Speaker 1: Welcome to you. Waitne say nothing yet. In the movie podcast,
Speaker 1: we're our chut to a movie lover about a classical
Speaker 1: beloved movie they haven't quite got around to watching until now.
Speaker 1: And today's guest comedian ray O Leary.
Speaker 2: All below. I want to stay here with you, the jobble,
Speaker 2: Why hate snake shucked? Why?
Speaker 3: Ray?
Speaker 1: They wouldn't happening right now? You ain't seen nothing new.
Speaker 1: Today's guest ray Leary is a comedy juggernaut on the rise,
Speaker 1: The Juggernaut Rise Up. Maybe I've stuffed that up already,
Speaker 1: but anyway, ray O Leary is absolutely delight the watch.
Speaker 1: He's been seducing an audience with his appearance on have
Speaker 1: You Been Paying Attention? He's a Kiwi and Keywi's listening
Speaker 1: well know He's written for seven Days. He's appeared on
Speaker 1: Seven Days Guy Montgomery's Guy Mont's Spelling Bee, which is
Speaker 1: an excellent show on the ABC in Australia at the
Speaker 1: moment and also over in New Zealand Patriot Brains. He's
Speaker 1: been in more recently Thank God You're Here, where it
Speaker 1: was quite brilliant for the cheap seats. He is on
Speaker 1: all the TV shows right now. He's easy to catch.
Speaker 1: He's everywhere. He came over to New Zealand. I would
Speaker 1: say he's been in four or five years. Time is
Speaker 1: a tricky thing post COVID, but I would put it
Speaker 1: at about four or five years. He's done a series
Speaker 1: of Task Master in New Zealand. He's on tour at
Speaker 1: the moment. He's one of my favorite Suan names all time.
Speaker 1: I think your laughter is only making me stronger. I
Speaker 1: saw the show in Brisbane. We were doing back to
Speaker 1: back shows. I was on first and Ray mentioned he
Speaker 1: was coming on to my show and I said, well, snap,
Speaker 1: I want to come along to yours. Yeah, I love
Speaker 1: this show. Hopefully he enjoyed mine, but I love this show.
Speaker 1: We had to be here afterwards. He was excited about
Speaker 1: heading off to Edinburgh, and I believe that's gone really
Speaker 1: well for Hi. If you won the Best Newcomer at
Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen Wealth and Comedy Awards, He's nominated for
Speaker 1: the prestigious Billy Tea Award twenty seventeen. He studied philosophy.
Speaker 1: He's funny, he's kind and I'm bloody stoked he'd be
Speaker 1: hanging with him today.
Speaker 4: Hello, my name is Ray Leary. My three favorite films
Speaker 4: are the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3: Dear mister Burne. We accept the fact that we had
Speaker 3: to sacrifice a whole Saturday and detention for whatever it
Speaker 3: was we did wrong, But we think you're crazy to
Speaker 3: make us write an essay telling you who we think
Speaker 3: we are. Can you see us as you want to
Speaker 3: see us? In the simplest terms were the most convenient definitions,
Speaker 3: But what we found out is that each one of
Speaker 3: us is a breen and an athlete and a basket case,
Speaker 3: a process and a criminal. Does that answer your question? Sincerely, yours,
Speaker 3: Breakfast Club.
Speaker 4: Toy Story three.
Speaker 1: Al Right, guys, we got one shot at this.
Speaker 5: Everyone ready, Ready, let's do it.
Speaker 2: Make the call.
Speaker 6: Target is on approach, just like we rehearsed it. Guys,
Speaker 6: Hello and Jojo Rabbit looking.
Speaker 1: Fetching as usually.
Speaker 2: Wow, it's because of you.
Speaker 1: My son can't walk properly and has a messed up face.
Speaker 3: Still yeah, yeah, So you are going to look after
Speaker 3: him while I'm at work.
Speaker 1: Make sure he has a job and feels included. Got it?
Speaker 1: Got it? Really, Cotton?
Speaker 4: And up until this week, I've never seen the French
Speaker 4: film Amiie.
Speaker 1: Oh so French Armie lives in montmart Paris, well in
Speaker 1: the much cleaner, romantic, idealistic montmart Paris, which may or
Speaker 1: may not exist largely in our protagonist's head. An only
Speaker 1: child who lost her mother under tragic, hilarious circumstances, her
Speaker 1: father keeps her at arms distance, leading to a misdiagnosis
Speaker 1: of a heart condition. As news breaks of Princess Diana's death,
Speaker 1: Armiie discovers a tin box containing a nostalgic treasure trove
Speaker 1: kept within the wall of her apartment. Armiie decides to
Speaker 1: track down the owner of this tin box to test
Speaker 1: her abilities as a guardian angel of sorts. Bursting in
Speaker 1: the cinemas in two thousand and one, the world fell
Speaker 1: in love with not only the character of Armillie, but
Speaker 1: also the sooux fle of a film coming off He's
Speaker 1: Not Awesome Hollywood Experience in Alien Resurrection French icon Jean
Speaker 1: Pierre Jeannette Delicatessen, City of Lost Children, returns home chuck,
Speaker 1: full of ideas and inspiration, and seems to relish the
Speaker 1: freedoms his hometown affords him. Nominated for five Oscars, written
Speaker 1: by Guellam Laurent and Jean Pierre Jeannet, Everything About Amie
Speaker 1: is stylish, romantic and nostalgic. Ray O Leary, question, how
Speaker 1: many people do you think right now are having all orgasms?
Speaker 1: Ballpark Figure, World Park Figure.
Speaker 4: It's it's crazy how romantic the film makes that question,
Speaker 4: see which it's on the roof that tries to evesdrop
Speaker 4: on everyone having six of the sea.
Speaker 1: And I would be surprised if, at any time of
Speaker 1: day in Paris, if you'd asked that question, if fifteen
Speaker 1: was a genuine answer, I feel like fifteen hundred at
Speaker 1: the minimum would be the case. It would be the case,
Speaker 1: ray O Lary, thank you so much for joining us on.
Speaker 1: You ain't seen nothing yet.
Speaker 4: No, no, thank you so much for having me. Peter,
Speaker 4: hell are you?
Speaker 1: And for those who are only listening, which is basically
Speaker 1: how we do this podcast. We sometimes I have some
Speaker 1: clips You're in the suit and I was wondering. I
Speaker 1: was almost excited. I saw you hiking in Edinburgh with
Speaker 1: Melanie Bracewell in a casual outfit. Yes, you are addressed
Speaker 1: for success.
Speaker 4: You've got the character, to Ray Larry, mel she gets
Speaker 4: to see the real behind the suit. You see just
Speaker 4: an artifice, a stage persona.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to catch up with Melon the next time.
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you what's he like?
Speaker 4: He drops the voice, he speaks normally, no accent Scottish.
Speaker 1: It's a mate. Yes, thank you for coming.
Speaker 4: No no, no, thank you for having me. I think
Speaker 4: I've seen this to you before. But it's a genuine
Speaker 4: honor because you know, growing up in New Zealand, I
Speaker 4: used to watch you know Rove live and so you know,
Speaker 4: what she knew was a sort of you know, a
Speaker 4: big influence on my on my comedy. You know, you've
Speaker 4: got a lot to answer for it. You've ruined my life.
Speaker 1: We did do a gig recently, well back to back gigs.
Speaker 1: We shows in Brisbane at the Powerhouse. Had fun. I
Speaker 1: loved your show. Oh thank you, thank congratulations on all
Speaker 1: the touring and you've been this guy back from Edinburgh.
Speaker 4: Yes, no, thank you, thank you in congrats to you
Speaker 4: as well. You've obviously you've I know, last time I spoke,
Speaker 4: you were going to Sydney and around New South Wales.
Speaker 1: Wrapped up the tour for now and off to treat
Speaker 1: the boards in the theater. Her oh her in a
Speaker 1: Starcatcher Disney production. Tickets on sale now. Myself Colin Lane,
Speaker 1: it's a cracker against a.
Speaker 4: Cracker, but yes, no, thank you, thank you, sort of
Speaker 4: an elder statesman of comedy.
Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate I appreciate that rogue. It's funny because
Speaker 1: Rove Live was so kind of big in a weird way.
Speaker 1: I've had to explain it to a couple of people
Speaker 1: over here, because it was big on a street around
Speaker 1: for ten years here, and it was a big show here,
Speaker 1: but there was something else going on with it in
Speaker 1: New Zealand. I went over there road to come back
Speaker 1: from doing a promotional tour and he almost like the
Speaker 1: blood of drained from his face. How was it? He goes,
Speaker 1: they really love it. I love it. They love it
Speaker 1: kind of hard, you know. And I went over there
Speaker 1: not long after that, and I kind of saw it.
Speaker 1: It was just it was on a Friday night over there,
Speaker 1: so I often went up against the Rugby League and
Speaker 1: often beat the Rugby League on a Friday night, and
Speaker 1: I would literally walk around this and I was doing
Speaker 1: some shows over there as well. I remember hearing people
Speaker 1: say tonight, I'm going home to watch live and they
Speaker 1: didn't know I was in airshot. It was just kind
Speaker 1: of weirdly not necessarily weirdly, but it was a big
Speaker 1: show over there.
Speaker 4: But was it I mean I'm trying to you know,
Speaker 4: cast my memory back, but was it. I mean, it
Speaker 4: can't have been that like Australia specific. There was like
Speaker 4: you had international guests and things like that.
Speaker 1: Big international guests, and we didn't sketches. It wasn't, you know,
Speaker 1: and we often crossed to Australian suburbs and stuff, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't. It wasn't. We weren't trying to make it Australian.
Speaker 1: And I think once we're on New Zealand and once
Speaker 1: you know, we did respect that idea. And I think
Speaker 1: occasionally we would cross in New Zealand or we would
Speaker 1: have a New Zealand flavor and there as well.
Speaker 4: Yes, like I remember, you know, Hamish and Andy would
Speaker 4: have a segment. I remember Carry Bichmore would do than News.
Speaker 4: I remember I still remember a monologue that Road did
Speaker 4: about emojis. I think that was that was the new
Speaker 4: thing emos.
Speaker 1: You talk about. I mean it's crazy. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: what it's great about comedy. Comedy becomes a time capsule,
Speaker 1: you know, you can I mean I still remember writing
Speaker 1: an SMS joke when it was it's pretty edgy, right,
Speaker 1: but let's Amilee, I'm fascinated. I thought, why not. You know,
Speaker 1: it's one of the most romantic films ever made, and
Speaker 1: I thought who better to get along to talk about
Speaker 1: this film and that the lover boy himself. Now, I
Speaker 1: sent you the list, as I do with most of
Speaker 1: my guests, and you came back with a few. I
Speaker 1: think the Manchurian Canada that was there, which has been
Speaker 1: nominated a few times recently. We haven't quite got to it.
Speaker 4: Sliding Doors was enough.
Speaker 1: Sliding, which I thought, okay, Sliding Doors or Armie, And
Speaker 1: basically we haven't covered a lot of foreign language films,
Speaker 1: so I thought Armie might be a good place. But
Speaker 1: what do you know about Armie?
Speaker 4: What did I know? It's like you? So again, obviously
Speaker 4: I've never seen it, and I think I had gotten
Speaker 4: this impression that it was sort of the maybe sort
Speaker 4: of the core identity of a lot of queer key people,
Speaker 4: like especially a quirky woman. I think, like I think
Speaker 4: it was like a very And I also thought it
Speaker 4: was quite a divisive film. I thought it was like
Speaker 4: a film that you either loved it or you hated it,
Speaker 4: so I thought it, but looking at I looked at
Speaker 4: the reviews after watching, and it's basically universally beloved. But
Speaker 4: my expectation going in is it there's a good chance
Speaker 4: I could hate this, and there's a good chance I
Speaker 4: could love it. And yeah, but it felt like it
Speaker 4: had that sort of I don't know, Zoe Dishanell like,
Speaker 4: you know, that kind of vibe that she was bringing
Speaker 4: you the Manic Pixie dream girl time. Yes, And I
Speaker 4: had spoken to comedian Josh Earl in the morning before
Speaker 4: I watched it, and he was He mentioned one of
Speaker 4: the scenes to me about how the cinema scene where
Speaker 4: she turns around and watches all the people in the movies,
Speaker 4: and I was thinking, oh Christ, this.
Speaker 1: Is it too late for sliding Doors be a sliding
Speaker 1: doors moment. Well, I'm fascinated to see where we get
Speaker 1: to with Armily. But you're absolutely right, without going too
Speaker 1: far back into it, it came at a time both
Speaker 1: I think stylistically nine to eleven. Yeah, it interested to
Speaker 1: know was it release after nine to eleven. I'll see
Speaker 1: if I can find them find that out, because it
Speaker 1: would have been a film that the world craved. I
Speaker 1: think it is.
Speaker 4: It is such a kind film. It is it is
Speaker 4: that's baked into it and the we'll get to it,
Speaker 4: but the coloring and stuff it So anyway.
Speaker 1: There's so much on every level of detail with that.
Speaker 1: Let's talk your three favorite films. They're good ones. The
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club.
Speaker 4: Now, I always so whenever someone asked me what is
Speaker 4: your favorite film, I always say The Breakfast Club and
Speaker 4: then I will always give them that sentence to follow
Speaker 4: and they say, they'll say, so, what's your favorite film?
Speaker 4: And I say The Breakfast Club and then it's But
Speaker 4: I think I'm trying to think of I do really
Speaker 4: enjoy it, and I think maybe it came at a
Speaker 4: time like I watched it when I was a teenager,
Speaker 4: you know, and I think it's still felt like it
Speaker 4: translated to me, you know. I kind of love it.
Speaker 4: It's it's interesting, and maybe it has that Arma Lee
Speaker 4: kind of vibe and the sense that Armily is not
Speaker 4: how ABU did I describe it? Maybe would it be
Speaker 4: fair to say that Armi is not exactly plot driven,
Speaker 4: like it's it's.
Speaker 1: Such a simple film, Armily, And I guess what you're
Speaker 1: saying is the Breakfast Clubies is very similar with not
Speaker 1: a lot happens, but a lot happens.
Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, Yeah, And I really love that about the
Speaker 4: breakfast club or like, I you know, there's something so
Speaker 4: sweet and wholesome to it, and I almost I would.
Speaker 4: I've read about it, and there's something like I heard
Speaker 4: that maybe the scene where the jock talks about I
Speaker 4: think maybe beating up the nerds and like sellotaping their
Speaker 4: ass cheeks together or whatever. You know, there's big emotional
Speaker 4: reveal at the end. I've heard maybe that was improvised
Speaker 4: or something. I remember getting mad reading about there being
Speaker 4: sort of like this beautiful scene that I love. It
Speaker 4: was not meticulously planned, you know, a litt almost, but
Speaker 4: there's just something about I think it was watching it
Speaker 4: in that teenage state. And I mean not that I
Speaker 4: was a particular you know, I had plenty of friends.
Speaker 4: I wasn't you know, a basket case, but I you know,
Speaker 4: it wasn't like I was having this huge fight with
Speaker 4: my parents or anything like that. But it's just something
Speaker 4: I don't know, it speaks. It speaks to being a teenager,
Speaker 4: and I think I saw it at the exact right time,
Speaker 4: and I've just always loved it.
Speaker 1: I'm the same. I think it hits very differently if
Speaker 1: you watch it as a team, you know, without being
Speaker 1: too dramatic about it. When I saw it, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this film sees me, you know, an American high school,
Speaker 1: which they were quite vastly different Australian imagine New Zealand
Speaker 1: high schools.
Speaker 4: Yes, my high school was two hundred people. We didn't
Speaker 4: have enough people to have jocks and basket and princesses
Speaker 4: and stuff. It was just it was either you're kind
Speaker 4: of cool, you're kind of a loser. There was there
Speaker 4: was and even then by the end of it, you know,
Speaker 4: no one gave, you know, no one cared about all
Speaker 4: that stuff. But yeah, no, yeah, I think I get
Speaker 4: the feeling that our high schools, the Australasian high schools,
Speaker 4: are a lot less of a vicious like you know
Speaker 4: those places of the wild West.
Speaker 1: You know, absolutely, And I'm the same. I don't think
Speaker 1: I fit neatly into any of the categories. Maybe princess,
Speaker 1: I saw you put on lipstick before it was balm.
Speaker 1: It was barm o wary and that was an off
Speaker 1: air thing. So but it's funny, like Mark Anthony Hall
Speaker 1: is so funny in that, and so you know when
Speaker 1: he talks about the little lamp that he made, when
Speaker 1: what they call it would.
Speaker 4: Work or something else, the only class is failing.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, and the lamp wouldn't come on and he
Speaker 1: considered maybe killing himself. It's it's great. Judd Nelson's great.
Speaker 1: Molly Ring would have of course, and everyone's great.
Speaker 4: Yeah. The principles great, the principles. Yeah, the scene where
Speaker 4: they get high, and I love the dance they do
Speaker 4: to the you know, it's everything about it. And I
Speaker 4: think also maybe the slow reveal of I mean this
Speaker 4: is maybe it's sort of cliche filmmaking, but I loved
Speaker 4: it of Judd Nelson's character, you know, where you're like, Okay,
Speaker 4: this guy's a jerk, and the slow reveal of his
Speaker 4: home life and you're like, oh no, this guy has
Speaker 4: a real troubled background and he does have that heart
Speaker 4: of gold kind of thing. Yeah, just you know, been
Speaker 4: through so much with his dad and stuff. It's just
Speaker 4: I love that. The smoke up Johnny scene, you know,
Speaker 4: you know, you know what we got in the Bender
Speaker 4: Household for Christmas. Yeah, and he talks about having a
Speaker 4: cigarette burned into his arm or whatever happens. It's just yeah,
Speaker 4: I think it came at the right time, and we're
Speaker 4: actually very lucky that I saw that one first, because
Speaker 4: I had a very similar feeling about the film High
Speaker 4: School Musical three. So they could have seen that one first.
Speaker 4: We could have been very easily in a different conversation.
Speaker 1: I think High School Musical, and it might have been
Speaker 1: two or three. I don't think it was the original
Speaker 1: one has come up in some of his favorite films,
Speaker 1: like really, I remember who maybe m Rosciano.
Speaker 4: Yes, I mean the first one. I remember the third one.
Speaker 4: It was my final year at high school as well,
Speaker 4: and also Troy and Gabriella and the whole game they
Speaker 4: were graduating. You know, go Wildcats, Wildcats.
Speaker 1: There's a film with Goldie horn In. I would hazard
Speaker 1: a guess between maybe I would say eighty five, which
Speaker 1: was good Wildcats and they were she was the female
Speaker 1: coach of this team and she's only given the job
Speaker 1: as nobody else wanted it, and yeah, of course then
Speaker 1: succeed and good film, good eighties film, A great pick,
Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club. Let's go on to Toy Story three.
Speaker 4: Yes, a habit of trilogies with me. I think again,
Speaker 4: I just remember it being a phenomenal film when I
Speaker 4: first watched it. Maybe I've only seen it once or
Speaker 4: twice since I haven't. It's one of those films where
Speaker 4: you think it's over sort of, I mean, similar to
Speaker 4: the Shawshank Redemption, Like we think the film's ended, and
Speaker 4: then there's another, you know, another climactic scene, like I
Speaker 4: think they managed to escape the kindergarten, and you think
Speaker 4: it's over, and then they go to the dump and
Speaker 4: that I mean, this is huge spoilers for Toy Story three,
Speaker 4: but there's a scene at the end when you genuinely
Speaker 4: think all the toys are going to die. You genuinely
Speaker 4: believe in a Disney film they're about to kill off
Speaker 4: every single character, and you genuinely believe it, and then
Speaker 4: they you get say and it's just I don't know.
Speaker 4: It was again, it was that thing of you know
Speaker 4: Toy Story one and two. You know I would have
Speaker 4: watched when I was younger, and then you've aged Andy
Speaker 4: up and you know he's leaving home to go to UNI,
Speaker 4: and I was in a similar age, and so again
Speaker 4: it's you know, heading at the right time. I think
Speaker 4: an element of that and it is I don't know
Speaker 4: how you feel. It is a bit of a shame
Speaker 4: they keep releasing. I mean, I do think Swoy Story
Speaker 4: four is a good film, but there was I just
Speaker 4: felt like it was such a perfect ending, you know,
Speaker 4: and I do you do worry about it cheapening.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you who agrees with you. Oh, Quentin Tarantina.
Speaker 1: He literally has said, very similar guy, Yeah, very similar guys.
Speaker 1: Often you see Quentin in the gray suit. But he
Speaker 1: he said he hasn't even seen for and I haven't
Speaker 1: seen for. And I think subconsciously I've made the same
Speaker 1: choice where I'm like, this is a perfect trilogy of
Speaker 1: films with the perfect ending. It's not just that. I
Speaker 1: think Toy Story three and very few in a trilogy
Speaker 1: where you would say where the third film is the bear?
Speaker 1: But I think you could make that argument with Toy
Speaker 1: Story three. Why would you go back? Yes, like, I
Speaker 1: haven't seen for and I have heard it. It's fine, yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's the issue is it's fine, Yes, yes, absolutely right.
Speaker 4: It was horrible. There's something funny about it. Ever was amazing.
Speaker 4: You're like, okay, thank god they keep doing it. But
Speaker 4: it's just fine. Yeah, you know, it's just okay, so
Speaker 4: you know they're still around or whatever.
Speaker 1: There's another other franchises. I think Pixark can play with.
Speaker 1: Nobody cares if you keep making cars films, we understand,
Speaker 1: and that's one. But you know that's all Warmark connected.
Speaker 1: We understand that. But maybe Leaf Toy story. Yes alone.
Speaker 4: You say you don't know why they keep making it,
Speaker 4: but I do think there is a very simple artswer.
Speaker 1: I wonder why Disney keeps producing films, films that make
Speaker 1: a lot of money, if only we can put a
Speaker 1: finger on it.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, do you find it stressful? I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't know if you'd seen Have you seen Amily?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yes, I saw it when it came out.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, yes. I was going to say, do you
Speaker 4: find it stressful? Pecking films for people to watch.
Speaker 1: Well, it's all he's kind of done in conjunction. So
Speaker 1: I often say pick a few, hence Mentoring Canada and
Speaker 1: Sony DAWs came up for you, and there's a long list.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of films, so I've always kind of
Speaker 1: encouraged him if there's one that you really want to watch.
Speaker 1: It kind of a bit embarrassed you haven't seen us,
Speaker 1: but you know, we've done over nearly one hundred and
Speaker 1: six hundred and seventy episodes, so there's still a lot
Speaker 1: of films we haven't done yet.
Speaker 4: That list was so long, and I was shocked with
Speaker 4: how few I had seen.
Speaker 1: Some people's some people cavelis, I've seen everything, you know,
Speaker 1: but I'm not sure if he's actually seen the list.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that he won. He went straight to jug
Speaker 1: if Tony Martin the film he did, Top Gun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Tony Martin hadn't seen Top Guy. Know, he I
Speaker 4: just had Have you been with him? And like basically
Speaker 4: every time I've shared a green room with him, he
Speaker 4: talks about films. He was talking about DVDs and blu
Speaker 4: rays and like he's got.
Speaker 1: Tony Martin is on my keeping the blue ray dv
Speaker 1: industry afloat. There's no doubt about that. No, that was
Speaker 1: that was an honor to have Tony and a surprise
Speaker 1: that when he film was so per Top Gun. I know,
Speaker 1: because even as pop culturally you'd be a cross. I
Speaker 1: guess you don't have to see Top Gun to be
Speaker 1: kind of a cross. They did shows, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: No, it's just I for I Forgure, which birthday. It
Speaker 4: was a couple of years ago. I wanted I love musicals,
Speaker 4: and I went to go see the movie in the Heights.
Speaker 4: I wanted to see that film, which is a Meloel
Speaker 4: Miranda film, and I remember my friends were sitting there
Speaker 4: to watch it with me. Very nice of them, but
Speaker 4: I remember as the lights were coming down, my friend
Speaker 4: next to me said, two and a half hours when
Speaker 4: the lights came down.
Speaker 1: We had a similar experience with my wife, Bridge, who
Speaker 1: does not love sitting down for too long. We rarely
Speaker 1: will watch a movie at home together, generally if we
Speaker 1: are because we're having a very lazy Sunday, maybe we've
Speaker 1: been out at night before, or it's a rainy kind
Speaker 1: of day. It takes something like that to for her
Speaker 1: to watch it, and we rarely go to the movies
Speaker 1: even these days, so we often watch serious lots of
Speaker 1: television to get us, which weirdly you often end up
Speaker 1: sitting down for it as long you can get up
Speaker 1: once every forty five minutes and do something and then
Speaker 1: come back. But I took her to see Who's Afraid
Speaker 1: of Virginia Wolf the MTC production, because I was keen
Speaker 1: to see it. We both love cat Stewart, and I
Speaker 1: didn't know much about it. I hadn't seen the film.
Speaker 1: I've seen it for Yan from Trump. We watched it
Speaker 1: for this podcast, but really didn't know too much about
Speaker 1: I knew it was kind of set around like I
Speaker 1: thought it was like a dinner party scene, but it's
Speaker 1: a married couple anyway. And we go to take our
Speaker 1: seats and I see somebody who i'd met a couple
Speaker 1: of times before at the MCC, which is the Melbourne
Speaker 1: Cricket Club, when I've been at the Cricket of the
Speaker 1: football and she says hello, and did you said to
Speaker 1: my wife? And just as the lights go down, she goes,
Speaker 1: you know, it's three hours, it's three three intervals, and
Speaker 1: the lights of comically came down and my wife would
Speaker 1: have got been walked out it was any earlier, I
Speaker 1: think she certainly wouldn't have gone. But we were chatting
Speaker 1: about last night actually, and I said, are you happy
Speaker 1: that you went? And yeah, I really am. I said,
Speaker 1: you said, cat was amazing, But I wouldn't have never
Speaker 1: would have gone by to night. It is that long
Speaker 1: and there's two intervals, not three, but yeah.
Speaker 4: That's yes, there's a I just finished watching the show
Speaker 4: the Other Two, which is this phenomenal American comedy, and
Speaker 4: they there's an episode where they go to a play
Speaker 4: that one of their boyfriends is in it it's about AIDS,
Speaker 4: and when they get there they realize how long the
Speaker 4: film is. I think they're on the players. I think
Speaker 4: it was for about six hours or something. And they
Speaker 4: got into mission it's about the start, and then it AIDS.
Speaker 4: And then they go up and part two of the
Speaker 4: play will continue tomorrow, and everyone goes, oh. They all
Speaker 4: are obliged to keep going because the players about AIDS,
Speaker 4: and they don't. They don't want to seem disrespectful, but
Speaker 4: no one has enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: When Harry Potter was doing the Two Years, part one
Speaker 1: and part two and and and then they eventually went, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're going to merge it all into one. Let's talk
Speaker 1: You're you're a key way so they had to be
Speaker 1: Jojo Rabbit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, this one, this one is more of a
Speaker 4: wild card. This is because I should admit I think
Speaker 4: I'm similar to your wife, Like I'm not a big
Speaker 4: movie guy like I I mean, obviously you know I
Speaker 4: like movies, but it's always TV shows for me. I
Speaker 4: love TV series. It's the thing I always put on
Speaker 4: them at home and I want to watch something, and
Speaker 4: I was so I was struggling. I was trying to remember,
Speaker 4: like I've done a podcast on movies before where they
Speaker 4: asked me my top four and I was trying to remember.
Speaker 4: I was like, what did I say? Then? I definitely
Speaker 4: toy story three in Breakfast Club to come up. And
Speaker 4: I do recall saying Jojo Rabbit to them as well, I'm.
Speaker 1: Gonna go I'm gonna go down and hunt this da.
Speaker 1: It's a different answer. I'm gonna be furious, but Joe,
Speaker 1: I again that. I mean, it's the reason why it
Speaker 1: came to mind. I think is just at the time. Again,
Speaker 1: it was a film when I saw it, and it
Speaker 1: was so I guess, so powerful. I remember, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone else has seen it, but
Speaker 1: I just remember finding like some of the scenes, like
Speaker 1: when you see the red shoes and it's just so
Speaker 1: full on. I remember having a like a moment in
Speaker 1: the bathroom afterwards, being like, oh, well that was quite intense,
Speaker 1: and I think a guy recognized me in the bathroom
Speaker 1: and started talking to me. I was like, this is
Speaker 1: not the time I'm just trying to process some emotions here,
Speaker 1: Like I loved Oh, they'll get a selfie after. And
Speaker 1: obviously it's always great to see a film where Hitler's
Speaker 1: portrayed positively. It's finally, finally, not since Hitler was making
Speaker 1: those films. Girls, you're not being betrayed out positively that
Speaker 1: film on paper, and I know it was a book,
Speaker 1: but I think Tiger did take some you know, some
Speaker 1: liberties and and and his own stuff that was and
Speaker 1: I think Hitler as a character what maybe wasn't in
Speaker 1: the book. So I think I'm sorry if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: Let me let us know. On paper, it seems crazy.
Speaker 1: And the thing I really enjoyed Joe Rabber. But the
Speaker 1: thing I like it just as much is the fact
Speaker 1: that it was made that a studio went, yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: back this in.
Speaker 4: Yes we'll get a we'll get a crazy New Zealander
Speaker 4: to play a person of color, to play a Jewish
Speaker 4: guy to play Hitler, like a cartoony, fun, friendly Hitler
Speaker 4: who wants to like hang out with his little best
Speaker 4: friend and stuff. And so yeah, it is really really
Speaker 4: good this. I know there's a lot of backlash on
Speaker 4: Twitter about it. I mean again, I haven't seen the
Speaker 4: film in such you know, since it came out, so
Speaker 4: I can't speak to any specifics.
Speaker 1: But do you mean ex formally Twitter?
Speaker 4: Yes? X. Sorry so I know you're a big musk hed.
Speaker 1: Sorry. Still I still love that every time you see
Speaker 1: Twitter a report on Twitter, Yes, it's still X in
Speaker 1: brackets formally Twitter. I still don't know for a man
Speaker 1: who's supposed to be I imagine has lots of marketing
Speaker 1: money behind him in nouse the rebranding of Twitter that
Speaker 1: X makes no sense.
Speaker 4: It's so bad. No one is going x X is
Speaker 4: too common a letter. No one. No one is like,
Speaker 4: oh yeah, X, of course X. I use X all
Speaker 4: the time I've been posting on It was such a crazy,
Speaker 4: crazy decision. But also I wonder if it makes sense
Speaker 4: to like, because then it creates sort of like you're
Speaker 4: either with us or against us kind of mentality. Like
Speaker 4: I feel like Twitter's become even more, you know, divided
Speaker 4: between the left and the right, and you know, like
Speaker 4: now when you have a blue chechnique to your name,
Speaker 4: that's sort of a symbol that you're you know, you
Speaker 4: like Elon Musk or whatever you like. Certain but still
Speaker 4: in every single news report. Everyone, every journalist is like,
Speaker 4: it's silly to call it. Ever, even I think we've
Speaker 4: got to refer to.
Speaker 1: A porn side or something. There's been three or so
Speaker 1: years now at a guess you think that should be
Speaker 1: enough time for it, like not to have to have
Speaker 1: formerly Twitter. But the fact that people are still writing that,
Speaker 1: and also when you tweet something it was it seems
Speaker 1: so integrated in the name. You said that an X,
Speaker 1: I exed you, I ex you, I do exed you.
Speaker 1: What's the backlash about Joe?
Speaker 4: I think I've seen people describe the film as evil,
Speaker 4: and I suspect it's to do with the portrayal of Hitler,
Speaker 4: but I'm not super and maybe because in the actually no,
Speaker 4: maybe in the book it's worse. I think in the film,
Speaker 4: you know, he keeps the Jewish girl or the woman.
Speaker 4: I figured if she's a Jewish, the woman taking refuge
Speaker 4: at least from the Nazis is played by a New
Speaker 4: Zealander she Maybe they think there's something toxic there about
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess it is toxically. He kind of
Speaker 4: keeps it even though she doesn't need to be there.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah that or is that?
Speaker 4: Or is that me misremembering based on tweets I've seen
Speaker 4: about the book. Anyway, now my memory is all on
Speaker 4: the phone to speak to your fellow countrymen.
Speaker 1: Three great movies. I haven't seen Jojo for a while.
Speaker 1: I should go back and back into that one. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about the film we are here to talk about today.
Speaker 1: The song.
Speaker 5: What is you?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 5: The Lerida participants people.
Speaker 1: She married soon passed.
Speaker 5: So said when I leave you on Ladesh, if was
Speaker 5: to get because you put to shell? Yeah, babacky ya
Speaker 5: get well.
Speaker 1: But no need.
Speaker 5: Just in What's placed?
Speaker 1: You see a really very quick translation.
Speaker 4: Please I didn't what was she fringe?
Speaker 1: It doesn't. I'm surprised. At the end of the film,
Speaker 1: I thought, wow, this is a French film. I didn't
Speaker 1: have no idea that was Emily helping the blind man
Speaker 1: across the road and pointing everything out.
Speaker 4: I was going to guess that. I thought so based
Speaker 4: on how quickly she was speaking. This is the only
Speaker 4: and but you know, I thought French people, they began
Speaker 4: every sentence with how do you say so? So it
Speaker 4: was a real learning opportunity for me.
Speaker 1: It was always part of my French and then into it,
Speaker 1: which I have to say a lot, let's get into it.
Speaker 1: Directed by Jean Pierre Janet, Legend of French cinema from
Speaker 1: two thousand and one, starring Audrey to Tao as Amie,
Speaker 1: Paulaine Rayal Larry. Did you enjoy Amie.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry to say I did not enjoy Armale, and
Speaker 4: I feel like such a philistine for saying it. I
Speaker 4: will say I went and not expecting to enjoy it.
Speaker 4: I saw the runtime and I thought, oh Christ and
Speaker 4: then and then I put the film on and subtitles
Speaker 4: came up, and I thought, oh, I'm going to really
Speaker 4: have to lock watch it.
Speaker 1: I can't look at anything else. I was really curious
Speaker 1: watching this because I thought it's really kind of captured
Speaker 1: the imagination of the world. It's one of the biggest
Speaker 1: French films of AUTI and it kind of like cut through,
Speaker 1: nominated for five Oscars, you know, the zion work kind
Speaker 1: of works kind of on every level. But if you
Speaker 1: don't connect with that character, then you might be a
Speaker 1: bit at sea. But I was wondering because Armile is
Speaker 1: an innocent in this case like this in the tradition
Speaker 1: of a forest gunt. More recently, Emma Stone in and
Speaker 1: You your stage can. I was thinking on the way
Speaker 1: here is kind of is kind of like you play
Speaker 1: this kind of innocent who's just like, you know, making
Speaker 1: his way through the world and having these observations, you know.
Speaker 1: And I thought maybe Ray could really connect with this film.
Speaker 1: We might watch, but obviously you haven't done.
Speaker 4: I always feel opposite watching your comment, like this is
Speaker 4: quite a malicious on the line this is and he's
Speaker 4: a scrooge type of character.
Speaker 1: Well. One of the things, one of the things I
Speaker 1: do like about the character Emily is you see that
Speaker 1: it's not just sweetness and kindness, you know, if she
Speaker 1: doesn't like you, like the grocer and the neighborhood. With
Speaker 1: the mention of wor Cup, she disconnects the TV at
Speaker 1: Expirements and with the grocer who's not very nice at
Speaker 1: all to his coworker, who's perhaps on the simpler side
Speaker 1: of intellect. Perhaps she goes you know, she goes into
Speaker 1: his apartment and basically tortures him with little micro you aggressions.
Speaker 4: Yes, I must say, when she put her hand on
Speaker 4: the grains, I was like, that does look nice?
Speaker 1: Are there? Things like?
Speaker 2: That?
Speaker 1: Was one of the big things about it as well,
Speaker 1: though I really enjoyed them. Those things that you know,
Speaker 1: they get to know a quick little bio of somebody
Speaker 1: he likes, he dislikes. What would your likes and dislikes.
Speaker 4: My I think one of the things that makes me
Speaker 4: happiest in this world is going on an ism a
Speaker 4: travel lader in the airport, walking on a travel lader
Speaker 4: of the airport. I get so much joy from walking
Speaker 4: on one of those and looking at the people next
Speaker 4: to me and going, I'm going so much faster. I
Speaker 4: don't understand people don't go on the That's crazy. I
Speaker 4: feel like Oscar for stories on there.
Speaker 1: And that's what a similarity is.
Speaker 4: End.
Speaker 1: You could have gone so many other fast.
Speaker 4: I mean Kathy Freeman, I mean.
Speaker 1: Bolt. So I was trying to think.
Speaker 4: I feel like a man with no legs.
Speaker 1: Who was accused found to your murder. So what would
Speaker 1: be a dislike a dislike? What would be a fun
Speaker 1: little quirky little dislike being a have a letter? Feeling like.
Speaker 4: This legs she dislikes. God, this is making me seem
Speaker 4: so cheery and happy, like I can't think of something
Speaker 4: I despike, Whereas I feel like my life is filled
Speaker 4: with so many, so many aggressions. How about this. This
Speaker 4: is something I'm very minor. But when another comedian insists
Speaker 4: upon you coming to the show but never once expresses
Speaker 4: interest in coming to your show, that is something I've
Speaker 4: recently realized.
Speaker 1: I mean, I I enjoyed coming to your show in Britlyne.
Speaker 1: I'm glad I did. I'm glad because it would have
Speaker 1: it would have felt personal.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, you did not insist upon me coming.
Speaker 4: That was you seemed upset of anything.
Speaker 1: Only here there's legs when comedians it did not to
Speaker 1: come to his show. But it's not.
Speaker 4: It's it's fine for them not to. I don't mind
Speaker 4: people not COVID. It's when they're they're like you got
Speaker 4: to you know, the keep inviting me to the show
Speaker 4: and going, oh, you know, you know, I'm busy.
Speaker 1: You know, like I am.
Speaker 4: You know, we're all busy, you know. But then but
Speaker 4: then they not once are like, oh can I get
Speaker 4: a comp to your show? That feels like a bit.
Speaker 4: That's that's the rudeness, I.
Speaker 1: Think, Yes, that is do you want to name names?
Speaker 4: Yes, let's go. Kevin Hart.
Speaker 1: I like, yeah, he likes the smell of orange on
Speaker 1: his fingers of orange and the and the taste of
Speaker 1: a sultan bringing a chip on the tip of his tongue.
Speaker 1: And I dislikes. Hell yeah, he dislikes when meals come
Speaker 1: out at restaurants at odd times. Happened this morning. We
Speaker 1: were we were actually went out for breakfast and I
Speaker 1: got my my Birchu musley and I was finishing up.
Speaker 1: My wife still hadn't got a avocado. Yeah, only smashed.
Speaker 1: That's not you know, not that complix. It wasn't that complicated.
Speaker 4: Yes, no, I I agree, And then you've got this
Speaker 4: awkward thing with her, I mean, especially opinion what you get.
Speaker 4: They sort of insist on you eating your meal you know,
Speaker 4: well yeah, yeah, I mean you can't have your meal
Speaker 4: got cold or whatever or well.
Speaker 1: Then they said, can we give you a complimentary you know,
Speaker 1: something else to eat? No, we don't, we don't, we
Speaker 1: don't have we don't have the time anything to the drinks.
Speaker 1: Say I'll have a child, and then that didn't come.
Speaker 1: Let's just we'll call the whole thing off. But I also,
Speaker 1: hell yeah, also the lakes. When seconds are left on
Speaker 1: the microwave clock. Oh don't like when seconds yeah left
Speaker 1: on you.
Speaker 4: Mean you mean like if someone opens the microwave early
Speaker 4: and it doesn't reset it. Yeah, you know, one hundred percent,
Speaker 4: you're right.
Speaker 1: I like it on zero.
Speaker 4: Yes, not your Your microwave doesn't have the time like
Speaker 4: the vastly incorrect time on it.
Speaker 1: No, we know it's actually just goes back to zero.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 1: I think there's enough clocks in our house and watches
Speaker 1: on devices that we don't need a microwave.
Speaker 4: I did mean to lift. I didn't me to compliment.
Speaker 4: You did get here on times, and it.
Speaker 1: Was nothing to do with the micros. It played no part.
Speaker 1: It really didn't, I'm sure, and we'll get the reasons
Speaker 1: made way. What irked you about this film or what
Speaker 1: didn't grab your attention? But it's a well it's a
Speaker 1: beautifully made film, right.
Speaker 4: Yes, it is beautiful. I will, I will admit that.
Speaker 4: And that's always something that's so nice about a film
Speaker 4: I think about like that. It's just pleasant to look at.
Speaker 4: It almost feels sort of like a lost art, you know.
Speaker 4: And maybe this just shows how much of a philistine
Speaker 4: I am. But the only time I the other time
Speaker 4: I really noticed it is with Wis Anderson Films. Yeah,
Speaker 4: when you feel like everything's been so carefully placed, and
Speaker 4: there's a color pellette I think he uses and Amelle
Speaker 4: uses that. I don't think it is really used all
Speaker 4: that often in modern films.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's a really good comparison. And so
Speaker 1: you often hear about the French New Wave and and
Speaker 1: and what does that? What does that mean? Who are
Speaker 1: the French? And it's like Jean look, Gerard and t
Speaker 1: Faux and they were just poor and not getting the
Speaker 1: you know, the money to make their films. And in
Speaker 1: a way they were critical of the French films we
Speaker 1: made of the day because they were like very shiny
Speaker 1: and very not really showing Paris as Paris is. Ironically, Emily,
Speaker 1: you could argue, does not really show Paris as Paris is.
Speaker 4: It's funny that the financing limiting them. It reminds me
Speaker 4: of I try to write an English essay in back
Speaker 4: in high school about film To Kill a Mockingbird, the
Speaker 4: one starring Gregory Pitt. Yes, and you know, I wanted
Speaker 4: to argue that it was filmed in black and white
Speaker 4: to make a point about racism. No, they had to film.
Speaker 1: There is something about which I'm sure you've come across
Speaker 1: in your career that when you don't have certainly happened
Speaker 1: when you know we've done it's a date, or how
Speaker 1: to stay married, or the film I made a film
Speaker 1: cause I love you too.
Speaker 4: I thought at first it was about you delvyd your
Speaker 4: own personal life that I've been on a first date money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I dated my wife and we didn't get married
Speaker 1: on the spot, thankfully. But no, when you when you
Speaker 1: were snookered by budget or the location doesn't become available,
Speaker 1: you often come up with a much better idea, this
Speaker 1: idea that boundaries and having parameters set by the studio
Speaker 1: or the ties and suites upstairs. Now, sometimes obviously that
Speaker 1: is annoying and it's not for the betterment of the
Speaker 1: film or the projects. But I think quite often it's
Speaker 1: amazing how many times, particularly if it happens in the
Speaker 1: writing phase of it, you can go, Okay, let's work
Speaker 1: around this, what's a better solution, and you often come
Speaker 1: up with a better idea.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent. Yes, I always feel that that way
Speaker 4: about when people complain about political correctness and comedy. You know,
Speaker 4: regardless of you know your view of it. If you
Speaker 4: think there is you know, a new rule or whatever
Speaker 4: about what you can and can't say. Then you can
Speaker 4: play with that and work around it. Like Ben Hurley,
Speaker 4: a New Zealand comedian.
Speaker 1: A great comic, previous guest on the show, a friend
Speaker 1: of mine. Ben, Yes, he's so funny. On the current
Speaker 1: season task Master, Yes.
Speaker 4: He has just finished airing. He has a joke about
Speaker 4: how he went to get a massage, and the opening
Speaker 4: of the joke is about how she came from a
Speaker 4: country and you can no longer do their accent anymore,
Speaker 4: but she let's just say she was German and she
Speaker 4: came from a little German town called Shanghai. He does
Speaker 4: a German accent. It's such a funny, it's such a
Speaker 4: that's so much cleverer than just doing it, you know,
Speaker 4: doing a mock caricature Asian accent or whatever. You know,
Speaker 4: it's so much funnier. And I always think it was
Speaker 4: well about Mash the TV show. I think I think
Speaker 4: there was the American version. They wanted them to have
Speaker 4: a laugh track and Mash you know that all the right,
Speaker 4: you know, they hated having a laugh track, but the
Speaker 4: studio relented and said, Okay, you don't have to have
Speaker 4: a laugh track when you're filming in the hospital. Scenes.
Speaker 4: I guess maybe there were meant to be somber or whatever.
Speaker 4: And so then they tried to sit as many scenes
Speaker 4: as they could inside the hospital so that way they
Speaker 4: never had to use the laugh track. And I think
Speaker 4: that's kind of interesting innovation, you know, Yeah, that produces
Speaker 4: just much more interesting stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely so in these films. And I think Where's
Speaker 1: Anderson is obviously influenced by the French New Wave because
Speaker 1: because they didn't have the money, they would have dolly shots,
Speaker 1: but they'll be in a wheelbarrow with the camera or
Speaker 1: on a bicycle, you know. So, and the camera was
Speaker 1: often always moving or handheld. In Arma Lee, the camera
Speaker 1: is always moving, it never it never, it's still, you know.
Speaker 1: Breaking the Fourth Wall was a kind of a French
Speaker 1: New Wave thing. Was it narration? Like in narration, like
Speaker 1: starting a film with monologue in narration? Is it kind
Speaker 1: of came I think from the French New Wave, Like
Speaker 1: you see good failures kind to do that a really
Speaker 1: good you know effect.
Speaker 4: This is this thing where like I feel like by
Speaker 4: having this conversation, you're convincing me to enjoy the film.
Speaker 4: Like I'm like, oh, maybe I did like it, Like
Speaker 4: I'm loning all these interesting things. It's like when I
Speaker 4: saw the film, did you ever watch Tar? Which was yeah,
Speaker 4: which was again, there was a film I did not
Speaker 4: enjoy when I saw it, And then basically then when
Speaker 4: I was I saw it, and then I where I
Speaker 4: filmed task Master the New Zealand season after seeing it,
Speaker 4: and every day I was on set we talked about
Speaker 4: the film Tar and eventually had so many conversations about Tar.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, maybe it was a really great film.
Speaker 1: That's so funny because I shot my series of task
Speaker 1: Master coming up later this year in Australia. We shot
Speaker 1: it just after I think you had shot your series. Yes,
Speaker 1: that sounds right, and that that conversation that idea got
Speaker 1: back to us the Tar. For some reason, it became
Speaker 1: like a little well, well yeah, And then it became
Speaker 1: a joke between because we had the same thing of
Speaker 1: like discussing that we like the film and night and
Speaker 1: so it became it's still a running joke between me
Speaker 1: and Resnichols. And whenever I see Tar, if it's on
Speaker 1: an airplane, I take a photo and I said with
Speaker 1: the Reis Nicholson, just say, you know Tars playing uncontesce
Speaker 1: at the moment, or just so you know, he's a
Speaker 1: photo tars on the in the Foxtel store, as anybody
Speaker 1: who is that. You know, he's in the Edinburgh Festival
Speaker 1: at the moment, and I'm still sending him Tar photos.
Speaker 4: That's so crazy that it filtered down. But yeah, I
Speaker 4: remember Joseph Moore, who's part of the writing team for
Speaker 4: task Master, said he pitched a task which was of
Speaker 4: we came up with the show Tarsk Master, and his
Speaker 4: task was write an opera, write a concert without getting canceled.
Speaker 1: So did you enjoy tar in the end?
Speaker 4: I think I've become convinced that I did enjoy it.
Speaker 4: I've only said it the one time, but I've, you know,
Speaker 4: the more I think about it, and like I read
Speaker 4: reviews about like the structure of the film was meant
Speaker 4: to mirror the piece that she was writing, like it's
Speaker 4: a slow beginning, but then it has like quite a
Speaker 4: frenetic crescendo. And I did enjoy elements of her, like
Speaker 4: her crashing into the conductor. But I remember when it ended,
Speaker 4: I was sort of like, oh, is that it's just over? Okay? Whoops?
Speaker 4: And I probably didn't read into the significance of how
Speaker 4: far she had fallen and stuff. But I did think
Speaker 4: there were elements of it that were very clever, like
Speaker 4: the slow reveal that she had been sort of inappropriate
Speaker 4: with it with a student, or the slow reveal of
Speaker 4: that that preview student. I feel like people probably listening
Speaker 4: to this podcast, we're not expected to get spoiled about
Speaker 4: the film Tar.
Speaker 1: Well. My biggest shock about Tar was that it wasn't
Speaker 1: I thought it was based on it. It really sells
Speaker 1: the idea, and the performance is so good, and they
Speaker 1: have these long I think maybe it's the opening scene
Speaker 1: where she's doing this long kind of form interview of
Speaker 1: an audience.
Speaker 4: Yes, that that was a challenging scene.
Speaker 1: I thought it was. It kind of makes you think, oh,
Speaker 1: they're showing this scene because this is like, this is
Speaker 1: a conversation has happened, and then this is showing how
Speaker 1: good she is and how much she knows and how
Speaker 1: much is in control of her craft, and you know
Speaker 1: it's going to get an insight of this woman and
Speaker 1: her career before we move into because you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know who Tar is. You know,
Speaker 1: I haven't And it was only after the film I googled.
Speaker 1: You know, Tar, I want to know more and then
Speaker 1: that completely completely. Rarely have I been disappointed. I mean,
Speaker 1: when we heard Forrest Gump wasn't a real guy.
Speaker 4: That was I guess we have to do this long
Speaker 4: think about the wood maker making the puppet. But I
Speaker 4: would love it, but I can't went in into Pinocchio's life.
Speaker 1: Get back to your point, this podcast has quite a
Speaker 1: few times now somebody who would say, ah, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure, and I particular like and mean by the
Speaker 1: end through discussing it, actually I might watch it again,
Speaker 1: or maybe I enjoyed it more than I thought.
Speaker 4: I yes. And also to go back to what you
Speaker 4: said about Lydia Tar, about her being a real person.
Speaker 4: I feel like so much of how I learn things nowadays,
Speaker 4: as I go and I watch a biopic or I
Speaker 4: watch a film based on now you know now every
Speaker 4: film was basically based on real events, and you watch
Speaker 4: that and then you go, but did it happen that way?
Speaker 4: Then that's how I learn about historical facts. Now, as
Speaker 4: I go on Wikipedia and I learned about how everything
Speaker 4: that the film got wrong, and that's now how I
Speaker 4: know what actually happened on was it Missus Harris's Evil
Speaker 4: Little Letters or whatever. That Olivia Coleman film was Wicked,
Speaker 4: Wicked Little Letters or something else.
Speaker 1: I watched that. I haven't seen that one, but it's
Speaker 1: thoroughly averages that may not make the poster the perfect film.
Speaker 4: That's how I would describe it.
Speaker 1: I I mean, let's what's your Do you have a
Speaker 1: relationship with Paris?
Speaker 4: No, I've never been, so that my relationship begins and
Speaker 4: ends with the Olympics of this year, I think, so. Yeah, No,
Speaker 4: I've never been. I mean, you know, I'd love to go,
Speaker 4: I guess, but no, I've not been.
Speaker 1: So And do you have because a lot of people
Speaker 1: it's one of those cities that people will have a
Speaker 1: wonderlust for, like the idea of, like the romance of it,
Speaker 1: or the history. Do you I mean outside just like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: it would be nice to go one day. But do
Speaker 1: you have an urge to go to Paris?
Speaker 4: No? No, I have sort of zero urge to go traveling.
Speaker 4: Like I'm very like I I guess I'm very said
Speaker 4: in my ways maybe, but like, I know I should
Speaker 4: go to Paris, and I think that would be the
Speaker 4: thing that motivates me to go, Like oh, I have
Speaker 4: to go to Paris.
Speaker 1: It's Paris, you know, So I.
Speaker 4: Will go eventually, I imagine, but it's I don't have
Speaker 4: a drive really to visit any place really apart from
Speaker 4: the fact that like you should, you should go to
Speaker 4: these places.
Speaker 1: It's it's rare that you come across somebody's like travel.
Speaker 1: There is somebody now my wife and my life that
Speaker 1: is has been very likely to travel. And if they do,
Speaker 1: it's it's America. No no interest, so curiosity, massive fan
Speaker 1: and and that's it. Always. It always intrigues me as
Speaker 1: to as to what what that's based on.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I think it's the thing of just
Speaker 4: I like, you know, I think what I like is
Speaker 4: I do like hanging out with my friends, you know,
Speaker 4: I love having conversations with him and stuff. And I
Speaker 4: think I'm just very neutral about where we do that.
Speaker 4: You know, like we could go should we could go
Speaker 4: swimming and we could hang in a pool and talk,
Speaker 4: or we could you know, or we could you know,
Speaker 4: we can go to Paris, and you know that, And
Speaker 4: it is actually I mean, I think, you know, it
Speaker 4: is nice to go traveling with your friends because then
Speaker 4: at least it gives you things to talk about. You know, yes,
Speaker 4: and you know, and then you have memories and you
Speaker 4: you know, memories are nice. I guess.
Speaker 1: Well, memories cannot also nice. Famously, there are plenty of
Speaker 1: memories that you would like to raise and getting too.
Speaker 4: A little bit of Eternal Sunshine, the smellst mindy. Yes,
Speaker 4: a great film. Yes, oh that, maybe that? Maybe that
Speaker 4: was one of the films on my top four when
Speaker 4: I did the top four list.
Speaker 1: There we go. Well, it's also an interesting like with
Speaker 1: Ironic to forget it. But I feel like there's a
Speaker 1: connection with Eternal Sunshine and Armor Lee, like there's a
Speaker 1: certain I think Eternal Sunshine is darker and it goes
Speaker 1: to more Perhaps there I say interesting places and ask
Speaker 1: bigger for philosophical questions. Even though Armily is a very
Speaker 1: simple film about can you make other people's lives better?
Speaker 1: And what's your role in doing that? And how important
Speaker 1: is isin? And I do like that Armiles. It's kind
Speaker 1: of a love story, certainly a romantic films. It's you
Speaker 1: always feel that she's doing it for the betterment of herself,
Speaker 1: more than the idea of needing a guy to make
Speaker 1: her life better. I think you know the fact that
Speaker 1: she goes and attempts to make other people's lives better,
Speaker 1: and through doing that, I think becomes confident enough to
Speaker 1: land this guy, if you like she does in a
Speaker 1: very complicated way. I mean, there are things in this movie,
Speaker 1: like with the phone box, the little treasure trove, the
Speaker 1: tin boxes she finds and she finally gets it into
Speaker 1: the hands of the person who lost it as a child.
Speaker 1: But even then it's just like that you call the
Speaker 1: phone box as he's walking by, and then you hang up,
Speaker 1: and then he has to see the tin box. It's
Speaker 1: like there's an easy way of doing that.
Speaker 4: Yes, I remember thinking at the end where I thought, oh,
Speaker 4: she's finally going to meet Nino or what Nina? And
Speaker 4: he looks in the photo whel on the page she sees,
Speaker 4: and then it's do you want to meet me? Go here?
Speaker 4: And then he goes to Then he goes to the
Speaker 4: cafe and he's waiting for her, and she's too, puts
Speaker 4: a note in his pocket. Then it's like, come on, just.
Speaker 1: Talk, just say hello. I mean I was I was
Speaker 1: thinking with the phone box, why why isn't she making
Speaker 1: conversation with this guy? And then you realize, oh, she's
Speaker 1: actually quite crippling shy. I do love the setup of
Speaker 1: her relationship with her parents, you know the fact that
Speaker 1: her her mum. You know, like this film is kind
Speaker 1: of I think when people kind of think about amily,
Speaker 1: they think about it it's romantic, it's idealistic, and they
Speaker 1: kind of forget about some of the darker elements. Her mum,
Speaker 1: her mom gets squashed by somebody leaping off committing suicide
Speaker 1: of a cathedral. Yes, I mean that's it's a light yes.
Speaker 4: And then her dad assumes she has a heart condition
Speaker 4: and and homeschools. Like she has no social she has
Speaker 4: no friends for her.
Speaker 1: Growing up, doesn't have any friends because her father does
Speaker 1: not not in the physical contact. So the only time
Speaker 1: she has physical contact is when he gives her a
Speaker 1: medical and that causes the very the thrill of his
Speaker 1: hand is gently being on her on a steposcope being
Speaker 1: on her chest sends her heart into increases her heartbeat,
Speaker 1: so they assume she has a medical heart defect, so
Speaker 1: she ends up being homeschool I think it's incredible.
Speaker 4: No, yes, no, I do think the opening. I remember
Speaker 4: going in thinking like there's a chance I'm not going
Speaker 4: to like this film, and then the opening I must say,
Speaker 4: I really I was really really enjoying the film, like
Speaker 4: her childhood and stuff growing up, and I think I'm
Speaker 4: trying to pinpoint what I disliked, and I think I
Speaker 4: don't think I like it when films and books and
Speaker 4: stuff are maybe aimless as too as an unfeared description.
Speaker 4: But like, have you read Catcher in the Rye?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 4: And the Catcher in the rye is sort of you know,
Speaker 4: does he does the main character even hold it hold
Speaker 4: in court? Yes, he just it's a sort of him
Speaker 4: just sort of wandering about and looking at things and
Speaker 4: then going like, oh, you know, I hate that or
Speaker 4: I like this or whatever, and then it just kind
Speaker 4: of then it's just sort of over. Yeah, and all
Speaker 4: this that's my memory of it from red in high school.
Speaker 3: And I.
Speaker 4: Think I have an issue with films where I feel
Speaker 4: like they follow a similar kind of pattern. I guess
Speaker 4: I felt like and like, I don't know, she reunites
Speaker 4: the guy with the box, and then I was like, Okay,
Speaker 4: I thought that was the main thing, and now there's
Speaker 4: just this whole other thing and she's just kind of
Speaker 4: doing stuff now, and I was like, what is the
Speaker 4: I don't know, I think it speaks to me being
Speaker 4: quite stupid and film and film illiterate. I think where
Speaker 4: there's I feel like, if there's not like an obvious
Speaker 4: plot point for them to get to, I'm sort of like,
Speaker 4: what's going on here? What am I watching this for?
Speaker 4: What's what's happening?
Speaker 1: The filmmaker should and obviously for many people, the filmmaker
Speaker 1: has done this.
Speaker 4: No, No, I'm very much in the wrong.
Speaker 1: We all we all can out with different films, but
Speaker 1: you know, it should always feel there's momentum in a
Speaker 1: film that you were constantly asking questions of the film.
Speaker 1: I do think the powerful thing about Amalie is every
Speaker 1: department is just in stunning form. The color in this
Speaker 1: you know they use they use red, green, and yellow,
Speaker 1: a whole bunch, with the occasional flash of blue like
Speaker 1: you see like a blue lamp or a blue car,
Speaker 1: and that's you know, and it's and it's all very deliberate.
Speaker 1: It's all it's all done to represent different moods. And
Speaker 1: we won't deep dive too much into that because you know,
Speaker 1: you can do that online like all the work for
Speaker 1: you guys.
Speaker 4: No, but it does feel like one of those films,
Speaker 4: like again, like Tar where it's so rich I think,
Speaker 4: and what it's doing, like again, like the you know,
Speaker 4: it looks so beautiful and it's it's such a it's
Speaker 4: an interesting film. I'll definitely give it that like. And
Speaker 4: and so maybe that's if any think it's that's more
Speaker 4: important than me enjoying it, is that like it's going
Speaker 4: to be a film that I think I could discuss
Speaker 4: with people for a long long time, Whereas again, like
Speaker 4: you know, Wicked Little Letters as a film that I,
Speaker 4: you know, I never think about, you know, in Tars,
Speaker 4: a film I still think about, you know, And just
Speaker 4: because I didn't enjoy it at the time doesn't necessarily
Speaker 4: mean it's not a good film, I guess as how
Speaker 4: maybe howd you know, I think I can just like
Speaker 4: maybe this is a crazy thing to do, but maybe
Speaker 4: it's from studying philosophy. But I feel like you can
Speaker 4: make a distinction between whether or not the film is
Speaker 4: good and whether or not I actually enjoyed it. And
Speaker 4: I don't think I enjoyed it at the time I
Speaker 4: watched it, But the film is probably good and it's
Speaker 4: like it's, you know, it's a richer film than a
Speaker 4: lot out there, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's something to say for that. There
Speaker 1: are films that you decide in the moment that you love.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: There are times where I'm watching a film and very
Speaker 1: early on, it could be the first scene buscashid in
Speaker 1: the Sundance Kid I watched for this podcast, and in
Speaker 1: the opening titles, I thought, I love this film, you know,
Speaker 1: and of course who knows, and I end up loving
Speaker 1: that film, But it could have gone a separate way,
Speaker 1: but I felt very safe hands. Then there are films
Speaker 1: that you kind of just just just staying you like
Speaker 1: Past Laves as a film that I watched it again recently,
Speaker 1: and that was a film that just I loved it
Speaker 1: watching it, but just it grew in richness for me
Speaker 1: the more it's stayed in my head and the more
Speaker 1: I thought about it. And the fact is, Ray, I'm
Speaker 1: planning on recording this for six hours, so you're be
Speaker 1: doing with amal long for a lot.
Speaker 4: The film like Requiem for a Dream, I think when
Speaker 4: I watched that, I was I think I was like
Speaker 4: depressed for three days after it was like it was
Speaker 4: horrified watch and like it's probably like the best film
Speaker 4: I'll never watch again, you know, like it probably is
Speaker 4: a great film, but it's just so upset.
Speaker 1: I think I think it's it's important to kind of
Speaker 1: otherwise we end up all being trolls and going I
Speaker 1: hated this film. Why do people like this film? I've
Speaker 1: spoken about this before in this podcast, but I think
Speaker 1: it's a message worth spreading. We did puns Strang Love
Speaker 1: with Hamis McDonald and I love Punstrang Love. I think
Speaker 1: it's an unbelievable film. That's that's one of the Thomas
Speaker 1: Anderson and Emily Watson Emily Watson. Funny enough, the year
Speaker 1: I saw it was written for Emily Watson, and then
Speaker 1: they didn't check she doesn't speak French. I would have
Speaker 1: thought before that role could have gone to us. So yeah,
Speaker 1: she she was on duo Lgodon between it was a bonjour?
Speaker 1: Can you just can you do a dr after bonur?
Speaker 4: A film? All my conversation from behind the.
Speaker 1: And then and then we just do the rest in English?
Speaker 1: Is that call? I really love it as a film,
Speaker 1: like it'd be my top ten. And Hamish did not
Speaker 1: connect with it the reasons that I kind of disagree with,
Speaker 1: but at the same time, that's that's how he saw
Speaker 1: that film, and and I just spoked to another friend,
Speaker 1: George Tani, who knows Hamish and myself, and she just
Speaker 1: made the point I think sometimes we are so keen
Speaker 1: for people to like the same stuff we like, you know,
Speaker 1: because you like I want to spread the word about
Speaker 1: this movie. I want you to feel the same way
Speaker 1: I do about it. But what makes it's special is
Speaker 1: the connection you have in this with with this film,
Speaker 1: that you saw the beauty in this film, and it
Speaker 1: makes it even more special that sometimes that other people
Speaker 1: don't see that. You know, there could be a song
Speaker 1: or a painting, whatever it might be. But it's it's
Speaker 1: good that we all have different realationships with.
Speaker 4: These yes you know, pieces of art, Yes, yes, one
Speaker 4: hundred percent years. I've also I've been thinking ever since
Speaker 4: you said maybe I'd connect with the character Emilie because
Speaker 4: we're both sort of people sort of going through our
Speaker 4: lives that a similar way. And I was trying to
Speaker 4: think the film I watched. I'm trying to think of
Speaker 4: the last film I watched about a man going to
Speaker 4: go into France that I connected with was Mister Bean's Holiday,
Speaker 4: which I think is maybe a more apt comedy per se.
Speaker 1: When people get asked who are your ideal three guests
Speaker 1: at a dinner party, Regulary, Amie and mister Bean. There
Speaker 1: is something I think nice about watching a character who
Speaker 1: particularly we know her history, losing her mother and then
Speaker 1: she was her father. There was not necessarily the connection
Speaker 1: finding their voice in the world. Yeah, I think he's
Speaker 1: very powerful. Talk about some of the characters that we met.
Speaker 1: We have the lady who lives I think downstairs, downstairs
Speaker 1: in the same apartment. This is a bit of a
Speaker 1: strange one. So she lost her husband I think hadn
Speaker 1: was having an affair and is writing letters, but he
Speaker 1: died in a plane accident. That they were writing levels
Speaker 1: back and forth, but she didn't receive the last letter
Speaker 1: or something. And then Amile to make things better. There's
Speaker 1: a bit of cutting and past in this old school. Yes, right,
Speaker 1: this is when it was hard to do a bit
Speaker 1: of cutting and paste. Your generation's got so easy. And
Speaker 1: it's a little bit morally dubious. I think like she
Speaker 1: does when she starts meddling, she almost become addicted to
Speaker 1: the meddling. And you can argue that it's a little
Speaker 1: bit yeah, like I said, morrally dubious, but it does
Speaker 1: lift the mood of that character, whether it's it's well,
Speaker 1: it's not based on fact, it's based on fiction.
Speaker 4: He's had a Yes, I know, there's there's that philosophical
Speaker 4: question of I guess of would you be okay living
Speaker 4: I guess living in a world where it turns out
Speaker 4: that all your friends sort of secretly despised you. You know,
Speaker 4: no one actually liked you, you know, anyone you thought
Speaker 4: was close to you actually you know they were mocking
Speaker 4: you behind your back every you know, every turn they
Speaker 4: could get it they could.
Speaker 1: Is that what's happening?
Speaker 4: Look, I've got some I've been in some group chats.
Speaker 4: Every time you send a message to Reye. Nicholson about tar.
Speaker 1: Reese messages, his last reply was just like, you know
Speaker 1: this thing laughing emerge cone better than that. It's fascinating.
Speaker 4: Yes, this idea of you know, is it better to
Speaker 4: be aware of that stuff or would you rather live
Speaker 4: in blissful ignorance? And I think, I mean a lot
Speaker 4: of people probably do imagine themselves as the kind of
Speaker 4: person like I'd love to you know, live the truth
Speaker 4: or whatever. You know, the truth is so important to me.
Speaker 4: But when you think about it like that, you're like Oh,
Speaker 4: maybe that the ignorance would be quite nice. Maybe it
Speaker 4: would be nice to ever Armilee type figure sort of
Speaker 4: intervening and making sure I was protected from how horrible
Speaker 4: everyone around me was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd love Emily organizing your birthday party. I think
Speaker 1: she would do a pretty bang up job. She liked
Speaker 1: her crass, you know, she likes a.
Speaker 4: Surprise, goodie begs filled with grain.
Speaker 1: The one character I thought was a bit I didn't
Speaker 1: particularly like was the character in the in the cafe
Speaker 1: who is kind of like my stalking Oh. Yes, and
Speaker 1: then Amile decides, okay, he's a bit of a creep
Speaker 1: I'll set her up. I'll set him up with the
Speaker 1: other one. With the other one's name.
Speaker 4: The cigarette the tobacconist was a hypochondriac.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that was a strange mood.
Speaker 4: Yes he was. He looked unpleasant. He was constantly recording
Speaker 4: everything that was happening in the cafe. And then after
Speaker 4: they do sort of hook up, he doesn't he doesn't
Speaker 4: see to turn a new leaf, like he seems to
Speaker 4: be just as creepy as he was, still these kind
Speaker 4: of he seems still mad and bitter, and it's still
Speaker 4: recording what everyone's up to and he thinks because he's
Speaker 4: sort of a love triangle thing going on, right, and
Speaker 4: he or like he thinks that other waitresses trying to
Speaker 4: flirt with Nino when he put when she because he
Speaker 4: sees her put the thing anyway, you know, he's an unpleasant,
Speaker 4: awful man.
Speaker 1: It's a slight strange one because why would you set
Speaker 1: up beside this man with I assume another coworker just
Speaker 1: to get him out of the hair of that coworker,
Speaker 1: because there's nothing that suggests that they're good together, I think,
Speaker 1: you know, but they end up having wild sex in
Speaker 1: the bathroom, yes, which is you know, it's very comical,
Speaker 1: and I think it's played for last.
Speaker 4: Is the sixteenth orgasm, is.
Speaker 1: The sixteenth agism, And I think it's important to have
Speaker 1: that because when you have the moment later on, when
Speaker 1: Amalie and Nino finally get together, you can imagine in
Speaker 1: this romanticized world that everyone in Paris is making love
Speaker 1: with one of each other. It's good to show that
Speaker 1: their tender way of making love is the way they
Speaker 1: do it. And there is is still rigorous other sex
Speaker 1: happening in bathrooms all over Paris, and I know we
Speaker 1: have had the orgasms already. But I think it's it's
Speaker 1: it's good, it makes that moment. It hit a little
Speaker 1: differently at the end.
Speaker 4: It's a bit tinder, a bit more sweet as opposed
Speaker 4: to the animalist.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's they're up against the glass, you know,
Speaker 1: the window of the bathroom.
Speaker 4: And everyone can see them. And then right at the end,
Speaker 4: Ami decides to turn on the coffee machine, as if
Speaker 4: that's going to obscure.
Speaker 1: That'll take it the last six minutes. Anyone's forgotten about that.
Speaker 4: I'll be making coffee this whole time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, But like Paris is also a big figure,
Speaker 1: and also like the idealization of Paris that they're clearly
Speaker 1: going for this and they're not. There was there's criticism
Speaker 1: of the on that it doesn't show the real Paris,
Speaker 1: but it's like it's ridiculous. It's like that's what the film.
Speaker 1: It's a choice of filmmakers making. There's plenty of films
Speaker 1: that show the real Paris. This is not about it
Speaker 1: being the real Paris. This is the idolized version of Paris.
Speaker 1: In the head of Amalie. The filmmakers actually went away
Speaker 1: and the crew scrubbed any graffiti on the walls of
Speaker 1: the train station. So everything's really clean in this film.
Speaker 1: There's no white in this film. I'm not sure you know.
Speaker 1: There's no white walls. Everything's either yellow or blue or
Speaker 1: so not blue. It is the occasional blue, but red
Speaker 1: or green, there's no there's no, there's not a white
Speaker 1: wall in this And there's a point where she goes
Speaker 1: up in the train station and goes to give money
Speaker 1: to a I think you've read them as a displaced
Speaker 1: person these days, and he says, no, I don't work
Speaker 1: on Sundays. Who refuses the money. So I think that
Speaker 1: is the reason that joke's there. One it's a reasonably
Speaker 1: funny joke, but it's a nod to kind of say
Speaker 1: this isn't reality. We're not dealing in in your reality.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent. And like even at the start of
Speaker 4: the film, she when she's a child, she plays doctor
Speaker 4: to like is it a giant crocodile or something like
Speaker 4: she has an imaginary friend that's like clearly a mythical creature. Yes,
Speaker 4: And there's some elements of like very I think a
Speaker 4: very small amount of c GI or like this. Well,
Speaker 4: like at one point she turns into a puddle. It's
Speaker 4: clearly like a fantastical version of height, a slightly heightened
Speaker 4: version of reality.
Speaker 1: Yeah, photos talking to her in the photo booth.
Speaker 4: Yes, I read a review that mentioned like things like
Speaker 4: there's no McDonald's in Paris, which, of course, like I mean,
Speaker 4: I've never been, but of course there would be a mcdonald'sy.
Speaker 4: But it's I think that's really nice. I think it's
Speaker 4: nice to see this sort of decommercialized version of a city.
Speaker 4: You know, I think I don't care where the movie
Speaker 4: you said. I think I would like to not see
Speaker 4: a big McDonald's sign. And what exactly this isn't the block.
Speaker 4: I don't need to have you promotion shoved down my face.
Speaker 1: You know that's right. And then Paris is such a
Speaker 1: romantic city, so why not lean into that. Paris is
Speaker 1: another film that I think is I do love And
Speaker 1: you know, some people say you're not supposed to the
Speaker 1: other on films anymore, but I think in Paris is
Speaker 1: his last great film. I think it's extraordinary.
Speaker 4: Yes, No, I didn't. I haven't had a chance. I
Speaker 4: have not seen that one. I did not get managed
Speaker 4: to get it under the wire before before it became
Speaker 4: publicly problematic to watch the films.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd argue that you still you.
Speaker 4: Get separation the art from the artist. Do you have
Speaker 4: a connection with Paris have you?
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been there quite a few times. I've
Speaker 1: been there about four times.
Speaker 4: Of course, because you're I mean your last show you
Speaker 4: talk about going to Rome the Romans where that story
Speaker 4: set with you that you take the phone.
Speaker 1: Great, yeah, thank you, thank you. And I do a
Speaker 1: bit about going to Paris and my wife wanting to
Speaker 1: learn French and the idea of going. You know, there's
Speaker 1: no point French unless you can learn the whole language,
Speaker 1: because then you go up to somebody and you will say, like,
Speaker 1: pretend this is French. It's because it's because you why
Speaker 1: where's a train station? And they will respond in the
Speaker 1: French because they think you're French, and you have to explain.
Speaker 1: I only learned the questions, so there's no point.
Speaker 4: So I was, I've been to China and when I
Speaker 4: went to China, the only phrase I learned was she
Speaker 4: and I'm probably pronouncing that even wrong, the one which
Speaker 4: is thank you, and that's all I basically, you know,
Speaker 4: like I had a because I'm vegan, and I had
Speaker 4: a thing saved on my phone that I just point
Speaker 4: out to be like, I eat what like I think
Speaker 4: it's like I eat what the monks eed or whatever.
Speaker 4: You know, I forget what the exact wordy was. But
Speaker 4: I think there's like a you know, a popular group
Speaker 4: within China that I'm like, Okay, I have the same
Speaker 4: diet as them, so you know, give me those kind
Speaker 4: of dumplings please. But I basically I went around saying
Speaker 4: she share. And the nice thing about traveling over like overseas,
Speaker 4: when you look like we do, is that no one
Speaker 4: will ever think I'm from New Zealand. You know, people
Speaker 4: will assume I'm a bumbling American if I if I,
Speaker 4: if I make a mistake, New Zealand gets off scot free.
Speaker 4: You know, like you know, it's a people if I
Speaker 4: do something super like, oh, that's just another dumb American
Speaker 4: ru ruining the place.
Speaker 1: And so well, often if you go to I think
Speaker 1: Paris is one of these cities where you almost have
Speaker 1: to let them know that you're not British or American.
Speaker 1: And once you let them know you're Australian or your
Speaker 1: case of New Zealander, they will you will see their attitudes.
Speaker 1: It's like it's actually a thing. I like, we've been
Speaker 1: there about four times. I love it. Like the whole
Speaker 1: thing about French people being rude, we haven't. We've seen
Speaker 1: it occasionally, but like no more times than any other
Speaker 1: city in the world, including my own city, Melbourne. Like,
Speaker 1: you know, there are rude people, but I love it.
Speaker 1: I think they've got the work life balance kind of
Speaker 1: worked out.
Speaker 4: Oh oh yes, I food there. That's sort of like
Speaker 4: when it hits five pm, they are literally like that's it.
Speaker 1: I'm done. You arrive in a small town and there's
Speaker 1: no you know, if you arrive at two o'clock that
Speaker 1: lunch is done. There's nowhere you're not eating. You're not eating.
Speaker 1: We I was like recently with the Glease and so
Speaker 1: Tom Gleason and his family, and when I over to
Speaker 1: Tom's apartment with my wife and we grabbed a couple
Speaker 1: of bottles of wine and and some bits and pieces
Speaker 1: some cheese, and it's amazing how you like you never
Speaker 1: rock up. I will never work up to your house
Speaker 1: with the cheese and bread. You know, I just want
Speaker 1: to be We're in France and you get cheesebread and
Speaker 1: some wine and we're literally waiting for time to come
Speaker 1: downstairs to let us in, and a woman approaches us,
Speaker 1: a French woman, and critiques our wine and kind of
Speaker 1: says that one is not no good. That is no good.
Speaker 1: That one you need that you need, you need to
Speaker 1: be you need to chill it, you need to chill it,
Speaker 1: and that's you know, and she's and we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: and we like it was good wine, like we brought
Speaker 1: it and we weren't skimping. And then my family and
Speaker 1: Tom's family we went at the Verst Saign together, let's
Speaker 1: have a day of Asai, and we got a a
Speaker 1: picnic blanket and got some more bits and again cheese
Speaker 1: and breads and and all that stuff. And we just
Speaker 1: grabbed a bottle of wine on the way there from
Speaker 1: like a supermarket, and it was we knew we weren't
Speaker 1: buying the best wine, but we just thought just when
Speaker 1: we sit down for a picnic and versaill, well that's
Speaker 1: the cheese, poor you know, wine into some plastic cups.
Speaker 1: And another woman came up to us and they said
Speaker 1: that is not a good wine. Like that she was
Speaker 1: even more and that is not good wine. Well, well,
Speaker 1: we can't do anything. Now we're drinking it. It's we're
Speaker 1: not tipping it out. But I kind of loved it
Speaker 1: so much because it's like, you know, occasionally in life
Speaker 1: and there's comedians, we look for these moments where it's like, fuck,
Speaker 1: something's happening. Somebody has stepped out of the usual kind
Speaker 1: of you know, pattern of life and and and changed
Speaker 1: it a bit and and we we I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 4: So it'd be like me, I, well, I do the
Speaker 4: similar thing. But when I see people eating the wrong
Speaker 4: kind of aureos, I'm like, you want to get double stuffed,
Speaker 4: more creepy.
Speaker 1: People eating crunches the wrong way. So then you take
Speaker 1: the chocolate off the top and you and the signe
Speaker 1: you can't just bite into it, mate, excellently. I've got
Speaker 1: a few things before we wrap up price tagging the dildos,
Speaker 1: and you notice that there's in the This is when
Speaker 1: you're writing a scene, if anyone's writing a you know script,
Speaker 1: you know, these are the fun little touches you can
Speaker 1: put in. There's a scene where I think Nino he's
Speaker 1: chatting out to the woman who was works at the
Speaker 1: pawn store with him, and they just casually price tagging dildos.
Speaker 1: I thought that was a lovely touch in this romantic
Speaker 1: French frill. Why not have somebody price tagging dildos.
Speaker 4: Yes, when she goes to the little heap show thing
Speaker 4: or you know, she goes to the porn store, I
Speaker 4: remember thinking this is not what I was expecting. And
Speaker 4: this feels like because when you see her face and
Speaker 4: the don't I think I thought Mla was a lot
Speaker 4: younger than maybe she actually was, like just judging from
Speaker 4: the DVD cover, you know, like, yeah, I thought it
Speaker 4: might be super sanitized going into it. I didn't realize
Speaker 4: there would be any kind of sexual element to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a sexual element, and then there's there's there's that,
Speaker 1: and I think there's a lot of stuff going on,
Speaker 1: and you know, there's punstrang Love actually does this really
Speaker 1: well as well, and I kind of made the point
Speaker 1: to be hamish, and I think Amalie does it. It
Speaker 1: shows the courage it can take to actually pronounce your
Speaker 1: love for somebody, like and I've been married now twenty
Speaker 1: one years, so I was thinking about this when I
Speaker 1: was watching it, kind of go yeah, when you have
Speaker 1: a crush on somebody, thinking back of how hard it
Speaker 1: is to let them know, particularly if you don't know
Speaker 1: if it's going to be requited. So there's a great
Speaker 1: moment where Adam Sander just holds out his hand and
Speaker 1: Emily Watson takes it in punstrang love and I think
Speaker 1: this moment Arma Lee is walking over towards the photo booth. Oh,
Speaker 1: and she's kind of organized with a repairman, that mystery
Speaker 1: man that's trying to work out who this guy is,
Speaker 1: especially is your ghost and he ends up being he's
Speaker 1: just a repairman. He fixes it, and when he fixes
Speaker 1: the photo booth, he takes a photo. He doesn't need
Speaker 1: the photo, so he discards it. And who is this
Speaker 1: mystery man? She works it out, makes Nino kind of
Speaker 1: you know, work it out too, plans all that, and
Speaker 1: then he's walking over towards him, and the luggage Carosel
Speaker 1: kind of gets in the way and then he's gone.
Speaker 1: But it's just like when she was walking over, I
Speaker 1: was was like, Yeah, this is like about the courage
Speaker 1: it takes to let somebody know how you feel. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: he also got the painter, which I think they called
Speaker 1: the glass Man.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, he's got the nickname. Yes, but he's
Speaker 4: trying to paint. He can't quite nail that one woman
Speaker 4: and the and the scene that he's trying to paint,
Speaker 4: which is sort of a metaphor.
Speaker 1: For for a yes, because he's got a glass of
Speaker 1: red wine. I think in front of it that's obscuring
Speaker 1: some of her face. I think that's the one that Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I like those scenes where it becomes they're obviously
Speaker 1: talking about Amalie, and at some point you see that
Speaker 1: they both I think both characters have to know that
Speaker 1: they're both talking about amily, but it goes, it goes
Speaker 1: not spoken yes, yes, but you can see they both understand.
Speaker 4: It's one hundred percent the way he's looking at her,
Speaker 4: he knows he is Yeah, yeah, she doesn't know herself.
Speaker 1: Well, that's it, and that's and and that's the journey.
Speaker 1: The name stuff. Of course, we have got to mention
Speaker 1: the names because the name became kind of the big thing.
Speaker 1: There's almost a parodied is.
Speaker 4: It in Andy Griffith's book. I actually maybe maybe I
Speaker 4: was the right age to read them, but I'm pretty
Speaker 4: sure he did. I think he wrote a.
Speaker 1: Short story where really post Armily do you think?
Speaker 4: Or post Armily was it? Was it? After nine to eleven,
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 1: Always, always, any Griffith's work through.
Speaker 4: With a twelve hour old boys ships out to at,
Speaker 4: I think he has I think it would have been
Speaker 4: I think at least the age I was was definitely
Speaker 4: would have been post.
Speaker 1: Because because there was there's a great film, a Jason
Speaker 1: Rightman film with George Clooney and Anna kendrickt Up in
Speaker 1: the Air.
Speaker 4: I think that's a phenomenal film.
Speaker 1: That's film that I think I would have seen. Now.
Speaker 1: It's very that film's on. I'm not I'm not turning away.
Speaker 1: I really enjoy it. Up in the Air.
Speaker 4: I think I've only seen it the first time it
Speaker 4: was on, but I remember it being like, yeah, I
Speaker 4: remember loving it. I remember the oh yes, no, yeah,
Speaker 4: there's the firing scene.
Speaker 1: It's very rewatchable. Jason Bateman's in love Jason Batemanat they
Speaker 1: do a similar thing and they actually refer to I
Speaker 1: like that Nome movie where they they call it the
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, it's not the Nome thing. And they're taking
Speaker 1: a photo. They're taking a picture of Dana McBride, who's
Speaker 1: the who's marrying George Clooney's sister in the film, and
Speaker 1: they've got like his cardboy cut out. Oh and of
Speaker 1: course his sister is of course Melanie Alinsky in New Zealand.
Speaker 1: Of course, how could you not on Mate two and
Speaker 1: a half man. But she's like, she's an extraordinary actress.
Speaker 1: Heavenly Creatures. Heavenly Creatures, wasn't Yes, And now she's in
Speaker 1: Yellow Jack is the Yellow Jack Yellow Jackets. Yeah, she's
Speaker 1: great and everything she's in. Vera Formiga is also, it's
Speaker 1: a really great film. But Dynamic Bride is marrying Melon
Speaker 1: Nielinski and they have this They can't afford to travel,
Speaker 1: so they have this carbor cut out and the idea
Speaker 1: friends are actually taking them away and getting them a
Speaker 1: photographed in different places, and so George Croney it could
Speaker 1: becomes a bit of an inconvenience to do this. And
Speaker 1: they refer to this like the Gnome thing or like
Speaker 1: the movie, and that's a reference to Amie. I believe
Speaker 1: the an Internet travel company had done some kind of
Speaker 1: thing with gnomes, and so Armiy's kind of borrowed from that.
Speaker 1: I believe.
Speaker 4: Yes, I thought that a really interesting thing about I mean,
Speaker 4: this is such such a small moment, but the impression
Speaker 4: I got when Amily, I think, does she go up
Speaker 4: and say to him. She says to her dad like, oh,
Speaker 4: where's the gnome or something like that, And I got you.
Speaker 4: I almost thought, oh, has he not even been outside
Speaker 4: to check? You know, maybe that's when he to go
Speaker 4: get the photo or something. But I thought it was
Speaker 4: like he's so living in a small little world that
Speaker 4: I don't think he even noticed the gnome was.
Speaker 1: Gone, you know, yeah, yeah, or then but then he
Speaker 1: became obsessed with it, obsessed and he was waiting for
Speaker 1: the postman, like, which is a such an almost I
Speaker 1: was chatting with fellow comedian who I want to who
Speaker 1: it is, because we haven't really kind of spoken to
Speaker 1: anyone about what we're working on. Somebody in there. In
Speaker 1: there they're thirty one, I can tell you the age.
Speaker 1: And we were chatting about the idea of like waiting
Speaker 1: for the postman, Like the postman arriving was an event.
Speaker 1: It was like you would, like you usually have an
Speaker 1: idea what time the postman would be coming, like these
Speaker 1: days it's just bills and pamphlets delivered, but back in
Speaker 1: you know, pre emails and all that, like letters would
Speaker 1: have birthday cards and so it was an event. So
Speaker 1: and he I like that he kind of starts waiting
Speaker 1: for the postman and he doesn't know what the's going on.
Speaker 1: If he ever finds out, he just becomes is this
Speaker 1: idea that Arma Lee is injecting magic in the people's lives?
Speaker 1: So the name is returned and he doesn't question it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think, were you expecting Princess Diana to play a
Speaker 1: role in this film?
Speaker 4: Not at all?
Speaker 1: Not all, not all going on.
Speaker 4: And also the way from memory, the way the film's
Speaker 4: the very start of the film, as it's sort of
Speaker 4: like you know that you know, her whole life changes
Speaker 4: the day Princess Diana dies, and I feel like they
Speaker 4: do like kind of like a weird flashed forward thing
Speaker 4: and you see sort of bits of the film that
Speaker 4: are coming forward, and maybe you see is that when
Speaker 4: you also see who driss and like maybe she's in
Speaker 4: black and white or wearing a mask or whatever, or
Speaker 4: you see the repairman or something, and I remember thinking like, oh,
Speaker 4: this is going to be like some kind of heist film,
Speaker 4: Like she's going to get like she's going to get
Speaker 4: involved in something way bigger than herself because of this
Speaker 4: box or whatever. You know, she's going to be something
Speaker 4: in with the Mafia, and so my expectations of what's
Speaker 4: what was going.
Speaker 1: On was, what the hell is going Yeah, I can
Speaker 1: imagine she does break the fourth wall, obviously, I don't
Speaker 1: think she ever. I think she does talk to the camera.
Speaker 1: I think when she's in the movie, she talked to
Speaker 1: the camerastin turn and smile.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: A This is a pre Jim Kazinski as well, or
Speaker 1: Prey of the Office, the American Office.
Speaker 4: At least, but pre Malcolm in the Middle.
Speaker 1: It was I liked it, but I almost never want
Speaker 1: to see it again in a way like it was.
Speaker 1: It was very cute, but I think they use it
Speaker 1: just enough. They had gone one more time with it,
Speaker 1: I would have gone, maybe it's too much. Yes, did
Speaker 1: you did you like the Audrey Tau Did you like
Speaker 1: the Oh?
Speaker 4: You know, she's phenomenal. That's I think one of the
Speaker 4: things I love is an actor who's not in many films,
Speaker 4: or like, not in many films that I've seen. And
Speaker 4: so that way, it's just immediately believable, you know, because
Speaker 4: the only time I've ever seen these people are you know,
Speaker 4: in the scenes they're currently in, you know, whereas like
Speaker 4: you know, obviously these people are phenomenal actors, but you know,
Speaker 4: Tom Hanks is an element of like, okay, I need
Speaker 4: to forget that it is Tom Hanks, you know, like
Speaker 4: you know, it was great when he did the Elvis
Speaker 4: film and he put on a big fat suit and
Speaker 4: then did the craziest woe you've ever heard, and I looked.
Speaker 4: I looked it up after the colonel did not sound
Speaker 4: like that at all. He spoke with like a like
Speaker 4: an American, like a normal enough American accent, and just
Speaker 4: Tom Hanks decided to go full noise. It's like the
Speaker 4: weird pseudo Dutch choice. It was the first film I
Speaker 4: saw which made me go, was Tom Hanks not a
Speaker 4: good actor?
Speaker 1: Well? I can't. I eventually went along with it, but
Speaker 1: I'm surprised. I would have thought, oh, he's nailed the accent, Like, yes,
Speaker 1: it's has a strange accent that he does. I assumed, oh,
Speaker 1: he's he's.
Speaker 4: This is the real guy. He must sound like that.
Speaker 4: But I watched like a sixty minutes interview with him.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, he's just talking normally.
Speaker 4: Just but yes, I did. I remember loving that in
Speaker 4: the Elvis film when he's protesting and he's trying to sing.
Speaker 4: He wants to sing one. He wants to sing his
Speaker 4: songs and not some Christmas numbers. And I remember and
Speaker 4: Tom Hanks is walking around the office, walking around the
Speaker 4: studio going, oh, you know, Elvis must play. Here comes
Speaker 4: Santy clause.
Speaker 1: Such such a ratic. I love that. That is great.
Speaker 1: Here is some fun facts before we before we wrap
Speaker 1: things up. Audrey to Taw does not know how to
Speaker 1: skim stones. There you go. Oh that was s f
Speaker 1: X special Effects. The name prank I did mention it was.
Speaker 1: It was an idea that was used in a campaign
Speaker 1: for the Internet mark internet marketing campaign. I was actually
Speaker 1: kind of slightly increased. They came after the film, but
Speaker 1: it was based on this idea that there was a
Speaker 1: group called the Gnome Liberation Front and they were convicted
Speaker 1: of stealing over one hundred and fifty names across the
Speaker 1: UK and France, and the leader of the group was
Speaker 1: actually convicted in the court court in France. So that
Speaker 1: that kind of played a part in Colt come on,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, bloke, PC gone man body courts anything
Speaker 1: of its probably paid for some probably sentimental gift that
Speaker 1: received probably passed on. Armily's name was actually given Emily's
Speaker 1: dad's name was given to the cafe the two Windmills.
Speaker 1: I think it's called where it was promptly stolen. It's true.
Speaker 1: There's a character Lucian. He's like the simple fellow who
Speaker 1: works at the grocery store and he that's painting with
Speaker 1: the man of glass or a glass man. He you
Speaker 1: may that as often had his hand. I think it
Speaker 1: is his right hand in his jacket. He's paralyzed. His
Speaker 1: a comedian in France, and he's his right hand is paralyzed.
Speaker 1: So that's that.
Speaker 4: Is that so I was just trying to hide his
Speaker 4: own real injury.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I don't think it comes up in as
Speaker 1: part of the story or anything.
Speaker 4: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I know that I could see this is not really
Speaker 1: a fact, but just a little note that Armie and
Speaker 1: Nino barely share any dialogue together. There's the phone call,
Speaker 1: and then there's a very brief exchange in cafe when
Speaker 1: she's riding behind him. For you, at that point you'll
Speaker 1: probably think, just say something to him.
Speaker 4: So she keeps trying to hide from her and.
Speaker 1: She yeah so and then later on she's water and
Speaker 1: she melts. So that's the lesson kids. That is the
Speaker 1: lesson ray O Leary. This podcast comes with homework. You've
Speaker 1: done it above and beyond. You've watched a movie with subtitles.
Speaker 1: You don't quite go into the Jane Kennedy watching three
Speaker 1: Lord of the Rings films director's cut eleven and a
Speaker 1: half hours, you don't quite make into that. It's then group.
Speaker 1: But I appreciate anyone.
Speaker 4: Thank you. I'm looking forward to doing your book podcast.
Speaker 4: Recommend a film for me to read.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, read Chanta Am by Wednesday, please right, that
Speaker 1: would be great. My congratulations. I've love watching the Rise
Speaker 1: of ray Leary, both on your appearances of have you
Speaker 1: paying attention, but also seeing you gig around town, around
Speaker 1: the country, Edinburgh, your show, which is one of the
Speaker 1: great titles.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 1: I love it so much. Your laughter is only making
Speaker 1: me stronger.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: And just how was Edinburgh?
Speaker 3: It was?
Speaker 4: It was good, it was good. It's an intense experience,
Speaker 4: it was. But I was very lucky, you know, like
Speaker 4: I had a very you know, good run. I was
Speaker 4: in a university classroom. Yes, yes, it's every I never
Speaker 4: went into a single venue there and was like, oh
Speaker 4: this venue is the right temperature, this is this is
Speaker 4: this is perfect for performing comedy and like, you know,
Speaker 4: you hear this, you know, I think like let them in.
Speaker 4: You hear the stories like they would always chill the
Speaker 4: audience to make them as old as possible. Whereas, yeah,
Speaker 4: every room in Edinburgh is the exact opposite. You're like, oh,
Speaker 4: I'm kind of a sauna here and it's like appressively hot,
Speaker 4: and you know, some people are performing in like caves
Speaker 4: and you know, underground and it's just it's such a
Speaker 4: wild like you think you'd be braced for it from
Speaker 4: doing Melbourne Comedy Festival, but in Edinburgh, you know, the
Speaker 4: show start at ten am, you know, you know you're
Speaker 4: doing a gig at noon and the place is packed
Speaker 4: and you know, so it's just a saying in the
Speaker 4: sane time. But I'm you know, I'd love to go.
Speaker 4: I'm you know, I'm hoping I'll go back again.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure you will. So when you go over,
Speaker 1: do you think as your crowd found you online, have
Speaker 1: they found through task Master? Where do you? Where do you?
Speaker 4: I had one woman tell me that she came and
Speaker 4: watched because she heard me on a podcast. So I'm
Speaker 4: looking forward to another single ticket sales from No but yeah,
Speaker 4: like there were people, you know, there were like a
Speaker 4: lot of Australians and Kiwis had come because they're you know,
Speaker 4: aware of who I am. So that was nice. And
Speaker 4: then yeah, task Master, the task Master brand is so strong.
Speaker 4: I'm so lucky to have been a part of you
Speaker 4: know that that series where yeah, people knew me from
Speaker 4: that and and you were coming to the show. And
Speaker 4: then also I think some people, you know, there's an
Speaker 4: element of just taking a chance on someone like I had.
Speaker 4: I had a show canceled because of a power cut,
Speaker 4: and I'm bumped into some of the audience beforehand, and
Speaker 4: I was talking to a woman and she was Irish,
Speaker 4: and she's going, oh, you're not Irish, and she just
Speaker 4: took a punt based on.
Speaker 1: But I think, so when you're looking at you're going
Speaker 1: to take a punt, you're looking at somebody. Often you're
Speaker 1: looking at posters, and I think, and I think your
Speaker 1: post simple image. But you know, if people hadn't seen you,
Speaker 1: you know, the suit and the and the and the hair,
Speaker 1: and it's just it's it's quite a package. And couple
Speaker 1: that with your laughter. He's only making me stronger as
Speaker 1: a as a show title, I think, yeah, it's not
Speaker 1: just about taking a punt really nearly. I think I
Speaker 1: think I made a decision years ago to make my
Speaker 1: posters as funny as you know I could think of,
Speaker 1: because there was a stage where a lot of comedians
Speaker 1: were making their posters look like rock stars and moody
Speaker 1: and sexy. That's got no place in comedy for mine.
Speaker 1: But mate, thank you so much. Keep kicking goals. And
Speaker 1: it's been a pleasure hanging out.
Speaker 4: No, thank you so much as an honor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a great. Ray O'Leary, what a man.
Speaker 1: And he told me afterwards, now his favorite film Mercy.
Speaker 1: Oh he's still here. Usually I wait for the guests
Speaker 1: to leave the studio, but Ray's still here. What do
Speaker 1: you think of the podcast? Right you perform?
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, I've got some notes I would I
Speaker 4: would describe it as aimless.
Speaker 1: We have many many films. I was expecting tar like
Speaker 1: you said, they come up on the spotless mine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm so glad you brought that up. I got
Speaker 4: to watch that again.
Speaker 3: It is.
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Speaker 1: he liked Amilee a little bit more than he did
Speaker 1: when he arrived.
Speaker 4: Yes, at one hundred percent, you've convinced me this is
Speaker 4: is the new tar If I's talking about it.
Speaker 1: We're going to different a message. Lee's playing on Fox
Speaker 1: Style Thank you again once more, mate, And next week
Speaker 1: on the show, a comedian who has been kicking massive
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Speaker 1: on thank God You're Here. I was gonna say the
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Speaker 1: It was hilarious on it. I've performed with Franking on
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