1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: This is gem Nation with Jones. 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 2: Let's get on down to the Jonesy demand of arms 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 2: for the pub test. Televising the Amber Heard versus Johnny 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 2: Depp trial? Does this pass the pub test? I don't 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: know why we're getting a front row seat to this 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 2: and millions of people are watching it every day. Two 7 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: humans who are flawed, who have had a very toxic relationship. 8 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: I don't know who the winner is going to want 9 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 2: to either side. No, I'm not, No, I'm not. And 10 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 2: I think it's very easy for people to think that 11 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: Amber Heard has been discredited because they're saying, Oh, she's 12 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 2: not crying real tears. Look at her face all scrunched up. 13 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: She's a piece of work. It's very hard imagine if 14 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 2: you have you claim that you've been sexually violated or 15 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: we've been abused in some way, you have to be 16 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: the perfect witness or people will just tear you apart. 17 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: And that's what people are saying. Allowing this trial to 18 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: be televised is the worst decision I can think of, 19 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: says this Stanford Law School professor. There's the worst thing 20 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: I can think of in the context of partner violence 21 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: and sexual violence. People will not come forward, because unless 22 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: you're completely squeaky clean, and you're snow white literally someone 23 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: who has full of who is full of virtue, you're 24 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 2: going to be vilified. 25 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: And that's why courts have closed courts. 26 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 3: That's why it's not on. 27 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 2: It's not for us. People are making comments like this, yes, 28 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: weighing up the evidence. It's obvious she has lied, She's 29 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: ruined his career. This is missus bum nuts sitting at 30 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 2: home with no law degree. Do you see missus bum 31 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: nuts to you? Absolutely? 32 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 4: So? 33 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: What do you think televising Amber Heard versus Johnny dep trial? 34 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: Does it passed the pub test? 35 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 3: No? 36 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: It doesn't be kept private? 37 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 3: And that's all sure, No it doesn't. 38 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: It's like a soap op, right, and I'm over it. 39 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 4: Why did they this in its absolute entirety when the 40 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 4: Gilaine Twell and all that stuff, No, that was selevised, 41 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 4: all secret it was, and people didn't know anything until 42 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 4: the niver So why I sellvise this? 43 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 3: That's sort of seeing how I think it should say, however, 44 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: but it was interesting to see how how things were 45 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 3: manipulated and things went. But I'll be also interested to 46 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 3: see how it turns out. 47 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: It doesn't us the pub test, something that should be 48 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: in a closed environment so for the computer and the impuse, 49 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: so nobody can. 50 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 3: Pick a side. 51 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 2: And there's Johnny handing out doughnuts and things to the 52 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: people out in the front. 53 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 4: It's a sideshow. 54 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 2: It's a sideshow. And people are saying, isn't he charming 55 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: and funny and you go, well, we should not be 56 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: judging that.