your head at? Leading into that five months. 516 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 4: I was just so mental because yeah, it's like how 517 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 4: do you love? I loved this thing that I felt 518 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 4: also like he could be taken from me, and like 519 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 4: they would talk about, you know, they have to tell 520 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 4: you what they're going to do in the surgery and 521 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 4: I never wanted to be told, but you know, they 522 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 4: have to break his sternum and his blood is outside 523 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 4: of his body, he's they stop his heart as a 524 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 4: five month old like this, and he was you know, 525 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 4: I know everyone thinks their baby special, but like he 526 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 4: just is so full of life and so happy, and 527 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 4: like I couldn't. Yeah, there was. It was very tough 528 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 4: because I felt like I had to confront his death 529 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 4: all the time. Like I just felt like every day 530 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 4: I had to think, like every time he smiled or 531 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 4: did something, I was like, you might die. And it 532 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 4: almost made me scared of him, like like I was 533 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 4: scared of his weakness. And I also think other people 534 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 4: were were a little bit too, because we always It's 535 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 4: like when people talked about him, they always said like, 536 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 4: look how strong he is it, look how big and 537 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 4: tough he is, And it was almost like are we 538 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 4: saying this? Because to love him being weak, it's like, 539 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 4: can we not love him as a weak baby? Like, yeah, 540 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 4: he has to show how strong he is in every 541 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 4: other way, do you know what I mean? And I like, yeah, exactly. 542 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: For you to be like, well, it's like everything's okay, 543 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: and it's like it's not. 544 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 4: And even like when he was recovering from the open 545 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 4: heart surgery, he didn't recover as quickly as they had predicted. 546 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 4: He actually caught COVID somehow during operation or just after, 547 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 4: and yeah, so he was under sedation for longer and 548 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 4: it was a scary time, but the doctors and the 549 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 4: nurses were like, it's okay, he's recovered ring Like he's 550 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 4: taking his time, and he's recovering at the pace he 551 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 4: needs to. He doesn't have to recover perfectly, you know, and. 552 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 3: Like everyone recovers from yeah, and that includes a five 553 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 3: month old baby totally. 554 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 4: And I think, yeah, we had had this whole narrative 555 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 4: of like, oh, he's so tough, he's going to kick 556 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 4: surgery and the balls, and like it's actually like it's 557 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 4: actually okay that he didn't and he's still lovable. So yeah, 558 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 4: it was a very tough time. Like I was it 559 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 4: was weird because yeah, in so many ways I had 560 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 4: a you know, he was a normal baby, and but 561 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 4: I just could not enjoy it in the same way. 562 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 4: And I like, really, it feels like life has started now. 563 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 3: Yes, so the lead up to the surgery, not knowing 564 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 3: when it's going to happen, I suppose they. 565 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 4: Said yes, but then we did lock it in. Okay, 566 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 4: So after that hospital stay that the surgeon was like, 567 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 4: let's just lock it in. We'll do it. And the 568 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 4: lead up is just I mean, I lost my mind. 569 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 4: I was just like I would walk around crying, weeping 570 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 4: in public, like I don't know you, I just it 571 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 4: was just so sad. So I'm going to cry. It's 572 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 4: so funny that I was talking about being having come 573 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 4: but yeah, it's it's like a it's oh my god, 574 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 4: it's embarrassing. I mean, yeah, obviously it's a sad topic. 575 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 4: But he's really good now, Like he's really he's really strong. 576 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 4: He's actually already. 577 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 3: Lifting other than you waiting for surgery or is it normal? 578 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: Like everything is well? 579 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 4: They tell me, like they they're like, yeah, he can 580 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 4: do everything. He needs to check up every year for 581 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 4: the rest of his life and he will need when 582 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 4: he's older, like when he goes through puberty, they will 583 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 4: need to put another valve in. That's the main thing. 584 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 4: But the surgeon seems to think that they won't have 585 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 4: to do open heart again, that they can do most 586 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 4: of these things via catheter. So I'll always worry, like 587 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 4: I'll just always freak out. And he's so active and 588 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 4: sometimes I'm like, just chill, chill. Yeah, i just want 589 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 4: him to be a ballet dancer or something. I wanted 590 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 4: to be athletic, but like not contact sport. Yeah, And 591 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 4: I'm just scared that he was going to want to 592 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 4: play rugby. And because there's a fame that you do know, 593 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 4: Sean White, the Olympic snowboarder, he has tetralogy A fellow 594 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 4: really yeah, so he needed like three open heart surgeries. 595 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 2: Before the age of five, flying in the air like 596 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 2: twenty feet out of our heart. 597 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. And like he you know, did football and like 598 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 4: they can definitely do apparently whatever other kid does. 599 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 2: I will not tell George that George reading. 600 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, You're going to just live with mummy, 601 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 4: Like you. 602 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 2: Know, when you go through that traumatic experience as a 603 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 2: parent and you come out the other end. And we 604 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 2: spoke before about the fact that parenting is amazing, but 605 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 2: those are moments are matched with moments where it's exhausting, 606 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 2: it's relentless, it's so bloody hard. Do you ever get 607 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 2: guilt your life? 608 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 4: You know? 609 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 2: I thought I might lose you. 610 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're pissing me on Yeah, yeah, totally. And 611 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 4: then and then that's even harder because I'm like, I'm 612 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 4: not even allowed to have the normal experience of being 613 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 4: pissed off at your kids. Yeah, it does feel like 614 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 4: I was it almost the different ways in which I 615 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 4: feel I've been robbed emerge like I don't even I 616 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 4: wasn't even prepared, Like he's he's not a great sleeper, 617 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 4: but only because we are. You know, for the first 618 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 4: six months of his life, they said, don't let him 619 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 4: cry too much because he might go blue and lose oxygen. 620 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 4: And then he has his heart fixed, and they're like, yep, 621 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 4: he's good. His heart's like fixed. You can let him 622 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 4: scream his head off, but that's a very hard thing 623 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 4: for us to do. 624 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 2: We don't want to do that. 625 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 4: So because of that, he just runs rings around us, 626 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 4: like we just do whatever he wants, like yeah, which 627 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 4: you know, probably isn't good for him. Like, I know 628 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 4: that I need to teach him to sleep, and that 629 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 4: will require me like dealing with my own anxiety around 630 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 4: his health for his own sake. But that's just really 631 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 4: hard to do. And yeah, I just feel angry sometimes 632 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 4: that I can't even do I can't do that, Like, 633 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 4: but yeah, I. 634 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: Don't know what does a sleep team look like for 635 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: you guys? 636 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 4: Well, just he does what he wants. We kind of 637 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 4: cater to that, and no, we tried to. You know, 638 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 4: he has his stories and his toys and stuff. We're 639 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 4: slowly getting him to learn to fall asleep without the boob. 640 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 4: But I fed to sleep just for every Yeah, it's easy, 641 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 4: and you know, I'm like, he's been through so much, 642 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 4: Like I'll give him some titty, Yeah, given the boob 643 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 4: when they love it, it's like who am I to 644 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 4: take it from him? And you can always find someone 645 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 4: to justify it. 646 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 2: But I think every parent. We have another friend who's 647 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 2: got a baby that doesn't sleep, and the dad is like, 648 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 2: I just can't if the baby's sleeping, Like I've just 649 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 2: got to go in there, and you know that you're 650 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 2: doing a disservice to the baby. But You're like, we 651 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 2: used to rock Marley to sleep every single nap she 652 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 2: had and then transition into a car like we were. 653 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 2: We gave her like a life of pure luxury and 654 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 2: so then when it was time for her to like 655 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 2: fend for herself, she was like, yeah, you've You've held 656 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 2: my hand every step of the way, and now you 657 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 2: can let go. 658 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: Transition is like it's like handling an explosive. 659 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 4: You're like, and you start hating any sound like yeah, 660 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 4: the I'm like, if I had a gone, I would 661 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 4: have shot a bunch of dogs, like or like someone's 662 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 4: doing repairs in the building. I'm like, oh, you're you're 663 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 4: plumbing just had to be fixed. 664 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 3: Like my daughter, or like maybe my daughter was having 665 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 3: a nap and it would be like the neighbor hated this. 666 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: I reckon. She just drilled on purpose. I get a call, 667 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: I'm going to go over there. 668 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 4: I'm like, go on, Yeah, I was like, it gets 669 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 4: so psycho. I was laughing the other day. I mean, 670 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 4: I'm still in it. Like but with my family. We 671 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 4: went to visit my family over Christmas and I was 672 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 4: inside having a nap with George, just got him to sleep. 673 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 4: He was in a really good nap, and there was 674 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 4: a freak do you know what a whirlyworli is? It 675 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 4: was like a mini tornado. Yeah, a freak whirly whirly 676 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 4: whipped through my parents seriously, and it lifted all the 677 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 4: lawn furniture in the air and a big umbrella and 678 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 4: my stepmom tried to grab it and she got all lifted. Seriously, 679 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 4: she nearly died. Everyone's screaming and I'm in the room 680 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 4: and I come out and I'm like, he just got 681 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 4: to sleep. 682 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 7: So's it's funny how like psychotic you get, like because 683 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 7: I know that, like. 684 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, that it's so precious, especially like a nap. The 685 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 3: naps in the day sets you up for what your 686 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 3: night's going to fucking you think. 687 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 4: It does, and it's like does it? It does, and 688 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 4: you're like, we have to get on the schedule again, and. 689 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:35,760 Speaker 1: Then there's just like one noise. 690 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 4: He's like, for god, I know, yeah, And you have 691 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 4: no control over anything that you think if you can 692 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 4: control nap time and weak windows and stuff. 693 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 3: But my parents were over the other day and both 694 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 3: kids have been like didn't up all day. It was 695 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 3: like a really big day for them. My parents came 696 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 3: in the late afternoon. So they're excited again because my 697 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 3: parents are there, and then they go after sleep. My 698 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 3: dad's such a gone death, I reckon, so allowed to Yeah, 699 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 3: every five minutes, I'm like. 700 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: Shut and he's like, we here to visit you. I'm like, 701 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: I wish I did it. Now they're away again. 702 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 4: It's like they punish you, the parents, like they like 703 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 4: seeing us in turmoil. 704 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,439 Speaker 1: Oh for sure, for sure. I mean they're like, we've 705 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: done it, now. 706 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 4: You've got it, and they think we're insane, Like I 707 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 4: think they just put us down when we were tired 708 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 4: and they just didn't follow all this stuff, or as 709 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 4: we're like, we actually need five hours before bedtime in 710 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 4: order to get the sleep. 711 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: Pressure to see everyone thinks sleep, everyone think about being 712 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: and then. 713 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 2: They're looking at Chris and being like, wow, he's such 714 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,399 Speaker 2: a great father, he's so hands on. 715 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess so, I think there's a bit of 716 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 4: that reluctant. I don't know what they're thinking. I think 717 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 4: I think I'm such a psycho that they're mostly focused 718 00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 4: on I'm still mental. I reckon, if you can't. 719 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 1: Tell you. 720 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,720 Speaker 4: I haven't picked up, just come out of the jungle. 721 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 4: So you do. 722 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 3: You think I'm coming off the back of April being 723 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 3: mental for so many years and it's completely I feel like, 724 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,399 Speaker 3: it's so it's so normal to be like, we're all 725 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 3: so hyper sensitive in that moment, your way, in the 726 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 3: absolute thick of it has got nothing on that you 727 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 3: remember that you're. 728 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 2: Like people, people who are in the first years amazing, amazing, 729 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 2: But there was also the. 730 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 3: Hell it's like we also we joke a lot. Is 731 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,960 Speaker 3: like I don't remember, we don't remember. You forget all 732 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 3: about this until you have another one, and then you 733 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,240 Speaker 3: forget all about it all over again. 734 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean. And also it's like, but I love it, 735 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,399 Speaker 4: like I'm in hell, but I love it. And it's 736 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 4: hard to. 737 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 2: Explain that you have produced is like trying to understand 738 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 2: it doesn't no parents when you're like, it's hell, but 739 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 2: I've like, but I'm I've acclimatized to it. Yeah, I'm 740 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 2: used to it, and I've got a comfy seat. 741 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,360 Speaker 3: It becomes you're like, it becomes like your whole hobby, 742 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 3: your whole life. You'rely and this I actually don't can't 743 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 3: see it any other way anymore. 744 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 4: I know, And I feel like it's a like you 745 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,240 Speaker 4: you're passing on. Like not having kids for me felt 746 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 4: a bit like refusing to have your turn in tiggy, 747 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 4: you know, like the kids, yeah are actually like I'm like, 748 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 4: I've come down an ancestral line of like, you know, 749 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 4: I've got a pretty interesting family, like we all do. 750 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 4: But like my dad's family, his mum was Aboriginal, his 751 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 4: dad was Russian. You know, it's just hectic. And it's 752 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 4: just like women for so long have just been like 753 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 4: squatting out kids in absurd circumstances, so difficult, and it's 754 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 4: just so funny for me to be in like bed 755 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 4: ordering uber eats, like no, I don't think I can 756 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 4: do it. 757 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,359 Speaker 1: Strategy like don't knock, don't look me in the eyes. 758 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 3: Like my my grandfather's indigenous and he was one of fourteen. 759 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: Yeah fuck did his mum do fourteen? And we've got 760 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: like two and we're like, don't wake them up? 761 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 4: Yeah exactly. And it just felt like it like it's 762 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 4: my turn and I just had to do it. 763 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 2: I don't know, how are you finding doing it in 764 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 2: regards to work. 765 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 4: It's in some ways it's really good because I used 766 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,879 Speaker 4: to be so neurotic about putting you know, like I'm 767 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 4: going to try this new joke and I get really 768 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 4: doubt if it didn't work or whatever, and now it's 769 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 4: like fuck it. Like I'm quite free of mind. Like 770 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 4: I go, I'm doing bedtime, dinner time, it's bath and 771 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 4: then I have to get in a like uber and 772 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 4: go to a gig and I just have to try it. 773 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 4: And I think that kind of I don't give a 774 00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,800 Speaker 4: fuck attitude is like helpful. 775 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, as your material change them, it. 776 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 4: Has Yeah, but then you also have a lot of 777 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 4: time to think about stuff like I'm lying there with 778 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 4: this during nap time, and you have like time to 779 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,760 Speaker 4: be a bit you know, I can write, Yeah. 780 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 3: The things that you didn't maybe, like you might just 781 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 3: be walking down the street with your baby and you're 782 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 3: like okay, and then you get home and you're like, okay, 783 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,359 Speaker 3: I'm waiting for the baby to wake up. Way, I'm 784 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,280 Speaker 3: observing things that happened different now. 785 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, And you're also just rooted in, you know, humanity 786 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 4: a bit more Like when I talk to Uber drivers now, 787 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 4: it's like we're both like I love my kids. It's 788 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 4: like I fucking love my kid, and it's like you're 789 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 4: all the other day was at the airport in Coffs 790 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 4: Harbor and I saw this mom and it was so 791 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 4: cute her little her girl was coming to Sydney and 792 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 4: she had her little Sydney outfit on, like oh you know, 793 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 4: little Ara and William's boots and she. 794 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: Had a little backpack Sydney. 795 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just so excited and the mom, you know, 796 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 4: you could see her saying goodbye to her and it's like, oh, 797 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 4: you know. And I really felt that, like, oh my god, 798 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 4: they grow up and then they leave and I just 799 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 4: might not have ever observed that before and understood. It's 800 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 4: like you you see what roots people to or like 801 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 4: binds them to the earth, like why they work, why 802 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 4: they do these things, like. 803 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 2: You do it no greater purpose? 804 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you just love and it's fun to show 805 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 4: a new human being how to enjoy the world. Like 806 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 4: I just think about my son's the experiences he gets 807 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 4: will will have in his life, like just even I 808 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,760 Speaker 4: don't know, waking up on a nice morning and smelling 809 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 4: like a nice smell, and I think about him doing that. 810 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 4: It makes me happy. 811 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:40,959 Speaker 1: The first Yeah, just. 812 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 3: New things like trying to get on their level too, 813 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 3: with seeing something for the first time, like when as 814 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:51,240 Speaker 3: adults when I'm like, fucking look that you imagine. 815 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 4: Like everything everything dropping acid all day and then we're 816 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 4: like go to sleep, go to sleep where. 817 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 1: I just want to rainbow. You just tell me a 818 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:03,720 Speaker 1: fucking rainbow. 819 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 2: You like, go to sleep now. 820 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 4: Anything? 821 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:08,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? 822 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 2: Is it hard to work at the same pace, like 823 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 2: at the moment I laid fringes on, Yeah, speaking to 824 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 2: other comedians and they'll do like consecutive shows like ten, fifteen, 825 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 2: twenty shows back to back. 826 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're probably talking to the men doing it 827 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 4: as well, which is very different. Like I don't actually 828 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 4: not to be like I'm the only because I'm not. 829 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 4: But I don't know many women who've I'm still breastfeeding 830 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,839 Speaker 4: and stuff. I don't really know women who've gone back 831 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 4: to it in this way. And I'm actually a bit nervous, 832 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,879 Speaker 4: to be honest, Like I'm excited to do the show 833 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 4: and I hope that it's good and people like it, 834 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 4: but I'm really scared to do it. Then you can't 835 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 4: like when I've done Adelaide and Melbourne. You know, you 836 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 4: do your show and then you go home and you 837 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 4: think about what worked and didn't work, and you can 838 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 4: really like put that time into it and I just can't. 839 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 4: I mean I can. I'll have to find ways to 840 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,319 Speaker 4: do that to keep my little human alive exactly. It's 841 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 4: just that there will be balancing and. 842 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: I hope that's okay, you'll take him. 843 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 4: Yeah. So luckily Chris has been able to take time 844 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 4: off work so I can tour and stuff. 845 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:14,840 Speaker 1: Wow, OK, yeah cool. 846 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. Crazily I'm the bread winner and I'm 847 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 4: a comedian. It's like not, it's not normal. I remember 848 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 4: when I realized I needed money to It's a really 849 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 4: crazy but I realized. I was at the Now salon 850 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,879 Speaker 4: and this rich woman was talking to me and I said, oh, yeah, 851 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 4: I'm thinking about having a baby. We started talking and 852 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,359 Speaker 4: she said, oh, what do you do? And I said 853 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 4: I'm a comedian and she went and she said what 854 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 4: does your partner do? And I said he's a social worker, 855 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 4: and she went like she could not hide her disdain. 856 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 2: You're working in like I don't know, as an avatar 857 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 2: or like killing animals entertain people. 858 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, an avatar at least has a regular paycheck. 859 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 1: You're a frustration a dead animal. 860 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,840 Speaker 2: I think the work is admirable. 861 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:19,720 Speaker 1: On your side. 862 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 4: I don't think she meant it was not admirable. I 863 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 4: think she was just like, what are you going to 864 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 4: do for money? You have a it's not a real 865 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 4: thing to do. And she's not wrong. 866 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,479 Speaker 2: You're proving her, proving her wrong. 867 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 4: That's true. That's true. I have done well And if 868 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 4: people just want to keep buying tickets, that would be 869 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 4: really good. 870 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 2: Put some information in the show notes. 871 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 4: Definitely, Yeah, please. 872 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 2: Or two questions. Okay, I know that it's still early days, 873 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,359 Speaker 2: like you're still with a newborn, so maybe way too 874 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 2: premature to ask this question, but will you go a second? Yeah? 875 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,400 Speaker 4: I would love to. I feel like it would be 876 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 4: very healing to go through the process and hopefully not 877 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 4: have something go, you know, the health thing or fucked 878 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 4: if it happens again. It's not a gen anything, it's 879 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 4: just a freak accident. But I would love to. I 880 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 4: just don't know how. We don't have family in town. 881 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,719 Speaker 4: It feels like we're just handballing him back and forth. 882 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,279 Speaker 4: We haven't nanny once a week. Day Care could be 883 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,880 Speaker 4: life changing, and it is. I used to be like 884 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 4: no daycare, and now I'm like, what about daycare? 885 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 1: Honestly, I think like I think we waited. 886 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 2: We waited till Marley was like definitely beyond twelve months. Yeah, 887 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 2: we put her in for a couple of days a 888 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,359 Speaker 2: week and we just, yeah, you. 889 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 1: Don't know yourself. 890 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm thinking eighteen months two days a week. 891 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:38,319 Speaker 2: We change. 892 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: We forget that. 893 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 3: It's like the stimulation that they get to like it 894 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 3: might be like feel like I'm just off boarding. 895 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 1: It's to someone else, but they have so much. 896 00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, new toys, and he does come alive with other people, 897 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 4: like he gets bored of me and then loves. He'll 898 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 4: be grizzly and then we go out and he's like weaving. 899 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,759 Speaker 1: And everyone and then just do so much with Yeah. 900 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 1: It's you know, and there's other kids doing the same ship. 901 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 2: So I think I am thinking the waiting lists in 902 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:08,720 Speaker 2: Sydney are pretty extreme. 903 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,080 Speaker 1: So we're just going to add to totally. 904 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 4: I should I think once I have a little and 905 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 4: you know, once he gets at the moment, we're just 906 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 4: still definitely in the trenches of like totally it's just 907 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,360 Speaker 4: physically hard. 908 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:24,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you mentioned we handball, Yeah, and it's every 909 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 3: couples doing the same thing. We're like, you know, like 910 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 3: you taking for now and get some rare a lot 911 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 3: of families going through all that. But when you when 912 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 3: you have two, it does become a bit more difficult. 913 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,960 Speaker 3: But then they sort of go together. 914 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 4: I know, and you kind of need you need. You 915 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,959 Speaker 4: can't play a ball game without four people. You kind 916 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 4: of need two kids, two adults for family holidays. 917 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 2: You can't play with three. But it's a bit ship. 918 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is a bit and the dynamics wrong. It 919 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 4: has to be two kids ganging up on the parents totally. 920 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's even then. 921 00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got my nieces. 922 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 3: She's an only child child, and I think there will 923 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:02,920 Speaker 3: be the case. So I'm just like reluctant. 924 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 4: Oh no, I mean I'm an only child technically. 925 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 2: Winning thoughts and prayers with winning. 926 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm an only child technically, but I do have 927 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,280 Speaker 4: two half sisters, but you know, we didn't grow up together, 928 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 4: so I very much identify as an only child. 929 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, my kids, like they just bicker. 930 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:27,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, we will caveat that. Previous conversation is the only 931 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,799 Speaker 2: children are great, and they are fantastic. 932 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 4: I think they are cameras. I think they take on 933 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 4: a lot. As an only child, you take on like 934 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 4: you're very aware of your parents' son. Am makers when 935 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 4: you have a sibling, you're in your own Yeah, And 936 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 4: I do get sad sometimes because I think there is 937 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,919 Speaker 4: no one in the entire world who knows what it's 938 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 4: like to have my mum. No one, you know, you 939 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 4: can know her, but no one will know what it's 940 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:55,720 Speaker 4: like to be raised. 941 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. 942 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 4: Whereas now with half sisters, we can talk about my 943 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,839 Speaker 4: dad or whatever. And that is a novel experience to 944 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 4: have other people, Yeah, being parented by my dad, whereas yeah, 945 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 4: where are you going with this? Is this just going 946 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:15,879 Speaker 4: a trail off? 947 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 2: I don't know if the sort of picked up a 948 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 2: bust is. 949 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 4: Like listen, Nick Cody was a lot more. 950 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 2: One more question and I have for you, Becky, when 951 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 2: George is all grown up, yes he's no longer living 952 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,239 Speaker 2: at home. If that time does come, who knows is 953 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 2: the one thing you would want him to remember about 954 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 2: the house that he grew up in. 955 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 1: Oh. 956 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,839 Speaker 4: I just want him to remember like comfort and like 957 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,279 Speaker 4: nice moments which his dad's really good at making, like 958 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 4: he really he knows, like Saturday morning, let's make pancakes 959 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 4: and put nice music on, and like coziness is such 960 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 4: a nice thing. And I also want him to feel 961 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,839 Speaker 4: understand good I want him to feel like, well, we've 962 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:07,319 Speaker 4: really listened to him and made the effort to like 963 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 4: understand where he's coming from and his life. And yeah, 964 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 4: I don't know. My parents can never remember my friend's names, 965 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,360 Speaker 4: and I find that so frustrating. And it's like, I 966 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,799 Speaker 4: just want to remember everything about his life, even if 967 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 4: he finds it over Mary. I want to be an 968 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:25,319 Speaker 4: overbearing mom. 969 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 1: I do. 970 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:26,880 Speaker 4: I think it's nice. 971 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:31,359 Speaker 2: I've really spoken for an hour, but it sounds to 972 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:32,880 Speaker 2: me like you are a great mom and you have 973 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,719 Speaker 2: a great partner who's also a great dad. So well done. 974 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 4: Thanks, thank you, that's really nice. 975 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:38,799 Speaker 1: Thank you for spending some time with us. 976 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 4: Loved it, didn't I didn't know. I actually really love 977 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:42,000 Speaker 4: hanging out. 978 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,920 Speaker 1: With you guys. Thank you. Any chat about calm I'm 979 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:44,279 Speaker 1: all about. 980 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,760 Speaker 4: I was a bit nervous, like, yeah, it's weird walking 981 00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 4: into someone else's dynamic, but I think we've really got 982 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 4: a long guy's I think just if you want to 983 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 4: analyze how this. 984 00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:00,080 Speaker 3: Went, if you can come back anytime, you lie, I 985 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,439 Speaker 3: can't come back, was like, can I come back? 986 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 4: It's also so fun to have permission to speak freely 987 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 4: about parenting because you know, when you are at a 988 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,480 Speaker 4: party and you there's people who aren't parents, and then 989 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,560 Speaker 4: you are having a parenting chat and someone, a non 990 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 4: parenting person comes over and you're so yeah, you're so 991 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,680 Speaker 4: self conscious about how boring you're being. This podcast is 992 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:25,800 Speaker 4: really boring. 993 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,959 Speaker 2: Non parents yea. And you can see someone just like. 994 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:36,560 Speaker 3: Slowly, we've a lot of non parent listeners, though not 995 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,800 Speaker 3: like some people are like, oh, it's my favorite podcast. 996 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:39,360 Speaker 2: I have kids. 997 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:46,279 Speaker 1: Man, well you're weird. Love you, Thank you again. 998 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 4: No, thanks a lot and and goodbye and at a point, 999 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:59,879 Speaker 4: thanks guys, thank you. 1000 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 1: Fun fact, we've had two guests that. 1001 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 3: Have appeared on Cony Now in this podcast. 1002 00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:05,920 Speaker 2: Don't tell me who the other person was. 1003 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,239 Speaker 1: Who was it was? 1004 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 3: It is Nick Cody, Nick Cody and Becky Lucas, which 1005 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,240 Speaker 3: is great for Australian comedy. 1006 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 2: Both absolutely hairy, both absolutely hilarious. And if you found 1007 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 2: Becky hilarious, anythink maybe I want to go see her 1008 00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 2: stand up. We have great news. You can see her 1009 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 2: touring a new show. Things have changed, but the essence 1010 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,400 Speaker 2: remains all around the country. Tickets can be found in 1011 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 2: the show notes. 1012 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 3: That's that's an amazing name for a show. I will 1013 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:41,760 Speaker 3: just say. 1014 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,399 Speaker 2: That I like it very deep, yes, mysterious. 1015 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: Now, if you're listening, get out there and supporting you mum. 1016 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 3: Let me help her get back to work back on stage. 1017 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,719 Speaker 2: And if you've enjoyed this episode, help us say it work. 1018 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 1: Just help us please. 1019 00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 2: You can subscribe, review, give us a few stars for 1020 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 2: you comments on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or follow us on 1021 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,680 Speaker 2: social media TikTok, Instagram and Facebook. We have a group 1022 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,719 Speaker 2: there as well. And if there's any guests that you 1023 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 2: would like us to interview, moms or dads, anyone you 1024 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,920 Speaker 2: may find interesting or hilarious, let us know. 1025 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:14,359 Speaker 1: Until next time. 1026 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 5: Bye. 1027 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 2: Two Doting Dads podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country 1028 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:30,279 Speaker 2: throughout Australia and the connections to land, see and community. 1029 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,040 Speaker 3: We pay our respects to their elders past and present 1030 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 3: and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torrestraight Islander 1031 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 3: peoples today