WEBVTT - WWYD If Your Boyfriend Deleted Your Insta? 😳 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:03.880 The Flegs and Rooms Daily Podcast. 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:09.520 Flexing Rooms Podcast Edition. This episode is going to be 0:00:09.880 --> 0:00:14.080 super fun. As always, we go deep, not subterranean, we 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:15.880 go shallow deep, we go. 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:18.720 One meter pull kitty laps. 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:23.760 Anyway, I came across this term on TikTok called blowfishing. 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:27.360 It is in the realm of catfishing, but has to 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:29.840 do with I'm gonna stop myself. 0:00:29.840 --> 0:00:34.160 There was that a cliphanger almost jump scares be coming 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:36.760 because literally, when you thought you've heard it all when 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:39.400 it comes to these dating buzzwords, we haven't even scratched 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:39.920 the surface. 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:42.640 So stick around. 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:44.760 How do you feel about that one? 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:46.040 I do like whispering? 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:46.640 That was nice. 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:50.519 Okay, let's get into it, Flecks and Frooms. 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:55.400 Somebody's asking us. Let's name him Kevin. Kevin wants to 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:58.840 know if he is the asshole for permanently deleting his 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:00.880 girlfriend's Instagram. What do you think? 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:03.400 Oh, I'm triggered by that, so that's a yes. 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:05.039 Yes, listen to this. 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:07.880 Kevin says, my girlfriend and I have been dating for 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:12.000 five years now. He doesn't have any social media, No Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat, 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:15.319 none of it. Says he's a private guy. Red flag 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:18.640 and he likes keeping his personal life to himself. I 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:21.800 understand that his girlfriend, on the other hand, is obsessed 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:24.840 with Instagram. She has over eight hundred photos posted and 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:28.759 is constantly scrolling through the app every waking moment she's 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:31.600 not working or sleeping. How many photos do you have? 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:32.399 Like? 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:36.800 Over one thousand, eight hundred is just regular? If you've 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:39.160 been posting on the app since twenty thirteen, of course 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:39.880 you got Also. 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:42.720 You get paid be on the app. I got almost 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:47.039 three thousand. Again I shit post, though, he said he 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:49.440 confronted her a few times about this in the last 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:52.000 few years, and she always says she'll cut down, but 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:55.080 she never does. Last week, he says, she was using 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:57.760 his laptop because her laptop was at the store and 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:00.880 she forgot to loog out of her email, so he 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:03.240 used this as an opportunity to do that forget the 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:06.800 password thing, so it sets the reset password link to 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:09.400 her account, And while he was doing that, he also 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:14.160 googled hattedly Instagram and then deleted her account just like 0:02:14.240 --> 0:02:17.000 that gone. He says that she woke up the next 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:20.960 day and started screaming and crying about how he in 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:26.200 quotations he's put permanently deleted her Instagram instead of deactivating it, 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:28.680 and that he betrayed her trust, and now she won't 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:31.480 talk to him because she says she can't recover Instagram 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.200 and a profile of ten years is lost forever. He 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:37.079 thinks she's being incredibly childish and throwing a tantrum over 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.400 some random app and wants to knows he the asshole 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:40.600 or nah. 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:45.600 I would be going no exaggeration, to the police, for real, 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:50.600 if somebody deleted my Instagram that is literally ten years gone, 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:54.400 I'd probably lash out physically. I'm not gonna lie, probably 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:58.880 hit some things, not him, because I don't promote violence 0:02:58.919 --> 0:02:59.320 of anything. 0:02:59.600 --> 0:02:59.960 Generic. 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:03.640 Something's getting hit. Put it that way. What does he 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:06.040 do for a work I'd go up to his work, 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:10.920 probably spread some rumors, find his work account, send on 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:13.799 some really inappropriate memes, make him look like a freak, 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:18.079 and then yeah, break up with him. Yeah, there was 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:20.400 no way you could stay with somebody who would have 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:24.560 the goal to delete your social media because social media 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:27.680 isn't just social media, like that's your photo album. It's 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:29.840 like burning down a house or the photos inside it. 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:34.760 You can't get It's exactly that, because that's all social 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:35.280 media is. 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:35.600 Really. 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:37.240 I think when you get to the bottom of it 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:39.760 is the reason why we're chronicling everything is so that 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:43.240 when we're sixty saggy and keep it going. 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:44.920 I like that, sixty saggy and. 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:53.920 Sentient, senile nice, sixty saggy, senile and barely sentient, we're 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.200 gonna be looking back at our Instagram and thinking, yeah, damn, 0:03:56.400 --> 0:03:59.520 I was I slayed in Europe twenty thirteen. Yes, but 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:02.160 now that has been completely taken away from it. 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:04.440 I can't believe it because you can tell he's definitely 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:10.240 conflating actual Instagram usage with posting. Yes, you know, like 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:13.560 the memories, the eight hundred posts, totally valid. I don't 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:15.520 think that's what he really dislikes is the fact that 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:17.800 every waking moment she swipe, swipe. 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:19.599 Swipe, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll. 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:22.320 And for that reason, I don't think he's understanding the 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:23.719 severity of what he's just done. 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:25.880 Yeah, because he doesn't use Instagram. 0:04:26.960 --> 0:04:28.800 He's like, whatever the photos are? There are they? 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:29.200 So? 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:31.640 I've got two phones. One is the personal phone, one 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:37.720 is the profession content business phone. And on my personal phone, 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:40.880 I've run out of iCloud space for almost like a 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:44.160 year and a half now two years. But when that happened, 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:46.960 my phone was on the fritz, like it kept on freezing. 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:49.960 I could not access it to take stuff off the 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:52.880 phone and put it elsewhere, because like couldn't live in 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:53.400 the cloud. 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:54.600 I couldn't take it off. 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.680 So I went to the Apple store and they were like, oh, yeah, 0:04:57.720 --> 0:04:59.880 that sucks, so just to wipe your phone. 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:01.640 I was like huh. 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:04.440 They're like, yeah, we'll just have to wipe it and 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:06.880 like maybe some stuff will come back, maybe it won't, 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:09.400 like I don't know, okay. 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:10.599 And you couldn't just get more cloud space. 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:14.120 No, you can only have two terabytes you had you. 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:16.600 Had that much content? Yeah, far roun. 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:21.200 I'm a documentarian, babe. So the options were you get 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:23.719 a new phone and leave this phone as is. But 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:25.520 the reason why I couldn't do that is because my 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:27.640 number is hooked up to so much stuff, my two 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:30.839 factor authentication. You're just going to be far too difficult 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.400 to not maintain this number. So it's like, you know what, 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:37.960 erase it all, erase those memories from two thousand and 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:42.280 thirteen onwards. I didn't even need them, and so they did. 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:45.839 That's amazing, And I was surprised that I wasn't heaps 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:47.200 attached to it, but I was like, what are we 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:50.839 gonna do now? Like I've got no choice. But thankfully 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:54.040 the photos did come back, some of them. Anyway, Like 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:56.760 twenty seventeen is gone, most years are gone. 0:05:57.240 --> 0:06:00.680 But it's quite funny, yeah, because often it like all 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:02.960 twenty all to twenty fifteen will be there and there'll 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:04.840 be a rogue year that's like, you're not too bad. 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:07.760 I know what they're doing anyway. So this guy gonna 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:10.760 name Kevin is an asshole. You've definitely crossed the line. 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:16.040 You have overreacted. You have decided that your perception of 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:19.200 old mates' usage is better than the reality. You've done 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:22.080 nothing to try and understand what she's going through, and 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:23.680 you've made an irreversible decision. 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:27.520 You're a dick. You gotta go dol Yeah, in the bin. 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.039 This is flex and frooms on. 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:34.080 Kita for me, has a bit of a confession about 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:34.839 her ailment. 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:38.320 I wouldn't say this is necessarily in the mental illness category, 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:41.159 but I would say that it's adjacent. So something that 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:42.960 I do in my brain and I want to know 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:47.040 if other people listening get this is I will draw 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:49.400 a picture in my head, often when I'm about to 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:52.479 go to sleep. So basically I draw a line down 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:54.599 the middle, get a line through it, like a cross, 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:57.839 and then two other lines are like in between the 0:06:57.839 --> 0:06:59.120 other bits. 0:06:58.920 --> 0:06:59.680 And it's feeling great. 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:02.240 Witch, Yeah, it is a bit hex like, and then 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:04.599 draw a circle around them, but the circles like within 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:08.480 the sticks. And then I do a loop down like 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:10.880 on the on the Road spells. 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.920 This is a jon of arc the witches that were burned. 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:19.080 So it's basically like a It's a symbol that doesn't 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:21.360 mean anything. And I do it over and over around 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:23.760 in my head like as many times that then I feel. 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:27.040 Really like counting sheep. Yes, And how long do you 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:29.680 think you've done this for? Well, I can remember at 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:31.080 least like the past five years. 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:34.360 I don't know what. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. It 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:37.400 just is a fluffy occurrence. Doesn't really make me feel 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:39.680 a certain way. But I asked a whole bunch of 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:41.160 people on Instagram. 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:42.920 And to your point, a couple was it last week 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:45.320 or the week before we discussed that you have this 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:49.960 thing that you've termed pre nut synesthesia. Yes, but basically 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:54.560 you think of certain rows when we're having discussions, not 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.080 because you're at that place, we're talking about that road. 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:58.320 It just pops up in your brain. 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:01.720 Yes, for no reason, weird associations that don't make sense. 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:04.280 I think it's a brain wiring thing. Anyway, I asked 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:06.240 lots of people and they said, I think of a 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:12.920 three D cube and what just sometimes Yeah, it's my 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:16.040 name incursive with a specific shape for the dot on 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:19.560 the eye. The lines of a manual gear stick from 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:23.320 first gear to reverse, three vertical lines, one horizontal. So 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.800 people have these weird like sequences that they do in 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:28.840 their head. They're like drawings. 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:31.440 And to your point, you're scrolling through, so you made 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:33.920 a question box on Instagram and you have a fair 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:37.000 few submissions here. This is not one, two or three. 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:41.559 This could be thirty, forty, fifty sixty. And I still 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:42.800 don't know what it is. I don't want to say 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:45.280 I don't get it. I think I can conceptualize it, 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:48.760 but I'm like, but when and why? But there is 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:49.520 no when and why. 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:50.439 It just happens. 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:52.840 Because it just happens, because maybe it happens more when 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:55.240 you're anxious. I don't know. Anyway, I have a friend 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:57.640 who has agreed to be on the show, so I'm 0:08:57.640 --> 0:08:58.640 gonna give her a call. 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:01.760 And by a friend, you may produce a B and 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:03.160 that's okay. She can be bothered to. 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:09.040 Hello, God, that was a quick It's almost like you're 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:13.240 in the room next door waiting brook. So what's your story? Dool? 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:16.600 So I do this weird thing when someone talks to me. 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:19.679 I'll get a certain word from that sentence and then 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:23.120 I have to draw it on my teeth with my tongue. 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:24.640 And it's in fours. 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:28.520 So if, for example, rooms it's seven letters, I would 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:31.640 then feel uncomfortable because then there's one missing. So I'd 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:34.280 have to keep going and create words to complete the. 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:36.320 Sentence four by four. 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:39.680 Yeah, it has to be in force otherwise I feel 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:40.480 so uncomfortable. 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:41.440 Have you done that today? 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:43.280 Yeah? Oh? 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:43.920 Constantly? 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:47.040 Like I literally I don't even realize I'm doing it sometimes. 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:50.240 And why do you think it's four? 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:53.400 I hate odd numbers, so it has to be like 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:55.520 an even number, so it could be like a ten 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:57.880 or whatever. And then I'll put like a little space 0:09:57.960 --> 0:09:59.120 in between the words as well. 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.160 Why what's this odd number? Hate? 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:03.720 I like my favorite numbers. 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:07.720 Can't do it? How funny? 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:08.000 Okay? 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:10.920 Also only have a volume on the right letter, I 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:11.800 mean on the right number. 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:12.880 Yeah. 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:16.199 Once I've completed the sentence, I then draw a square 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:17.760 with my tongue around it. 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:21.280 See if to the person listening to this who doesn't 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:24.120 get it flex, I don't know how to explain it 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:26.400 beyond I know exactly what Brooke is talking about. 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:28.920 But I love that you both know exactly what you're 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:31.240 talking about. There must be a sense of like community 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:33.840 happening right now. We're like, she gets me, she knows 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:34.880 exactly what I mean. 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:39.440 That's awesome, definitely, Well thanks Brook, Have you find some 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:43.800 solace in this life? Oh? 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.040 This is flex and frooms on. 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.280 Every now and then somebody comes with a new term, 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:53.559 a new buzz word in the dating realm, and more 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:54.760 often than not doesn't stick. 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:55.920 Uh huh. 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:58.840 I think we've definitely latched onto gas lighting, love bombing 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:02.280 and we've stopped there. Maybe there was breadcrumbing for a second. 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:03.480 Crumbing was definitely there. 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:08.319 Ghosting crowd favorite. A soft ghost is what I coined myself, 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:12.640 very popular online. Yeah, you wean people off you. It's sweet, 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:16.920 one might say, nice, not kind, but nice certainly not 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:21.560 good not bad though debatable, let's not get into it. 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:24.800 I came across as TikTok of somebody ready to introduce 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:27.640 a new term to us. It's called blowfishing. Now off 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:29.960 the dome. What do you think that means in the 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:31.520 context of dating. 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:36.400 Ah, inflating yourself and then pricking someone when they realize 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:37.080 it's not real. 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:40.080 Oh no, I don't know. 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:42.839 I forgot what blowfishing meant in my notes, and I 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:44.600 knew there was a little TikTok to come back to 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:46.840 so that we get surprised together. 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:49.319 Okay, yeah, I know it's it's something. 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:55.720 About lying, concealing, maybe like over inflating, but I think 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:59.280 that might be here. What does catfishing even mean? 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:01.080 Let's well, no blood fishing. 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:03.559 Listen to this. Have you heard the term blowfishing. 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:06.800 It's kind of like catfishing, except instead of misrepresenting the 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:11.320 way you look, you misrepresent your lifestyle, your income, your experience. 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:12.439 Or your expertise. 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:15.280 And it can be done through a very intentional manipulation 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:17.559 of truth, or it can be done a little bit 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:21.280 more covertly by leaving out important details that give context 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:23.760 as to how you got from where you were to 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:26.320 where you are now. And it's just one way that 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:29.640 people are using manipulation in order to get more sales 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:31.800 and book more clients or peer like they are more 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:33.440 of an expert than they are so that they can 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:35.400 make more money. So let me give you a real 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:38.439 life example, because this actually happens in social media quite 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:41.000 a bit. Let's say that there is this person. They 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:44.560 have grown their account relatively quickly. It got into six 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:48.160 figures relatively quickly, and they credit it to the fact 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:52.120 that they have a really strong strategy that's organic and 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:56.320 that anyone can accomplish. So with your limited resources, you 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:58.040 can achieve the same results. 0:12:58.280 --> 0:12:59.960 This person has been featured in press. 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:03.800 Yes, they've gotten interviews, and they've had the opportunity to 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:05.600 work with maybe some interesting clients. 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:10.520 Controversial, that was a tiktop from that Ali Mason talking 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:12.959 about blowfishing being the new cat fishing. 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:14.560 Very controversial. 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:18.600 Rimy was nodding, nodding, nodding as that said it was 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:20.320 going so blowfishing. 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:23.920 It's interesting to me that this goes beyond dating. I 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:27.080 find off on like breadcrumbing, this that is totally spoken 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:29.040 about in the realm of dating. But actually you could 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:35.120 probably use all of those not phrases or like ideas 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:39.160 across different social interactions, like I've definitely been love bombed 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:41.560 by someone a friend and then they've yeated off to 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:42.120 a new friend. 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:44.360 And that's a pattern of their Oh yeah, yeah, you're 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:45.240 the favorite friend. 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:48.440 Yeah the moment, Yeah yeah, flavor the month. What is 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:49.200 with those people? 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:51.640 I'm not sure and I don't think it's a bad thing. 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:55.200 I've definitely had a favorite person, but they've turned out 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:57.679 to be, you know, lifelong friends. Like Grace is my 0:13:57.720 --> 0:13:59.400 favorite person, she stayed. 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:00.800 I just think. 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:04.600 It's it's tricky, but to the point of blow fissue. 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:07.600 When we were talking about our podcast stats and how 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:10.120 what is that start? Where like the sixth most listened 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:15.920 to podcast in the way yeah, very can which is. 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:17.640 The biggest network in Australia in terms. 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:19.720 Of Oh, it's huge, it's a great stat But I 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:24.800 was telling you about how some podcast people will say 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:29.560 that they've had a million listens, knowing that the average 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:33.520 person will think that a million listens means a million 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:39.320 individual people, whereas you could have had ten thousand people 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:45.160 listen one hundred thousand times or a million people listen once. 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:51.480 But because people will go with their interpretation of it, 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:53.680 which is usually more positive than the reality of it, 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:54.920 very blow fishy thing to do. 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:56.520 Interesting? Do we want to docs? 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:56.880 No? 0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:00.800 Never, but yes to the point of blowfishing. Have you 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:05.360 experienced that or have you blowfished in the dating context? 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:09.400 I've definitely blowfished. Oh yeah, inflated my age? 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:10.920 How do you do that? 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.680 I don't know. Just take my pea plates down? What 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:17.080 I think we're spaking about this? I swear all these 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:20.880 stories I've told before. Yeah, I used to take I 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.240 was dating a guy, yeah, who turned out to be 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:25.360 my boyfriend. But I didn't want him to know how 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:27.480 old I was or how young I was, So I 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:33.200 just take my pea plates down. Who pick him up 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.000 in my car with my little green peaplates on? 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:39.240 You picking up your older boyfriend in your car plates? 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:42.600 So he thinks you're older than you are. He didn't 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:43.360 know how old you are. 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:45.200 Nah, I don't. 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:48.320 Speak about it for like six months, willful ignorance. 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:51.760 This is the same one surf dive and speak Okay, 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:53.120 this poor man. 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:57.640 It's like we're out of each other's lives away. 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:00.160 I'm ring home this story. 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:02.720 I think he is a great person. But yes, this 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:04.960 is all the same person. It just so happens that 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:09.720 these are great fodder stories. It's actually not a representation 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:14.880 or reflection on him. But yes, I'm doging him. If 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:17.480 you knew him, you'd probably love him. Yeah, I would 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:21.640 take my pea plates down and also would say, yep, 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:23.480 like I've got this job. I've had this job for 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:26.400 this amount of time, the kaya job in reality, been 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:27.280 doing it for three months. 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:28.320 Well you're good. 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:32.200 I was a complete blowfisher, which I think. Yeah, it's 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:34.040 different to catfishing because I think a lot of the 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:38.040 time blowfishing comes from a place of wanting to impress 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:38.760 the person, not. 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:39.920 You justifying it. 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:43.200 I can imagine that if people were fish, it would 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:46.880 be for a very good reason. I noticed a lot 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:49.720 of blowfishing, specifically with people who say they work in 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:54.000 tech because they know that we think they're building apps 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:58.160 and selling them to lassion. Whereas if you just happen 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:00.720 to work in a facility that makes tech product and 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:03.840 you work at the call center, like sure, you work 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:08.080 in a tech environment, but people know they amp that up, 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:12.199 similar to like I work in media that one because 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:14.719 you know people are like, oh, okay, well so you 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:18.520 are what like the head of creative at a SO 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:21.760 and so. No, you run a casual podcast that's okay, 0:17:22.680 --> 0:17:24.320 but it's a blowfishy thing to do. 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:24.840 Do you think so? 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:26.280 Absolutely? 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:30.359 I think it's only blowfishy if you yourself put emphasis 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:33.840 on a certain area. So like tech didn't used to 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:37.240 be cool, Tech was nerdy before media. I guess media 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:38.840 has always been kind of cool. 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:39.879 I don't know. 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:44.240 I would say I feel like, you know, it's blowfishing 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:48.080 because especially when you're talking to random people, they like 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:52.080 to provide little nuggets of flex to make you feel 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:54.920 like they're a good partner. And so there are key 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:59.439 words or phrases that you'll say that give a person 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:02.520 the impression that you are more eligible than not. Like 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:06.280 saying you work in hospitality definitely comes across better than 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:07.200 I'm a bartender. 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:08.680 They're the same thing. 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:11.199 One just has a bit of a flare to it, 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:16.639 saying you work in law versus I'm a lawyer, but 0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:19.800 you just work at the law place as a janitor. 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:24.200 It's okay, but you know what you're doing. And if 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:28.480 there's a whole term for it must be rampant on 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:31.280 the apps. I like this, you like it? 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:31.640 Yeah? 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:32.480 I like this term. 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:36.800 I think this is finding a way to talk about something. 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:40.640 That a lot of people do you included a lot 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:44.200 of people, a lot of people, party of ones, Karen 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:44.880 Fruits Rice. 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:49.280 You're listening to Flex and Frooms on Kida. 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:51.640 Last week we talked about how you can't name your 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:56.320 child Linda or Sandra in Saudi Arabia for various reasons. 0:18:56.359 --> 0:19:00.600 But they have a list of illegal names eventually that 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:05.600 aren't keeping on the culture, or they're alluding to too 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:08.359 much celebrity or whatever it might be. But today I 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:09.720 want to tell you about what you can't name a 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:12.359 kid in New Zealand. Oh we haven't Zelander in the 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:15.520