WEBVTT - UNDER THE INFLUENCE: Abbie Chatfield 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:04.360 I was waiting for this, for this question. I was 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:06.560 asking it, and I'm so shocked because I am like 0:00:06.600 --> 0:00:08.840 this sex villain and no one's asking a vagina question. 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:12.399 Yes, it was funny, like I could draw everyone to 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:13.280 Jina in that house. 0:00:14.360 --> 0:00:17.880 I think the hardest part was the omission of any 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:21.759 actual conversation the Matt and I had, because I would 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:25.759 have liked for me to watch those conversations back, just 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:26.520 be sitting there. 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:27.880 And being like, if I want to fuck you, which 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:28.760 I happened obviously. 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:31.240 I wanted to fuck him. Imagine a two due to 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:34.840 the guide, And I'm like, is it wasn't friends. 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:38.400 I don't like, I don't know, I like, I like 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:39.639 you have. 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:42.280 People were saying, you're fake, you're a bit, you're dumb, 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:45.360 you're fat, you're ugly, you're you're a snake. 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:47.040 You just you do believe it. 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:50.240 I kind of realize that when the media movement started 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:52.080 and my friends and I all have read, I just 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:52.760 assumed that. 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:54.320 Everyone's been sexually assaulted. 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:57.760 Everyone that I know has been between groats and a 0:00:57.840 --> 0:00:59.960 pub and right, which is a horror. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.880 Will think so out loud, but I just believe every story. 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:10.479 Hello and welcome to a very special episode of Outspoken, our. 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:11.880 Under the Influence series. 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:15.040 Today, we sat down with Abby Chatfield from The Bachelor 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:17.240 to find out more about the twenty four year old 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:20.280 runner up. What we discovered was a strong woman with 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:23.399 even stronger views who's so much more in the one 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:26.920 dimensional sex craze villain Bachelor producers portrayed her to be. 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:30.800 While the podcast is full of fun Bachelor goss, we 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:33.440 must warn listeners we do touch on matters relating to 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:36.759 mental health, which could be confronting. If you are struggling, 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:42.560 please contact Lifeline. On thirteen eleven fourteen. Thank you so 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:45.200 much for joining us on Outspoken. Sophie and I of 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:48.200 course were glue to this year's Bachelor, and although you 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:50.840 are probably the breakout contested on the show, I feel 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:52.760 like there's so much we still don't know about you. 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:55.760 Hey, thanks for having me. Yeah, I feel like there's 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:56.440 a lot more. 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:59.200 But I think with every Instagram rand people are finding 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:00.280 out more about me. 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:02.080 That is so true. 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:04.360 Well, what do you do as a job, because there's 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:06.320 a bit of confusion and so far my mind. I 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:09.639 read that you were Will ten described you as an analyst, 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:11.920 but then I also read that you work in sales 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:12.560 and marketing. 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:14.040 Yes. 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:16.359 So when I was on the show, I was a 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:20.640 property analyst, so I worked in hotels, Like I worked 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:23.519 for a real estate agency that sold hotels and bars 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.680 and restaurants and stuff, and I kind of did numbers 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:27.040 for them. 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:29.680 Oh yeah, because I have a degree in property economics. 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:32.200 And then when I got off the show, I quit 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:35.079 there and I just got a job that was literally 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:36.800 like because my other job was kind of like that, 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:38.480 you know, like a nine to nine rather than a 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:39.160 nine to five. 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:41.960 Yeah, the job. 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:43.360 That I got is a pay rise and is a 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:46.320 literally like ninety five. Like, I don't have any extra stress, 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:47.800 so after the show, I just need. 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:48.320 To have like a breather. 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:50.800 So I'm still in property, but I just kind of 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:54.520 took a job that was much mentally easier because I 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:55.640 just couldn't handle the stress. 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.200 What's it like being on a show like The Bachelor 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:01.240 and then I suppose everybody at work seeing I supposely 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:03.720 making out on you know, on the show and all 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:06.080 that kind of stuff, hearing about your personality weird? 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:09.359 Well, not really, because the thing is I work in property, 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:11.480 so a lot of the people that I work with 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:13.880 are like middle aged men, So they don't watch it, 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.120 think they don't care, and like they're like like they'll 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:19.600 make jokes about like, oh, we saw you passion Passion 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:20.840 that astro because it was bloke. 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:25.320 But that's about it. Like people and the girls who work. 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:27.560 In the office just kind of want gossip and they're like, 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:29.519 do you get to keep the dresses? So that's kind 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:30.920 of it. Isn't that weird? 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:32.800 I think I'm pretty lucky in the demographic that I 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:34.920 work with. They just kind of like, no one cares 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:38.640 about your stupid show. Can you please just do work? Well? 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:41.600 Yeah, well, I used to work as an online content 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:44.280 producer at a radio station in Adelaide. 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:46.760 And Ali from you know, Bachelorette Ali. 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:49.400 Actually used to work there, and I felt so sorry 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:52.400 for her because all like we had older men that 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:54.680 would work there and they'd hear little rumors that had 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:57.000 gone on, and they'd ask at these really insensitive comments 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:57.800 questions because I. 0:03:57.840 --> 0:03:59.800 Knew nothing about it. But it's like, oh, why. 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:00.960 Do you know to go on there to get a 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:03.400 bloke like you're good looking, and they're like, you don't 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:05.440 get it, You just don't get it. 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:08.360 I had everyone thought that I had won in the 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:09.200 office because I was. 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:12.240 Gone for obviously the full three months, so everyone in 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:14.320 my life, he wasn't like my close friends or my 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:16.120 family thought that i'd want. Some of the guys would 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:18.440 send me just photos of Matt randomly. I would be like, 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:20.640 here's a boyfriend. And I'd just been like crying in 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:21.760 the bathroom about him. 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:25.200 And I asked there and laugh and I'm like, haha, 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:26.640 that's my boyfriend. 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:30.240 And delving back a little bit further, can you tell 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:32.520 us about what life was like growing up and how 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:34.640 your childhood shake the woman that you are today. 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:37.320 So we're going from question to question. Now were crying 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:41.760 in the bathroom to what was your childhood? We're going deep. 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:46.200 Here, girl. Yeah, so I grew up with the Gold Coast. 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:47.680 I had a single mom. 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:49.240 It was just my mum, my sister, and I And 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:52.040 when I was born. My dad left when I was 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:52.760 like a. 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:53.920 Few months old. 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:57.479 And yeah, so I grew up with the Gold Coast 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:00.320 and we moved to Brisbane and I was like eight 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:04.200 and then my mum met her second husband and I 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.479 can't really talk about it because of there was a 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:10.680 court case about it, and basically something's happened financially and 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:14.000 that caused me to have three jobs in grade twelve. 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:16.279 I was working from when I was like thirteen. Then 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:17.320 I had three jobs. 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:20.080 In year twelve, and I my literally my sleeping pattern 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:24.160 was like controlled off, like no dos and then having. 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:26.040 Rest of its. So it was like I would take 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:27.200 a rest of it to sleep and then have a 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:28.000 nose to wake up. 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:30.520 Because I was working until eleven pm every night, they 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:33.200 get like an hour bus ride home and then doing 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:35.320 school the next day. I missed out on so many 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:38.880 social events because I was always working to like help 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:42.120 mom and be able to survive basically, and all my 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:43.760 friends were private school. 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:45.920 You know. I went to a private school. 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:47.640 So everyone has money, and everyone goes on holidays every 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:50.880 September holidays, and everyone's you know, going to study, and. 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:51.760 I never got to do that. 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:53.919 So when I got off with a Bachelor, I was 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.359 sort of like, well, I've never got to do anything 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:59.719 for me, and the only reasons why I wouldn't do 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:03.040 it well because of financial issues or because of disappointing 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:07.000 my job or something like leaving mum for three months. 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:09.880 So I kind of that's kind of how that shaped 0:06:09.880 --> 0:06:12.479 me into doing the Bachelor, which is really weird, but 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:14.040 that was my thought process at the time. 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:16.280 So The Bachelor was almost like your schoolies. 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:20.640 You're like, I did have the schoolies with schools is 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:21.680 pretty horrendous, wasn't it. 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:22.599 Did you guys go to school? 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.400 Well, we actually didn't go to schoolies because I was like, oh, 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:27.280 it's a good weekend to not be with a bunch 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:28.359 of dickheads from school. 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:31.160 That sounds terrible, but yeah, you made you made the 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:32.960 right decision. I got a knife throat in my head 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:34.360 at the school, so I feel like. 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:36.320 God, I was like, you got to tell us, how 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:37.479 did that? How did it come to that? 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:40.479 So I didn't really When I was in high school, 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:42.640 I didn't really drink or like do anything naughty because 0:06:42.640 --> 0:06:44.240 I was working all the time, so I don't really 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:47.120 had this like party vibe. But then by school is 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:50.359 obviously everyone's having everyone's getting drunk, and I was pretty sober, 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:53.919 and all the boys in it that we were friends 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:56.280 with were kind of a bit naughty, and they'd kind 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:58.520 of started to try to do drugs and stuff, I think, 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:01.840 And so this is where every time too ping it. 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:05.400 Oh yeah, schools on. 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:06.480 The Gold Coasters. Next level. 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:08.640 We're from Adelaide and that school is at Victor Harbor, 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:10.480 which is like an sort of tide. 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:14.040 Yeah, anyway, sorry, continue. 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:16.520 I mean I wouldn't recommend any of it, let's be honest. 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:19.520 But and then he, I know something. I didn't want 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:21.760 him to do a bucket bong in our stink or something. 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:24.320 I was like, could you not not do a bong 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:26.520 in our stinks? And then he just threw a knife 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.240 at me, and I was like, oh the lot. And 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:30.280 then I I mean it was nowhere near me, like 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:32.600 he was very fucked, and I was like, you know what, 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:33.640 I'm going to sleep. 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:36.640 I know what, guys, you can leave it. I'm a 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:39.360 good event. So Yesculis was like a zero out of ten. 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:45.040 It almost sounds like good training for the Bachelor Mansion. 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:45.840 Do you know what I mean? 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:48.640 If you yeah, I mean, I don't know was anyone 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:51.640 throwing knives there or was it just insults everyone was throwing. 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:53.640 Yeah, no, I'll send it a few bucket bongs, but. 0:07:53.640 --> 0:08:00.360 I don't think that. No, there was a Bachelor mansion. God, no, 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:01.360 can you imagine? 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:04.920 Well we did hear there was a rather controversial what 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:06.960 would you call at a party going on in the villa. 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:10.440 It was a vagina viewing party that did that happen. 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:14.600 I was waiting for this one, and I'm so shocked 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:16.560 because I am like this sex villain and no one's 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:17.680 asking the vagina question. 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:21.520 Yeah, what the hell. So, like, obviously you go a little. 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:24.000 Bit crazy in the house, and when you're sitting in 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:26.560 a house with twenty other women and you're like, you 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:29.680 end up talking about vaginas. It's a big sleepover for 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:33.600 three months, and I think we'd all had two glasses 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:35.920 of wine because it only allowed two glasses of wine 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:40.800 per night when you're really yeah, so like they keep 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:43.400 everything really under control, but that means you are massive 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:46.040 lightweight by there, like massive light weight. 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:47.600 So we were all just a little. 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:50.160 Bit drunk, and I think we were just talking about 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:52.480 vaginas and we're like, with that majority you have, like 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:54.880 we're in luck year ten. And then we were like, 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:57.520 you know what, let's just show each other. And like 0:08:57.600 --> 0:08:59.480 the thing is, we'd all seen each other naked before 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:02.800 because we share showers, we share bathrooms. But I think 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:05.600 this was like a like a ceremony, like an initiation, 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:07.200 and because the new girls have just. 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:09.040 Come, so I think that was like our way of bonding. 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.280 But yeah, it happens. It happened. 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:16.520 It was funny, like I could draw everyone'sagina in woll. 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:17.720 I was gonna say, because that's so true that I 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:19.640 do feel like when you get around girls. 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:20.640 I don't know, it does always. 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:22.800 I don't know why, but I've had conversations like that 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:25.160 with friends. Because there was I saw this amazing docco 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:27.079 and it was talking about how there's I think it's 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:31.760 like ten different types of vaginas, which yeah, it's crazy. 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:33.960 So it was what we made. We made the mind 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:35.720 to get up like a little you know that diagramma. 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:37.600 It's like twenty seven vaginas and I think it's gonna 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:39.240 test Mainian Museum or something. 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:41.040 Yeah, that one. 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:42.200 There's like the Wolf. 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:44.360 There was like some really odd ones like the Wolf, 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:46.280 and like, I just love the names they've come up 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:48.480 with for them, like who picks that? I feel like 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:50.240 a man's come up with the names because they're not 0:09:50.280 --> 0:09:51.800 really amazing. 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:55.679 No woman is sitting around categorizing vaginas. 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:59.640 Definitely man using something trendy. 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:03.200 Talking about relations in relationships in the house, did it 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:06.360 shock you when Bacco and Rachel came out in the 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:08.920 press kissing. I love that you've gone from Vagina questions 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:12.199 to asking me, was I was trying to segue into. 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:19.319 That lesbian seg Yeah, So I mean I questioned the 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:20.280 validity of that. 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:22.000 Yeah, I don't. 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:27.360 I don't think that is legit as far as I 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:28.840 know it could be. 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:31.000 But I think, to be honest, a bit of gay baiting. 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:34.960 Well with me, no, it wasn't. 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:37.400 Well when you see those photos of them come out 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:40.520 and they're clearly sitting in the front of a restaurant kissing, 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:43.320 I mean really, I mean they're not. 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:46.000 Getting the yet no offense. They weren't. You know, there 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:47.560 were no Abby's from the Bachelor. 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:49.920 They weren't the standouts of the Bachelor's, so they're not 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:51.280 going to be I don't think peraps are going to 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:53.240 be following them around on the off chance they're kissing 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:55.319 at a restaurant, to be honest. 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:59.439 I mean yeah, And like Sydney, Sydney is like crazy 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:01.880 for perhaps like in Brisbane, I don't I have one 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:04.079 that follows me. But like in Sydney, I literally was 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:06.160 getting uber eachs and someone was taking photos of me 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:07.240 and I had no shoes on. 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:09.600 I saw that I was so hungover and I've been. 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:11.880 Vomiting all morning and I was sitting outside with no 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:14.319 shoes on in Pop's point, waiting for uber eats. 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:14.880 Wow. 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.880 But like, I think it's just it's just queer baiting, 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:22.440 and I feel like it makes relationships the do come 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:24.360 out of The Bachelor that are the same sex. 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:26.440 It kind of like I legitimizes them. 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:28.840 So I don't it makes you feel a bit icky. 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:30.680 It could be legit. It could have been legit, but 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:32.840 as far as I'm aware, I haven't. They even told 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.040 me that it's not legit. But I don't think it is. 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:37.480 Oh, that's interesting to hear that, because that was my 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:38.920 exact thought. 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.679 Well, in the past, we've seen women like Kira Maguire 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:44.840 be so blatantly cast as the villain. So before the 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:46.920 show air, did you have any inkling that you were 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:48.839 going to be cast as this season's villain? 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:50.400 No, like, no idea. 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:54.160 It's so funny because they put they put Chelsea and 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:55.920 I as the antithesis of each other. 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:59.559 She is the angel and I am miss like devil whore, 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:00.640 and Chelsea. 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:02.080 And I were really really good friends and we were 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:04.679 like I was by the end like ChEls Eleanor and 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:07.520 I were like the closest by like top six. We 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:10.480 were the ones who were the closest trio, And it's 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:12.959 just it's really funny looking back because by the end, 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:14.800 at the start, I had a really hard time with 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:16.880 the girls in the house. But I thought my edit 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:18.920 was going to be like this, like sook because I 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:21.559 cried every single day. I cried every single interview, every 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:24.000 single boxy Wow, I was like a mess. 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.000 I like tried to leave so many times. 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:30.240 I was like fuck this, Like I was so emotionally exhausted, 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:34.319 and then this like weird, this villain edit was so 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:38.000 it was so strange because obviously what Matt and I 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:41.520 had from my perspective was legitimate, so it was upsetting. 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:46.000 I think the hardest part was the omission of any 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:49.920 actual conversation the Matten I had, because I would have 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:54.680 liked for me to watch those conversations back, just me 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:56.400 sitting there and being like I want to fuck you. 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:57.040 Which happened. 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:00.520 Obviously I wanted to fuck him, but like, there were 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:03.720 other conversations we had about feminism and about indigenous suicide 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:05.719 rates that aren't included. 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:08.400 And then there's every conversation. 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:09.600 I had with him is me like biting my lips 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:12.360 because I have big lips to get dry in Sydney's winter, 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:16.520 like Jesus cry so fake and I'm like, I have 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:17.080 dry lips. 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:19.840 Well, it's pretty unfair though, because I don't know if 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:22.439 you heard, but Laura Byrne came out on her podcast 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:25.480 and she said that she told Maddie Jay during her 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:27.400 final date that she wanted to sit on her face 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:29.440 his face, but this was never showed. 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:30.679 How is that a fair edit? 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:33.880 Are they wanting to portray the winner in this certain 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:35.240 holier than now light? 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:37.760 Yeah? I think that. 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:42.160 I think that they had you know, I can't really 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:44.640 say much from some of the contract, but I think 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:49.040 they had a certain narrative they wanted to put me in. 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:52.920 And that's fine. I mean, at the end of the day, 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:55.200 I can't change the edit. I know what actually happened, 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:57.760 and the girls know what actually happened in the house 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:01.360 and Matt knows, so in't really be too upset. I 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:04.800 think what was more worrying wasn't really you know, like 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:06.960 there's a TV show being made. You're aware of that 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:09.640 going in, But it was like the reaction of the 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:11.760 public and how vicious and brutal they got with me. 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:13.959 And the thing is when you watch the When you 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:17.160 watch the season back, my publicist said to me every week. 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.960 He was like, you don't say anything negative to anyone 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:22.560 or about anyone ever if you watch it back. The 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:25.000 only thing I ever said it was negative was when 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:28.120 I called Ellie disgusting because she had to get about. 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:30.720 Me behind my back, and I was like, I was angry, 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:32.600 Yeah it was. That was an hour after it happened. 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:35.480 I was angry. But other than that, I was always 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:36.440 the one being gained up on. 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:40.880 I was always one being basically essentially bullied in that house. 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:46.640 And then to watch it back and have different music 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:49.680 could over. When I slip a glass of wine. Then 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:51.840 ever like, wow, she is a bit because I slip 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:56.240 a glass of wine and effects. It's crazy. It's crazy 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:58.920 that how people's perceptions are changed. 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:00.000 And sorry, I'm going on ten. 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:02.640 But no, it's so interesting. 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:06.720 From one week to another. I noticed that my music change. 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:10.920 So from my Top five dates to hometowns, my music 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:14.960 changed from Snake Snake, Snake, Snake Snake to I got 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:18.960 kind of whitey music at hometowns because my family were 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:20.680 great for the hometown was great. 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:24.320 And on episode on the Top five. 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:27.240 Day episode, I was getting like death threats abused, and 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:30.240 then the next day when it was hometowns, I was 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:33.160 literally getting people being like, you know, you aren't that bad. Actually, 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.680 I've not changed anything about the way I speak or 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.000 anything about what I do. 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:39.760 It's purely just this music. 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:45.680 People are really easily manipulated by sound effects, which I 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:46.320 didn't realize. 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:47.800 Do you know what shocks me? Every year? 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:49.880 Because when I sit down and watch The Bachelor and 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:53.520 The Bachelorette, I almost feel like in most households, it's 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:55.160 almost a sport to watch the show. 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:56.480 You know, you don't take. 0:15:56.360 --> 0:15:59.680 It too seriously. I personally know that everything's been edited 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:02.720 and it hasn't anybody seen. Unreal like the people that 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:04.920 are sending you hate comments and death threats. I feel 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:07.040 like saying, you know, it's all a load of shit, 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:09.160 don't you This is just purely for our entertainment. How 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:11.080 are we living in a society where people are thinking 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.680 how low do you go to go and actually contact 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:17.680 someone and say these hate field like I can't even imagine. 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:21.360 You know, you've come home heartbroken, obviously people don't know 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:23.440 that at the time, but then you're copying. 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:25.080 All these awful hate field messages. 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:27.400 What do you think was there a point where there 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:30.520 was just one that kind of that you remember really well? 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:32.440 Or I mean, have you received so many that were 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:33.080 just awful? 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:37.400 So we actually have a Google Drive folder with all 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:41.040 of them in it. Oh wow, that my what all 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:41.760 of them? The ones? 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:45.640 About halfway through, my really good friend took control of 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:49.280 my Instagram and she I was like, if you find 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:51.360 any really bad ones, just screenshot them and put them 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:54.640 in a drop box so that I can use them 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:58.720 for something later on, because I can't handle them right now, 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:01.000 but I will use them later on to like do 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:03.560 without a bullying because I was getting so many a day, 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:05.399