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Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome to a very special episode of Outspoken.

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Speaker 1: You're joined by journalists Sophie Kate and Amy Torbert.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever wanted to know what men really think?

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Speaker 1: In a modern world of dating apps, social media, etiquette

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Speaker 1: and mixed messages, We want to help you navigate the

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Speaker 1: harsh dating world. We're actually feeling a bit nostalgic today.

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Speaker 1: Growing up, everyone would remember Dolly Doctor's sealed section was

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Speaker 1: where you'd go for dating advice. Nothing was too embarrassing

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Speaker 1: or too cringey. We want to move Dolly Doctor into

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen with our very own doctor X.

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Speaker 2: Welcome Doctor X.

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Speaker 3: Good evening, ladies. I've got three of you here. That's

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Speaker 3: a man's dream.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you for joining us, and we will be

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Speaker 1: keeping your identity anonymous because we want you to be

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Speaker 1: as open as possible. And we've chosen you because we

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Speaker 1: think you give the best dating advice.

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Speaker 3: Well, if you want the truth and you think it's

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Speaker 3: the best dating advice, then I'll take that, but I'll

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Speaker 3: give you the truth. I'm not going to hold anything back.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: So we've taken to social media to find out what

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Speaker 1: you really want to know but are too embarrassed.

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Speaker 2: To ask.

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Speaker 1: So the first question, Dear doctor X, my boyfriend and

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Speaker 1: I have been together for a year. Ever since we

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Speaker 1: started dating, he has continued to like other girls photos

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Speaker 1: on Instagram. I don't mind him liking his female friend's photos,

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Speaker 1: but I've stumbled across him liking pictures of girls I

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Speaker 1: don't know. In some of the photos, the girls are

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Speaker 1: wearing bikinis or a scantily dressed Why do men do this?

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Speaker 1: And should I be worried? And that's from Caitlin from Queensland.

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Speaker 3: Caitlin, very good question. I don't think there's anything wrong

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Speaker 3: with it one year. Yeah, you haven't been around long

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Speaker 3: enough yet. I think I think he's still kind of

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Speaker 3: hedging his bets. To be totally honest, he still wants

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Speaker 3: to see what's out there, and I think it's a

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Speaker 3: normal thing for guys just to look at other women.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with it as long as you reap

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Speaker 3: the rewards, if you know what I'm saying. So, I think,

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Speaker 3: in answer to your question, I wouldn't worry about it

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Speaker 3: too much. Maybe if he's still doing it next year,

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Speaker 3: then i'd think of changing boyfriends.

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Speaker 1: I personally think that, yeah, if he's into you, he

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be liking those photos. As you say, from a

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Speaker 1: woman's perspective, I would think that would show he's maybe

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Speaker 1: unless it's unless it's a friend of his photos, that's

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Speaker 1: fine to like it. But if you're liking bikini photos,

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Speaker 1: it shows you a little bit uninterested. I would think

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't put up with it.

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Speaker 3: So you wouldn't like the idea of looking at bikini photo.

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Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't like the idea of my boyfriend liking other

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Speaker 1: girls photos.

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Speaker 3: In bikini Do you feel threatened?

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Speaker 1: Well, I would feel threatened because I was be thinking,

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Speaker 1: but why is he liking this if he's interested in me.

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Speaker 3: But he doesn't know them?

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Speaker 2: Oh, if he doesn't know them?

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Speaker 3: Does she's saying he knows these guys?

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Speaker 2: I took it that she knew that.

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Speaker 1: They weren't, you know, like supermodels, they were just normal girls.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but does he know them?

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Speaker 1: Well, she said that she doesn't know them, So I'm

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Speaker 1: wondering if that's the problem.

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Speaker 3: Well, if he knows them, then that maybe changes things.

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Speaker 3: If he knows them, then it's a little bit weird.

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Speaker 3: But maybe he has't got what's his intentions? Is he

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Speaker 3: just looking for the hell of looking at the attractive

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Speaker 3: girl in a bikini, which guy doesn't like, I mean

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Speaker 3: even girls like looking at attractive women and bikinis.

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Speaker 2: Well, I like to know.

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Speaker 1: If he's open to publicly liking this girl's photo and

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Speaker 1: the is he sliding into a few girls dms that

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Speaker 1: the girlfriend doesn't know about as well?

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, I think maybe being a bit

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Speaker 3: might be a bit jealous. Maybe he's trying to make

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Speaker 1: It's interesting though, because I think the difference is back

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Speaker 1: in the day, men would look at, you know, these

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Speaker 1: sorts of photos in magazines, but there was no way

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Speaker 1: find a hot girl and then directly message her. So

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Speaker 1: think when you see men liking all these sort of

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Speaker 3: Well, how many of them what you're saying, like hundreds

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Speaker 1: Well, if I was looking, say, I met a guy

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Speaker 1: and I saw that all these bikini photos kept popping

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Speaker 1: up of him liking, I think maybe he was a.

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Speaker 2: Bit of a player, a bit of a pig.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say that actually happened to me. I

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Speaker 1: was dating some guy and on the Instagram, I kept

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Speaker 1: you can see what people like follow a like, and

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Speaker 1: I noticed that he kept liking girls photos in bikinis,

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Speaker 1: and I was sort of like, what I mean, we

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Speaker 1: a perv. Does that make you sound a bit crazy, though,

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Speaker 1: that you're not even going out with this guy and

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Speaker 1: you're already stalking his instagram for you? No, I wasn't

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Speaker 1: actually stalking him, but it just kept popping up, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, this is a bit weird. That section

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Speaker 1: doesn't pop up. You have to you're actively looking for

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Speaker 1: that section. No, but I wasn't actively seeking out what

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Speaker 3: So what did you think of him? How were you thinking?

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Speaker 3: Were you feeling threatened? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Well they were kind of girls with massive boobs, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, well, I don't have massive boobs.

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Speaker 2: So and it wasn't just models, it.

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Speaker 1: Was like random girls in Adelaide. So I was like, hmm, okay.

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Speaker 3: In nnswer two ways? Was it Caitlin? Was it from Queensland?

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Speaker 3: I'd say to Caitlin, if you really feel threatened and

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Speaker 3: he keeps looking at these girls, maybe it's time to

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Speaker 3: get a new boyfriend.

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Speaker 1: Moving on to the next question. It's from Ella from Melbourne.

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Speaker 1: Dear doctor X. The other night, my boyfriend revealed to

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Speaker 1: me he has slept with that twenty six women. We

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Speaker 1: are both in our mid twenties and began dating two

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Speaker 1: years ago. Do men usually lie about their numbers?

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Speaker 3: That's another good question. Yeah, I think some guys do.

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Speaker 3: I think it's sometimes safer to lie about how many

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Speaker 3: year because and I think we've all been there. Tell

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Speaker 3: me the truth, I really, I don't mind. I won't

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Speaker 3: I won't care. And then you do tell them the truth,

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Speaker 3: and then they'll hold it against you forever. So I reckon.

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Speaker 3: It's best either to say you can't remember, that's me,

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Speaker 3: or maybe just say two or three, because that way,

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Speaker 3: there the girls will be more sort of satisfied. Though

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Speaker 3: there's only a couple, so I feel more special because

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Speaker 3: for whatever reason, I mean, you expect a guy to

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Speaker 3: a lot of guys. That's how us blokes think anyway,

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Speaker 3: So you either tell them you can't remember, or just

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Speaker 3: make it minimal, like a couple of women.

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Speaker 2: Is there a general rule of thumb that guys have

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Speaker 1: There's some rule that, you know, divide it by three

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Speaker 3: No, I don't know really, because I mean you can

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Speaker 3: ask any guy you know and ask them, and many

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Speaker 3: women they've had. I'll be surprised if they know, unless

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Speaker 3: good looking and they've never had that many women. That's different.

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Speaker 3: But otherwise most blokes will not remember, and to us

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Speaker 3: it doesn't really matter. It's like, at the end of

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Speaker 3: the day, you're with the are now, so who cares

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Speaker 3: what was in the past. That was just a bit

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Speaker 1: Is there a number that would put you off if

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Speaker 1: you found out someone you were dating, like a girl

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Speaker 1: had slept with you know, fifty guys. Is there a

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Speaker 3: What depends how she old she was. If she was

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Speaker 3: would worry me a tad. What then you do your sums?

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Speaker 3: I think that's twice a day. Yeah, I suppose that

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Speaker 3: you know guys. I think most guys would prefer women

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Speaker 3: a red flag, which is I didn't make the rules.

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Speaker 3: That just seems to be the case.

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Speaker 1: I dated a guy and he was only twenty at

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Speaker 1: And his list was up to twenty three and he

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Speaker 1: was only twenty years old and lost his Begitta. Not

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Speaker 1: a bad effort when he was eighteen. I actually think

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Speaker 3: You're right, when you're younger, you kind of you do

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Speaker 3: know it's a challenge to see how many girls you

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Speaker 3: can get. So yeah, yeah, I think I most probably

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Speaker 1: Okay, So our next question is from and from Sydney.

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Speaker 2: So do you, doctor X?

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Speaker 1: I have a question about online dating. I swipe right,

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Speaker 1: we match, I text first. He never replies. This is

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Speaker 1: happening more and more frequently to me and many of

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Speaker 1: my single gal pals. Why we are catchers? But why

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Speaker 1: swipe bright if you don't think we fit your criteria?

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Speaker 1: Why inflate your ego by gaming matches and not talking

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Speaker 1: to them? So why do you think these guys aren't talking?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know they what depends what they look like,

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Speaker 3: because let's face it looks first impressions is what they

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Speaker 1: So she's talking about the dating app Tinder, So that's

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Speaker 1: based on what people look like. So you can either

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Speaker 1: go yes, yes, yes, or no.

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Speaker 2: Well not to butt in here, doctor X.

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Speaker 1: But I've heard it from a lot of guys that

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Speaker 1: they all just swipe right on basically every girl that

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Speaker 1: pops up in their feed, So they're just kind of

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Speaker 1: hedging their bets.

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Speaker 2: At who's gonna law of average.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so they probably match with someone and they weren't

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Speaker 1: particularly interested in matching with them, so they're not going

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an interesting one, and I've never used Tinder thankfully. Well,

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Speaker 3: I think it's there is a need for it, There's

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Speaker 3: no doubt about it because a lot of single people

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Speaker 3: out there, a lot of women especially, don't like going

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, see where hunters men are hunters, So not that

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Speaker 1: See I think that's really good advice for women to hear,

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Speaker 1: I remember that Seinfeld episode where Jerry couldn't He said

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Speaker 3: obviously you're always going to be good friends. But otherwise

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Speaker 1: just nothing there. And yeah, as he said, it's pretty obvious.

438
00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,879
Speaker 1: So I think it can be good to get it

439
00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,479
Speaker 1: out of the way because then at least, you know,

440
00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,120
Speaker 1: do you know what I keep getting in my head?

441
00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,159
Speaker 1: You know that Kath and Kim episode where it's like,

442
00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:00,119
Speaker 1: no kiss now.

443
00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,439
Speaker 2: Coach, no kiss, no coach.

444
00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,960
Speaker 1: The next question is about a kiss of a different kind.

445
00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,120
Speaker 1: So it says, dear doctor X, I recently found out

446
00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,080
Speaker 1: my boyfriend kissed another girl when he was away on

447
00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,320
Speaker 1: a work trip. He told me it was a mistake

448
00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,679
Speaker 1: and it wouldn't happen again. Should I give him a

449
00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:17,359
Speaker 1: second chance?

450
00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:18,080
Speaker 3: Absolutely?

451
00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,439
Speaker 1: Now that is from Stephanie for Melbourne, So you do

452
00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:21,199
Speaker 1: think he should have a.

453
00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,280
Speaker 3: Second Tephany, give him one more chance? He I mean

454
00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,880
Speaker 3: a kiss again. All the circumstances that surround it makes

455
00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:30,280
Speaker 3: a big difference. But I think if you, yeah, everyone

456
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,919
Speaker 3: makes a mistake. Maybe in that moment something happened. Did

457
00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:35,240
Speaker 3: they have sex or just a kiss?

458
00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,399
Speaker 2: Well she's saying just kiss.

459
00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,600
Speaker 3: Well, if it was just a kiss, I think, yeah,

460
00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,040
Speaker 3: give him a chance. I mean it might have just

461
00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,080
Speaker 3: been a quick kiss or was it one of those

462
00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,520
Speaker 3: full on don't let go type kiss.

463
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,600
Speaker 1: If he's already been dishonest, you know, in the first place,

464
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 1: and probably has been caught out with the kiss. Maybe

465
00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,800
Speaker 1: there has been more that's happened that he's not being

466
00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:53,359
Speaker 1: honest about.

467
00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,080
Speaker 2: We don't know, I suppose so, doctor X.

468
00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,160
Speaker 1: Would it be different if this guy had actually slept

469
00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,000
Speaker 1: with the girl instead of just kissing it?

470
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,520
Speaker 3: Well, it changes things for sure. But as we know,

471
00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:09,200
Speaker 3: there are some couples that forgive give them another chance,

472
00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,880
Speaker 3: even under those circumstances, and then there's others that no chances.

473
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,639
Speaker 3: You've done the wrong thing, you're out of here. So again,

474
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,960
Speaker 3: need to know more information, need to have more ideas

475
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 3: of how this all started, what happened. Was he drunk

476
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,960
Speaker 3: or was she drunk? Maybe some people say it's not

477
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,680
Speaker 3: an excuse, but people do make mistakes.

478
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,520
Speaker 1: Do you think it would make a difference if, say,

479
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,720
Speaker 1: he knows the girl compared to if it's a random girl.

480
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a very good question. I think some women

481
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 3: would most probably say I'd rather be a random girl

482
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 3: than know the girl. I think that is a huge difference,

483
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 3: especially if it's your girlfriend. Then that one there is

484
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 3: that one there is getting on a really sticky ground.

485
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 3: If it's your girlfriend that he had sex with, I

486
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:56,160
Speaker 3: think that's a no note of going with your girlfriend's girlfriends,

487
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 3: if you know what I mean. I think that's definitely

488
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,960
Speaker 3: a you don't go in that area because I don't

489
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,400
Speaker 3: think there's any excuses for that.

490
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,880
Speaker 2: But that's a bigger boundary it is.

491
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,880
Speaker 3: Namely because and you can understand how it happens, because

492
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,120
Speaker 3: they see so much of each other. Then you start

493
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 3: to grow on them as well. And if they're attractive,

494
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 3: then you're only human. But it's still not an excuse,

495
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,160
Speaker 3: and I think it's a no no that one there.

496
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,119
Speaker 3: But if it was just a stranger, I think it's

497
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 3: a little bit different. That's what I think.

498
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,520
Speaker 1: Do you think it's also different if he's been honest

499
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 1: about it, like if he's tried to deceive the girlfriend

500
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 1: and lie about it, is it different? Or if he's

501
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 1: actually come to him said I've made a genuine mistake.

502
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 3: Never admit to it. Never admit to it, because what

503
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,199
Speaker 3: you don't know will not hurt you unless you've been

504
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 3: found out. That's a different ballgame. But if you admit it,

505
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 3: that is looking for trouble.

506
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 1: See if my boyfriend went out and kissed another girl,

507
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 1: I would dump his r so quickly just a kiss, yeah,

508
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,119
Speaker 1: because I think it's so disrespectful and it should have

509
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 1: shows what their motives are, as in if I know,

510
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go out and do that if I really

511
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 1: cared about somebody.

512
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 3: So I think that what about if he's intoxicated, because

513
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 3: people do things they don't normally do when they're drunk.

514
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:12,679
Speaker 3: Is that an excuse or not?

515
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,239
Speaker 2: I don't really. I think that sometimes it's a bit

516
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 2: of a cop out. I think you'd have to be there.

517
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,679
Speaker 1: And if his friends were like he just didn't know

518
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 1: what he was doing, he was paralytic and he was

519
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 1: you know, oh, please forgive me.

520
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 2: I'd never do this. I don't know. But I'm just

521
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 2: of the mind that once a cheater, always a cheater.

522
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 1: And you know, it depends if it's really early on

523
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,719
Speaker 1: in the relationship as well. I'm not sure when this happened,

524
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 1: but you kind of think where you know, that's kind

525
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 1: of what the relationship's going to be like. If this

526
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 1: guy's kissing other girls already.

527
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 3: No, but you're saying kissing other girls, we're talking about

528
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 3: one person here. If your boyfriend kissed one person that's

529
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 3: all he's ever done. You would actually go to the

530
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 3: extreme of dumping him just because he kissed one girl.

531
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 3: That's pretty extreme. Well, he's made a mistake.

532
00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,479
Speaker 1: It would depend, it would depend what he said, and

533
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,360
Speaker 1: if I really loved him, I might be stupid enough

534
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 1: to forgive him. But I think my initial I don't know.

535
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: I don't think I could get over that because I

536
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 1: feel like it's just so dishonest. I think a lot

537
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: of girls would keep it in the back of their

538
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 1: mind as well and not be able to trust them

539
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 1: when they went out on Further.

540
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 3: We're talking about a kiss, not having sex. A kiss,

541
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 3: I think that's okay, you shouldn't do it, but it's

542
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,959
Speaker 3: really not that bad like having sex.

543
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's not as bad as that. There's

544
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 1: obviously scales of badness, but I think it's still as

545
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: a betrayal of someone's trust. If you're out on a

546
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 1: work trip and the first thing you do is go

547
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: on hook up with another girl, to be honest, I

548
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 1: think it's wrong, but I think you got It's easy

549
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: to sit here and talk about. Oh, I definitely dump him,

550
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 1: but I think when in the situation and you love

551
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 1: the person, you built a life with them, then it

552
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 1: would be a lot easier to forgive a kiss as

553
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 1: opposed to you having I think I think it's easy

554
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 1: to say now. I think you can forgive it, but

555
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: it's always going to be at the back of your mind.

556
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,199
Speaker 1: I think we should move on to the quick fire

557
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: round for Doctor X is quite an interesting one. So

558
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: when do you think it's acceptable to fight in front

559
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 1: of your partner?

560
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 3: I reckon you should do it within the first week.

561
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 1: What about So if a girl farted in front of

562
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: you in the first week, would you be impressed or

563
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: a bit disturbed?

564
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 3: No, I would be okay, because you know, sometimes you

565
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,479
Speaker 3: go out like you know you what depends how long

566
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 3: you've been out with this person, and you hold it in.

567
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 3: You don't want to and you're fucking dying to get

568
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 3: out of there. As soon as you're getting that car away,

569
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 3: she goes and that car is dangerous all of a

570
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 3: sudden because it doesn't smell very nice. So I reckon,

571
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 3: the sooner you get that out of the way, the better,

572
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 3: so you both feel comfortable.

573
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 2: I've never farted in front of dale.

574
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 3: Well, that's ridiculous. That is ridiculous.

575
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: We heard of someone someone we know has never farted

576
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 1: in front of their girlfriend of seven years a boy nahn.

577
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 3: Like, I find that very very hard to believe. There's

578
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 3: nothing that's just the human beings do that. That's what

579
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 3: everybody does it, you know, like everybody does it.

580
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: So I thought I hadn't yet farted in front of

581
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 1: my boyfriend, and then I found out that I've done

582
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: it in my sleep. I'll just add my ex boyfriend

583
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 1: he told me that if I ever farted in front

584
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: of me, he'd kick me to the curb.

585
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: That too, he said he'd break up with me. Douchebag.

586
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think if any guy ever says that,

587
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 3: or vice versa, you don't want to be with him,

588
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 3: because that's the most natural thing in the world, is farting. Really,

589
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 3: In fact, I wish I had one. Now, I'd let

590
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 3: one rip what I haven't.

591
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: I've also heard of someone who's going out with a

592
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: new girl and he hasn't farted in front of her,

593
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 1: so he'll actually go out to the car to fart

594
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 1: before he goes and asleep. Oh you tell it. So, yeah,

595
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: we've actually heard this guy that we know. He's been

596
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 1: dating her for a year and they've even been overseas together,

597
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: and so while they were overseas, as an excuse to

598
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: go far outside, he'd go on like field, drink bottles up,

599
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: or pretend to be going somewhere.

600
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 2: And then every time.

601
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: He stays at her house, he leaves his overnight bag

602
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: in the car so he has an excuse to go

603
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 1: out and get it to far and she always think

604
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: his bloody got on set dementia or something.

605
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 3: Well, I think he's fucked in the head. If you

606
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 3: ask me, that's a lot of work just for a fart. Well,

607
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 3: I believe. Well, I'll ask you girls, if a guy

608
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 3: farted in front of you after the first week, what

609
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 3: would you think.

610
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: Oh, I think it's just a normal thing for guys

611
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: to do. If I fight it after first week, I

612
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 1: would be mortified.

613
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 2: And I don't know.

614
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: In that situation with this guy who doesn't far in

615
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: front of it, I would think there was something wrong

616
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: because imagine if you were the first to fight, Like

617
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: I feel like the guy has to be the first

618
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 1: to fight, otherwise you're thinking, who is this guy?

619
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 3: That's not normal? That what that guy did?

620
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: I think it shows a level of comfort if you

621
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: are willing to pass wind in front of your part

622
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: I think.

623
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 3: That's the best way to describe it. I think once

624
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 3: you find in front of each other, you know you

625
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 3: feel comfortable with each other. If it's after the first week,

626
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 3: kudos to you.

627
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: I reckon now along with the same sort of line,

628
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 1: doctor X, when do you think you should use your

629
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: partner's bathroom to do an number two?

630
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 3: Your partner's bathroom?

631
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, like if you were it on a first, second,

632
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: third date with the girl, you probably wouldn't feel comfortable

633
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: to go to the bathroom.

634
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 2: And do that.

635
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 3: It is a bit orkie, but you know what, if

636
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 3: you've got to go, you've got to go, you know.

637
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 3: You know, there's times we just can't you can't wait

638
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 3: to get home. And I don't like stopping at service stations,

639
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 3: so I'm one of those that And it's the worst

640
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 3: part about doing that is if it's really quiet in

641
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 3: the house and the toilet's next to where the people

642
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 3: are and you're trying to getting out really softly, that's

643
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 3: fucking hard, you know, and all it wants to do

644
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 3: is just get the hell out of there. That's a

645
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 3: tough one. But I have done it, I must ad been.

646
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: I have done it where I think, oh, fuck it,

647
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 3: let's just do it and suffer the consequences.

648
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: I actually remember this guy I was going out with.

649
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 1: I went to use his toilet and he lived in

650
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: a sharehouse with another group of guys, and I walked in.

651
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: There was no toilet paper next to the toilet, and

652
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,199
Speaker 1: then there were complete skinties all over, like it was

653
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: like someone had done one of those reverse Kangi poos

654
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: in the toilet.

655
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 2: It was disgusting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the no toilet paper is not a good thing either.

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Speaker 1: I had a store and I'm this is one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent true about a guy. He was dating a girl

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Speaker 1: from his work and they had been dating for that long,

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Speaker 1: but she slept over at his house and she got

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Speaker 1: up in the middle of the night to go to

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Speaker 1: the toilet, and unbeknownst to him, she'd done a number two.

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Speaker 1: And when he woke up, he found that there was

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Speaker 1: a pool in his sink, and she'd left like she

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Speaker 1: she'd done that Perlin gone, And so he was like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, this is so weird.

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Speaker 2: So he ended up.

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Speaker 1: Actually breaking up with the girl and he wrote sorry

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Speaker 1: she it's gotten hard at work or.

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Speaker 3: Something like that.

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Speaker 2: Was she drunk?

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Speaker 3: It must have been drunk, surely. No, that's pretty fucked up.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea. It's like this, mystery, it's like this.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea.

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Speaker 3: Why I've been drunk when I was younger to that extreme.

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Speaker 3: But I've never shit in a base?

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Speaker 2: What is it in a sink?

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Speaker 3: In a sink? Never?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: Well, actually funny, wasn't.

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Speaker 3: There toilet normally next to the sink?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Well, actually on the subject, on the subject to poos,

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Speaker 1: it's so funny because a friend told me that he

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Speaker 1: knew somebody that this couple they bought a brand new house,

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Speaker 1: and so they had this beautiful bathroom, and apparently.

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Speaker 2: They had this rule that they would never pooh in

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Speaker 2: the bar.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, they had a rule that they'd never pooh in

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Speaker 1: the toilet. So they used to nip down the road

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Speaker 1: to do their number two's at the petrol station.

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Speaker 3: That's nearly that's nearly as fucked up as the other story.

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Speaker 2: But I was thinking, maybe is it ridiculous? Is it

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Speaker 2: because they didn't want each other to smell their poos?

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Speaker 3: That's stupid. Everybody shit stinks.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, yeah, that's true. Sorry, we'd do another quick fire.

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Speaker 3: Question is another ship question?

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Speaker 1: Who should pay for a first date. Do you get

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Speaker 1: and do you get Offendedive girls don't offer to pay.

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Speaker 3: All depends who the girl is. Growing up, I never

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Speaker 3: paid because I was a tight ass, but as I

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Speaker 3: got older it didn't bother me to pay, and not really,

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't get a if she did an.

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Speaker 2: Offer, so you would split it.

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Speaker 3: I feel weird when I split a tab with a girl.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why. I just feel like it's my

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Speaker 3: duty to pay for it if I like her not,

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Speaker 3: you know, if I don't know, if we're not that

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Speaker 3: good friends, then I would expect her to pay her

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Speaker 3: own way.

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Speaker 1: So if you're on a date with someone that you

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Speaker 1: don't like, you won't pay the bill.

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Speaker 3: If someone that I don't like, I wouldn't be with

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Speaker 3: her in the first place.

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Speaker 1: If you've kind of figured out all this is going,

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Speaker 1: nowhere we go.

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Speaker 3: I'll just cut my losses, pay for it, never see

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Speaker 3: her again.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for joining us tonight, dr

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Speaker 1: X Ladies.

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