WEBVTT - ELIMINATED QUEENS Week 3 - RUPAUL'S DRAG RACE DOWN UNDER - Reality TV Contestants

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 3>This chat, I'm joined by two queens from RuPaul's Drag

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<v Speaker 3>Race down Under season three. We have this week's eliminated contestants,

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<v Speaker 3>Ivanna Drink and the most talked about queen from this

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<v Speaker 3>series so far, due to that very scary moment where

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<v Speaker 3>she fainted in front of Rupe. Paul we have Ivory Glaze.

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<v Speaker 3>Ivory Glaze brings beauty and glamor to the stage with

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<v Speaker 3>a love of fashion. Her looks are always very polished

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<v Speaker 3>while always pushing a lot of boundaries. By day, she

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<v Speaker 3>works at a bank, but that doesn't hold her back

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<v Speaker 3>at night when she gets her drag on. Avana Drink,

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<v Speaker 3>you may know, has an iconic IMDb credit before doing

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<v Speaker 3>Rue Paul's that of the role of hooker Number two

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<v Speaker 3>on Netflix Cowboy Bebop, but now is ready to update

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<v Speaker 3>her IMDb to include the credit of the infamous Rue Girl.

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<v Speaker 3>Havannah is often found at Kluozy Cabaret as a resident

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<v Speaker 3>MC and showgirl. Also widely known the fact that Ivana

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<v Speaker 3>is one half of the Ultimate Drag Power couple. She

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<v Speaker 3>is married to Anita Wigglett from season one. I will

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<v Speaker 3>find out what really happened after Ivory fainted and what

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<v Speaker 3>the drag community of the world has been saying to

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<v Speaker 3>her online. Avanna Drink will talk about that latex, how

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<v Speaker 3>she prepared, and which catwoman was her true inspiration. We

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<v Speaker 3>will discuss everything from the pressures of the competition, the

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<v Speaker 3>highs and the lows, plus who nearly took on Jackie

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<v Speaker 3>Gillies from the Real Housewives Melbourne for this season Snatch Game, Plus,

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<v Speaker 3>we will get plenty of exclusives from behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 3>of RuPaul's Drag Race down Under, which is now available

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<v Speaker 3>to watch on Stann Australia. Anyway, let's bring Ivory into

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<v Speaker 3>the podcast first and stick around for Havana, who will

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<v Speaker 3>be popping in straight after. So I hope you guys

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy this special look at RuPaul's Drag Race down Under

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<v Speaker 3>season three. Have you been having fun chatting to everyone?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's been a lot of fun. It's been really nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know what It's so bizarre that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you've had this experience where your moment, which is like

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<v Speaker 3>broken rup whole's sort of history, has happened a week ago,

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<v Speaker 3>so you would have had a lot of people already

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<v Speaker 3>interacting with you about that whole experience. Has that been strange?

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<v Speaker 2>It's been strange.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I kind of knew that was going to happen,

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<v Speaker 4>to be honest, like I was expecting it. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>expecting it to be received so well. I thought people

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<v Speaker 4>were just going to, like, you know, hate on it,

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<v Speaker 4>but people seem to really enjoy it. So I'm very

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<v Speaker 4>happy for the I'm happy for the love.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm feeling it.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually thought, when I watched it, are people going

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<v Speaker 3>to debate as to whether or not the fainting was real?

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<v Speaker 2>And did they?

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I want to know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>A few people were like, oh my god, like this

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<v Speaker 4>is such an attention grab blah blah blah blah blah. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>I learned how to restrict comments and that patients online.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't see that anymore. I deceive that love.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so bizarre, though, because like, if you watch that,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe it's the edit of it, but there's no way

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<v Speaker 3>that that was faked because the look on your face.

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<v Speaker 3>It only happens for like maybe three seconds, but I've

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<v Speaker 3>seen someone faint before, and that's exactly that look that

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<v Speaker 3>comes over your face, and you can't faint that, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>No, And like I mean, obviously you can't see it

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<v Speaker 4>on camera. But I was wrenched in sweat. I like

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<v Speaker 4>woke up in like this big cold sweat, and that's

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<v Speaker 4>why I asked to go outside because I needed to

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<v Speaker 4>like get air.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I was drippen. I was strippen.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't remember what series of housewives it was. But

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<v Speaker 3>there was a Housewives season where someone fainted, Oh, Lisa

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<v Speaker 3>vander Pump, she fainted during Dancing with the Stars and

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<v Speaker 3>it was so clearly faked that she got literally everyone

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<v Speaker 3>coming for her. And I was like, yeah, but you

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<v Speaker 3>clearly faked that. Where with this it was like it

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<v Speaker 3>felt authentic to me.

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<v Speaker 4>So I imagine if I was like, nah, it was fake.

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<v Speaker 4>I did it for TV. I got the screen time.

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<v Speaker 4>Can you imagine can you.

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<v Speaker 3>Imagine if we're talking about it now in this podcast,

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<v Speaker 3>but like, you know, now's the time to just reveal that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm an attention seeker and.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it worked.

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<v Speaker 3>I spoke to like a few different queens from different

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<v Speaker 3>seasons from season one and season two, and all of

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<v Speaker 3>them were like they'd heard about it, like through the

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<v Speaker 3>Great Front because obviously this is the drag Race gazette

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<v Speaker 3>or something, but yeah, all the feedback that had been

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<v Speaker 3>given to them was that you know that this this

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<v Speaker 3>moment had happened. And I guess that's the last thing

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<v Speaker 3>you want when you're on RuPaul's drag Race is to

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<v Speaker 3>have something like that happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, of course.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's like another thing and when people are like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you faked it. I'm like, do you really think I

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<v Speaker 4>would want to embarrass myself in front of RuPaul like that?

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<v Speaker 4>Like the shear like horror on my face when I

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<v Speaker 4>like look up and Rue is like staring at me,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, oh my god, what just happened?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, get me out of this room. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't be here.

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<v Speaker 3>But how long was it until they got you back? Like,

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<v Speaker 3>as in, so did you have any like when Rue

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<v Speaker 3>decided to open episode three with the lip sync? Like,

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<v Speaker 3>how much time did you have to prepare for that? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>It was the next morning. We like lip synced at

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<v Speaker 2>like eight in the morning.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah. Did you feel like coming back at that point?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you go, oh, I'm going to get this or

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<v Speaker 3>did you think that you were being brought back to

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<v Speaker 3>finish that story off? Like how much did you think

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<v Speaker 3>that that was going to be your final moment?

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<v Speaker 4>To be honest, On the day that I passed out,

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<v Speaker 4>I did get to go to my hotel room early,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like in my fields a lot, and

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<v Speaker 4>I was chatting with the show therapist and I was

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<v Speaker 4>kind of like, honestly, I'm so embarrassed, Like I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to go back, like this is like ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to come home.

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<v Speaker 4>But she managed to like ask, She asked if I

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to speak to someone for my season to kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like see if that's really what I want to do,

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<v Speaker 4>because you know, when someone's just done something that they're

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<v Speaker 4>going to be a bit you know, skitzy. So I

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<v Speaker 4>had someone come over in the evening and we chatted

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<v Speaker 4>about it, and I was like, okay, you know what,

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<v Speaker 4>like you're right, like, let me just go and do it.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, if I go home, I go home.

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<v Speaker 2>If I don't go home, then I don't go home.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, like at least I haven't had any regrets

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<v Speaker 4>and I don't have any, like I don't you don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to quit, but like I can understand when queens

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<v Speaker 4>do quit because it is a lot going on. But

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<v Speaker 4>I'm glad that I came back. I did it, and

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<v Speaker 4>the rest is history.

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<v Speaker 3>I was talking to a few international queens as well

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<v Speaker 3>about it who's seen it, and they were also saying

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<v Speaker 3>everyone who's been on that show has had that split

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<v Speaker 3>second thought of that could happen to them during their

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<v Speaker 3>time on the show, that oh god, what happens if

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<v Speaker 3>I faint. So it's something that's so big. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know even though if you understand the gravitas of that,

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<v Speaker 3>but you've kind of like made such an impact on

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<v Speaker 3>that show because of all of these other people that

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<v Speaker 3>have done it before are like that could have been me.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's been a little bit here and there from

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<v Speaker 4>some girls like sharing it on Twitter and stuff, being

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<v Speaker 4>like this, I can absolutely understand this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is like very real, which is good.

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<v Speaker 4>It's kind of like not validating, but you know, it

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<v Speaker 4>helps my cause to say that it was genuine to

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<v Speaker 4>start with. But it also kind of like highlights you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like it's a tough, tough competition, it's a tough, tough time,

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<v Speaker 4>and you kind of have a bit more. I guess

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<v Speaker 4>it puts into perspective to people that may not understand

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<v Speaker 4>how intense it is to be there, and it kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like elucidates that, you know, it brings it to

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<v Speaker 4>light to people that like this is like really serious

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<v Speaker 4>to these people and like they're under a lot. So

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<v Speaker 4>hopefully maybe people cut other queens some slack in the future.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how much do it mean to you

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<v Speaker 3>to get on the show, Like.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, like I was at a crossroads in

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<v Speaker 4>my life, right. So I've been working at the bank

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<v Speaker 4>for five six years almost, and I was kind of

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<v Speaker 4>due to find a new career.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not like crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>It's very hard to be a full time drag queen,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's very hard to do it without an opportunity

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<v Speaker 4>like Drag Grace to be a full time drag queen.

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<v Speaker 2>So I applied for the show with.

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<v Speaker 4>A bit of encouragement from one of the season two girls,

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<v Speaker 4>and I got on and I was like, this is it.

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<v Speaker 4>This is like the point of my life where I

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<v Speaker 4>can take control and do things my way and what

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<v Speaker 4>I want to do. And it was so important for

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<v Speaker 4>me to like be there and you can see it

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<v Speaker 4>in episode one, and I'm so emotional. It's because I've

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<v Speaker 4>put so much like like this is what i want

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<v Speaker 4>to do, this is my dream, and I'm like screwing

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<v Speaker 4>it up right now, And you know, if you go

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<v Speaker 4>home early. Typically like not saying it will happen, but

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's typical that they don't do as well outside,

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<v Speaker 4>Like how I go in this competition will define how

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<v Speaker 4>I be as a drag queen for the rest of

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<v Speaker 4>my life, which is not true in hindsight, but that's

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<v Speaker 4>kind of like it was. It was so important for

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<v Speaker 4>me to like do well, and I just put so

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<v Speaker 4>much like I'm so excited and happy and like I

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<v Speaker 4>can finally do this. Then you know, things turn out

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<v Speaker 4>the way they turn.

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<v Speaker 2>Out for reason. But yeah, do I answer your question?

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<v Speaker 2>I can remember the question.

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<v Speaker 3>So you did. I don't know. I got lost in

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<v Speaker 3>it as well, because I think you really do have

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<v Speaker 3>an interesting story with this, and you know what I

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<v Speaker 3>want to say to you though from what this show,

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<v Speaker 3>but also for commenting on reality TV for as long

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<v Speaker 3>as I have it isn't who wins the show that

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<v Speaker 3>gets the big career. You know, there's people that have

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<v Speaker 3>been on this show who've been in two episodes that

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<v Speaker 3>I have superseded sometimes the winner in that season. So

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<v Speaker 3>this is really a jumping off point and it's up

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<v Speaker 3>to you as to what story you want to tell,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, after this experience, and.

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<v Speaker 4>To answer that question. That was kind of a question,

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<v Speaker 4>but I'm going to turn it into a question anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>The story I want to tell is if you fall down,

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<v Speaker 4>pick yourself back up. It's not the end of the world.

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<v Speaker 4>If you really want to do this, just fucking do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Give it your best shot, and you know you don't

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<v Speaker 4>know what can come out of anything, so things cross

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<v Speaker 4>it all goes well, I'm going to give it a

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<v Speaker 4>red hot go. But yeah, you're totally right, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>what you do with a lot of people will say this,

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<v Speaker 4>they'll say, it's not how you do on the show,

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<v Speaker 4>it's what you do after the show. And so as

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<v Speaker 4>long as you've got your head screwed on and you

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<v Speaker 4>know what you're doing and you're having a nice time

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<v Speaker 4>of being lovely to everyone, you should be able to

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<v Speaker 4>be all right.

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<v Speaker 3>You just smissed out on the Housewives Challenge, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was curious to ask you about that. You know, who's

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<v Speaker 3>your favorite housewife in the housewife franchise? It sounds like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm obsessed with thatx This is the second time I

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<v Speaker 3>brought it up. But you know who is your favorite

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<v Speaker 3>housewife and who would have been your inspiration?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>I really enjoyed Real Housewives of Melbourne, So I watched

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<v Speaker 4>that all a few times and actually on fact for

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<v Speaker 4>the season two audition because I was just doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it was lockdown and you know, you want to

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<v Speaker 2>just do something in drag for the season two audition.

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<v Speaker 2>I did Jackie.

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<v Speaker 4>Jackie Gillis, that's my Snatch Game character, so I definitely

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<v Speaker 4>would have been her and the challenge, like you know

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<v Speaker 4>when she's like I can see something with the angels

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<v Speaker 4>and she just like yes, shine shy and shy and

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<v Speaker 4>you just like flash everyone on the thing that I

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<v Speaker 4>was so ready that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, knowing Jackie as well as I do, she'll hit

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<v Speaker 3>you up. She'll definitely slide into your d MS about

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<v Speaker 3>that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Jackie, I'll tell you this.

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<v Speaker 4>I nearly took you for a Snatch Game this year,

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<v Speaker 4>and I know you have a deep pop and I

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<v Speaker 4>was about to buy one of your dresses to wear

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<v Speaker 4>for the Snatch game on Deep so like I was ready.

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<v Speaker 3>I was ready, My god, oh my god. That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to ask you about the This is Ruphols

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<v Speaker 3>down Under. So we're getting the Australian and we're getting

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<v Speaker 3>the New Zealand Queens together. Do you notice or do

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<v Speaker 3>you recognize the difference in the styles of drags between

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<v Speaker 3>those two countries.

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<v Speaker 4>We're quite similar. I think it's a pretty common trend.

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<v Speaker 4>I will say maybe, oh, I'm going to get in.

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<v Speaker 2>Trouble for this.

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<v Speaker 3>That's great, that's good for my podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, good, here's the use for you now. No, I

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<v Speaker 4>will say maybe New Zealand drag is a little less

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<v Speaker 4>polished typically than down on the Drag, But I also

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<v Speaker 4>think that correlates to the amount that they get paid

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<v Speaker 4>for their gigs, and like they don't get paid as

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<v Speaker 4>much over there than they do in Sydney.

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<v Speaker 2>For instance.

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<v Speaker 4>So you can only invest as much as you make, right, Well,

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<v Speaker 4>that's like the rule of some girls, don't fucking spend

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<v Speaker 4>more than you make.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you hear about that last week? Those someone can't

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<v Speaker 3>remember where you Obviously you might have Google alerts. I've

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<v Speaker 3>got Google alerts on all of Rupoul's. But someone had

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<v Speaker 3>spent two hundred and fifty thousand dollars on outfits before

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<v Speaker 3>doing the American series. Did you read that?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I'm on Twitter babes as though it before it

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<v Speaker 4>even broke out on Google. Yes, I did. I did

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<v Speaker 4>read that, and I think that is insane. But they're

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<v Speaker 4>going to look beautiful.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know how much am I allowed to ask

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<v Speaker 3>you about this without looking in your bank account? How

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<v Speaker 3>much money you spent before doing the show?

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<v Speaker 2>I spent around eighteen thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, I think you did such a great job on

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<v Speaker 3>the show. And everyone that joins the podcast asked them

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<v Speaker 3>this question, and that is what's something from behind the scenes,

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<v Speaker 3>something that we didn't get a chance to see, something

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<v Speaker 3>from may not necessarily to reveal how the show is made,

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<v Speaker 3>but just a funny story about what it was like

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<v Speaker 3>to be on ru Poles for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually have a fun story. I do have a

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<v Speaker 2>fun story.

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<v Speaker 4>So on one of the first days of filming, we

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<v Speaker 4>get transported from the hotel to set via like a

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<v Speaker 4>minivan and usually like this a pa or like someone

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<v Speaker 4>quite knew that's doing that sort of job. Anyway, So

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<v Speaker 4>one day, instead of parking out the front like they

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<v Speaker 4>normally did, they want to go into the garage of

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<v Speaker 4>the hotel to park. And I don't know what had happened,

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<v Speaker 4>but they had crashed the van into the roof of

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<v Speaker 4>the hotel garage.

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<v Speaker 2>And then so all ten of us are there in

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<v Speaker 2>this van, like, oh my god, what just happened? Added

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<v Speaker 2>the funniest like, oh, sorry, girls, I think we might

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<v Speaker 2>have hit something.

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<v Speaker 4>We were like glasses falling from the ceiling, Like I

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<v Speaker 4>think you hit something.

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<v Speaker 2>But getting out of here.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's that was a funny moment that obviously was

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<v Speaker 4>not going to be shown on camera.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm pretty sure the rupol's got insurance, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it would have been coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's fine, it's covered.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a great time chatting with the media about this season,

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<v Speaker 3>and I can't wait to watch what you do with

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<v Speaker 3>this whole experience. I think there's there's a lot waiting

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<v Speaker 3>for you, so just enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much. It was so nice chatting with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting to unpack the fainting with Ivory. I really did

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<v Speaker 3>appreciate her telling us about her journey with that. But

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<v Speaker 3>now let's welcome Evana Drink into the podcast and guys,

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<v Speaker 3>I hope you enjoy this second part of the chat.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a podcast, but people really need to see

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<v Speaker 3>how good you look right now, Like you look phenomenal.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you say that again so everyone really gets the gist.

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<v Speaker 1>I look phenomenal. I'll say it.

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<v Speaker 3>Buy the T shirt. It's the inspiration though for your

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<v Speaker 3>look today. It's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really honest. I'm wearing sweetpants and this leotard is

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<v Speaker 1>like a good thing to wear because I can pull

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<v Speaker 1>the sweetpants above. It was just the easiest thing to wear.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, you're so good. Can I just say

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<v Speaker 3>it was so funny. I was watching this episode, but

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<v Speaker 3>I turned to my partner and I was like, I

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<v Speaker 3>am obsessed with this catwoman look. Thank you? Did you

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<v Speaker 3>prepare that catwoman look before going into the competition? Like,

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<v Speaker 3>how did you get that much latex together?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I actually found a really fabulous latex designer based

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<v Speaker 1>in LA And when I was preparing for the show.

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<v Speaker 1>We obviously don't get given runways until a bit further along,

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<v Speaker 1>but after you been cast, and so I really like

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<v Speaker 1>to I plan ahead because we're in New Zealand and Australia,

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<v Speaker 1>like things take forever to get here. I reached out

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<v Speaker 1>to a lot of designers beforehand, and I was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of planning my looks and I was like, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to make every look quite different, Like I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be wearing similar silhouettes or similar patterns or similar designers,

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<v Speaker 1>because I want to kind of explore the different fashion

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm a corporate drag queen at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day. Like a lot of the stuff I wear

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<v Speaker 1>was very sequins and Bangkok Thailand kind of stuff, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's what the straight audiences love anyway, I knew I

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<v Speaker 1>really wanted to have something made from Latex. So I

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<v Speaker 1>reached out to Jane earlier before I even got the runways,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, I want you to work with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where what it will be. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know when I will be able to tell you what

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<v Speaker 1>it is, but I know that I really want you

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<v Speaker 1>to make it rest me. And she was like, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>like let me know, and like and that's where it

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<v Speaker 1>came from. I was like Latex like Villains, bad Girls, Catwoman,

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<v Speaker 1>black Latex, how sixy and how fabulous? You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not I never want anything like it. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is immediately pres eight.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so good, but also your performance, Like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know how much you know about the character, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm obsessed with Catwoman.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing I like the most about this particular outfit

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was very conservative, but at the same

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<v Speaker 1>time so sixy and so I really wanted to honor

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle Fife as Catwoman were as opposed to like Ann

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<v Speaker 1>half Away's or Halle Berry's, who are both great in

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<v Speaker 1>the role. But you know, like it was just that

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<v Speaker 1>particular vibe funnily enough, like I knew what I looked

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<v Speaker 1>like in their outfit, and I really wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>as sixy as a possibly ki, But I moved like

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<v Speaker 1>that normally That's how I do shows. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like me as Catwoman, as me doing a

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<v Speaker 1>show to Adam Lambert's I need a hear.

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<v Speaker 3>People are going to think I'm so strange for saying this,

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<v Speaker 3>but like I could see Batman, the animated series Catwoman,

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<v Speaker 3>I could see Julie Numar, I could see all of

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<v Speaker 3>these other Catwoman performances. So maybe I've read too far

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<v Speaker 3>into it and maybe just laughed.

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<v Speaker 1>About what I actually like. I grew up watching those shows,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like the Batman, the Batman cartoon, and I

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<v Speaker 1>always gravitated towards the female and the feminine characters.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, probably because I'm a big homo, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just I just loved Like we would play Tick. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you ever played the game Tick, and

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<v Speaker 1>I would always choose the female characters because they were

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite, and I honestly, in my mind, they were

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<v Speaker 1>the most powerful ones. Like if you wanted to beat

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<v Speaker 1>someone up, you would go for like memal Christie, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just like energy I love and you know I

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<v Speaker 1>sit in it into you earlier that the best part

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<v Speaker 1>about Dragon what inspires me is that feminine energy. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the feminine form, it's it's the hourglass figure. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's every single part about what makes a woman a woman,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter if you were born one or not, if

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<v Speaker 1>y I is what I like to incorporate in my drag.

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<v Speaker 3>When you're doing the lip sync, though, did you have

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<v Speaker 3>any idea as to who's going home? Because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we've obviously watched this show for an extraordinary long time,

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<v Speaker 3>and you always think, do the queens know? Can they

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<v Speaker 3>feel it in their bones? Who's going to stay and

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<v Speaker 3>who's going to go?

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<v Speaker 1>No, you can't. And you know it's such a situation

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<v Speaker 1>because you watch it at home and you go, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're aware of what's going on around them, blah blah blah. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you what that lip sync was like

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<v Speaker 1>because I just blacked out. Like you know, when you

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<v Speaker 1>go through trauma like a car crash or you break something,

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<v Speaker 1>and you kind of forget the moments around that particular trauma.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like that, Like I was so in

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<v Speaker 1>the moment. I don't remember Adam Lander. I I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even think I even saw the judges when I was

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<v Speaker 1>doing this performance.

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<v Speaker 2>I was doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just doing it for myself. I think I

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<v Speaker 1>looked at the cameras most of all. But no, I

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<v Speaker 1>honestly can't take anything. I don't even know what Reader

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<v Speaker 1>had done during netlip sync, or even what I did

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<v Speaker 1>in the end as well, because it's just all a

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<v Speaker 1>blur to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you just get the one shot like I always

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<v Speaker 3>feel like you able to do it twice? Or do

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<v Speaker 3>they do any pickups or anything, or it's just literally

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<v Speaker 3>that thirty seconds or however long it is and you

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<v Speaker 3>just got to Gopher broke.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a minute and a half I think, or

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<v Speaker 1>a minute something like that they do.

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<v Speaker 3>It feels like thirty seconds to me. It feels so stressful.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, it's like in the moment, it's the longest song

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<v Speaker 1>you're ever do in your life. But then you watch

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<v Speaker 1>listen to Oh this is actually so short, And I

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<v Speaker 1>was so lucky to have like this, I know this song,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was so happy that I didn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>spend a lot of iff it trying to learn the lyrics.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so this is so bizarre, But like throughout the show,

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<v Speaker 3>you were saying, I wish people could see me for

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<v Speaker 3>this version of yourself that you didn't feel like you

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<v Speaker 3>were presenting to the camera. I'm talking to you right now,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm seeing a very different person like I'm you

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<v Speaker 3>are much more confident, Who're so engaging, You're so well spoken,

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<v Speaker 3>so articulate. What happens to your mind when you put

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<v Speaker 3>the pressure on yourself to be on a show as

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<v Speaker 3>iconic as this.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what it was, you know, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>went into the show knowing everyone knows who I'm married to,

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<v Speaker 1>and she did well, she did well second season, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's that's just the way the cookie crumbles

0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:50.000
<v Speaker 1>everyone and I knew how loved she was, and I

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<v Speaker 1>felt there was a lot of pressure on me to

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<v Speaker 1>to not compete, but you know, be on the same level.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of it was also coming to myself with

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<v Speaker 1>my own person because I knew that Peop would be

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<v Speaker 1>like as automatically Asso sit me to be married to Anita,

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, obviously there's nothing wrong with that because

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<v Speaker 1>I chose to do it, but at one point, you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be your own person, you want to be

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<v Speaker 1>taken taken on for who you are, but also having

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<v Speaker 1>that in mind, and it kind of just was like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of different clashing thoughts and different ideals of

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<v Speaker 1>what I wanted to do or how I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>portray myself and kind of also at the same time

0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:25.000
<v Speaker 1>build a brand with myself. And you're doing all of

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<v Speaker 1>this well in front of through fucking Paul. You know,

0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:30.280
<v Speaker 1>there's just like a lot there's a lot of pressure

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<v Speaker 1>in that situation, and when it's all you're thinking about

0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:36.960
<v Speaker 1>because you're so immersed in this world and this environment

0:20:37.080 --> 0:20:39.440
<v Speaker 1>that it's kind of all there is to think about,

0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:41.640
<v Speaker 1>so you kind of overthink things and then and then

0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:43.520
<v Speaker 1>you kind of you know, they always say you're in

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<v Speaker 1>a sebate, and it's true. You really do have one,

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<v Speaker 1>and it comes and it fucks things.

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<v Speaker 3>Up so bizarre because like you know, just watching you today,

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<v Speaker 3>like it's the version that you were talking about in

0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:57.480
<v Speaker 3>that episode where you're like, I wish they could see this,

0:20:57.760 --> 0:21:01.280
<v Speaker 3>and everyone agreed. You know, sometimes when you watch someone

0:21:01.320 --> 0:21:03.320
<v Speaker 3>say something on reality TV, they're like, oh, I wish

0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:05.880
<v Speaker 3>I was this because I'm that everyone looked at you.

0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:09.360
<v Speaker 3>Everyone was like, yes, yes, you are that person. Why

0:21:09.440 --> 0:21:12.000
<v Speaker 3>aren't you bringing this? What is going on exactly?

0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:15.080
<v Speaker 1>I was in that workroom every day, making everyone laugh,

0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:17.880
<v Speaker 1>the cast and the crew and like having a laugh

0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:20.320
<v Speaker 1>with everyone. Like when I left, there was a cameraman

0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:23.480
<v Speaker 1>who saying Chaz and for some reason, he would always

0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:25.879
<v Speaker 1>be around when I was getting undressed, and so we

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<v Speaker 1>had this running joke that Chairs was a pervert and

0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:29.639
<v Speaker 1>he just wanted to see me naked all the time.

0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:32.040
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, oh, Chairs, when I'm gone, You're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be able to like to pervot anybody

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<v Speaker 1>else now, and he was like oh, and it was sad.

0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:40.080
<v Speaker 1>It was funny. I went to Melbourne after filming ended

0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:42.680
<v Speaker 1>and before we were all announced, and I was able

0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:46.800
<v Speaker 1>to connect up like hang out with Gab and Ash

0:21:46.840 --> 0:21:49.960
<v Speaker 1>from the show. And it's so funny because Ash said

0:21:50.000 --> 0:21:52.560
<v Speaker 1>to me, She's like, oh, you do sound different when

0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:54.040
<v Speaker 1>you're in drag And I was like, yeah, this is

0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:56.600
<v Speaker 1>like really who I am? Like I talk so different,

0:21:56.760 --> 0:21:59.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm so high energy, I don't have an inside voice.

0:21:59.840 --> 0:22:03.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm constantly yelling, and so I was like, okay, well

0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:04.919
<v Speaker 1>this is this is who I am, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>now I've grown, I've learned, and if you've ever seen

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<v Speaker 1>it on an All Stars and hint, this is what

0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:10.880
<v Speaker 1>you'll see.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like, for me, you're a no brainer if

0:22:14.320 --> 0:22:16.560
<v Speaker 3>there was an All Stars, because I feel like, if

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<v Speaker 3>they do it, they're going to bring you with Anita,

0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:21.920
<v Speaker 3>so we can watch that because we love we love

0:22:21.960 --> 0:22:24.120
<v Speaker 3>reality TV, we love being a fly on the wall.

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<v Speaker 3>But I just feel like, you know, we would love

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<v Speaker 3>to watch the dynamics of a married couple being on

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<v Speaker 3>the show and seeing how you both interact, if it's

0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:33.920
<v Speaker 3>if it's toxic, if it's lovely, if it's you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine stand original series behind the lashes I've.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean for it. You don't understand, I'm so do

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<v Speaker 3>you don't how many questions I have for you about

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<v Speaker 3>the whole thing. I'm like, I wondered whether or not

0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:47.960
<v Speaker 3>you know you being in a relationship with Anita was

0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:50.400
<v Speaker 3>a good or a bad thing for your story because

0:22:50.680 --> 0:22:53.760
<v Speaker 3>you are your own person. I don't necessarily think my

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<v Speaker 3>relationship defines me, so I don't necessarily believe that your

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<v Speaker 3>relationship with Anita to finds you either, And I wondered

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<v Speaker 3>how much of that impacted your time on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think it was a no brainer for me,

0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:09.199
<v Speaker 1>for me when I went to knowing that, you know,

0:23:09.240 --> 0:23:12.520
<v Speaker 1>the fans love Anita and they love these types of storylines.

0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:15.919
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's the drag the drag Race factors, first

0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:19.760
<v Speaker 1>married couple to compete on a drag race franchise, and

0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:21.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, I knew that there was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of love and an interest in that because

0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:26.800
<v Speaker 1>it's not it's not something you see every day. But

0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:28.480
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, like we we're married

0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:31.359
<v Speaker 1>obviously who I mentioned a lot. Everyone knows about this

0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:34.040
<v Speaker 1>by now, and we are who we are. We like

0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:35.800
<v Speaker 1>we compliment each other. I think we do, and I

0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:38.040
<v Speaker 1>think he would say the same. We compliment each other

0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:40.639
<v Speaker 1>and you know, like we we we we're a couple

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<v Speaker 1>that really base our values on being kind, being courteous,

0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:48.600
<v Speaker 1>and being professional. And I think in a way, being

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<v Speaker 1>able to show who I was with the pressure behind

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<v Speaker 1>me of being Anita's husband was you know, it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was tough. Like I'm not gonna say that it

0:23:57.760 --> 0:24:00.480
<v Speaker 1>wasn't because it's hard. You know, you're or you being

0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:02.960
<v Speaker 1>compared to someone. It's like like a brother or a sister,

0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:05.720
<v Speaker 1>and they actually like, quite, they're better than you. Well

0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:07.320
<v Speaker 1>that's what you think. They're better than you. They do

0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:09.359
<v Speaker 1>sports better or whatever. You're like, you're always going to

0:24:09.440 --> 0:24:12.480
<v Speaker 1>be that person's brother, that person's sister, and it's the

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:15.879
<v Speaker 1>same in this situation. I'm always going to be Anita's husband,

0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:19.080
<v Speaker 1>and I think reversed. I was seeing that the satur Day.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually she won't be known as Alana's husband. You know,

0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:26.720
<v Speaker 1>she got that fear chance to show who she was.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a hard dynamic. It's a really hard dynamic because

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<v Speaker 3>I genuinely believe you are so strong and that you

0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:34.600
<v Speaker 3>would have been picked to do the show without any

0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:36.320
<v Speaker 3>connection to her whatsoever.

0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:38.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so. I think I was. I was.

0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:41.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, my audition video versions for the show was

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<v Speaker 1>very much who I am today.

0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:43.480
<v Speaker 3>You know. It was.

0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:45.760
<v Speaker 1>It was lively, it was fun, it was energitic, and

0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:46.800
<v Speaker 1>that's why Rue chose me.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, is there a formula though? That's what I

0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:51.399
<v Speaker 3>want to know? Like it see, because you're married to

0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:54.080
<v Speaker 3>somebody who got on the show, who successfully applied and

0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:56.360
<v Speaker 3>got on, and then I think, you know that might

0:24:56.400 --> 0:24:58.439
<v Speaker 3>have been the advice that Anita was able to give you.

0:24:58.560 --> 0:25:00.280
<v Speaker 3>Is this is what you need to say, this is

0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:01.720
<v Speaker 3>what you need to do to get on the show.

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:03.200
<v Speaker 3>Were you able to lean into some.

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<v Speaker 1>Of that, No, not necessarily, Like she did help me

0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:08.439
<v Speaker 1>with the with the filming and process, and she kind

0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:10.639
<v Speaker 1>of guided me on like different aspects of it, like

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:13.680
<v Speaker 1>you maybe have more energy here, maybe say this differently,

0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:16.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe do that. But it wasn't like don't say this,

0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:18.399
<v Speaker 1>you should say like this because then they'll want you on.

0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:21.520
<v Speaker 1>It was definitely my audition tape. I would release it.

0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if I'm allowed to. I don't think

0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I am, but I would release it because it's wwa

0:25:26.000 --> 0:25:28.280
<v Speaker 1>ii am you know, like everything I said on that video,

0:25:28.600 --> 0:25:30.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't regret. There was no it was. I was

0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:33.359
<v Speaker 1>representing myself and that's that was a big take. That

0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:35.240
<v Speaker 1>was a big thing I wanted to do when I

0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:37.119
<v Speaker 1>went on to the show, was I'm not going to

0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:39.399
<v Speaker 1>say things I wouldn't say in real life. I'm not

0:25:39.480 --> 0:25:41.800
<v Speaker 1>going to add to drama just for the sake of

0:25:41.840 --> 0:25:44.000
<v Speaker 1>adding to drama. I'm there to represent who I am

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:45.600
<v Speaker 1>because at the end of the day, people are going

0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:47.520
<v Speaker 1>to watch and be like, oh, what a bird she was,

0:25:47.920 --> 0:25:49.320
<v Speaker 1>and that's not who I am like, I don't want

0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:50.720
<v Speaker 1>people to meet me in real life and be like, wow,

0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:52.600
<v Speaker 1>you're not actually as bitch as you were on the show,

0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:55.040
<v Speaker 1>because that doesn't do me a service.

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<v Speaker 3>No, and that does happen though, like is in so

0:25:57.720 --> 0:26:00.000
<v Speaker 3>much of your control gets taken away from you because

0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:04.120
<v Speaker 3>the narrative of putting that whole show together sometimes means

0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:07.000
<v Speaker 3>that we do seem to have a certain lick of

0:26:07.040 --> 0:26:09.879
<v Speaker 3>the character that they're interested in putting forward. You know

0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:12.120
<v Speaker 3>what I mean. I have so many questions. I literally

0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:13.320
<v Speaker 3>could talk to you for all day, but I'm just

0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:16.440
<v Speaker 3>going to go with some quick ones snatch game. Who

0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 3>was it going to be?

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying because I want to do it on

0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:19.639
<v Speaker 1>All Stars.

0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:24.800
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so when you went home, who did you think

0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:26.639
<v Speaker 3>was going to wear? Not what you know now, but

0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:29.080
<v Speaker 3>like coming out at that point, who did you think

0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:30.360
<v Speaker 3>was going to take the competition out?

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:32.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't think we're about to answer this question.

0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:34.480
<v Speaker 3>I guess the best thing to ask you is my

0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:37.000
<v Speaker 3>last question, which is that I ask everyone who joins

0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:39.240
<v Speaker 3>the podcast, and that is what is something from behind

0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:41.280
<v Speaker 3>the scenes that you can share with us, kind of

0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:42.920
<v Speaker 3>like maybe a funny anecdote.

0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:45.159
<v Speaker 1>I has so many of these little things. I've got two.

0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:48.359
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you two, okay, right, I love it. I

0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:52.480
<v Speaker 1>actually have a scar on my nipple because of the

0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:56.520
<v Speaker 1>mic peck burnt me and it was such a soft

0:26:56.640 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 1>heat that it kind of just like was on all

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:01.880
<v Speaker 1>day and without move So I've got a scar right

0:27:01.960 --> 0:27:04.720
<v Speaker 1>underneath it. Now you'll see in the second episode if

0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:06.800
<v Speaker 1>you look at when I'm getting out of drag or yeah,

0:27:06.800 --> 0:27:10.040
<v Speaker 1>I think out of drag, you'll see a plaster just

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:13.760
<v Speaker 1>below my nipple that's from that a bit of yi.

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:16.680
<v Speaker 1>I made the mic so feel so sad.

0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:20.720
<v Speaker 3>After that, so funny. If people don't talk about this,

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:23.359
<v Speaker 3>but you know, when you're miked up on a reality show,

0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:25.919
<v Speaker 3>it's such a weird experience when you're not. I remember,

0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:28.760
<v Speaker 3>like after Big Brother, for a good two weeks, I

0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:32.240
<v Speaker 3>kept thinking that my mic pack was still on. Like

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:34.600
<v Speaker 3>I remember putting my seatbelt on in the cur and

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 3>re arranged how I put the seatbot on because I

0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 3>thought I had a mic pack still on. And my

0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:42.119
<v Speaker 3>partner was like, oh my god, you're so deranged after

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:42.600
<v Speaker 3>doing this.

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:45.199
<v Speaker 1>Honestly, you could become such a thing, right, Like I

0:27:45.240 --> 0:27:47.160
<v Speaker 1>literally would go up to him his name was Lars,

0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:49.080
<v Speaker 1>and I'd be like that, and he would put it

0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:50.919
<v Speaker 1>on for those of you listening, and my hands are

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 1>up in the air. He would put it on and

0:27:53.840 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like cool, thank you, and then you do

0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 1>the shake shape shake, and then you need to count,

0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:00.320
<v Speaker 1>and then it'd be like, yeah, we can hear and cough,

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:02.199
<v Speaker 1>and that would be it. It wouldn't even be like a

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 1>thing I'd ever think about the design challenge. I didn't

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:08.800
<v Speaker 1>make the edit, which sucks, but me and Floor had

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:11.280
<v Speaker 1>just kind of like literally just lost ourselves. We were

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:13.880
<v Speaker 1>so tired and were so over it, and we would

0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:16.640
<v Speaker 1>We were on the floor literally rolling around for maybe

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:19.919
<v Speaker 1>an hour and a half just laughing about everything like

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:23.479
<v Speaker 1>her dress, my dress, my zip, calling ubers to take

0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:26.399
<v Speaker 1>us home because we were done, and it was just

0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 1>so fun. That was my That was my favorite memory

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:29.200
<v Speaker 1>of the show.

0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:31.360
<v Speaker 3>All Right, I'm gonna let you go, but I'm I'm

0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 3>just good luck with it all. I just think you're

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:34.919
<v Speaker 3>so fantastic. I'll be in your audience.

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, nice to me. You've been