WEBVTT - Scarily Honest Relationship Advice. Find Out What Men Are Really Thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, and welcome to a very special episode of Outspoken.

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<v Speaker 1>You're joined by journalists Sophie Kate and Amy Torbert.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever wanted to know what men really think?

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<v Speaker 1>In a modern world of dating apps, social media, etiquette

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<v Speaker 1>and mixed messages, We want to help you navigate the

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<v Speaker 1>harsh dating world. We're actually feeling a bit nostalgic today.

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<v Speaker 1>Growing up, everyone would remember Dolly Doctor's sealed section was

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<v Speaker 1>where you'd go for dating advice. Nothing was too embarrassing

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<v Speaker 1>or too cringey. We want to move Dolly Doctor into

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen with our very own doctor X.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome Doctor X.

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<v Speaker 3>Good evening, ladies. I've got three of you here. That's

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<v Speaker 3>a man's dream.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you for joining us, and we will be

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<v Speaker 1>keeping your identity anonymous because we want you to be

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<v Speaker 1>as open as possible. And we've chosen you because we

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<v Speaker 1>think you give the best dating advice.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if you want the truth and you think it's

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<v Speaker 3>the best dating advice, then I'll take that, but I'll

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<v Speaker 3>give you the truth. I'm not going to hold anything back.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>So we've taken to social media to find out what

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<v Speaker 1>you really want to know but are too embarrassed.

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<v Speaker 2>To ask.

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<v Speaker 1>So the first question, Dear doctor X, my boyfriend and

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<v Speaker 1>I have been together for a year. Ever since we

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<v Speaker 1>started dating, he has continued to like other girls photos

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram. I don't mind him liking his female friend's photos,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've stumbled across him liking pictures of girls I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. In some of the photos, the girls are

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<v Speaker 1>wearing bikinis or a scantily dressed Why do men do this?

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<v Speaker 1>And should I be worried? And that's from Caitlin from Queensland.

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<v Speaker 3>Caitlin, very good question. I don't think there's anything wrong

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<v Speaker 3>with it one year. Yeah, you haven't been around long

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<v Speaker 3>enough yet. I think I think he's still kind of

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<v Speaker 3>hedging his bets. To be totally honest, he still wants

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<v Speaker 3>to see what's out there, and I think it's a

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<v Speaker 3>normal thing for guys just to look at other women.

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<v Speaker 3>There's nothing wrong with it as long as you reap

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<v Speaker 3>the rewards, if you know what I'm saying. So, I think,

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<v Speaker 3>in answer to your question, I wouldn't worry about it

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<v Speaker 3>too much. Maybe if he's still doing it next year,

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<v Speaker 3>then i'd think of changing boyfriends.

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<v Speaker 1>I personally think that, yeah, if he's into you, he

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be liking those photos. As you say, from a

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<v Speaker 1>woman's perspective, I would think that would show he's maybe

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<v Speaker 1>unless it's unless it's a friend of his photos, that's

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<v Speaker 1>fine to like it. But if you're liking bikini photos,

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<v Speaker 1>it shows you a little bit uninterested. I would think

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't put up with it.

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<v Speaker 3>So you wouldn't like the idea of looking at bikini photo.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't like the idea of my boyfriend liking other

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<v Speaker 1>girls photos.

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<v Speaker 3>In bikini Do you feel threatened?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I would feel threatened because I was be thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>but why is he liking this if he's interested in me.

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<v Speaker 3>But he doesn't know them?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, if he doesn't know them?

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<v Speaker 3>Does she's saying he knows these guys?

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<v Speaker 2>I took it that she knew that.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't, you know, like supermodels, they were just normal girls.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but does he know them?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, she said that she doesn't know them, So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>wondering if that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if he knows them, then that maybe changes things.

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<v Speaker 3>If he knows them, then it's a little bit weird.

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<v Speaker 3>But maybe he has't got what's his intentions? Is he

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<v Speaker 3>just looking for the hell of looking at the attractive

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<v Speaker 3>girl in a bikini, which guy doesn't like, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>even girls like looking at attractive women and bikinis.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I like to know.

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<v Speaker 1>If he's open to publicly liking this girl's photo and

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps commenting what is going on behind closed doors in

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<v Speaker 1>the is he sliding into a few girls dms that

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<v Speaker 1>the girlfriend doesn't know about as well?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't know, I think maybe being a bit

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<v Speaker 3>too precious. But having said that, if it was the

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<v Speaker 3>other way around, you know, and she was looking at

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<v Speaker 3>guys in nice tight little bathers the speedo's, maybe he

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<v Speaker 3>might be a bit jealous. Maybe he's trying to make

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<v Speaker 3>it jealous. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting though, because I think the difference is back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day, men would look at, you know, these

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of photos in magazines, but there was no way

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<v Speaker 1>of actually contact the girls, whereas in Instagram you can

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<v Speaker 1>find a hot girl and then directly message her. So

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<v Speaker 1>wondering if that's sort of a part of it, that

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<v Speaker 1>she's a bit worried that the you know, he might

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<v Speaker 1>not just be looking at these photos but then trying

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<v Speaker 1>to pursue the girl. I don't know. I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>think when you see men liking all these sort of

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<v Speaker 1>bikini photos that look a bit sleep.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, how many of them what you're saying, like hundreds

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<v Speaker 3>of them?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if I was looking, say, I met a guy

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<v Speaker 1>and I saw that all these bikini photos kept popping

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<v Speaker 1>up of him liking, I think maybe he was a.

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<v Speaker 2>Bit of a player, a bit of a pig.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say that actually happened to me. I

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<v Speaker 1>was dating some guy and on the Instagram, I kept

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<v Speaker 1>you can see what people like follow a like, and

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed that he kept liking girls photos in bikinis,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was sort of like, what I mean, we

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<v Speaker 1>weren't even exclusive or anything like that, but that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of made me feel like he was a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a perv. Does that make you sound a bit crazy, though,

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<v Speaker 1>that you're not even going out with this guy and

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<v Speaker 1>you're already stalking his instagram for you? No, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>actually stalking him, but it just kept popping up, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is a bit weird. That section

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't pop up. You have to you're actively looking for

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<v Speaker 1>that section. No, but I wasn't actively seeking out what

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<v Speaker 1>he was liking. It. I just noticed there was a

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<v Speaker 1>trend about it.

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<v Speaker 3>So what did you think of him? How were you thinking?

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<v Speaker 3>Were you feeling threatened? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Well they were kind of girls with massive boobs, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, I don't have massive boobs.

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<v Speaker 2>So and it wasn't just models, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like random girls in Adelaide. So I was like, hmm, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>In nnswer two ways? Was it Caitlin? Was it from Queensland?

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<v Speaker 3>I'd say to Caitlin, if you really feel threatened and

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<v Speaker 3>he keeps looking at these girls, maybe it's time to

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<v Speaker 3>get a new boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>Moving on to the next question. It's from Ella from Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 1>Dear doctor X. The other night, my boyfriend revealed to

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<v Speaker 1>me he has slept with that twenty six women. We

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<v Speaker 1>are both in our mid twenties and began dating two

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. Do men usually lie about their numbers?

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<v Speaker 3>That's another good question. Yeah, I think some guys do.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's sometimes safer to lie about how many

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<v Speaker 3>year because and I think we've all been there. Tell

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<v Speaker 3>me the truth, I really, I don't mind. I won't

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<v Speaker 3>I won't care. And then you do tell them the truth,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they'll hold it against you forever. So I reckon.

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<v Speaker 3>It's best either to say you can't remember, that's me,

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<v Speaker 3>or maybe just say two or three, because that way,

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<v Speaker 3>there the girls will be more sort of satisfied. Though

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<v Speaker 3>there's only a couple, so I feel more special because

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<v Speaker 3>for whatever reason, I mean, you expect a guy to

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<v Speaker 3>have a lot of women more than women to have

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of guys. That's how us blokes think anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>So you either tell them you can't remember, or just

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<v Speaker 3>make it minimal, like a couple of women.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a general rule of thumb that guys have

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<v Speaker 2>the women?

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<v Speaker 1>There's some rule that, you know, divide it by three

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<v Speaker 1>whatever they say.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't know really, because I mean you can

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<v Speaker 3>ask any guy you know and ask them, and many

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<v Speaker 3>women they've had. I'll be surprised if they know, unless

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<v Speaker 3>they're dead shits and they don't and they're not very

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<v Speaker 3>good looking and they've never had that many women. That's different.

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<v Speaker 3>But otherwise most blokes will not remember, and to us

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't really matter. It's like, at the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the day, you're with the are now, so who cares

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<v Speaker 3>what was in the past. That was just a bit

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<v Speaker 3>of practice.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a number that would put you off if

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<v Speaker 1>you found out someone you were dating, like a girl

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<v Speaker 1>had slept with you know, fifty guys. Is there a

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<v Speaker 1>number that you would cap it at that you'd think

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<v Speaker 1>not interested anymore?

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<v Speaker 3>What depends how she old she was. If she was

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<v Speaker 3>twenty one and she had fifty blokes, I think that

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<v Speaker 3>would worry me a tad. What then you do your sums?

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's twice a day. Yeah, I suppose that

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<v Speaker 3>you know guys. I think most guys would prefer women

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<v Speaker 3>to add that many guys. If you come up with

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<v Speaker 3>a high total, then then there is a kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a red flag, which is I didn't make the rules.

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<v Speaker 3>That just seems to be the case.

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<v Speaker 1>I dated a guy and he was only twenty at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, so this was back in the day, and

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<v Speaker 1>he told me that he and his friends would keep

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<v Speaker 1>a list and write down every girl that they'd slept with.

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<v Speaker 1>And his list was up to twenty three and he

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<v Speaker 1>was only twenty years old and lost his Begitta. Not

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<v Speaker 1>a bad effort when he was eighteen. I actually think

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<v Speaker 1>he was over over selling how many girls he'd actually

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<v Speaker 1>been with to sound more impressive.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right, when you're younger, you kind of you do

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<v Speaker 3>keep count as you're growing up past puberty, and you

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<v Speaker 3>know it's a challenge to see how many girls you

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<v Speaker 3>can get. So yeah, yeah, I think I most probably

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<v Speaker 3>was the same. But then you get to a point

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<v Speaker 3>where you just don't worry about it anymore. It's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of you don't have to impress anyone. But yep, I

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<v Speaker 3>believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So our next question is from and from Sydney.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you, doctor X?

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<v Speaker 1>I have a question about online dating. I swipe right,

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<v Speaker 1>we match, I text first. He never replies. This is

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<v Speaker 1>happening more and more frequently to me and many of

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<v Speaker 1>my single gal pals. Why we are catchers? But why

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<v Speaker 1>swipe bright if you don't think we fit your criteria?

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<v Speaker 1>Why inflate your ego by gaming matches and not talking

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<v Speaker 1>to them? So why do you think these guys aren't talking?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know they what depends what they look like,

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<v Speaker 3>because let's face it looks first impressions is what they

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<v Speaker 3>look like.

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<v Speaker 1>So she's talking about the dating app Tinder, So that's

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<v Speaker 1>based on what people look like. So you can either

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<v Speaker 1>go yes, yes, yes, or no.

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<v Speaker 2>Well not to butt in here, doctor X.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've heard it from a lot of guys that

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<v Speaker 1>they all just swipe right on basically every girl that

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<v Speaker 1>pops up in their feed, So they're just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>hedging their bets.

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<v Speaker 2>At who's gonna law of average.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so they probably match with someone and they weren't

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<v Speaker 1>particularly interested in matching with them, so they're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to pursue the conversation any further.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's an interesting one, and I've never used Tinder thankfully. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's there is a need for it, There's

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<v Speaker 3>no doubt about it because a lot of single people

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<v Speaker 3>out there, a lot of women especially, don't like going

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<v Speaker 3>to bars and finding their perfect match for the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of their life at a pub while he's pissed. But

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<v Speaker 3>at the same time, I think this is for blokes.

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<v Speaker 3>They mostly use it as a thing to just meet

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<v Speaker 3>girls to have sex with. Whether they're serious. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 3>there are some that are serious about wanting to meet

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<v Speaker 3>the right woman on here, and likewise women would like

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<v Speaker 3>to meet the right man. But why they swipe right

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know, Like you say, maybe they just

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<v Speaker 3>hedging their bets. The more that you swipe right, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>there's a good charge you can end up with the jackpot.

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<v Speaker 3>Who knows but good luck to just keep swiping right,

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<v Speaker 3>I reckon.

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<v Speaker 1>So moving on to the next letter, it reads, Dear

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<v Speaker 1>doctor X. At the start of the year, I found

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<v Speaker 1>out my boyfriend was cheating on me. He admitted to

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<v Speaker 1>me that he slept with another girl on a drunken

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<v Speaker 1>night out. The girl in question is quite plain looking.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people have told have been shocked as

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<v Speaker 1>they say, I'm a lot better looking than her. Whye

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<v Speaker 1>a man cheat with girls who aren't as good looking

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<v Speaker 1>as their partners. And that's from Lizzie from Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 3>Because they're blokes, I think that's I mean, that's not

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<v Speaker 3>the first time I've ever heard that little story, I

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<v Speaker 3>can tell you, especially when they have a few drinks.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes having a few drinks as an excuse, mind you.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't think it's for blokes. I mean, as

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<v Speaker 3>long as she's you know, hasn't got a leash on her,

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<v Speaker 3>and she's not ugly, I think I don't think guys

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<v Speaker 3>really care. I think there as long as it's another woman,

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<v Speaker 3>that's I'm afraid to say that it's just another woman

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<v Speaker 3>and it's just sex, so he might still love the

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<v Speaker 3>girl he's with. But that was just a little fling,

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<v Speaker 3>So it's got nothing to do with the looks. Unless

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<v Speaker 3>it's a real ugly looking woman, then that's a different ballgame.

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<v Speaker 2>So do you think it's it is the excitement of

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<v Speaker 2>someone new?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, see where hunters men are hunters, So not that

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<v Speaker 3>they all go looking for women or for other women

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<v Speaker 3>or other sex. Some do and there's some that just

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<v Speaker 3>lands on their lap and then they do it. Not everybody,

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<v Speaker 3>but most of them would.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that this guy in question truly loves

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<v Speaker 1>his girlfriend? If he's going off and sleeping with someone else.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he could still love her. I'm not saying that

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<v Speaker 3>it's just because he's sleeping with someone else doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 3>he doesn't love his girlfriend. That's not the case. But

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<v Speaker 3>there could be a situation where he doesn't love her

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<v Speaker 3>that's why he's sleeping. So it's not everybody's the same.

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<v Speaker 3>He still could love his girlfriend, but he just wants

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<v Speaker 3>to sort of have something different. See.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of women who would be listening

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<v Speaker 1>to your advice they would be confused because I would

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<v Speaker 1>think if my boyfriend was sleeping with someone else, that

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<v Speaker 1>he wouldn't love me.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>I find it I think that's probably a hard ideology

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<v Speaker 1>for women to hear. Do you think it's just because

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<v Speaker 1>men and women are different in that respect?

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<v Speaker 3>One hundred percent different? And I know of women, many

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<v Speaker 3>women they wouldn't have sex with someone unless they love

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<v Speaker 3>them and they have feelings. Guys don't have to be

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<v Speaker 3>like that because to guys it's just physical. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>they could go past the feelings and lovey and all

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<v Speaker 3>that sort of stuff because it's just physical. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we're completely different, and I can understand why women would

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<v Speaker 3>think that.

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<v Speaker 1>The next letter says, Hi, doctor X, I'm so confused.

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<v Speaker 1>I met a guy two months ago through a mutual friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything was going great. We'd message all the time. He'd

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<v Speaker 1>seemed really interested in getting to know me. We spoke

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<v Speaker 1>about our families and our goals for the future. Out

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<v Speaker 1>of nowhere, he started to ghost me. He's never free

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<v Speaker 1>to catch up anymore, and he started to ignore my texts.

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<v Speaker 1>Why when everything seems to be going great to men

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<v Speaker 1>get cold feet?

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking from experience, he didn't want to full on relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>It took him a while to work out that. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>she could be a lovely girl, and he could see that,

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<v Speaker 3>and he thought, well, I I'm not ready to settle

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<v Speaker 3>down just yet, so maybe I'll pull back because I

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<v Speaker 3>still want to be single. That's happened to me, it's

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<v Speaker 3>happened to people I know where you're just not ready

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<v Speaker 3>for a commitment. Maybe it started off he just wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to have a fling with this girl, and then he

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<v Speaker 3>realized that it's maybe more than a fling. She's a

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<v Speaker 3>nice girl. I could, you know, like, I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to start a relationship as I don't want to hurt

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<v Speaker 3>this girl. So maybe that's why I got cold feet.

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<v Speaker 1>See I think that's really good advice for women to hear,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think a lot of the time women go, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it must be me, I've done something wrong. But I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that's good to hear that you know you're

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<v Speaker 1>this person, You're probably an amazing girl, but this guy

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<v Speaker 1>is just not looking for something right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's maybe why. And I could speak from experience

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<v Speaker 3>in the past that there were some amazing girls, there

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<v Speaker 3>were lovely girls, that it wasn't them, it was me,

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<v Speaker 3>And I felt like I wasn't ready to lead them

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<v Speaker 3>in the wrong direction when I knew there wasn't In

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<v Speaker 3>my mind, if there wasn't going to be a relationship

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<v Speaker 3>because I wasn't ready. So yeah, those girls that are

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<v Speaker 3>in that situation, it's not always you. Hopefully the guy

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<v Speaker 3>does the right thing, and maybe he sometimes is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be cruel to be kind, he's doing that for

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<v Speaker 3>your own good most probably.

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<v Speaker 1>So the next question is from back from Adelaide, says

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<v Speaker 1>dear dr X, I've started dating a guy I can

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<v Speaker 1>see a future with. I wanted to know how long

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<v Speaker 1>I should make him wait before we sleep together. In

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<v Speaker 1>the past, I've slept with guys too early into a

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<v Speaker 1>relationship and it's made them feel like they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to put a title on our relationship. I really want

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<v Speaker 1>to show him I'm girlfriend material.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you think?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, Now, this is a tough one. There's no easy

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<v Speaker 3>answer for this question, because it can guy. Are the

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<v Speaker 3>two ways it can guy. Either if you have sex

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<v Speaker 3>with him too early, maybe that's all he wanted and

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<v Speaker 3>he's out of there. And if you wait too he's

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<v Speaker 3>waiting that long that he's out of there as well,

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<v Speaker 3>or he wants to have it with somebody else. So

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<v Speaker 3>this is something that everybody's different and you've got to

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<v Speaker 3>just judge it individually. On that individual person and know

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<v Speaker 3>that person very well to think, well, if he loves

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<v Speaker 3>me enough, he'll wait. But my advice to you is

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<v Speaker 3>you've got to work out this person's personality. I believe

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<v Speaker 3>if he doesn't want to wait for you to have sex,

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<v Speaker 3>well you don't want him anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny that you say that because there's another podcast

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<v Speaker 1>I really enjoy listening to called Love etc. And they

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<v Speaker 1>were saying, oh, you know, just go for it, like

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't really matter if if you do sleep with

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<v Speaker 1>the guy and then he rejects you, then at least

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But I kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>Think, well, no, I wouldn't be happy with that because

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<v Speaker 1>then they've got what they wanted and then keeped you

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<v Speaker 1>to the curb. I don't think it's how long are

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<v Speaker 1>they talking, Okay, like a few days or something. They

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<v Speaker 1>were talking like, if you want to hook up like

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<v Speaker 1>one night stand, then go for it, And to me,

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<v Speaker 1>that's I don't think that's good advice at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely bad advice. It's the worst bullshit I've ever heard,

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<v Speaker 3>to be totally honest. You know you're going to feel

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<v Speaker 3>sorry for yourself and bad for yourself if you just

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<v Speaker 3>have sex with the sky let's say even after the

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<v Speaker 3>second night. If he puts pressure on you, you know

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<v Speaker 3>that's what he wants. If he puts pressure on you

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<v Speaker 3>to have sex early, you know that that's what all

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<v Speaker 3>he wants. Is that because he'll be gone the next week.

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<v Speaker 3>So bad advice.

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<v Speaker 1>Just on that topic. What do you think about kissing

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<v Speaker 1>on the first date?

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<v Speaker 3>Then, yeah, that's another one that's sort of horses for courses.

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<v Speaker 3>You're really going to play it by ear. If there's

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<v Speaker 3>chemistry there, go for it. I think, go for it

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<v Speaker 3>because you can feel how much you want this person

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<v Speaker 3>if there is chemistry. If there's no chemistry there, then

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<v Speaker 3>just pull back. That could still come. It doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 3>there won't be. But sometimes you know, you can meet

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<v Speaker 3>someone straight away and straight away this chemistry you know. Yep,

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<v Speaker 3>all you want to do is just kiss him. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to play that one by ear as well.

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<v Speaker 3>But I haven't got a problem with kissing him on

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<v Speaker 3>the first date, no problem at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's nothing wrong with it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so it's a bit awkward when there's this kiss

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<v Speaker 1>lingering over your head and it's almost like a wee friend, do.

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<v Speaker 2>You like me?

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<v Speaker 1>It's ye it's always a bit awkward when you don't

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<v Speaker 1>kind of get that kiss out the way.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you're only going to kiss the person, and if

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<v Speaker 3>one of two things, if you really like them and

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<v Speaker 3>you want a relationship, or you're going to kiss them

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<v Speaker 3>because you want to get into bed with him, that's

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<v Speaker 3>the only two reasons. Otherwise you're just gonna give me

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<v Speaker 3>a peck on the chicken sagod night.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually had this experience before where there was no

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<v Speaker 1>kiss on the first day. It was a good date.

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<v Speaker 1>We both actually lost our verses from talking so much.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a really good friendship there. But it stretched

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<v Speaker 1>out to date number four and it was so the day.

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<v Speaker 1>The date before was a movie date, so you're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of waiting for the guy to make a move and

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<v Speaker 1>it was all but I don't think it's just up

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<v Speaker 1>to him to make a move. I feel like with

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<v Speaker 1>you in particular, sometimes you give this really bad body

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<v Speaker 1>language where it's kind of like back off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, it was just awkward.

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<v Speaker 1>It got to the point where it was like the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth day and it finally happened, But it just we'd

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<v Speaker 1>all spoken about it so much that it was just

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<v Speaker 1>it was awkward, and there was just nothing there.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what this reminds me?

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that Seinfeld episode where Jerry couldn't He said

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<v Speaker 1>he couldn't sleep with this girl because he respected her

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<v Speaker 1>too much.

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<v Speaker 2>And he said, yeah, he.

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<v Speaker 1>Said, the conversation was just so good there was no

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<v Speaker 1>time to pause and make a move. It sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>the same situation.

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<v Speaker 3>Well it is, and I can see that. But I'm

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<v Speaker 3>with Sophie. There's nothing wrong with you making a move,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. I think in the twenty first century especially,

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<v Speaker 3>there's nothing wrong with the girl making the first move

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<v Speaker 3>if she's sure she wants to kiss this guy. Because

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<v Speaker 3>most guys, most guys, not all guys, would want to

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<v Speaker 3>kiss a pretty woman. There's no doubt about that. But

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<v Speaker 3>obviously there was no chemistry from the start. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>obviously you're always going to be good friends. But otherwise

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<v Speaker 3>you would have you both would have kissed, and you

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't have you know, we'd like plunges. You wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 3>let go for an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that awkwardness wouldn't be there if you

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<v Speaker 1>did have a good connection with someone. Yeah, And I think,

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<v Speaker 1>reflecting back on it, it was just you just knew

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<v Speaker 1>that we were good friends got along, but there was

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<v Speaker 1>just nothing there. And yeah, as he said, it's pretty obvious.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it can be good to get it

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<v Speaker 1>out of the way because then at least, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know what I keep getting in my head?

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<v Speaker 1>You know that Kath and Kim episode where it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>no kiss now.

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<v Speaker 2>Coach, no kiss, no coach.

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<v Speaker 1>The next question is about a kiss of a different kind.

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<v Speaker 1>So it says, dear doctor X, I recently found out

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<v Speaker 1>my boyfriend kissed another girl when he was away on

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<v Speaker 1>a work trip. He told me it was a mistake

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<v Speaker 1>and it wouldn't happen again. Should I give him a

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<v Speaker 1>second chance?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Now that is from Stephanie for Melbourne, So you do

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<v Speaker 1>think he should have a.

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<v Speaker 3>Second Tephany, give him one more chance? He I mean

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<v Speaker 3>a kiss again. All the circumstances that surround it makes

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<v Speaker 3>a big difference. But I think if you, yeah, everyone

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<v Speaker 3>makes a mistake. Maybe in that moment something happened. Did

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<v Speaker 3>they have sex or just a kiss?

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<v Speaker 2>Well she's saying just kiss.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if it was just a kiss, I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>give him a chance. I mean it might have just

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<v Speaker 3>been a quick kiss or was it one of those

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<v Speaker 3>full on don't let go type kiss.

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<v Speaker 1>If he's already been dishonest, you know, in the first place,

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<v Speaker 1>and probably has been caught out with the kiss. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>there has been more that's happened that he's not being

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<v Speaker 1>honest about.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know, I suppose so, doctor X.

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<v Speaker 1>Would it be different if this guy had actually slept

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<v Speaker 1>with the girl instead of just kissing it?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it changes things for sure. But as we know,

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<v Speaker 3>there are some couples that forgive give them another chance,

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<v Speaker 3>even under those circumstances, and then there's others that no chances.

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<v Speaker 3>You've done the wrong thing, you're out of here. So again,

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<v Speaker 3>need to know more information, need to have more ideas

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<v Speaker 3>of how this all started, what happened. Was he drunk

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<v Speaker 3>or was she drunk? Maybe some people say it's not

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<v Speaker 3>an excuse, but people do make mistakes.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it would make a difference if, say,

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<v Speaker 1>he knows the girl compared to if it's a random girl.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a very good question. I think some women

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<v Speaker 3>would most probably say I'd rather be a random girl

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<v Speaker 3>than know the girl. I think that is a huge difference,

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<v Speaker 3>especially if it's your girlfriend. Then that one there is

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<v Speaker 3>that one there is getting on a really sticky ground.

0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:50.040
<v Speaker 3>If it's your girlfriend that he had sex with, I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's a no note of going with your girlfriend's girlfriends,

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<v Speaker 3>if you know what I mean. I think that's definitely

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<v Speaker 3>a you don't go in that area because I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think there's any excuses for that.

0:21:04.440 --> 0:21:06.880
<v Speaker 2>But that's a bigger boundary it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Namely because and you can understand how it happens, because

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<v Speaker 3>they see so much of each other. Then you start

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<v Speaker 3>to grow on them as well. And if they're attractive,

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<v Speaker 3>then you're only human. But it's still not an excuse,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think it's a no no that one there.

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<v Speaker 3>But if it was just a stranger, I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit different. That's what I think.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it's also different if he's been honest

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<v Speaker 1>about it, like if he's tried to deceive the girlfriend

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<v Speaker 1>and lie about it, is it different? Or if he's

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<v Speaker 1>actually come to him said I've made a genuine mistake.

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<v Speaker 3>Never admit to it. Never admit to it, because what

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<v Speaker 3>you don't know will not hurt you unless you've been

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<v Speaker 3>found out. That's a different ballgame. But if you admit it,

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<v Speaker 3>that is looking for trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>See if my boyfriend went out and kissed another girl,

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<v Speaker 1>I would dump his r so quickly just a kiss, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think it's so disrespectful and it should have

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<v Speaker 1>shows what their motives are, as in if I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't go out and do that if I really

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<v Speaker 1>cared about somebody.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think that what about if he's intoxicated, because

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<v Speaker 3>people do things they don't normally do when they're drunk.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that an excuse or not?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really. I think that sometimes it's a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a cop out. I think you'd have to be there.

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<v Speaker 1>And if his friends were like he just didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>what he was doing, he was paralytic and he was

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<v Speaker 1>you know, oh, please forgive me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd never do this. I don't know. But I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>of the mind that once a cheater, always a cheater.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, it depends if it's really early on

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<v Speaker 1>in the relationship as well. I'm not sure when this happened,

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<v Speaker 1>but you kind of think where you know, that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of what the relationship's going to be like. If this

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<v Speaker 1>guy's kissing other girls already.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but you're saying kissing other girls, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 3>one person here. If your boyfriend kissed one person that's

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<v Speaker 3>all he's ever done. You would actually go to the

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<v Speaker 3>extreme of dumping him just because he kissed one girl.

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<v Speaker 3>That's pretty extreme. Well, he's made a mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>It would depend, it would depend what he said, and

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<v Speaker 1>if I really loved him, I might be stupid enough

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<v Speaker 1>to forgive him. But I think my initial I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I could get over that because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it's just so dishonest. I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of girls would keep it in the back of their

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<v Speaker 1>mind as well and not be able to trust them

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<v Speaker 1>when they went out on Further.

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<v Speaker 3>We're talking about a kiss, not having sex. A kiss,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's okay, you shouldn't do it, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>really not that bad like having sex.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously it's not as bad as that. There's

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<v Speaker 1>obviously scales of badness, but I think it's still as

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<v Speaker 1>a betrayal of someone's trust. If you're out on a

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<v Speaker 1>work trip and the first thing you do is go

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<v Speaker 1>on hook up with another girl, to be honest, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's wrong, but I think you got It's easy

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<v Speaker 1>to sit here and talk about. Oh, I definitely dump him,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think when in the situation and you love

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<v Speaker 1>the person, you built a life with them, then it

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<v Speaker 1>would be a lot easier to forgive a kiss as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to you having I think I think it's easy

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<v Speaker 1>to say now. I think you can forgive it, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's always going to be at the back of your mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we should move on to the quick fire

0:23:57.440 --> 0:24:02.480
<v Speaker 1>round for Doctor X is quite an interesting one. So

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<v Speaker 1>when do you think it's acceptable to fight in front

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<v Speaker 1>of your partner?

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<v Speaker 3>I reckon you should do it within the first week.

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<v Speaker 1>What about So if a girl farted in front of

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<v Speaker 1>you in the first week, would you be impressed or

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<v Speaker 1>a bit disturbed?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I would be okay, because you know, sometimes you

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<v Speaker 3>go out like you know you what depends how long

0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:20.280
<v Speaker 3>you've been out with this person, and you hold it in.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't want to and you're fucking dying to get

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<v Speaker 3>out of there. As soon as you're getting that car away,

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<v Speaker 3>she goes and that car is dangerous all of a

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<v Speaker 3>sudden because it doesn't smell very nice. So I reckon,

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<v Speaker 3>the sooner you get that out of the way, the better,

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<v Speaker 3>so you both feel comfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never farted in front of dale.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's ridiculous. That is ridiculous.

0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:41.800
<v Speaker 1>We heard of someone someone we know has never farted

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<v Speaker 1>in front of their girlfriend of seven years a boy nahn.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, I find that very very hard to believe. There's

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<v Speaker 3>nothing that's just the human beings do that. That's what

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:53.560
<v Speaker 3>everybody does it, you know, like everybody does it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I thought I hadn't yet farted in front of

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<v Speaker 1>my boyfriend, and then I found out that I've done

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<v Speaker 1>it in my sleep. I'll just add my ex boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>he told me that if I ever farted in front

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<v Speaker 1>of me, he'd kick me to the curb.

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<v Speaker 2>That too, he said he'd break up with me. Douchebag.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, I think if any guy ever says that,

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<v Speaker 3>or vice versa, you don't want to be with him,

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<v Speaker 3>because that's the most natural thing in the world, is farting. Really,

0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:20.399
<v Speaker 3>In fact, I wish I had one. Now, I'd let

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<v Speaker 3>one rip what I haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>I've also heard of someone who's going out with a

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<v Speaker 1>new girl and he hasn't farted in front of her,

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<v Speaker 1>so he'll actually go out to the car to fart

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<v Speaker 1>before he goes and asleep. Oh you tell it. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we've actually heard this guy that we know. He's been

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<v Speaker 1>dating her for a year and they've even been overseas together,

0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:45.000
<v Speaker 1>and so while they were overseas, as an excuse to

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<v Speaker 1>go far outside, he'd go on like field, drink bottles up,

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<v Speaker 1>or pretend to be going somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>And then every time.

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<v Speaker 1>He stays at her house, he leaves his overnight bag

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<v Speaker 1>in the car so he has an excuse to go

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<v Speaker 1>out and get it to far and she always think

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<v Speaker 1>his bloody got on set dementia or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think he's fucked in the head. If you

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<v Speaker 3>ask me, that's a lot of work just for a fart. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I believe. Well, I'll ask you girls, if a guy

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<v Speaker 3>farted in front of you after the first week, what

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<v Speaker 3>would you think.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I think it's just a normal thing for guys

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<v Speaker 1>to do. If I fight it after first week, I

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<v Speaker 1>would be mortified.

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:24.399
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know.

0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 1>In that situation with this guy who doesn't far in

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<v Speaker 1>front of it, I would think there was something wrong

0:26:28.840 --> 0:26:30.760
<v Speaker 1>because imagine if you were the first to fight, Like

0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel like the guy has to be the first

0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:36.160
<v Speaker 1>to fight, otherwise you're thinking, who is this guy?

0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:38.200
<v Speaker 3>That's not normal? That what that guy did?

0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:41.639
<v Speaker 1>I think it shows a level of comfort if you

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<v Speaker 1>are willing to pass wind in front of your part

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<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the best way to describe it. I think once

0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:47.680
<v Speaker 3>you find in front of each other, you know you

0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:51.040
<v Speaker 3>feel comfortable with each other. If it's after the first week,

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:52.199
<v Speaker 3>kudos to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I reckon now along with the same sort of line,

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<v Speaker 1>doctor X, when do you think you should use your

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<v Speaker 1>partner's bathroom to do an number two?

0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 3>Your partner's bathroom?

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:04.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so, like if you were it on a first, second,

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:06.480
<v Speaker 1>third date with the girl, you probably wouldn't feel comfortable

0:27:06.520 --> 0:27:07.920
<v Speaker 1>to go to the bathroom.

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:08.480
<v Speaker 2>And do that.

0:27:08.920 --> 0:27:10.399
<v Speaker 3>It is a bit orkie, but you know what, if

0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 3>you've got to go, you've got to go, you know.

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:14.680
<v Speaker 3>You know, there's times we just can't you can't wait

0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:17.080
<v Speaker 3>to get home. And I don't like stopping at service stations,

0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:21.480
<v Speaker 3>so I'm one of those that And it's the worst

0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:23.480
<v Speaker 3>part about doing that is if it's really quiet in

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:26.159
<v Speaker 3>the house and the toilet's next to where the people

0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:29.160
<v Speaker 3>are and you're trying to getting out really softly, that's

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:31.879
<v Speaker 3>fucking hard, you know, and all it wants to do

0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:34.119
<v Speaker 3>is just get the hell out of there. That's a

0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 3>tough one. But I have done it, I must ad been.

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 3>I have done it where I think, oh, fuck it,

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:39.880
<v Speaker 3>let's just do it and suffer the consequences.

0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 2>I actually remember this guy I was going out with.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to use his toilet and he lived in

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:46.840
<v Speaker 1>a sharehouse with another group of guys, and I walked in.

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 1>There was no toilet paper next to the toilet, and

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:52.199
<v Speaker 1>then there were complete skinties all over, like it was

0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:54.560
<v Speaker 1>like someone had done one of those reverse Kangi poos

0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:55.159
<v Speaker 1>in the toilet.

0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:56.160
<v Speaker 2>It was disgusting.

0:27:56.480 --> 0:27:58.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the no toilet paper is not a good thing either.

0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:02.720
<v Speaker 1>I had a store and I'm this is one hundred

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:06.680
<v Speaker 1>percent true about a guy. He was dating a girl

0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:09.680
<v Speaker 1>from his work and they had been dating for that long,

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 1>but she slept over at his house and she got

0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:13.119
<v Speaker 1>up in the middle of the night to go to

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:16.800
<v Speaker 1>the toilet, and unbeknownst to him, she'd done a number two.

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>And when he woke up, he found that there was

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:23.560
<v Speaker 1>a pool in his sink, and she'd left like she

0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 1>she'd done that Perlin gone, And so he was like,

0:28:27.320 --> 0:28:28.879
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, this is so weird.

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 2>So he ended up.

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Actually breaking up with the girl and he wrote sorry

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:33.720
<v Speaker 1>she it's gotten hard at work or.

0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:34.399
<v Speaker 3>Something like that.

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Was she drunk?

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 3>It must have been drunk, surely. No, that's pretty fucked up.

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:42.360
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea. It's like this, mystery, it's like this.

0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:43.880
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea.

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 3>Why I've been drunk when I was younger to that extreme.

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 3>But I've never shit in a base?

0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:52.000
<v Speaker 2>What is it in a sink?

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 3>In a sink? Never?

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:52.920
<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, actually funny, wasn't.

0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:56.560
<v Speaker 3>There toilet normally next to the sink?

0:28:56.800 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, actually on the subject, on the subject to poos,

0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 1>it's so funny because a friend told me that he

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:08.200
<v Speaker 1>knew somebody that this couple they bought a brand new house,

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 1>and so they had this beautiful bathroom, and apparently.

0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 2>They had this rule that they would never pooh in

0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:13.640
<v Speaker 2>the bar.

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, they had a rule that they'd never pooh in

0:29:18.320 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 1>the toilet. So they used to nip down the road

0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 1>to do their number two's at the petrol station.

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<v Speaker 3>That's nearly that's nearly as fucked up as the other story.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was thinking, maybe is it ridiculous? Is it

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<v Speaker 2>because they didn't want each other to smell their poos?

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<v Speaker 3>That's stupid. Everybody shit stinks.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, yeah, that's true. Sorry, we'd do another quick fire.

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<v Speaker 3>Question is another ship question?

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<v Speaker 1>Who should pay for a first date. Do you get

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<v Speaker 1>and do you get Offendedive girls don't offer to pay.

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<v Speaker 3>All depends who the girl is. Growing up, I never

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<v Speaker 3>paid because I was a tight ass, but as I

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<v Speaker 3>got older it didn't bother me to pay, and not really,

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't get a if she did an.

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<v Speaker 2>Offer, so you would split it.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel weird when I split a tab with a girl.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why. I just feel like it's my

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<v Speaker 3>duty to pay for it if I like her not,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, if I don't know, if we're not that

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<v Speaker 3>good friends, then I would expect her to pay her

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<v Speaker 3>own way.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're on a date with someone that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't like, you won't pay the bill.

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<v Speaker 3>If someone that I don't like, I wouldn't be with

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<v Speaker 3>her in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've kind of figured out all this is going,

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<v Speaker 1>nowhere we go.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll just cut my losses, pay for it, never see

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<v Speaker 3>her again.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you so much for joining us tonight, dr

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<v Speaker 1>X Ladies.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been my pleasure and I just.

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