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Speaker 1: Hello.

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Speaker 2: My name's Santasha Nabananga Bamblet. I'm a proud yr the

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Speaker 2: Order Kerni Whoalbury and a waddery woman. And before we

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Speaker 2: get started on She's on the Money podcast, I would

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Speaker 2: like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land of

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Speaker 2: which this podcast is recorded on a wondery country, acknowledging

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Speaker 2: the elders, the ancestors and the next generation coming through.

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Speaker 2: As this podcast is about connecting, empowering, knowledge sharing and

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Speaker 2: the storytelling of you to make a difference for today

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Speaker 2: and lasting impact for tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into it.

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Speaker 3: She's on the Money, She's on the Money.

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Speaker 4: Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast

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Speaker 4: Millennials who want Financial Freedom.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jessica Ricky.

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Speaker 4: And of course today I have Beksayer joining me because

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Speaker 4: it's Friday, so today we are celebrating you, the incredible

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Speaker 4: She's on the Money community. Today, I'll be sharing some

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Speaker 4: of my favorite money ins. Beck will be sharing some

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Speaker 4: of her best broke tips, and we'll be helping to

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Speaker 4: answer a juicy money dilemma, which this week is all

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Speaker 4: about prioritizing healthy eating and your budget. Plus we're going

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Speaker 4: to unpack something that you slid into our DMS, about

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Speaker 4: which this week you asked for advice about navigating going

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Speaker 4: into business with your bestie.

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Speaker 1: Oh juicy, exciting and.

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Speaker 4: Beck, I feel like we have someone you might be

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Speaker 4: able to give us a little insight into that today, I do.

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Speaker 4: It does feel like we have someone in the room

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Speaker 4: with us today, a nice, bright energy. We are super

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Speaker 4: excited to be joined by someone who I think will

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Speaker 4: have some really amazing insights to share today. Laura Henshaw

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Speaker 4: is the CEO and co founder of health and.

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Speaker 1: Finis app Kick.

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Speaker 5: She's a podcaster and a columnist, among so many other things.

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Speaker 6: Welcome Laura, thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 3: I'm so excited to be here, and I also I

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Speaker 3: come bearing gifts for anyone that has heard of Kick.

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Speaker 3: If you're thinking what the heck you're talking about, you'll

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Speaker 3: find out a little bit in this episode. But if

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Speaker 3: you have heard of Kick and you have wanted to

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Speaker 3: give it a go, it's an app that I.

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Speaker 6: Am the founder of and the CEO of.

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Speaker 3: We have over a thousand recipes, workouts and meditations on there,

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Speaker 3: and if you do want to give it a go,

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Speaker 3: we've got a free month code for your wonderful community,

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Speaker 3: which could be a bit of a money win.

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Speaker 6: I was thinking, we love a good segue.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So the code is money month and if you

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Speaker 3: go onto the website www dot kick app dot com,

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Speaker 3: make an account, put the code in for the monthly membership,

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Speaker 3: then download the app and log in, you can give

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Speaker 3: it a go.

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Speaker 1: Amazing cool, This is so exciting.

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Speaker 5: You're a very impressive, impressive woman about that definitely.

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Speaker 4: We were just talking off air about how you guys

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Speaker 4: celebrated your fifth birthday for Kick very recently.

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Speaker 3: Yes, for the podcast, which is crazy. It honestly has

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Speaker 3: felt like a year or two. Yeah, half a day

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Speaker 3: that as soon as you're an adult time, Yeah. I

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Speaker 3: feel like when you're a kid, it's like I just

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Speaker 3: want to be eighteen. Yeah, and then you're an adult,

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Speaker 3: it's like a five years.

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Speaker 1: I like to get older. How's it Ron's week been?

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Speaker 4: Might's been good? Taylor Swift, anybody else? The Torture Poets Department?

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Speaker 5: I'm one of those not swifties that also don't hate tails.

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Speaker 4: So anyone who doesn't know she dropped an album, we're

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Speaker 4: What is she counting down for? What's happening? Two hours

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Speaker 4: later a second album. She does thirty one songs in

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Speaker 3: I love that I had a I had a good week.

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Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of people. Now it's got

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Speaker 4: A you found appreciation for me able to breathe out

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Speaker 1: How's your We've been back? My week has It's been

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Speaker 5: I've just felt like, you know, when you're like not working,

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 5: So just knowing that I have something to like fill

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Speaker 4: Sounds like you're having a winning week, so do you.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of which, I have some excellent money wins to

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Speaker 4: share with everybody this week. I will start off with Tyler,

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Speaker 4: Next, I have a money win from Stacy, who said

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Speaker 4: I found lots of my berry plants had rooted on

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Speaker 5: Maybe I didn't understand any of those words, but I

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Speaker 4: You know, the berries had babies, and she did to

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Speaker 4: sell the babies on the canes, Yeah, which I think

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Speaker 4: Yes, very exciting. We love that making something from nothing cool. Next,

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Speaker 4: I've got a really good money win for anyone who's

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Speaker 4: planning on traveling to the Goldie anytime soon? From Alisha,

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Speaker 4: two children. That would be four hundred and eighty dollars

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Speaker 4: in tickets. Whoa daylight robbery? Now I understand why we

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Speaker 4: never wanted kids. Hurry, but she said, after doing some

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Speaker 4: She organized early check in, and so they're staying accommodated

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Speaker 1: That is really cool. And then they have like a

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Speaker 3: I don't know what Free World accommodations like. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: to call that a money win. That's a big win,

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Speaker 3: totally big win. Well done, Alisha.

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Speaker 4: Next, I've got one from Jesse her excellent name, who

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Speaker 4: It's like when you buy fabric and this is very

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Speaker 4: And you're like, absolutely I would.

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Speaker 5: It is similar to like when you're like in the

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm not going to leave to exactly I'll give

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Speaker 4: Oh my boyfriend youly for one square one?

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Speaker 1: Okay. It's a toxic trait.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that is so cheeky.

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Speaker 4: And then lastly, I've got a very on theme win

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Speaker 4: from zoeh said money win.

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Speaker 1: Taylor put all her bonus tracks straight onto.

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Speaker 4: Streaming so I don't have to buy all the album

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Speaker 1: We love that a queen being so considerate.

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Speaker 4: Now, Laura, we've been asking everyone who comes in if

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Speaker 3: I think it's only in Victoria, So if you live

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Speaker 5: Adobe, if you're listening for some reason to this podcast,

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Speaker 3: I do, and mine can come off the back of yours,

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Speaker 6: They will very often match it.

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Speaker 4: All right, Well, why don't we head to a really

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Speaker 4: quick break and on the other side, we're going to

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Speaker 1: So don't go anywhere. Welcome back everyone. Here's our money dilemma.

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Speaker 6: Hi.

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Speaker 7: There, have you got a money dilemma you just can't solve?

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Speaker 7: The Sheese on the Money team is here to help.

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Speaker 7: Every week, we tackle your dilemmas, both big and small,

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Speaker 8: Hey guys, I'm single, and I'm on seventy five k

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Speaker 1: One week, my.

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Speaker 8: Savings will be better, but my food habit's not great.

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Speaker 1: Any advice would be so welcome.

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Speaker 8: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry feeling stressed.

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Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of people are feeling stressed

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Speaker 4: to feel like they have to choose between their help

444
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Speaker 4: or some level of financial stability. And that's not a

445
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Speaker 4: reflector on you. That is very much a reflection of

446
00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,440
Speaker 4: the financial climate and the way things are structured, which

447
00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,199
Speaker 4: is just awful. So I just want to say, firstly,

448
00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,520
Speaker 4: it's not you, like You're not the problem.

449
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Speaker 1: Here, but I.

450
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Speaker 4: Feel like, obviously, Laura, you are the co founder of Kick.

451
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Speaker 4: You guys are all about health and balance and all

452
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Speaker 4: those sorts of things. So I feel like you maybe

453
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Speaker 4: have some good insight to share.

454
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Speaker 3: Sure, yes, so, as you said, just just to echo

455
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Speaker 3: what Jess said, it is just horrible to feel like

456
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Speaker 3: we have to choose between looking after our bodies and

457
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Speaker 3: our health and then wanting to.

458
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Speaker 1: Have financial stability.

459
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Speaker 3: However, I do think and this is actually going back

460
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Speaker 3: to when we first started Kick in twenty fifteen with

461
00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,600
Speaker 3: our ebook was recipes, and the point of the kind

462
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Speaker 3: of recipe food part of Kick was wanting to kind

463
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Speaker 3: of reframe healthy eating as it being able to be

464
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Speaker 3: accessible and also affordable. I think there's quite a bit

465
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Speaker 3: of misconception that do eat healthy, you have to go

466
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Speaker 3: to the organic food store and like buy really expensive

467
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Speaker 3: food and everything has to be organic, and that's not

468
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Speaker 3: feasible for most people in society unless you value that

469
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Speaker 3: very highly and that's your core spending area and then

470
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Speaker 3: the rest you save. And so for us at Kick,

471
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Speaker 3: what's really important is making healthy eating accessible and so

472
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Speaker 3: in thinking through how to eat healthy while saving money,

473
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Speaker 3: there's a few things that I think can really help.

474
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Speaker 3: So the first one being when things are trending, especially

475
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Speaker 3: within the health space. We see things trending, it goes

476
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Speaker 3: kind of from one thing to the other, they usually

477
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Speaker 3: go up in price significantly. And so it is so

478
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Speaker 3: for example, if anything becomes in quotation mark superfood, Like

479
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Speaker 3: there was a time when oats was it, and oats

480
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Speaker 3: is amazing.

481
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Speaker 6: Really really healthy food, part of a.

482
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Speaker 3: For part of our diet that we can eat delicious,

483
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Speaker 3: you know, great for breakfast, however you're going to eat

484
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Speaker 3: you're ever going to eat it. But there was a

485
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Speaker 3: time when it was labeled a superfood and it went up.

486
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Speaker 3: Take crassing anytime that that happens, because then the food

487
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Speaker 3: starts to become popular. So then more brands or new

488
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Speaker 3: brands to kind of like, okay, I'm going to make

489
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Speaker 3: this into a product. Then you end up paying for

490
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Speaker 3: a lot of the branding and kind of all of

491
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Speaker 3: the superfoodness around it. When it's trending, and it's that

492
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Speaker 3: can push our what we're spending on our food, it

493
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Speaker 3: can increase the food bilt quite significantly. So not feeling

494
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Speaker 3: like we have to you know, follow all the health

495
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Speaker 3: trends is really important and just.

496
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Speaker 1: Always trip it back to basics.

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Speaker 3: The second thing is around canned foods like lagrooms and beans.

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Speaker 6: They're really great high sources of protein.

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Speaker 3: There's something that you can buy when they're on sales,

500
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Speaker 3: so you can stock up if they're half priza balls

501
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 3: or coals or wherever you buy them, and.

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Speaker 1: They they last for ages. Yeah, true.

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Speaker 3: And then also that you can add them into casseroles

504
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Speaker 3: or whatever, like slow especially we now go into winter

505
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 3: slow cooked meals to help bulk up the protein without

506
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Speaker 3: having to add extra meat. So if you do eat meat,

507
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 3: and meat is expensive, it's the usually the most expensive

508
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Speaker 3: thing in our kind of grocery bill of what we're buying,

509
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Speaker 3: So you can bulk up the protein with the more

510
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Speaker 3: affordable item in the lagrooms, and they're really really good

511
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Speaker 3: for us.

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Speaker 1: I just realized I've been pronouncing that wrong way, have I?

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Speaker 1: How do you say it? I say leg you which.

514
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Speaker 3: I think it's definitely tomato or tomato. I think you

515
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Speaker 3: can say either.

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Speaker 6: I think you can absolutely say either.

517
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Speaker 1: Embarrassed, no, no, no.

518
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Speaker 3: No no. There's probably people listening, being like every time

519
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Speaker 3: I said it's screaming like that is not how you

520
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Speaker 3: say it. However, you say legoo or how did you

521
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Speaker 3: say leg You like, so, I think that's fine. I

522
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Speaker 3: think it's fine, can be however you say it, beans, whatever, lentils,

523
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Speaker 3: et cetera.

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Speaker 6: Really good for saving money and.

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Speaker 3: Also very very healthy, and but they're just not again

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Speaker 3: they're not they're probably right now not trending in quotation marks.

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Speaker 1: So we don't have anxiety exactly.

528
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 3: We don't think like, oh, they're really really healthy, but

529
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Speaker 3: they are full of and packed with nutrients.

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Speaker 1: So that's a good tip.

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Speaker 3: It's also really important to shop seasonally, so within your

532
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Speaker 3: and also change the recipes that you're making seasonally as well.

533
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Speaker 3: So you might have a favorite recipe that you love,

534
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 3: but it actually might be double the cost to prepare

535
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 3: that recipe in winter versus summer because the ingredients might

536
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Speaker 3: be out of season. There's times when capsicins are eighteen

537
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 3: dollars a kilo.

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Speaker 6: Who So there's one of my.

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Speaker 3: Favorite recipes in kick is we have this One the

540
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Speaker 3: most popular recipes is always the one pot ones because

541
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Speaker 3: no dishes, you just put it all in the pot.

542
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Speaker 3: But there's one that uses a lot of capskicins. I

543
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 3: think the one pot for heater bowl. It's so delicious

544
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Speaker 3: Mexican for heater Bowl. But during the time when Capsicans

545
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Speaker 3: are out of season, that's not a good recipe to

546
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Speaker 3: make because it's so expensive because it needs about six capsicins,

547
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Speaker 3: so it's shopping seasonally.

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Speaker 6: And then the other thing is prepping.

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Speaker 3: Meal Prepping is very very important for saving money when

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Speaker 3: you go to the shop and wheel to it. You know,

551
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Speaker 3: when you go and you shop for one meal at

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00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 3: a time, and it's hard because you know you had

553
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 3: a busy weekend and you didn't do it, and then

554
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 3: you know it's better than getting often more affordable than

555
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 3: getting takeaway, but you then buy all this random stuff

556
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 3: that you don't need and it ends up being way

557
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 3: more expensive per meal than if you prep. So prepping

558
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 3: what you're going to make for the full week that way,

559
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 3: then you could buy So for example, if you're going

560
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 3: to use chicken, you could make three meals with chicken,

561
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 3: and you can bulk buy the chicken, so it's cheaper.

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Speaker 3: You can also as well in terms of meal prepping,

563
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Speaker 3: which is really because if you think about if you

564
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Speaker 3: get home you're so tired, you don't have any like

565
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 3: you just you can't blow cooking and you orto Uber Eats,

566
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 3: they can cost like ten dollars in delivery, and Uber

567
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 3: eats as well. Often things are about thirty percent more

568
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Speaker 3: than if you actually go into that particular shop and

569
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Speaker 3: order it, just because obviously the shop has to.

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Speaker 1: Make the charge on it, exactly right.

571
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Speaker 3: But the surcharge of the actual cost of things on

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Speaker 3: Uber eats is more like there's a chicken shop near me,

573
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Speaker 3: where the chicken might be about I don't know, fifteen

574
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 3: dollars if you are, probably more, I can't remember, but

575
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 3: just say, for Shane dollars if you buy in the shop,

576
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,199
Speaker 3: or twenty five dollars on uber each. Yes, so I

577
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 3: think that's important to acknowledge. But then within that kind

578
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 3: of Uber eats order, just say you end up spending

579
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 3: thirty dollars on a meal when because you just can't

580
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Speaker 3: be bothered. And for some people meal prepping and thinking

581
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 3: or for me, like meal prepping every meal for the week,

582
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 3: like eating out of having a container with chicken and

583
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 3: rice whatever is easy to meal prep is so unappealing.

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Speaker 1: I completely we all know that.

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Speaker 3: Like if you bring lunch to work and it's the

586
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Speaker 3: same lunch you had every day for the week, and

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Speaker 3: of course that as soon as one person's like, you

588
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 3: want to go get immediately? Do you like guizmind and goment?

589
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 1: Do you call it guzzies guzzies or.

590
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Speaker 4: But I love it?

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Speaker 1: I think you call it guzzies.

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Speaker 3: I mean, okay, whatever saying let's go get you know,

593
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 3: let's go get sushi or whatever it might be.

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Speaker 6: You're so much you're gonna be like, yeah, I have

595
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 6: eaten this same lunch.

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Speaker 1: It has like ten days.

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00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 3: So it's with meal prepping. It's important to remember that.

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Speaker 3: I think some people like I just can't do that,

599
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Speaker 3: So I can't meal prep. But there's many ways that

600
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 3: you can do it. It might be making a you

601
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Speaker 3: might have bolonnaise for dinner one night, making more of

602
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 3: that sauce, freezing that in the freezer, so then when

603
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Speaker 3: you in the whatever week you know you're gonna have

604
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 3: a really big day, defrost that in the morning you

605
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Speaker 3: get home.

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00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,479
Speaker 1: You still cook the pasta fresh.

607
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 3: You can add a little bit more vegetables or something,

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00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 3: so it feels like a new, exciting meal. You haven't

609
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Speaker 3: had bolonaise every single day for the past six days, and.

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00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 1: You're over it.

611
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 3: But it's still a really easy, affordable meal to meal

612
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Speaker 3: prep so really thinking about what type of meal prep

613
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 3: works for you and then letting that you know, working

614
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 3: in with that instead of just thinking I just kind

615
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 3: of the same meal every day.

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Speaker 6: The other one is shopping at the market.

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Speaker 3: Often, if you are near a market for fruit and vege,

618
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 3: it can be a really affordable way to buy fruit

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Speaker 3: and veg.

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Speaker 6: So I find when I.

621
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Speaker 3: Do do my shop at the market, it is I

622
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Speaker 3: get the fruit and veg is super fresh, and they

623
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 3: always have specials that mean that you might you know,

624
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 3: they might be a special of I don't know, potatoes

625
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 3: or whatever, bananda, something is really reduce So then it's like, okay,

626
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 3: how could you make that vegetable or whatever it might

627
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 3: be work for you?

628
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 6: True in that way, yes, to reduce the food cost.

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00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, can you freeze the bananas and use them in

630
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 4: a cyball exactly right?

631
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 6: Or smoothies or whatever it might be.

632
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 3: But it's thinking about how can you and not I

633
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 3: think it's just kind of not feeling like you have

634
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 3: to buy into the trends when it comes to health,

635
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 3: and it's really stripping it back to basics. And I

636
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 3: mean that that's a big part of why we started

637
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 3: kick because.

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00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 6: Healthy doesn't have to be trendy or show. It's not.

639
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 3: It's it's stripping it back to basics and it's a

640
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 3: healthy meal is like meat and three bedge if that's

641
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 3: what you want to eat or whatever it is. It

642
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 3: can be affordable, it's but it's reframing I think what

643
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 3: we think health looks like, yeah, versus what it actually is.

644
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 3: It's way less glamorous than you know what. I think

645
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 3: sometimes social media makes it seem seem like.

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00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 5: Does need to be super complex because exactly totally, I

647
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 5: completely agree with that, and I feel like you've really

648
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 5: kind of like captured everything there. But I guess, like

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00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 5: just to add to that, exactly as we were saying before,

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Speaker 5: like going to your woolies, your Harris farms sometimes like

651
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 5: and don't I know that it's not really a Harris

652
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 5: farm in Victoria, I don't think, but like in New

653
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 5: South Wales they will have like bags of veggies for

654
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 5: like two dollars or something, and just like exactly as

655
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 5: you say, like finding a way to make that work

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00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 5: for you for the week, going back next week and

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00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 5: seeing what other like weird little specials bags of like

658
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 5: miscellaneous fruits and bands they have and things like that

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Speaker 5: I recently just bought a box of good and fugly,

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00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 5: which is like you and fuggly. Yeah, it's like fruits

661
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 5: and begs that they're gonna throw out because they're fugly. Yeah,

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00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 5: but they're really still good for you. And like it's

663
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Speaker 5: pro it's like thirty nine dollars a box, but like you.

664
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Speaker 1: Have, there's so much in there.

665
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Speaker 5: So I feel like, you know, doing that like going

666
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Speaker 5: to places where it's like you know, cheaper by miles

667
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Speaker 5: for example, which I know again is something that's probably

668
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Speaker 5: only in Melbourne. I think it's like things that are

669
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Speaker 5: you know, either being discontinued but still good or.

670
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Speaker 3: Ugly vegetables and things like that and still got the

671
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Speaker 3: same amount of nutrients exactly c has a hole in

672
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 3: it or if it has a worm, but if it's bent,

673
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 3: if it's bent, it's still not exactly the same amount

674
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Speaker 3: of means exactly exactly.

675
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Speaker 5: Yeah, totally, And I feel like, yeah, pre planning your

676
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 5: meals and things like that, you can kind of like

677
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 5: see that you don't actually need that much to get

678
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 5: a like kind of like a lot of nutrients out

679
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 5: of like fruits, vegetables, legumes and things like that, like

680
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 5: I when I was trying to eat really healthy, I

681
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 5: was like, I need to eat the rainbow in every meal,

682
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 5: Like you don't need to do that, you know, you

683
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 5: could just have like some frozen broccoli.

684
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: Also go frozen. I feel like it's.

685
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 5: A really good way to get your fruits and veggies

686
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 5: in cheap and also easy to prepare, easy to cook,

687
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 5: all that kind of stuff. And also it's like frozen

688
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 5: at time of harvest. I think, I don't know, I

689
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Speaker 5: made that up.

690
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 3: So maybe it's like they're fresh what's they're called fresh

691
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 3: sat frozen sat press and exactly right, so they keep

692
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 3: a lot of the nutrients. But I think a lot

693
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 3: of people, again, frozen vegetables are not glamorous.

694
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Speaker 6: They're not you know, you don't go to a.

695
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 3: Cafe that's super in quotation makes healthy and they still

696
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 3: be frozen vegetables. So but it is such a good option,

697
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 3: and they're already prepped, so it's so much easier.

698
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: Just exactly exactly. But yeah, you're doing your best and

699
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: that's all you can do. I agree.

700
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Speaker 4: Also, see if you can, like one little thing for

701
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 4: me is see if you can make your leftovers into

702
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 4: like grow your leftovers, So like Avocados, for example, are

703
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 4: really easy. If you take the pit of your avocado

704
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 4: and you put a little skewy in it, and you

705
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 4: put it over water, you can grow an avocado plant

706
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 4: and grow an avocado. True, a lot of herbs are

707
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 4: the same, Like if you buy fresh herbs, you can

708
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 4: then propagate those and plant them and then you never

709
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 4: have to buy the herb again. So like just little things,

710
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,479
Speaker 4: which I know that that might seem a little extreme,

711
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 4: like it seems like a lot of effort, but if

712
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 4: you're really having a tough time, I think financially, it's

713
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 4: about how can you extend everything? Also, using this is

714
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 4: embarrassing for me, but how can you use the whole thing?

715
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 4: I used to only use the leaves of pacty and

716
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 4: I would chuck the bottom pit.

717
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Speaker 1: It turns out you can cook that.

718
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Speaker 4: I didn't know that bokchoy packed toaktoy, bokchoy, they're different

719
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 4: variations of like the bottom is, so there you go,

720
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Speaker 4: But now now I know.

721
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Speaker 1: But I think there are a lot.

722
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Speaker 4: Of like things that maybe like a recipe cause for

723
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Speaker 4: a certain part of a vegetable, but for the most part,

724
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 4: you can cook and use the whole thing. So like

725
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 4: figuring out learning, not being dumb like me and not

726
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 4: really hot. I don't know, I feel stupid now, but

727
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 4: learn for my mistakes, like use all of those things,

728
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 4: use leftovers to grow things if you can, because all

729
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 4: those little bits add up. But also I think, don't

730
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 4: beat yourself up if you have a week where you're like,

731
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Speaker 4: I can only do this and it's not as healthy

732
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Speaker 4: as I wanted to be. I think like health is

733
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 4: often and all or nothing thing in our minds, and

734
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Speaker 4: it's not.

735
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Speaker 6: It's not at all.

736
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Speaker 1: And just don't beat yourself up.

737
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Speaker 4: I think, because that's something that I've been guilty of

738
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 4: in the past, is I set this goal or this

739
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 4: expectation for myself and then I don't get there, and

740
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 4: I feel really awful about myself and that it's harder

741
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 4: to get back on the horse, and it's it's a

742
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 4: whole thing. So I think you're doing your best, and

743
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 4: it's awesome that you've identified that you need to have

744
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 4: this emergency fund, and I'm so happy that you're prioritizing

745
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 4: that because that will bring you, I think a lot

746
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 4: of peace of mind, and if that sometimes comes at

747
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 4: the cost of you not eating in the way that

748
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 4: you wanted to. As long as you are feeding yourself

749
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 4: the nutrients that you need, that's all that matters. Like,

750
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Speaker 4: as long as you are getting what you need and

751
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 4: you're surviving and you are doing your best, and we're

752
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 4: so proud of you just for doing that, I think.

753
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 4: So please, don't feel bad. You are doing autumn great advice.

754
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 3: Yess.

755
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 4: Wow, them and me feel empowered. Oh good, I'm so

756
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 4: glad not to fully switch June. But do we want

757
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 4: to chat about this week's juicy Juicy DM?

758
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Speaker 6: Yes?

759
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Speaker 1: Please? All right?

760
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Speaker 4: So the DM says this, Hey, girls, So, my best

761
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 4: friend of ten years and I have been talking for

762
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Speaker 4: quite some time about starting a business together. It's going

763
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Speaker 4: to be a jewelry brand, and we've put heaps of

764
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 4: time and effort into this and we're finally ready to

765
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 4: kickstart things. Whilst I'm so excited, I'm thinking is it

766
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Speaker 4: a bad idea to mix business and friendship? What do

767
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Speaker 4: we do if we have a disagreement? How do we

768
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Speaker 4: navigate different opinions, especially because as we have very different

769
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Speaker 4: ways of resolving conflict. On first glance, starting a business

770
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Speaker 4: with my bestie sounds like so much fun, But I'm

771
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Speaker 4: afraid it will have a negative impact on our friendship.

772
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Speaker 4: My dad once worked with his best friend and the

773
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Speaker 4: job went bad and they ended up losing the friendship.

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Speaker 4: So my question is what's your best advice for navigating

775
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Speaker 4: owning business with a friend and what do you do

776
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Speaker 4: when you need to have tough conversations. Also on the

777
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 4: flip side, do you think there are any great advantages

778
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Speaker 4: we should know about?

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Speaker 1: That's a good question, and who better.

780
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Speaker 3: And someone who has worked with their best friend for

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Speaker 3: since twenty fifteen, so almost ten years now, almost a

782
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Speaker 3: full decade that we've been working.

783
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Speaker 6: On Kick or some you know before Kick was Kick,

784
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Speaker 6: I can offer some advice on that.

785
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Speaker 3: So I think when we first started, people definitely said

786
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Speaker 3: to us, never go in I mean it's something that

787
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Speaker 3: I think we just have. It's been embedded into our

788
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 3: belief system. Never go into business with a friend, Yeah,

789
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 3: because you know, I will ruin your friendship and all

790
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 3: of those things. I think it's really important to try

791
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 3: and take that noise out of your decision because what

792
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 3: other people's experiences are. While they might be helpful if

793
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 3: they're exactly the same as you, they often can cloud

794
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 3: our judgment because every experience is different for everyone, so

795
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Speaker 3: in making the decision, obviously it's especially if it is

796
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 3: from your dad who shared that with you, it can

797
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 3: make it a little bit harder because that is very

798
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 3: close to home. But I think definitely take it on board,

799
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Speaker 3: but don't let that cloud your decision. I think the

800
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 3: most important thing to start out with, and a big

801
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 3: part of how Steph and I have been able to

802
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 3: work the way that we have for such a long

803
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 3: time is being very aligned. And this is I do

804
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 3: not think you can go into business with anyone if

805
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 3: it's your friend or not, if you are not aligned

806
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 3: on the vision and where you want to take the business.

807
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 3: That includes at what point will you pay yourselves? What

808
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 3: are you both doing in the business, like, what are

809
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 3: you both bringing to the tape? And it's really important

810
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 3: that that's different if it is the same. That's something

811
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 3: that I have seen in many kind of business or

812
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 3: business partner relationships where you bring the same skill set,

813
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 3: that can become quite difficult once when you start you're

814
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 3: kind of doing everything, and when you bring a team on,

815
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 3: that can become.

816
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: A little bit difficult.

817
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 3: So it's really important that you're and also so then

818
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 3: it doesn't make sense to start. If you're starting a

819
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 3: business and you're going to give half of it, or

820
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 3: if it's your idea, or maybe a lot of the

821
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 3: ideas together. But if you're going to give half of

822
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 3: the equity of your business to someone else and they're

823
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 3: going to give it to you, you need to do

824
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 3: that for a reason, right, And we are going to

825
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 3: start this business together and we're going to be the

826
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Speaker 3: best people to do this because we bring X, Y

827
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Speaker 3: and Z to the table.

828
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Speaker 6: So it's really important to be clear on that.

829
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Speaker 1: Set clear.

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Speaker 3: It's all about communication and setting expectations because if you

831
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Speaker 3: haven't set an expectation that for example, if you're working

832
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 3: going to work full time in the business, but your

833
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 3: business partner still has a job and it's going to

834
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Speaker 3: do it after hours, being really clear on what are

835
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 3: your expectations if you're working full time, are you going

836
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 3: to be paid for that time because they're being paid

837
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 3: in their job. What are the expectations on them in

838
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 3: the hours that they're going to do Because when that

839
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 3: goes unspoken and there's kind of assumptions, no assumptions, don't

840
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 3: go into any business arrangement with assumptions. It's important to

841
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 3: have an agreement it's interesting everyone said, this is Sep

842
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 3: and I and we had one and we actually ended

843
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 3: up never looking at it. But it is important to have,

844
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 3: you know, just in case. So you've got that down

845
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 3: and then as you kind of navigated and you know,

846
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 3: for Stephanis as I said, it's almost been a decade.

847
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 3: What's really important to enable is to never stop communicating

848
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 3: because as humans, our wants and our needs change, and

849
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 3: that's okay. And if you are with this jury business,

850
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 3: which sounds amazing, going to go into business, it might

851
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 3: be a ten year journey, it might be five, it

852
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 3: might be one, it might be twenty years.

853
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 6: You don't know.

854
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,959
Speaker 1: But over that time you will both evolve.

855
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 3: As people and what you want will change, and so

856
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 3: it is very important that you create safe space to

857
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 3: enable those conversations to speak about what you want and

858
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 3: if it changes, to.

859
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: Have that conversation.

860
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 3: So you might have when you start, you might think, okay,

861
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 3: we want to grow this business and have brick and

862
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 3: mortar stores. We want to have, you know, all around Australia,

863
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 3: and that's the goal. There might be something that happens

864
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 3: in either one of the business partner's lives where that

865
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 3: no longer is what they want. You don't want to

866
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 3: be in business with someone who doesn't want to be

867
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 3: there anymore, or who's like feeling like they're not living,

868
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 3: you know, or being in that business because being a

869
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 3: foundry is all encompassing and it consumes a lot of

870
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 3: your life. You don't want to be in business with

871
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 3: someone who even though they started by wanting one thing,

872
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: it then changed and then they feel unhappy. You don't

873
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 3: want to be in business someone who's unhappy.

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Speaker 6: You want to.

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00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 3: Enable that conversation and be comfortable that things may change

876
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 3: and you will find a solution, but you have to

877
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 3: open the space to talk through it.

878
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's something that Steph and I have learned

879
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 6: along the journey.

880
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 3: It's very easy to get caught up in just day

881
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 3: to day kind of this has to be done, and

882
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 3: this has to be done without taking space and time

883
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 3: to sit down and say like, hey, how are you

884
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 3: how are you going? Because there's there is going to

885
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 3: be things that you're both going to do that are

886
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 3: going to maybe annoy each other.

887
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 6: It's inevitable, exactly right, But it's so important that you

888
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 6: work through them.

889
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 3: Because otherwise you can build things like resentment and you

890
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 3: start to have this kind of you can build an

891
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 3: elephant within your partnership. Often this is also advice for

892
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 3: like a lot of relationships in our lives, but especially

893
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 3: you know as business partners that you could have avoided

894
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 3: by just having a conversation, and you are going to

895
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 3: have to have uncomfortable conversations. I think that's something that

896
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 3: we and I don't know if it's through COVID or

897
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 3: in the way that we live in Like for example,

898
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 3: on Facebook, your algorithm is very close to what you

899
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 3: believe because Facebook it knows what you.

900
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: Believe, so you'll serve what you believe.

901
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 3: And sometimes we become very or we have I think,

902
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 3: become very uncomfortable with uncomfort stable conversations saying something that

903
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 3: you so for example, just say you want to do

904
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 3: the bricks one wants to do. You had an idea

905
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 3: you're going to do the brick and mortar stores, but

906
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 3: then one said, hey, I actually don't want this anymore.

907
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 3: I want to take the business global, or I want

908
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: to step out of the business, or whatever it might be.

909
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 3: That is going to be an uncomfortable conversation because you're

910
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 3: changing your mind. But it is okay to change your

911
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 3: mind it is okay to voice those things, and if

912
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 3: you avoid it, it just gets really, really, really hard.

913
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 3: So that's the most important advice that I would have

914
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 3: is know that you have to create a safe space

915
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 3: to have those conversations that you have the respect And

916
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 3: this is what Sep and I like we have. I'm

917
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 3: so grateful to be able to work with someone who

918
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: trusts me wholeheartedly and respects me wholeheartedly. And I know

919
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 3: going into any uncomfortable conversation that we have that we

920
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 3: both want the best. It's obviously important to say what

921
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 3: we want, but we also want the best for each other.

922
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 3: And we're not going in thinking like, oh, I'm going

923
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 3: to say this and I just really want to piss

924
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 3: the other person off or whatever.

925
00:39:59,040 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: It's like.

926
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 3: No, we're going in because we value and respect our

927
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 3: friendship so much first before our kind of business partnership

928
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 3: that we want to protect it so then we can

929
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 3: be the best.

930
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 6: Business partners for our team and then for the mission

931
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:12,240
Speaker 6: and et cetera.

932
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 4: How you found that, as you know, you guys have

933
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 4: been in business for such a long time. You know

934
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 4: you've been friends for way longer from what I understand, right,

935
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 4: did any point your relationship suffer because of work, not

936
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 4: because necessarily you're having conflict, but just I can imagine

937
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 4: if you see someone every day at the office or whatever,

938
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 4: then making time outside of work might not seem like

939
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 4: such a priority or did it impact the relationship at

940
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 4: all between you guys in those kinds of ways.

941
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 3: It definitely goes through seasons, like all kind of relationships

942
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 3: that we have in our lives. I think it is

943
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 3: that something that's really important is making time outside of

944
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 3: work to spend together where you don't talk about work

945
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 3: and you nourish that you know, that beautiful friendship. That's

946
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 3: why you started working together in the first place, and

947
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 3: that is very, very important. And so absolutely there's been

948
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 3: times we and it's come from avoiding conversations and we

949
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 3: avoided and this has been a journey for us. We

950
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 3: didn't avoid them because we were like, oh, I just

951
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 3: want to build this up my head and make this

952
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 3: big story out. We avoided them because we were trying

953
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 3: to protect the And this is what we're working through

954
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 3: is we tell each other like ninety seven percent, but

955
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 3: the three percent that we don't share is and I

956
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 3: think this is very prominent in many relationships. Is not

957
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 3: because we want to keep anything from each other, but

958
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 3: it's because we're trying to protect the other one. Yeah,

959
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 3: from that three percent, it might be something that we want,

960
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 3: but we're like, that's going to be uncomfortable to talk through.

961
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 3: That's going to I don't know if that's going to

962
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 3: be the best thing for them. But again, this is

963
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 3: all assumptions. This is all assumptions of what you think,

964
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 3: like for me, like maybe what I thought Seph would think,

965
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 3: or what Seth Goood I would think. And that protecting

966
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 3: each other, which is always a good intention, has been

967
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 3: sometimes the reason that we've avoided conversations and let them

968
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 3: build up and then we've had an it's been like,

969
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 3: oh my god, why don't we talk about this six

970
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 3: months ago? But because we're trying to protect each other

971
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 3: based on assumptions that are not true, it became this

972
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 3: big thing and it didn't need to be exactly and

973
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 3: even some of it's a smaller thing or bigger thing.

974
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 3: And in an assumption, it's kind of thinking, Okay, I

975
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 3: can't say this because I think even in whatever relationship,

976
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 3: this person is going to say this back. This is

977
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 3: how it's going to impact them. You don't know how

978
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 3: it's going to impact them. But to not have conversations

979
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,479
Speaker 3: because of these assumptions that are most likely not true,

980
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 3: it can be very dangerous for relationships.

981
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, completely, Yeah, I completely agree with everything you're saying.

982
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: It's all about communication.

983
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 5: And when you were reading this out, I was kind

984
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 5: of thinking it could work until it got to the

985
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 5: point where she said that they have different conflict resolution styles,

986
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 5: and like that obviously not our whole friendship relationship. You know,

987
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 5: whatever it looks like is going to be conflict after conflict.

988
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 5: But if you deal with differently, I can only assume

989
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 5: that the kind of like communication styles are also quite different. Also,

990
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 5: if it does get to a point where like, sure

991
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 5: you've had an uncomfortable situation where you have you have

992
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 5: had an uncomfortable conversation and it's turned into a conflict,

993
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 5: it's already kind of gone through all the steps of

994
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 5: like gentle conversation, uncomfortable conversation. Now it's a conflict, And

995
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 5: then I just can't see that going very well. Like

996
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 5: if you do have different conflict resolution styles, like it

997
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 5: can work if everyone's like this is how you like

998
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 5: to do it, and so I like to do it,

999
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 5: So let's compromise, And it's kind of like.

1000
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: And create a process before you go into business of

1001
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 3: how are we going to create And if they have

1002
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 3: different conflicts styles and maybe communication styles, it's possible and

1003
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 3: it's very likely one would feel more comfortable with being

1004
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 3: possibly dominant and maybe not dominant, but with conflict and

1005
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 3: a certainness, and then one may not and that can

1006
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 3: be quite dangerous in a relationship. Don't acknowledge it and

1007
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 3: speak about it. So maybe it's speaking through that totally.

1008
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 3: As you said, how what is your conflict resolution and style? Look,

1009
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 3: maybe not even starting with conflict because you don't want

1010
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 3: to get to conflict you want to rename it as

1011
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 3: and reframe it as communications style as you said, and

1012
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 3: working through differences exactly. But you're always wanting the best

1013
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 3: of the business, right yeah, And so talking about it

1014
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 3: before and how we work through this and being really

1015
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 3: honest about how that when that whatever the other person

1016
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 3: does for conflict resolution, how that makes you feel and

1017
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 3: vice versa, So then you can maybe work through can

1018
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,919
Speaker 3: we actually navigate this, because that's so true, it would

1019
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 3: be quite difficult if that's not addressed totally.

1020
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: My best friend and I just really quickly.

1021
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 5: Well, she owns a coffee van, but we used to

1022
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 5: run one together in Sorrento, beautiful Sorrento, and we like

1023
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 5: we're still like best friends to this day, and we

1024
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 5: do argue a lot. We're kind of like, you know,

1025
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 5: like an old married couple, so we're very comfortable arguing

1026
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 5: with each other. But when we were doing this, because

1027
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 5: she she's kind of the type that would there would

1028
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 5: be like a bit of an issue. She wants to

1029
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 5: go away and think about it and then come back

1030
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 5: when all of his thoughts are in order and then

1031
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 5: discuss it. But I like, just want to talk about

1032
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 5: it right here, right now, and let's just like let's

1033
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 5: just sit down. Let's just like calm down and talk.

1034
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 5: I cannot like let it simmer, but she must have

1035
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 5: let it simmer. So we realized very quickly we weren't

1036
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 5: very good as business partners or whatever that was. And

1037
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 5: so I think, yeah, it just you know exactly, just

1038
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 5: like it's all about communication. Just talk about it, just

1039
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 5: talk about it.

1040
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1041
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 4: No, I'm the only person who hasn't gone into business

1042
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 4: or someone, so I don't know that I'm the best

1043
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 4: person to talk about it. But I will say I

1044
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 4: have observed many a business partnership fall apart, and not

1045
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 4: to be the downer, but I will say that not

1046
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 4: every set of friends is made or equipped to go

1047
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 4: into business together, even if the intentions are the best

1048
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 4: of the best. So I would really make sure that

1049
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 4: you sit with it and think about it because I think,

1050
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 4: you know, I do have a small business, and a

1051
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 4: lot of us who have small businesses, you get stuck

1052
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 4: in the thought of small like you're just thinking about

1053
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 4: your current day to day operations and the little things

1054
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 4: that you do. But I think if you're going into

1055
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 4: business ideally like you do want to get to a

1056
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 4: point where you're scaling, whether that's scaling a team, whether

1057
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 4: that's scaling income with that scaling product. And so at

1058
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 4: some point, if everything goes the way that you hope

1059
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 4: it will, you will one day be a bigger business.

1060
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 4: And with a bigger business comes I think significantly more

1061
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 4: challenges and it becomes harder to navigate if you don't

1062
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 4: have that really solid foundation.

1063
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 1: Again, this is just what I've observed. That's very true.

1064
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 6: One hundred percent agree, So.

1065
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 4: I think it is worth reflecting. Now, imagine you and

1066
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 4: your best friend had a team of ten people, or

1067
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 4: imagine you had a business that was turning over half

1068
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 4: a million dollars a year or whatever your ideal big

1069
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,919
Speaker 4: picture endgame looks like, do you think that you could

1070
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 4: still run that business effectively as a team, Because ultimately

1071
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 4: that's what you are. You're a team that is trying

1072
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 4: to build this thing. And so I think if you

1073
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 4: have doubts now, I think it's really important that you

1074
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 4: look into them deeply because it may the outcome may

1075
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 4: be like, there is a possibility that it just might

1076
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 4: not work like as much as you want it too,

1077
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 4: as much as you're the best of friends and you

1078
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 4: want to do this cool thing together, if you have doubts,

1079
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 4: there may be a reason, And so I just I

1080
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 4: would suggest sitting with them and really like reflecting deeply

1081
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 4: on them because it may be a thing that that

1082
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 4: your communication styles are just too different, and you know,

1083
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 4: when you have that conflict, it could tear that relationship apart,

1084
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 4: and you don't want that either. I don't know that

1085
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 4: anything would be worth that. So I think also just

1086
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 4: considering that outcome as an option, I hope that that's

1087
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 4: not the case. Like I want you guys to be

1088
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 4: able to go into business and to build this incredible thing.

1089
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 4: But it's okay if it is it's okay if it

1090
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 4: is absolutely and I've seen many a person go down

1091
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 4: that path and it is very hard on everybody.

1092
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 6: So yeah.

1093
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 1: We did ask a few questions.

1094
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 4: If you guys on our Instagram and she's in the

1095
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 4: money aus, if you want to join in every week,

1096
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Speaker 4: these are so much funds. The first thing we said

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Speaker 4: was would you ever consider starting a business or a

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Speaker 4: side hustle with your friend or somebody close to you.

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Speaker 4: Thirty five percent of people said yes, it would be

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Speaker 4: slight and I would love that, and sixty five percent

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Speaker 4: of people said no, I wouldn't want to risk my friendship. Next,

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Speaker 4: we asked, if you have done this before, how has

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Speaker 4: it impacted your relationship. Thirty percent of people said it's

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Speaker 4: made us closer than ever, and seventy percent of people

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Speaker 4: said we've had some issues. Third thing that we asked

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Speaker 4: was do you think that being besties would make running

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Speaker 4: a business easier or harder?

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Speaker 1: And this was interesting.

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Speaker 4: Twenty three percent of people said easier and seventy seven

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Speaker 4: percent of people said they thought that it would be harder.

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Speaker 4: So I really feel like you and Steph are kind

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Speaker 4: of unicorns in the way that you guys have done

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Speaker 4: so well. But we did ask for a bit more details.

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Speaker 4: We said, what advantages do you think would come with

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Speaker 4: running a business with your bestie?

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Speaker 1: And it was really vary.

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Speaker 4: So some people said, you know, you know how they think,

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Speaker 4: you know how they work. You can work to your

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Speaker 4: strength and your weaknesses, which I think really goes back

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Speaker 4: to what you were saying before, Laura. Someone said the

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Speaker 4: good days would be so much fun, Like just think

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Speaker 4: about how much fun you would have together. Someone said

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Speaker 4: you can understand each other's support and conflict, need, their habits,

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Speaker 4: their triggers, which I think is also I guess the

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Speaker 4: flip side of that's true of the negative is you

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Speaker 4: know or may be able to preempt, But then are

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Speaker 4: we getting into that dangerous territory where you're assuming, So

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Speaker 4: it could be like a little bit of a double

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Speaker 4: edged sword. Lots of people saying your values are likely

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Speaker 4: aligned because you were good friends. You know, if you

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Speaker 4: are best friends, you've built that relationship on respect and

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Speaker 4: honesty and all of those great qualities that we look

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Speaker 4: for in friendships. So that should translate really nicely into

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Speaker 4: a business partner getting to work together all the time,

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Speaker 4: sounds really fun. So overwhelmingly I would say, people seemed

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Speaker 4: pretty positive about it. And so then we said, tell

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Speaker 4: us your two cents. Any other thoughts on mixing business

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Speaker 4: and friendship, And I just want to say, not a

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Speaker 4: word of a lie. The first thing that came up

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Speaker 4: is Stephan Laura from Kick did it and are thriving

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Speaker 4: so many people because it's possible, which I just think

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Speaker 4: is so sweet. Lots of people are saying get contracts

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Speaker 4: and written agreements in place, which I agree with very strongly.

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Speaker 4: I think coming back to that imagining you're a big

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Speaker 4: business when you're small, you go, oh, it doesn't matter,

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Speaker 4: Like it's just the two of us from our garage,

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Speaker 4: Like it's not that big of a deal, it's not

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Speaker 4: that deep. But I think if you treat yourself as

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Speaker 4: that big, big business from the very start, that means

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Speaker 4: having agreements in place. If one person wants to step away,

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Speaker 4: what does that look like? If one person is doing

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Speaker 4: more work than the other person, what does that look like.

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Speaker 4: I think outlining the financial and some of the interpersonal

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Speaker 4: things can help avoid conflict later on. I know you

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Speaker 4: guys said you never used your agreement, but you had

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Speaker 4: one from the beginning, right, had.

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Speaker 3: One, and so it's important to put in there you're

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Speaker 3: depending if you're paying yourself or if you're not.

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Speaker 1: That's really important.

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Speaker 3: Expectations in terms of work hours or however you measure

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Speaker 3: work output, if it's in task, whatever it my old projects,

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Speaker 3: whatever it might be. I think sometimes we can overcomplicate

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Speaker 3: it in thinking we need to solve for so for example,

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Speaker 3: around if someone to leave at one point, that's very

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Speaker 3: hard to solve for and in it because hopefully that

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Speaker 3: doesn't happen. I think it's putting the basics down because

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Speaker 3: you don't want to make it overwhelming, and that like

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Speaker 3: you have to solve for everything in this original contract.

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Speaker 3: I think it is such amazing advice to think about

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Speaker 3: yourself as a big business in that, but try not

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Speaker 3: to also, I think put too much pressure to solve everything.

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Speaker 3: But the really important things is whatever's happening with money,

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Speaker 3: like how you be financially supported and what is the

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Speaker 3: output of each of you going to be. And you

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Speaker 3: could even put in there too that you're going to

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Speaker 3: catch up every month and talk through you know where

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Speaker 3: you're both at, and that the contract is open to

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Speaker 3: changing as you both evolve, which may mean that you

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Speaker 3: can have to solve for actually one of us isn't

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Speaker 3: in this anymore, or whatever.

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Speaker 1: You can always amend or update it later.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, people saying set aside time each week socially where

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Speaker 4: you don't talk about the business at all and can

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Speaker 4: connect as friends is really important. Lots and lots of

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Speaker 4: people saying contracts and boundaries as well, coming clear you know,

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Speaker 4: outside of work, we don't talk about these things, or

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Speaker 4: you know, this day is my day off and I

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Speaker 4: don't want to think about work or things of that nature.

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Speaker 4: Also quite a few people saying it's a bad idea,

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Speaker 4: don't do it. So it's a really mixed bag. But

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Speaker 4: I think ultimately it's really well summed up by what

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Speaker 4: you were saying before, Laura, which is it can be

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Speaker 4: so great and there can be so many wonderful things

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Speaker 4: to it, but you need to set it up for

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Speaker 4: success early, which you know is what you were saying

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Speaker 4: as well back. So I think hopefully that helps answer

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Speaker 4: the question. Has anybody else have any your last thoughts

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Speaker 4: before we s get out all out of here. Personally,

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Speaker 4: I'm okay, you're feeling good, Laura. Thank you for coming

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Speaker 4: in and if peop want to see more of you

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Speaker 4: or of Kick, where can they find you, guys?

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Speaker 3: So you can find us on Instagram atkick dot app.

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Speaker 3: And if you do want to try the app, we've

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Speaker 3: got everything. We've got over a thousand workouts.

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Speaker 4: I love the app meditation to there, thank you, Sammy's

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Speaker 4: workout in my favorite amazing Strength is so good, and

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Speaker 4: the pilates is also great.

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Speaker 6: She's amazing. We've got in that that's so important to them.

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Speaker 3: I really wanted to make sure we shared a code

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Speaker 3: with your community because I know especially and I mean

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Speaker 3: it links in so well to what we spoke about

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Speaker 3: earlier with help making healthy inning acessable, but exercise as well,

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Speaker 3: like a pilates membership, like all of these different like

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Speaker 3: a running program, all of these separate things can add

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Speaker 3: up to a lot, and so at Kick we've wanted

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Speaker 3: to put it all within the one membership.

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Speaker 6: And so if you do want to give it a

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Speaker 6: go and try, if you go onto our.

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Speaker 3: Website www dot kickapp dot com and then sign up

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Speaker 3: to the monthly membership and enter the code money month

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Speaker 3: capital m o n E y m o n t

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Speaker 3: h isaurdays well money month amazing you can try kick

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Speaker 3: and then once you create an account on the website

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Speaker 3: and use the code, then download the app, log in

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Speaker 3: with the same.

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Speaker 6: Details and yeah, you can experience it all. It's great

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Speaker 6: you want to do that, of course, let me know

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Speaker 6: love feedback and thank you so much.

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Speaker 5: Credit so much. It's been so nice having you on.

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Speaker 5: Genuinely like such a treat, So thank you so much.

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Speaker 6: Thanks you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Have a wonderful weekend, guys. If you try.

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Speaker 4: Will see you bright and early on Monday for money

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Speaker 4: Darry see you later, Bye, guys.

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Speaker 7: not be relied upon to make an investment or financial decision.

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Speaker 1: Advice tailored towards your needs.

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