1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: On today's show, m Davies Bridal backtrack, White Fox Boutique 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: under fire for its lengthy delays, and ITV confirms Love 3 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: Island All Stars. Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture news. 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: Twice a week. 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: I'm Kate Torba and TikToker. Taylor Stewart has managed to 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: put into words what I've been feeling about Instagram for 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: a while. So She's described the platform as a high 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: school cafeteria where everyone is watching you and judging you, 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: but no one is supporting you. That is bang on, 11 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: and that is how I've been feeling about Instagram for 12 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: quite some time now. I've not really wanted to post 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: on there, and I've been finding myself more drawn to 14 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: TikTok and wanting to create TikTok content that's creative. 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: Well, that's what Taylor basically said. 16 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: She said that she never wants to share anything exciting 17 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: or creative that she's doing on Instagram because it's full 18 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: of what she calls ghost watches. So, according to Taylor, 19 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: ghost watches are people who follow you but never support you, 20 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: so they never like you content or message you, and 21 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: she went on to say that Instagram no longer has 22 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: a good vibe about it, and it just feels judgy 23 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: and filtered. I really have noticed that because I will 24 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: see a lot of people from high school or UNI 25 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: viewing my Instagram stories, but then I don't have anything else. 26 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: There's no other contact with them, whether it's a like 27 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: or a message or anything. I wonder if it has 28 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: anything to do without age, because being in your thirties, 29 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of friends of mine, I 30 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: only really see them posting those pivotal moments like weddings 31 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: or when they have a child, and a lot of 32 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: them aren't on TikTok. So if I ever post anything 33 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: that's sort of TikTok content on Instagram, that's when I 34 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: feel judged because I feel like they might not understand it. 35 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it does seem to be. 36 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: A gap between millennials that are on TikTok and those 37 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: who are not. Taylor also made an interesting point that 38 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: Instagram is generally the place where people from high school 39 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: still follow you, so they hold onto this old version 40 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: of you, and then when you're putting out content that 41 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: doesn't sort of suit that version, it gets quite awkward. Well, 42 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: That's the freeing thing about TikTok. Isn't it that your 43 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: friends don't really follow you. It's more randoms that are 44 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: into that niche. What I worry about is that TikTok. 45 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure it'll grow in popularity and we'll see older 46 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: people going on there too. I'm worried it will have 47 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: the same effect that Facebook had, because I feel like 48 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: the second your parents on Facebook, you no longer want 49 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: to post your photos from the weekend. You'll have a 50 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: bit of fun with people that you might be dating 51 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: or no. But TikTok is different. The algorithm works so 52 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: differently though, so I don't think you'd have the same problems. 53 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: And also, when it comes to TikTok, you have to 54 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: put a lot of effort into actually creating content, so 55 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: I feel like parents would just be viewing the content 56 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: rather than creating the main difference with TikTok, though, is 57 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: that if you've got an account and you want to 58 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: share something, it has to be a video, so you 59 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: have to get creative yourself. It's funny because TikTok really 60 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,399 Speaker 1: does open itself up to ghost watches. However, I think 61 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: because it's so new, you're not really going to go 62 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: and follow people from high school anymore. 63 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: That would be weird. 64 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: It's this long term relationship you have with Instagram that 65 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: is the issue. 66 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 3: Really, It's such a big and exciting thing and it 67 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 3: just wasn't what I thought it would be. 68 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: On Tuesday, we've reported that Perth influencer m Davies had 69 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: taken aim at two of Australia's most prominent bridal boutiques, 70 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: slamming the customer service and describing the environment in both 71 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: stores as hostile. 72 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: Now. 73 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: Em had originally shared a video showing her first wedding 74 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: dress try and experience at Palascuteur and Stephen Khalil. Days later, 75 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: she uploaded a subsequent video talking about what a let 76 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: down her first wedding dress try and experience was. Now, 77 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: since our segment aired, Em has released a statement denying 78 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: that she was talking about Palascuteur and Stephen Khalil. In 79 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: a statement, she wrote, want to give a big shout 80 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: out to everyone who had reached out in the last 81 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: week read the wedding dress shopping experience. Obviously, this is 82 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: meant to be one of the most exciting days ever 83 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: and I know. 84 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: A lot of people could relate to it. I do 85 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: want to. 86 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: Specify this experience was not at Palascuteur or Stephen Khalil, 87 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: so everyone can stop speculating based off my picks, and 88 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: then had a laughing face, thank you. It seems like 89 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: she's gone into damage control because she has also removed 90 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: her TikTok rant about the bridle stores as well as 91 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: her first wedding dress try on experience, so pears that 92 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: she has made this statement based on our segment. I 93 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: love how she's gaslighting her audience, being like, oh you know, 94 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: I can't believe that you thought it was those two 95 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: bridle places when she only showed vision of herself at 96 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: those bridal places spoke about her experience both of them. 97 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: It seems like em is really trying to cover her 98 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: tracks by deleting the videos because in her rant video 99 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: and also her try on video, she refers to both 100 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: experiences as the first time she tried on these dresses, 101 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,679 Speaker 1: and some people might be thinking perhaps that she visited 102 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: other bridle stores before, but in her original video where 103 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: she showed her experience at Palascutur and Stephen Khalil, she 104 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: entitled that video get ready with Me to go and 105 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: try on wedding dresses for the first time, and she 106 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: also explained that she and Lily had flown to Sydney 107 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: together to look for the first time and how important 108 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: it was for her to have Lily by her side. 109 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: And it gets worse because in the rant video, em 110 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: even references the content that she filmed of Lily Brown 111 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: in Stephen Khalil. 112 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 2: Here's what she said, the. 113 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 3: First place we went to, we did have a better 114 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 3: experience out than the second one, which really stucks because 115 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: I was super excited about the second one. The first 116 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 3: one is where you would have seen Lily in that 117 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 3: video looking at all the dressed on me, and we loved them, 118 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 3: but we just it wasn't what we thought it would be. 119 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: So here Emm is clearly saying in the rant video 120 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: that she is speaking about the experience that she filmed 121 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: inside both Stephen Khalil a Palace Cautour. In my personal opinion, 122 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: it seems like those two boutiques have reached out to 123 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: em and are pretty pissed off by what she's put 124 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: out there on TikTok. 125 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,239 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if legal letters were exchange. 126 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: Well, it just blows my mind that an influencer can 127 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: be so deceptive with their audience like that, though, because 128 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: in my opinion, she clearly deleted the videos at the 129 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: request of the store and also because she didn't want 130 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: her followers to piece it together. Well, she's kind of 131 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: acting like her followers as stupid, because anyone who was 132 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: engaged in this wedding content could clearly put two and 133 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: two together. Yeah, and that's the thing. I don't have 134 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: a problem if em wants to jump on it own 135 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: platform and call out a store in the first place, 136 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: because a lot of people were saying, why can't she 137 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: call out the store? I think that if you've had 138 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: a bad experience and someone's treated you with disrespect, you 139 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: have every right to talk about your experience. But at 140 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: the same time, she has a certain level of power 141 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: having such a large audience, because she has forty three 142 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: thousand followers on TikTok and three hundred and sixty two 143 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: thousand on Instagram, So it was obvious that the stores 144 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: were always going to find out that she was talking 145 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: about their shops and say she wasn't actually talking about 146 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: those stores, and she had visited other bridal boutiques during 147 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 1: the day. Her stories indicate to her viewers that those 148 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: are the stores. So from a legal perspective, if one 149 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: of those stores was to sue for defamation, they could 150 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: easily piece together and say, well, most people who watch 151 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: those stories would have assumed you were talking about the 152 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: bridal store. That's the thing she said that she only 153 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: visited two bridle stores that day. And also the fact 154 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: that she referenced in her rant that if you're spending 155 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: that much money on address, you should expect a decent 156 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: customer service. She's referring that it's a high end store 157 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: and there's only a certain number of high ends in Sydney. 158 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: So if she's not talking about Palace Couteur and Stephen Khalil, 159 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: then which doors is she talking about? Because it opens 160 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: up really bad publicity for those other stores in Sydney who. 161 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: Fall on the higher end. 162 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: I wonder how this is going to affect that custom 163 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: dress deal that she does have, because if I was 164 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: a bridal boutique, I would be quite wary in partnering 165 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: with her moving forward on to her wedding, because you 166 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: might be worried that you might piss her off and 167 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: she does a rant about you on her TikTok. Yeah, 168 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: I definitely don't think it's a good look, particularly because 169 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: in a lot of our TikTok comment sections and also 170 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: on other media articles that are picked up on it, 171 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: people are trying to guess who the stores are. 172 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: The only work on a shop you know you can 173 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: drop the attitude. 174 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: Online fashion site White Fox Boutique is under fire again, 175 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: with dozens of customers slamming the brand for lengthy delays 176 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: and what they say is terrible customer service. Now, this 177 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: story has attracted mainstream attention from Channel seven News when 178 00:07:55,960 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: White Fox's Instagram was flooded with comments from angry customers. Now, 179 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: dozens of customers allege that they're experiencing delays of up 180 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: to a month, even though they say they paid for 181 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: express shipping. One customer wrote, I got express shipping and 182 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: was told it would be delivered in one to four days. 183 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: It's now been two and a half weeks and I 184 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: haven't received an update of the shipping process. God, I 185 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: would be absolutely affuming, particularly because I often online shop 186 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: when I have an event coming up and I need 187 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: something asap, so you would assume the people that paid 188 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: for express shipping needed that stuff quickly. Well, customers have 189 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: even taken to TikTok that they've been creating videos slamming 190 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: their experience with White Fox. So one woman wrote shout 191 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: out to White Fox for not only failing to ship 192 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: my package in the expensive Express shipping timeframe, but also 193 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: having some of the worst customer service out there. Another wrote, 194 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: white Fox is a scam. Seventy dollars hoodie and no 195 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: response or email for almost a month. TikTok is really 196 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: changing the game when it comes to customer reviews. My 197 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: algorithm keeps serving me really bad reviews from a particular boutique, 198 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: and there are people just comply about the poor quality 199 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: of the clothing. And it is a brand that is 200 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: often promoted by influencers, and I actually love it because 201 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: it's that influencing deinfluencing trend and it's so helpful. I mean, 202 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: I'm actually looking for a steam mop and I find 203 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: myself typing steam mops into TikTok to get real reviews. Yeah, 204 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: I find myself doing that too. I did notice that 205 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people are also questioning White Fox's refund policy, 206 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: and it reminds me a little bit of our chat 207 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: about Lily Brown's pajama line because they're being offered store credit, 208 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: and people are saying, no, I want to fall refund. Well, 209 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: why would you want store credit when you don't even 210 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: know how long it's going to take. To be fair, 211 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: I think they are within their rights to offer store credit. 212 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: It's more of a product is faulty. But I wonder 213 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: how that works if they're just not getting their product delivered, 214 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: because clearly there are issues going on in the background. 215 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: And I think that White Fox's response online hasn't been 216 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: great either, because people are complaining that they're receiving these 217 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: passive aggressive messages, so they're like, sorry, babe, will send 218 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: you a DM now. I mean I would have to 219 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: be called babe if I'd been waiting four weeks for hoodie, 220 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: I'd be like, just give me my hoodie and stop 221 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: calling me bay. I think it's also because they're quite 222 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: generic responses. They're just copying and pasted to each customer, 223 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: and then when they actually go to their dms, there's 224 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: no proper message from them allegedly. I do feel a 225 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: little bit sorry for the social media people in this 226 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: situation because in my previous jobs working in sporting clubs, 227 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: I did look after the social media accounts, and there's 228 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: nothing worse than dealing with angry customers when it's actually 229 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: not your fault. Now, while some customers are claiming delays 230 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: of up to a month, the most recent influx of 231 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: comments has come after the after pay sales, which ended 232 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: on August twenty. Channel seven ended up interviewing founder and 233 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: director of White Fox Boutique, Georgia Kontos, and she told 234 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 1: seven News that the boutique experienced rapid growth in the 235 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: last year and that the after pay day sales were 236 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: record breaking. She explained that their warehouse is dispatching around 237 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: thirty five thousand items and over fifteen thousand orders a 238 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: day since the sale. That is absolutely mind blowing. She 239 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: also said that they had exceeded last year's sales by 240 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: more than one hundred and fifty percent and that they're 241 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: working hard to get orders up to date by the 242 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: end of the week. From a PR perspective, I actually 243 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: think it was a good move for Georgia Contos to 244 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: speak to seven News. And we often tell our clients 245 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: that if there is a negative story that's coming out, 246 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: it's actually better to be involved in the story because 247 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: then at least you have a chunk of the story 248 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: focusing on your message. 249 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 2: I agree. 250 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: I think it was a really great PR move because 251 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: they're showing how under pressure they are and that they're 252 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: actually trying to work really hard to get these orders 253 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: out there with the laser already happening at White Fox. 254 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: I'm really interested to see how they managed Sarah's Day's 255 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: Christmas pajama dropped this year because for the past five years, 256 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: Sarah's been releasing annual Christmas pajamas through White Fox, and 257 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: last year she was absolutely slammed for releasing the line 258 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: too late. So they released it on December thirteenth last year, 259 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: and that's just twelve days before Christmas. They kept promising, remember, 260 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: oh no, you'll get them before Christmas, and everyone was 261 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: doing the maths, going I don't think so. 262 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 2: And also, you want your Christmas pajamas in the well. 263 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: That's right, And at the time, Sarah seemed to be 264 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: blaming White Fox boutique. She wrote under a post Unfortunately 265 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: I don't get a say on when these launch around 266 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: this time of year. I just get to design and 267 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: shoot the creative well. It seems like the wills are 268 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: already in motion for the new Christmas pajamas She's already 269 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: been spooking them on her Instagram story. She's had Fox 270 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: and Malachi testing them out because she's also doing kid 271 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: sizes this year. Yeah, because there was some confusion last 272 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: year because in her campaign Sarah was wearing them alongside 273 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: her husband and also her kids, but in her actual 274 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: line they didn't have kids or men's options, and everyone 275 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: was saying, can you. 276 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 2: Please bring that in this year? 277 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: So clearly she has taken the criticism on board, and 278 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: she does seem to be taking her followers along for 279 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: the ride of this launch because this year the collection 280 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: has a French theme and they're quite cute. There's a 281 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: yellow pair that's stripe, in a pale blue pair that's stripe. 282 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 1: Bring us out some actual Christmas pajamas. I want to 283 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: see Christmas characters. I mean, if you disappointed by that, bloody, 284 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: go to Big w and Target. They've already got their 285 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: Christmas pajamas out and they're so cute. I am glad 286 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 1: that Sarah has started sharing these pajamas early, because followers 287 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 1: have already picked up on an era so as sov said, 288 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: they are French themed and on the tag it said 289 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: moncherie now my French isn't great, but moncherie is the 290 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: male form, so you would use it when speaking with 291 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: a boy or a man, but when you're speaking to 292 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: a woman, you would use musherie and it actually means 293 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: my darling. So it's good that they've picked up on it, 294 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: because these were just sample pajamas and Sarah ended up 295 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: thanking her followers saying thank you to my French fan 296 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: so many dms letting me know it should be musherie, 297 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: love you so much, So she did actually take the criticism. Well, Yeah, 298 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: I was impressed how she took that on board because 299 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: I feel like in the past she would have been 300 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: really passive aggressive. 301 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,239 Speaker 2: About aensive Yeah. 302 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: Is it just me or you were a little bit 303 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: surprised that the pajamas are French themed because Sarah has 304 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: never really stood out to me as someone who is 305 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: a fan of Paris. I think it's just the aesthetic. 306 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: It's a popular aesthetic at the moment on TikTok and 307 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: on Pinterest. Even with her new book release, she's having 308 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: a very European sum of so I think it's just 309 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: something that's in fashion at the moment, and the pajamas 310 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: are non offense if they're coming in pale colors. That 311 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: being said, you guys said, oh yeah, they're starting to 312 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: get the ball rolling with the pajamas. Now, it is September, 313 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: and generally when you are planning a Christmas line, it happens, 314 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: you know, middle of the year, so there's not that 315 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: much time to go. Still, Christmas is going to be 316 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: here before we know it, so it'll be interesting to 317 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: see when these pajamas actually go up on sale. 318 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 2: Is Jacob oquat Yeah. 319 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: Rosie Wadland has revealed her much loved podcast, Just the 320 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: Gist is set to make a return. Back in June, 321 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: it was announced that the show would be taking in 322 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: indefinite hiatus after a friendship breakdown caused co host Jacob 323 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: Stanley to step down from the show. Now, there has 324 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: been so much sadness and speculation around this friendship breakdown, 325 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: with many listeners having a strong parasocial relationship with the 326 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: pair and feeling like they're the third friend in the group. 327 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: So if can you bring us up to speed? 328 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? So, back in June, Rosie made the shock announcement 329 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: that Just the Gist was on an indefinite break and 330 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: she appeared solo on the podcast entitled a Turner has 331 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: been cornered and explained that the dynamic of Jacob and 332 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: her friendship had changed since going from friends to co workers. 333 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 2: Therefore, some background. 334 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: The pair met in two thousand and five at drama 335 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: school and they were best friends before starting the podcast. 336 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 2: Now, Rosie said that. 337 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: It got to a point where they had become more 338 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: coworkers than friends and it wasn't working for either of them. 339 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: And she was really honest during this podcast and said 340 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: that things intensified when she returned from her time off, 341 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: but they really tried to push through, as they have 342 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: a lot of love for each other, but it just 343 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: got to a point where it wasn't working anymore. So 344 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: she said that Jacob had decided to step away from 345 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: just the Gist and that she hoped the show would 346 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: return in some form, but she didn't know when. Now, 347 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: she did reiterate that it wasn't the way she wanted 348 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: things to go, but this is where they've landed now. 349 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: Jacob became a permanent fixture during the pandemic and has 350 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: grown a cult following from the show. He has the 351 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: most incredible deeps and I just love the way he 352 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: told stories and his reaction to those stories. I'm so 353 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: sad he's gone. He was my favorite on the show, 354 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: I think because I started listening when Rosie was on 355 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: her break and I just have so much love for 356 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: what they did together. I find it so sad that 357 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: they're not going to be this jewo anymore. And it's 358 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: pretty big of them, though, to make this decision and 359 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: do it in what seems to be quite a nice way. 360 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's the thing. 361 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: While Rosie did seem quite respectful on the podcast, fans 362 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: of the show feel like there's more going on in 363 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: the background, particularly when they series all particularly when they 364 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: noticed that Rosie and Jacob no longer follow each other 365 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: on Instagram, and they also felt like at the time 366 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: of the announcement they were making little digs at one 367 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: another on their Instagram accounts. And I also thought it 368 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: was a bit weird not having Jacob on the episode 369 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: to say goodbye to listeners. It's clearly at a point 370 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: where they can't be on the show together. It is 371 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: hard when the other person who's involved in the narrative 372 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: hasn't had the right of reply on the same platform. 373 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: I just think it spoke volumes that he was somewhat 374 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: silenced and couldn't come on the show and say goodbye. Well, 375 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: we don't know what is going on behind the scenes, 376 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: and someone did have to come out and actually make 377 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: an announcement, because it would be worse to just leave 378 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: your listeners wondering what's going on now. Rosie appeared on 379 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: Evie Jones's podcast, Two Girls, One Pod in what was 380 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: the first interview that she's done since announcing Just the Gist. 381 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: Was on a break and you could tell. 382 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: That Evie was really excited that they'd managed to secure 383 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: this interview with Rosie, so she knew that it was 384 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: going to be a big win for the show now. 385 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: During the interview, Evie asked Rosie if she and Jacob 386 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: were okay. 387 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 2: Here's what Rosie said. 388 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 4: We launched into it as friends. You're best friends, are you? 389 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 1: Ah? 390 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, we've known each other since drama school, which was 391 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 4: two thousand and five. We were first went to drama school, 392 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 4: and yeah, I think it just but we've never tried 393 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 4: really working together, and it just it was tricky and 394 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 4: you sort of especially with how big Just the Gist 395 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 4: got and we were touring and doing breaking news and 396 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 4: all like and also stories, and it got to a 397 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 4: point where we were just coworkers, more co workers, and it. 398 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: Did just a lot, doesn't it. 399 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 4: It does. The dynamic really changed and we didn't particularly 400 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 4: neither of us were liking it, and so we just 401 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 4: sort of decided, let's, yeah, let's decide how we want 402 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 4: to do this. And we thought it was probably like 403 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 4: he probably better for him to go to other things, 404 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 4: and because I really wanted to keep it going, so 405 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 4: because just the gist has been my baby for so long, 406 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 4: and so yeah, we're going to try just try see 407 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 4: how it goes. But yeah, no, I'm okay, it's a 408 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 4: it's been a really positive thing. 409 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: It's clear that Rosie didn't want to say that they're 410 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: no longer best friends, because she seemed to try and 411 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: dodge that part of the question. She just reiterated where 412 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: they met, we're. 413 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 2: Never best friends. You could tell that. 414 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: Evie was trying to be respectful though, and sort of 415 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: tiptoe around asking her the hard questions. She was criticized though, 416 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: for not going hard enough and asking what actually went 417 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: down with. 418 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 2: This friendship breakdown. 419 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: Don't know what the conversation was before this podcast episode 420 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,959 Speaker 1: was recorded. I'm assuming Rosie might have said, look, I 421 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: don't want to talk about it, and in order to 422 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: get her. 423 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 2: On the show. 424 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: I was really excited to hear though from Rosie in 425 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,719 Speaker 1: this podcast that she is back in production now, so 426 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: they are recording the new just the Gist, and they 427 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 1: do have a new podcast host now. 428 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: Eve didn't ask who the podcast host is. 429 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: It is still under wraps, but I'm guessing it won't 430 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: be someone that she's originally had a friendship with if 431 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: things haven't gone well before. It's really hard when you 432 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: go in business with friends and family. I mean, we 433 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: have our podcast business together. You guys have a separate 434 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 1: business together as well. I can understand it's not always 435 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: a great idea to blur the lines and be business 436 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,199 Speaker 1: partners with friends and family. I mean we managed to 437 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: do it because literally we can say whatever we like 438 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: to each other and we'll forgive each other. 439 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 2: But I think friendships it's a little bit different. 440 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like if you say something that you're really thinking 441 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: to your friend, they can. 442 00:19:58,560 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 2: Just be like fuck off. 443 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: Full it can to be awkward because if you want 444 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: to tell your friends something like this podcast was shit. 445 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 2: Basically that's good. 446 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: That's gonna be like we just say it to each 447 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 1: other all the time to so many arguments, but I 448 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: wander from a business side of things, if Jacob has 449 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: been compensated though, because this is Rosie's podcast, she started 450 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: it before Jacob, and she did it so that she 451 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 1: would have a rotation of co host, but then when 452 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: the pandemic struck, he was the permanent co host, So 453 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: I wondered, I'm sure there would have been a contract 454 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: in place. I mean, we saw it with Call Her Daddy. 455 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: Alex and Sophia were best friends and that didn't go well. 456 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: So it just shows how important it is to have 457 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 1: contracts in place. Rosie did say during this interview that 458 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: she thinks that the product of Just the Gist stands 459 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: for itself and people really love the storytelling. But I 460 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: actually think that the loss of Jacob is bigger for 461 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: the brand than she thinks, because he was such a 462 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: huge part of it, and I think that while she 463 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: was on this break, he sort of became the face 464 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: of Just the Gist. Yeah. Well, I'm interested to see 465 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: what Jacob's going to do next, because he'll surely get 466 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: a big following if he brings out a new podcast. 467 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,719 Speaker 2: Hi guys, welcome to my YouTube channel. 468 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: So today I am filming a really highly requested video. 469 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: I get asked all the time. 470 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: I constantly to do a house tour. Gracie Piscopo is 471 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: keeping Perth Now on their toes. Earlier this week, the 472 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: publication reported that the Western Australian influencer was single. Apparently 473 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 1: a source overheard Gracie telling fans at a fashion event 474 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 1: at the Clamont Showgrounds that she was single. I'm surprised 475 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: that they've built a whole article on someone overhearing something, 476 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: not even someone being told something, someone overhearing. 477 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 2: Something at an event. 478 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: Well, I'm assuming it was one of their reporters that 479 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: overheard this information. And it is off the back of 480 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: Perth Now reporting that Gracie had gone official with New 481 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: Zealander Daniel Klassen a couple of weeks ago, which we 482 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: spoke about on the show. And it seems like Perth 483 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: Now are literally writing a story on anything that Gracie does. 484 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: They're picking up on all the crumbs that she's dropping. 485 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: The latest twist is pretty funny. So Perth Now went 486 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: live with this story and so she's now single. However, 487 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: a couple of days later, she then posted a photo 488 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: of an apparel sprit at her house and of course 489 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: Daniel posted the same photo which reference that they were together, 490 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: probably laughing about Perth now and their reporting. 491 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 4: It's amazing how good you are with birds, Jay, What 492 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 4: can I say? 493 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 3: It's a gift. 494 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: The Gold Coast Bulletin is continuing to turn up the 495 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: heat on Nicky Westcott's fiance Olli Frost. Last month, the 496 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: publication reported that Tammy Hembrose ex Matt Paul was fuming 497 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: after allegedly being squeezed out of his steak in the 498 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: Burly Heads restaurant Mamon. Matt invested in the business alongside 499 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: his friend Ollie back in twenty twenty, but the business 500 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: is now in liquidation now. This week the Gold Coast 501 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: Bulletin shed light on how the restaurant has continued to 502 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: operate despite being in liquidation and owing hundreds of thousands 503 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: of dollars. So the restaurant is now being operated by 504 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: another company that shares common ownership with the original company. 505 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: So the original company wound up last week after the 506 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: administrator found potential insolvent trading and unfair preference payments. The 507 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: administration also lodged a report with ACIK outlining alleged potential 508 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: breaches of the corporation's Act. Now, The Gold Coast Bulletin 509 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: also revealed that Olifrost is in line to buy back 510 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: the restaurant, which is quite surprising because legally, if you're 511 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: a director of a business that goes bankrupt, you're not 512 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: actually allowed to buy another business. However, his mum is 513 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: legally the company director, but he has been described as 514 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: a potential shadow director of the first company, which is 515 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: why it's quite surprising that he has the ability to 516 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: potentially buy. 517 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 2: This restaurant back. Well, it's a bit of a red flag. 518 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: I think he is within the legal parameters he is 519 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 1: able to but I feel like the Gold Coast Bulletin, 520 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,239 Speaker 1: I mean, they're trying to be very careful, but if 521 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: you read between the lines, it appears that they are 522 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: trying to say, look, be careful of going into business 523 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: with Olifrost, because Matt Paul is clearly not happy. He 524 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: appears to be enjoying very much the Gold Coast Bulletin's 525 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: coverage of this story. Again, he shared the recent article 526 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: to his story and I think he's got to continue 527 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: to do so because he feels like he's been wrong. Well, 528 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are feeling sorry for 529 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: Matt Paul because if you read a lot of the coverage, 530 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: it does seem like he has been badly treated. I've 531 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: seen a lot of people saying, oh, it's only thirty 532 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, what's that to Kim, Well, he doesn't work 533 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: as an iron man anymore. 534 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,719 Speaker 2: We don't know what he's. 535 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: An iron man. If it's a normal dollars, still say 536 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollars is a lot of money, particularly to 537 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: invest in a business with a friend. I think it's 538 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: not even the money anymore, it's the principle of it 539 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: as well. I think, like Danika was, you know, completely 540 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 1: into David and so I wanted to give it a gift. 541 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 3: And that's why the. 542 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: Kiss ITV has confirmed the rumors are true. Love Island 543 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: All Stars is coming. The new series will debut in 544 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: the new year, replacing the normal winter edition of the show. Now, 545 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: as the name suggests, favorite ogs of Love Island will 546 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 1: be returning. So a director from ITV confirmed the show 547 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: we filmed in South af and featured the most iconic 548 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: UK Islanders. I was so excited to hear that it 549 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: was just UK Islanders because I had heard some rumors 550 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: that potentially they were bringing in Australian and US contestants, 551 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: and I think that would make the show so shit. 552 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: I know in the recent winter edition of Love Island 553 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: they bought in contestants from Australia and I hated that. 554 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: Oh I really like Jesse, who was the Australian girl. 555 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: She actually found love with farmer Will and they've worked out. 556 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: They're a really cute coup of Wills flown over to 557 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: Australia and they've been sharing a lot of their lives 558 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: on TikTok. I think that that was actually a good 559 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: thing for the show. They were probably one of the 560 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: show's favorite couples. But I don't I'm not a fan 561 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,959 Speaker 1: of Australian Love Ireland as a franchise, so neither am 562 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: I and I felt like it kind of downgraded the 563 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: UK version. I think that the UK version is in 564 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: a world of its own compared to the Australian one, 565 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: but it hasn't been recently because the last two series 566 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: of Love Ireland have been very underwhelming. We my partner 567 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: and I usually really get behind it and we look 568 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: forward to every year, but we haven't even got through 569 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: the last two series. It's because it's played so often now. 570 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: It only used to be that Love Island UK would 571 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: be on once a year, and now there's almost too 572 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 1: many series. So I think it's a really clever move 573 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: to bring back the all stars because I wouldn't watch this. 574 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: It's a final roll of the dice, I think. Because 575 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: ratings have been down. 576 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 2: It's still bloody popular though. 577 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: When you look at the most recent series finale, it's 578 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: had over one point four billion video views across all platforms. 579 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: I do agree with the acting of the Winter Edition though, 580 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: because it first aired back in twenty twenty and it 581 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: was canceled and then they've brought it back. 582 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 2: But it's just not good. 583 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: I don't really like them filming in South Africa though, 584 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: but I understand they have to because it is the 585 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: Winter Edition. 586 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:42,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say that too. 587 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: I don't think South Africa is a good location because 588 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: the series before, when they did it in South Africa. 589 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 2: It was always windy. 590 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: They never really had any nice weather, and I feel 591 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: like the whole vibe of Love Island is it's summary, 592 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: it's fun. We want people in their bathes having a 593 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: good time. It's kind of like when they took Bachelor 594 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: in Paradise to Fiji, and it just looked so gray 595 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: and miserable there. They tried really hard in the editing 596 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: to make it look colorful, but it just wasn't. 597 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 2: So who would you guys want to see the All Stars. 598 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: It's tricky because some of the most iconic couples from 599 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,959 Speaker 1: Love Island are either engaged or married. 600 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 2: So I would love to see. 601 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: Tommy and Molly back on Love Island, but. 602 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 2: Of course they're not going to go back. 603 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm disappointed because dover Day and Ekin Sue we spoke 604 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: about them a couple of weeks ago and how they'd 605 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: had this dramatic break up, but they're actually back together now. 606 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: They haven't even touched on it. They've just like put 607 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: up photos of them on holidays and now at some premiere, 608 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 1: dover Day might dump Eckensu again because he might want 609 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 1: to go on Love Island reckon. Maybe that's why they 610 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,239 Speaker 1: did have that breakup and then the people were like, 611 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: the producers have said, no, you're actually not going to 612 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: be on the All Stars. 613 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 2: Sies, they've got together, just get back together there. 614 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 1: Or maybe maybe it pushed them together because maybe the 615 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: producers were fishing around and they thought, oh, actually, I 616 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: can't do this. Two people I really want to see 617 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: on the show are Moura Higgins and Fay Winter. And 618 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: just recently they were at an awards show after party 619 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 1: and they had this massive fight. Apparently they were arguing 620 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: for an hour and passes by said they had like 621 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: fingers pointing at each other's faces. So I wonder, is 622 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: this a bit of a publicity stunt to get their 623 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: names out there so people want to see them all show. 624 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: I think that their names are already out there. They're 625 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: probably two of the most fiery characters we've seen on 626 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: Love Island. I did hear Fay say in a recent 627 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: podcast that she would love to be back. 628 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 2: On the show. 629 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: On Fine Love, I don't want to burst your bubbles. 630 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: But Maura Higgins has already ruled herself out of the show. Firstly, 631 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: she is in a relationship with a Hollywood stunt double 632 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: Bobby Holland Hampton. And also she's been quoted as saying 633 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: I can't see myself ever doing that again. No, I've 634 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: been asked, but I've said no. I just think I've 635 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: done it once. I've had my time on Love Island. 636 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: I don't really want to go back in time. I 637 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: want to look to the future. Surely on this show 638 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: they're going to have exes in there, because I can 639 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: really see Toby and Chloe on there again. Because Toby 640 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: has a podcast and he was putting it out there 641 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: that since his breakup with Chloe he'd love to be 642 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: asked to be on all stuff, and he was kind 643 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: of shading her on his podcast. Who he was talking 644 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: about people being dis loyal. 645 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 2: Oh. 646 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: One person who's definitely going to try and get in 647 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: there is Adam Collard. 648 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I have him back. I really want 649 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 2: to see Luca Bish back on there. 650 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: I know he was quite a controversial figure. I really 651 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: loved him. A lot of people thought that he was 652 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: quite controlling of Gemma. However, I would like to see 653 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: him go on the show and be a bit of 654 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: a fuck boy because we didn't really see. 655 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 2: That side of him on there. 656 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: See I've got a few. I want doctor Alex back 657 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: on there. 658 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. 659 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: I also would like to see Megan Barton Hanson. So 660 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: she was on the twenty eighteen series. She was with 661 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: Wes and now she is actually an only fan star, 662 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: and I think she's one of the biggest celebrities to 663 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: come out of the show, obviously after Molly May. 664 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 2: She's stunning. She looks a lot like Margot Robbie. Yeah 665 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 2: she does. 666 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: We should actually put it to Margot Robbie. She should 667 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: be picking who the All Stars are. She's that obsessed 668 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: with Love Island. Well, I think that is all we 669 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: have time for today. Thank you so much for joining 670 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: us for today's episode. If you have enjoyed it, could 671 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: you please make sure you are subscribed on Apple podcast 672 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,959 Speaker 1: and also Spotify. This episode was recorded on the tradition 673 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: lund of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Plains. We 674 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: pay respect to elders past and present.