1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Now, good friend John Pinder on a Friday morning, us, 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: how on earth are you well? 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 2: Very well? 4 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: How are you very good? 5 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 3: I've been listening to the adverts on the way in 6 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 3: here and I like that there was one that there's 7 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 3: one that I liked. It's the one for the influenza vaccine. 8 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 3: Why are we calling it influenza now? Didn't we used 9 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 3: to call it the flu? 10 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 4: We did call it, We've got we're all called it. 11 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course we've all done our own return. The 12 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: Premier is following our advice now. But it's clever. 13 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 3: There's a clever advert starts off very clever because it 14 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 3: incites your it's your empathy. 15 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: Because the guy goes. 16 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 3: I can't protect her from falling over, but I can 17 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 3: protect her from influenza. And there's like a child crying, 18 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 3: and it's like, as a dad, you go, oh, yeah, 19 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 3: you do want to protect your children from things. And 20 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 3: it goes like that, and then the lady one, I 21 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 3: presume this is aimed at the people that don't have children. 22 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 3: She's like, I love it when we're cooking together, spreading 23 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 3: the love. 24 00:00:58,440 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: Not influenza. 25 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 3: Oh honey, you say the most romantic things, how realistic 26 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 3: spreading the. 27 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 2: Love absolutely sexist. 28 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 4: It was a woman doing the cooking, the lady. 29 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 3: I hadn't even noticed that because I'm a man perception 30 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 3: a woman. Yeah, and that she's a romantic as well. 31 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: And it's even a really corny when we cook together. No, 32 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 3: she does say we're cooking together. 33 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 5: The cooking together, we're spreading love, not influenza. 34 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: Right, that's what I like. 35 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 3: It's one of the things I like about cooking, not 36 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 3: spreading influenza. 37 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: What about political ads? 38 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 3: This is going with those, this I think, right, I 39 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 3: have a tolerance copy for the modern world, and it 40 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 3: usually sits almost full, and I think around the time 41 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 3: of election campaigns that's when it spills off and then 42 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 3: everybody starts to irritate me. 43 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, because it's very high school. Yes, 44 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: what's it? It's not going to be easy. 45 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 3: Shock it put in little rhymes together and that's that's 46 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: the one that got me. 47 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 5: There's a hole in your buds costing money with our campaigns. 48 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 4: Our election ads are made up of not telling us 49 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 4: what your policies and so what you're going to do, 50 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 4: so much as rubbishing the opposite the others. So rather 51 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 4: than saying this is why I should win. They're saying 52 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 4: this is why they should lose. 53 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: Isn't the same in. 54 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: The I don't know. 55 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 3: I've been here for a very long time. I think 56 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 3: I think that all things a circus in the UK. 57 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 3: I think I think they might just show a picture 58 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,119 Speaker 3: of Boris John. I don't think you need to say 59 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 3: much more than Boris wouldn't bother. Yeah, I don't, Yeah, 60 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 3: I don't know. It's I think it's a circus. 61 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: But comes run. 62 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 5: I can't. 63 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 3: I can't handle that. They do like they had a 64 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 3: professional singer to do that. 65 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 5: That's a hole in your budget. 66 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: Someone searching for buckets that were rusty the hole. 67 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 3: It's but then you see these people and they're dressed 68 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: in suits. It's like, well, you're going to dress like 69 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 3: a grown up, but you're gonna you deserve a hat 70 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 3: with a propeller on it, sir, But you know you 71 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 3: should have a skateboard under your arm. But I think 72 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 3: because of that stuff, everything starts to do my head in. 73 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Like, if it's not that. 74 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 3: You've got like I have no tolerance for the like 75 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 3: spiritual groups trying to shove salvation down your throat people 76 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 3: in shopping centers. Do it for me as well. Try 77 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 3: and walk through a shopping center. And you've got the 78 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 3: paintball guy, Do you remember the paintball? 79 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: You want to play a bit of it? 80 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 3: And they always look like people that were rejected from 81 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: the military. 82 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 1: Have you seen them. You've got a little stall set 83 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: up like the charity. 84 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: Why I do a very broad loop of. 85 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: Any kind of stall. Yeah, yeah, I bet you've got 86 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: a good player as well. 87 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: I can't. No, I don't make it. 88 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: I don't make I can't. I can't help myself. I'm 89 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: a people Please peach. 90 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: Old pretend to be on the phone. 91 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's quite good my hand. 92 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: When I was when Rubes was really little. That it 93 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: made it a lot easier because I just tell them 94 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: that she'd pooed. 95 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, when she was little. Excuse me if you got 96 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: a minute. 97 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 3: No, I haven't made this with a pooh explosion here, 98 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 3: And I can't do anything for you. 99 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: They don't want you near them. 100 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 3: Then. 101 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: I don't like the roller shutters. 102 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 3: I don't like the inauthenticity of them as well, especially 103 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 3: the charity ones. And they're not they are not volunteers, 104 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 3: they're not charity people. They're paid to do this, but 105 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 3: this is the inauthentic eeries been White nor Day. 106 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: But yet do you know what I mean? If I'm 107 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: with Rubes, I have one goal? 108 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 3: Oh look it's super dead and it was like a 109 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 3: lady and I was like, do professionally flirt with me 110 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: with you? 111 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? And I can't help myself, 112 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: but I have to go. Don't do that, you know 113 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: what I mean? And then lads try and like get 114 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: in with the football with me. They're like, oh where 115 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: you're from? Mate? 116 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 3: I got Manchester? And I don't know why I answer them. 117 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 3: It's like I encouraged them Man City or Man United 118 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 3: is like stop it, stop trying to bond with me 119 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 3: so that you can take my money away. There's a 120 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 3: cash cash for gold. 121 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: One as well. 122 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: They do you know the stall cash for gold and 123 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 3: they're trying to get you to give you jewelry as 124 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 3: for instant cash. And my friend, my friend David Hughes, 125 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 3: he goes, I have I have a cop of tea 126 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 3: with him because we're British, and he goes. It always 127 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 3: insults me when they pester to somebody else, but they 128 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 3: don't pester me. 129 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: What you think I don't. 130 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like, I've half of mine to go home 131 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 3: and get all the jewelry I can find and just 132 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: saunter past them. Yeah, bracelets, rings, necklaces, the w w 133 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 3: F Intercontinental Championship. But the mask of tout and Carmen 134 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 3: he goes put on all the bad he is insulting, 135 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 3: isn't it. 136 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: It's likest the red petal or something going on. Yeah, 137 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,679 Speaker 1: cracks me up. It's good you've. 138 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: Got a story which you know is going to appeal 139 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: to me. 140 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, I think, I think you'll like about this. 141 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 3: How do you feel about the wolkies? 142 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: Woke stuff? 143 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 3: Things should be woke, nothing should be nothing should cause 144 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 3: any friction, nothing should offend anybody ever, nothing should ever upsss. 145 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: Things offended more people. 146 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: You prefer less, less things. 147 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: I would prefer less offense being taken. 148 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: And everything was like, well, the Wolkies. 149 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 3: You know what the Wolkies like, They've got a they've 150 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 3: got a notepad open, they're waiting to write things. 151 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,679 Speaker 1: I wonder what's going to offend me today? Exactly? 152 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 3: I like to think of the Wolkies that they're at home, 153 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 3: they've got extra thick sort of jumpers and blankets. 154 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: No, there are no sharp edges in their houses. 155 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 5: Everything in the Welcome to my home, nothing's nothing's offensive, 156 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 5: nothing will ever Well, we're turning the We're turning nursery rhymes, 157 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 5: woke nursery rhymes, including Barbara Black Shape. 158 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: This little Piggy changed by Peter to be kinder to animals. Yeah, 159 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: as the animal organization. 160 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 3: Had a war with them. They're centuries old and have 161 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 3: enchanted generations of children. 162 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: Right here we go. 163 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 3: In a new version, the sheep in barber actually explains 164 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 3: it's not cool to steal wool and refuses to provide 165 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 3: any for the pasta dame or little boy who lives 166 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: down the lane. 167 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: Fair enough, it's his wool. 168 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 3: Good lord, it's a nursery like it's just got a rhyme. This, 169 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 3: this one is what gets me. Miss Muffett, Little miss Muffett. 170 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 3: She's become vegan instead of eating curtains and ks and 171 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 3: why I. 172 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: Don't know what curds are? 173 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 2: Nothing? 174 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: Way is that that? So that I only know of 175 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: the protein instead of eating kurds and whey, she's watching 176 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,559 Speaker 1: the bluebirds. 177 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 3: Play and suppose, yes, supposedly we're not to We're not 178 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 3: to be appalled by the idea of a spider. 179 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: It doesn't frighten little. 180 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: Miss damn about little Miss Mufs. She wasn't eating kurds. 181 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 3: And wet brightened Miss Muffett's day. Because that's what you 182 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: want in Australia, isn't it. You want to endear spiders 183 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 3: to children. You want a children stroking a children, You 184 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 3: want a children's stroking a huntsman. 185 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: There's another one. I look up ordes yea is it cheese? Yes? 186 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 3: A fair enough? All right, point Peter, you can have 187 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 3: that one. Three blind mice. They all run after the 188 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 3: farmer's wife who cut off their tails with a carving 189 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 3: nice and it's been scrapped and it's been replaced with 190 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 3: They all run after the farmer's wife who told her 191 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 3: thank you for saving their life. Did you ever see 192 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 3: someone acting so nice as three blind mice? Is that 193 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 3: the benchmark for niceness you when somebody saves your life? 194 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: Fairy tales that are generations all nice. 195 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: Seen people acting heaps nicer than that. 196 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 3: Absolutely, you'd think it's a given to say thank you 197 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 3: if somebody saves your life. That's like things can get 198 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 3: nice in that anyway, they say, words matter and nursery 199 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 3: that make light of cruelty to animals or contain arcaic 200 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 3: negative depictions of them need a modern overhaul. 201 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: Imagine what do they make of this? 202 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: The woman that keeps her children in a shoe? 203 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, she keeps them in a shoe. 204 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 2: She lived in a shoe. 205 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: Windows. Why the three mice blind? 206 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 3: Surely surely that is hinting towards testing makeup and things 207 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 3: like that. 208 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,599 Speaker 1: Yes, what are we going to do with them? You 209 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: need a plot, though, don't It's like a Disney movie. 210 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 3: There's got to be some kind of friction where there's 211 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 3: some some bad thing that happens in these things. Have 212 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 3: Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall? 213 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 2: Children, it's a nursery rap. 214 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 3: All the king's horses and all the king's men disbanded 215 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 3: because there was no reason to have separate kingdoms. We 216 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 3: all live together in harmony and peace, had nothing bad 217 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 3: ever happens. 218 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: That's right. 219 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 4: Working occupasional work would never have let mister never let 220 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 4: him sit on a. 221 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 3: Wall, and somebody more qualifying then horses would have been 222 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 3: sent to fix him had he fallen off. 223 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: It's just too much. I can't. 224 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: It's a bit much. I can't