1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: This is Outspoken, the podcast It's not afraid to say 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. Our names are Amy Kate and 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but we often don't have 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: all things reality TV, influencers, entertainment, and issues facing women. 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: That is so fetch Thank you, Welcome back to Outspoken Now. 7 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: I thought I'd kick off the week by sharing a 8 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: rather embarrassing story now to set the scene for those 9 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: who are new listeners, the three of us caused a 10 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: lot of controversy when we revealed on this podcast that 11 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 1: we all go on our phones in the shower. Now, 12 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: to be clear, we hold the phone at a distance, 13 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: so obviously no water gets on there. There must be 14 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: some sort of obsession with our phone. Guy. Yeah, but 15 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: can I say a lot of people agreed with us 16 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: and said that they do the same thing. They take 17 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: their phone into the shower. Well, some people said they 18 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: had ziplock bags for their phone. 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: Do you know what I love about this story, Sophie, 20 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,839 Speaker 2: That you said that it happened on Friday afternoon normally 21 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: people take a shower. 22 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: Actually it was Friday morning. We're recording Friday afternoon. 23 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: It was Friday morning, So you have showered? 24 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: Okay, good, Yes, I have showered anyway, So Friday morning, 25 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: I'm flicking through comments on the Outspoken podcast page. We've 26 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: got quite a big reception to Friday's episode, and I 27 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: was replying to nice people who'd left comments. Anyway, all 28 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: of a sudden, I'm just reading through a comment I'm 29 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: about to send back to someone, and my finger. 30 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: It's just a private message. 31 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: Though this is a private message, and my finger slips 32 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: to the video call, and all of a sudden, my 33 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: face appears in a shower. 34 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 2: It looks like it was just your face. 35 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: Well luckily it was just my face, and my hair 36 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: was all wet. I just looked an absolute mess. You 37 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like just the face could potentially be worse, 38 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: Like I'd almost rather than my body and not been 39 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: able to identify body. As soon as this happened, I 40 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: threw the phone across the room and I put it 41 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: face down and tried to turn my phone off. I 42 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 1: just freaked out because I thought if I kept it 43 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: on myself and try and reject the call, then I 44 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: might they might answer. Why does FaceTime and also Instagram 45 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: video calls. Why do they always have your face pop 46 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: up first, like it's a really show when you do it? Well, Thankfully, 47 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: somehow I must have rejected the call, and then I 48 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: had to reply to the person, Oh, I'm so sorry 49 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: I accidentally video called you, and I was so worried 50 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: that I'd somehow sent a snapshot of myself in the shower. 51 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: Thankfully I had not, but I think that's a real 52 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: lesson for the three of us, maybe to leave our 53 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: phones outside of the shower. I also said too, Sophie 54 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: that you need to get a bit of blue tag 55 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: to put on the front camera, and also maybe the 56 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: bad one. Well, on the topic of plumbing, I also 57 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: had a disaster at my house. 58 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: Now. Unfortunately, my showers aren't very hot. It gets to 59 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: the point where the hot water runs out by night. 60 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 2: We had a plumber come in to take a look 61 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: at our water tank. Now, as he was leaving our property, 62 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: he's like, oh, hey, have you got a blocked drain 63 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: by any chance? And I was like, well, the shower 64 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: does take a while to drain. Anyway, He's like, come 65 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 2: and have a look at this. So I walk out 66 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: onto my driveway and in my garden there is a 67 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 2: massive toilet paper and at first I could not work 68 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: out what it was. I then saw something brown, and 69 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: I'm sorry for anyone that is eating their breakfast, but 70 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: I got quite a shock. So our train had just 71 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: all the waste had poured out onto our garden, and 72 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: I was like, fantastic. The plumber said, oh, it's pretty interesting. 73 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: Usually you see a lot of corn in there. 74 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: That's a bit of a fun fact. From where isn't 75 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: a disgusting story to start? Everyone's not. 76 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 2: Fortunately, say, water came out and tidied it all up 77 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: and we didn't even have to pay anything. So I 78 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: very much respect those people. Thank you for doing that. 79 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: It's just so embarrassing. Could you imagine just standing there, well, 80 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: your own shit's on the lawn. Have you guys heard 81 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: of that drink? I only know it from being a 82 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: bartender in the day, and it's called a shit on 83 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: the lawn or it was also called a frog in 84 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: the pond. 85 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, because Amy was asked for a shit on the 86 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: lawn and she was like, what. 87 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: Too much of this attitude of I'm young, fit, healthy, 88 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: I give fuck about the virus. It's not you that 89 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: you have to worry about you getting the virus and 90 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: giving it to people around you. Chloe Zepp has issued 91 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: a statement on her Instagram feed after receiving mainstream media 92 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: attention for her controversial COVID views. The twenty two year 93 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: old wellness influenza has lost over twenty five thousand followers 94 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 1: this month after sharing anti vax an anti lockdown sentiment 95 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: as well as refusing to wear a mask despite it 96 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: being mandatory Kate, yet again, the comments from Chloe are 97 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 1: non committal and go against what she has been pushing 98 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: on her platform. 99 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, Amy. The three hundred word statement really 100 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 2: danced around the issue without committing to a viewpoint. Chloe 101 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: refrained from using the word COVID, vaccine or vaccination, instead 102 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: saying that she's not anti or pro anything and that 103 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 2: she believed in choice. Chloe said people have wrongly assumed 104 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 2: that she does not support western medicine and went on 105 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: to say I stand by holistic healing and wellness as 106 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 2: my foundation, but that doesn't mean I am anti anything else. 107 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 2: When required, Chloe also accused the media of turning some 108 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 2: of her posts into false stories for their own personal gain. 109 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 2: She said, I am not anti or pro anything. I 110 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: believe in choice, I believe in science, in complementary modalities 111 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 2: and Western medicine as it saves lives. They are support 112 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: to each other. In the post, Chloe also acknowledged that 113 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: she is lucky to have more freedoms than other places 114 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: and said I never want to come across as abusing 115 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,799 Speaker 2: those rights. It was my mistake for publicly not wearing 116 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: a mask, and I take ownership of that mistake. Now, 117 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: what did you guys think about this statement? 118 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: The thing that first stuck out to me was the 119 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: fact that she never apologized for not wearing a mask. 120 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: She simply said that she was mistaken. And I know 121 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: we've all had that situation early into lockdowns where we're 122 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: not used to wearing masks and maybe we've completely forgot 123 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: to get it. But as soon as you walk into 124 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: the store, you see everyone wearing a mask, so you 125 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: quickly can run back to your carr and get one. 126 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: I don't think that this is an honest mistake. 127 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: The thing is, it's also not an isolated situation. Yeah, 128 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 2: Chloe has been called out for not wearing a mask 129 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: at bigw However, she hasn't been wearing a mask in 130 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 2: any of their vlogs or videos that they post on Instagram. 131 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: It's quite clear that they have been flouting those rules 132 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 2: for a long time now. 133 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: And I think you hit the nail on the head, 134 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: Kate when you said that she danced around what she 135 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: actually wanted to say, because it does seem clear that 136 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: she has had some pr advice in terms of putting 137 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: out this statement, and normally crisis one oh one is 138 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: to apologize, and I feel like they picked on the 139 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: mask issue to apologize for because it's really been the 140 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: only thing that they can prove because she's really also 141 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: danced around her anti VAX's views as well. You call 142 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: it an apology, but as we said before, she didn't 143 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: actually say sorry, and that's why I did think she 144 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: may have had some help from some media team and 145 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: with the crafting of the words, because there's a difference 146 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: between saying, oh, I made a mistake to I'm actually 147 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: sorry for that mistake. Yeah. I think it's very evident 148 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: that she definitely had some pr advice with that one, 149 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: especially because publications like Mama mea news dot com, Pedestrian 150 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: Daily Mail, The Gold Coast Bulletin, and The Courier have 151 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: written about Chloe and presumably reached out to Chloe for 152 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: a statement. So I feel like it has gotten to 153 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: the point for both Chloe and Mitch where they have 154 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: needed to seek some sort of professional media help. And 155 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,239 Speaker 1: on Friday morning they were very quiet on their stories. 156 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: Normally they are documenting their morning routines where they go 157 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: to the beach. On Friday morning, we saw nothing until 158 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: we got this statement. 159 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: Another thing that hinted to me that they had professionals 160 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: involved was because I could not imagine Chloe using the 161 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 2: phrase natural modalities. I mean, I've never heard her say 162 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: it's I stumbled on the word because it's not a 163 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: common word people used. 164 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and bringing out the pr big guns. It shows 165 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: you that they are a little bit scared. Because I 166 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: think the thing is there has been a lot of 167 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: talk in podcasts and on social media about Chloe and 168 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: Mitch and their anti vaxx views, But the thing is 169 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: now it's hit the mainstream media. This means it is 170 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: going to affect brand deals because business owners they are 171 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: aware of this sort of stuff. It seems like a 172 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: lot of brands maybe aren't so aware of what's going 173 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: on social media. But once you make these big publications. 174 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: It's a real issue and could be extremely damaging to 175 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: their brand. I think the thing that annoyed me most 176 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: about this statement was it was filled with deflections. She 177 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: didn't take any responsibility for her actions, and she just 178 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: continued to sit on the fence. And she didn't actually say, hey, 179 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: I do actually believe in the vaccine. She just said 180 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: she isn't anti or pro anything. But she prefaced it 181 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: by saying, when required. You know what I mean, I'm 182 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: when required. So does that mean if she's got a 183 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: brand trip coming up, that she'll have her I think 184 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: when she says when required, it refers to the fact 185 00:08:56,559 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: that she doesn't think vaccines are necessary in this case. 186 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 1: Yes to me. 187 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 2: When I saw the word when required, I thought it 188 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: might have something to do with the fact that people 189 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 2: might question whether Chloe has been vaccinated before, and I 190 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 2: would assume, with her mum being a nurse, that she 191 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 2: has been vaccinated. And I feel like a lot of 192 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: anti vaxers then pull out, oh, well, I'm happy to 193 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: have the vaccines that have been trialed and tested, because 194 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 2: a lot of them like to call fireser and astrozeneca 195 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: experimental vaccines when we know that this is not the case, 196 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 2: and it's completely a different system that has led to 197 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 2: this vaccine being created. 198 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting because when Tammy Hembro was accused of 199 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: being anti vax, she was really quick to come out 200 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: and say that she isn't anti vax and that she'd 201 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: actually booked in to get the vaccine. I think people 202 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: are just so sick of this dancing around it. Just 203 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: say what you are. I know she's claiming that she's 204 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: pro choice, but I'm sorry I classified people who are 205 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: pro choice as well. You're leaning towards being an anti 206 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: vaxxer because in this situation, we can't be pro choice. 207 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: Your choice affects the rest of the community. 208 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: Exactly, right, Sophy. This is a public health issue and 209 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 2: it is selfish not to get vaccinated if you can. 210 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 2: I feel like I would have had more respect for 211 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: Chloe if she'd actually been honest with her feelings rather 212 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: than sitting on the fence. It just seems like she's 213 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: trying to save face currently. 214 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: Well, it's a complete backflip from her initial statement which 215 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: said she was waiving all of her followers goodbye. It 216 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: just looks like she's in complete damage control at the moment. 217 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: I don't even know how much involvement she would have 218 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: had in physically posting this story herself. I think it 219 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: would have been completely coming from a PR team, and 220 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, obviously they're doing their 221 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: job in trying to keep brands happy and wanting to 222 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 1: work with her. 223 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: It is interesting that once it started to now affect 224 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: Chloe's business and earnings, she completely backflips on the stance 225 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: that she was pushing. 226 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: Well, how did the post go down on social media? 227 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: K Well. 228 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: At the time of recording, the post has received twenty 229 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 2: eight thousand likes and I'm sure by Monday it is 230 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: going to have a lot more. The Blue Tick Brigade 231 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 2: were out in full force in Influencers who liked the 232 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: post included Jonathan Sawer, Martha from Maths, Chloe Morello, Kira Maguire, 233 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 2: Kurt Coleman, and Sarah Jane Stevens. Influencer Alex Hayes, who 234 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: people may remember from Celebrity Apprentice, wrote love you Chloe, 235 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 2: thanks for always inspiring me. And Greshi Rose put praising 236 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 2: hands on the post. I did notice that friends like 237 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 2: Josh Miller and Steph Claire Smith were absent, which I 238 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: think was a good idea. 239 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: Mitch also left a comment under the post. He wrote, 240 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: I will be forever grateful for you. You changed my life 241 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: for the better, and everything I know and everything i'm 242 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: in body today was inspired by you. You made me 243 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: want to be healthier, happier, and live a more conscious 244 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: and present life. Thank you for everything you've done for me. 245 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: I love you. I's a bit confused by this comment. 246 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: I feel like it was unnecessary to leave because I 247 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: feel like his intent was to garner more sympathy for 248 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: her and obviously point out that she's very good at 249 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: what she does, that she's an expert in health and wellness, 250 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: when clearly the advice she's giving at the moment goes 251 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: against health. 252 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: I suppose Mitch's comment is something that you would expect, 253 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: but I wasn't expecting this comment from Chloe's business partner, 254 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: Molly Jane. Now she co owned Bloom with Chloe as 255 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 2: well as being a part of well Web, and Molly 256 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: Jane said, handling it all with such grace, my love, 257 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 2: words have been twisted, put in your mouth, assumptions made, 258 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 2: and so much bullying behind the scenes. Because of this, 259 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 2: I am so proud of you. For the work you 260 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 2: have done on your mental health over the years to 261 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: be resilient enough to handle situations such as this and others. 262 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 2: I love you so much. Anyone that truly knows you 263 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 2: are as pure as they come. Now, obviously, it is 264 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 2: important to consider Chloe's mental health in this situation, because 265 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: she is a twenty two year old girl. And while 266 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 2: I feel like this would be a hard situation to 267 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 2: deal with, again, I feel like this comment is again 268 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 2: it's not the whole statement. I believe was meant to 269 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 2: be a bit of an apology, even though the word 270 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: sorry wasn't used. But these comments kind of show what 271 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 2: Chloe really thinks behind the statement that she was forced 272 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 2: to put this statement out. 273 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: And I think what some people are forgetting is this 274 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: pandemic is a life and death situation. I'm sorry, but 275 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: if you are choosing to go against health recommendations made 276 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: by health professionals and the government, you are putting people 277 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: at risk. So as much as I do have some 278 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: sympathy towards her, because I'm sure all of this media 279 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 1: attention would be quite overwhelming, I do think at the 280 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: end of the day, if she is happy to take 281 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: on board all of the great things that come with 282 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: having a platform, including getting paid a hell of a 283 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: lot of money. Then she has to take some of 284 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: the negative on board as well. 285 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 2: Do you guys think that she will be losing brand 286 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 2: deals or do you think that this statement might save her. 287 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 2: I think this statement actually gives it more attention because 288 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: I feel like all the news publications that have written 289 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 2: about her are now going to add in her statement. 290 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 2: So I feel like it's kind of doing the opposite 291 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 2: of what she's hoping it will achieve. And again, as 292 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 2: Sophie said earlier, when you start talking about Chloe zep 293 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 2: on a mainstream platform, that's when big brands do start 294 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,439 Speaker 2: to notice and be like, shit, I'm pulling my money 295 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 2: out of this. I don't want my brand aligned with 296 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 2: this person. 297 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: I did really enjoy Clementine Ford's comments. She wrote damage 298 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: control and this received four hundred likes. 299 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: Well. Celeb Spellcheck wrote a banger comment. She wrote, too little, 300 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: too late. You're only doing this now because you're losing 301 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: followers and supporters, which you now realize will impact you financially. 302 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 2: I'd honestly rather you admit that you're anti vax rather 303 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 2: than backtrack, because the mainstream media has picked up on 304 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 2: you spreading dangerous misinformation. You owe an apology to all 305 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 2: the healthcare workers who are quite literally risking their lives 306 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 2: to keep you safe now. Celebspellcheck's response has attracted nearly 307 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: two thousand likes at the time of recording, I was 308 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 2: the influencer. 309 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: Opinions also got in on the action. They wrote on 310 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: the topic of kindness, compassion, unity. Should healthcare workers also 311 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: expect in a from Mitch for completely disrespecting Australia's public 312 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: health system. 313 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 2: That is a great point because it's interesting out of 314 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 2: all of this that Chloe is the one that is 315 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 2: attracting the most attention now. I do think it is 316 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 2: because she has the biggest audience, but I feel like 317 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 2: Mitch has been equally as problematic on this topic recently. 318 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome back to my channel. 319 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: I hope you're all doing a while. I'm having to slide. 320 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: Down in my chair a little bit because the steering 321 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: wheel height is not quite quite correct. 322 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 2: If I look a bit slumped, it's just so I'm 323 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 2: actually in this view right now. 324 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: Mollie may Haig has been announced as the creative director 325 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: of fashion retailer Pretty Little Thing. The Mirror is reporting 326 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: the new role could earn the former Love Islander one 327 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: million pounds. Amy, can you tell us about this role? Yeah, Well, 328 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: since leaving the villa, Molly had her own collection with 329 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: Pretty Little Things, so it's not surprising that this role 330 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: has come up. On Instagram, Molly wrote, I'm beyond ecstatic 331 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: to announce that I'm the new creative director of Pretty 332 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: Little Thing for UK EU. This is the biggest move 333 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: in my career so far and I can't explain my 334 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: gratitude to my favorite brand in the world for trusting 335 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: me with this role. So Molly May celebrated her new 336 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: role with an exclusive party, which was attended by well 337 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: known influencers Anastasia Kings North and Saffron Baker and many 338 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: former Love Islanders, the most noteworthy being Maura Higgins. 339 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 2: Now, Amy, you said that it didn't come as a 340 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: surprise that Molly had been selected for this role as 341 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 2: creative director, but to be honest, when I saw the post, 342 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 2: I was really surprised because I feel like creative director 343 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 2: of such a massive brand like Pretty Little Thing, you 344 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 2: need to actually have some experience behind you, and I 345 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 2: feel like that of an influencer that's been on Love 346 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 2: Island probably isn't enough for that role. And that's not 347 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: to be any disrespect towards Molly, but I really feel 348 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 2: like she maybe, yes, the face of the brand and 349 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: have some and be stylish, but yeah, maybe not creative director. 350 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: Well, there were mixed feelings online, so the term money 351 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: May was trending on Twitter, and one person tweeted, congratula, 352 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: but this is a job people get degrees for and 353 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: work hard for years to get experience for. Seems a 354 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: little unfair for those people. But another user defended Molly, 355 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: saying she went to the Fashion Retail Academy and studied 356 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: for two years, just like everyone else. She hasn't just 357 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: been handed at. Yes, the fame helps, but don't think 358 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: she hasn't worked for where she is now because of 359 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: Love Ireland. Knowing that background information, do you guys think 360 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 1: it was a smart move by pretty little thing. Well, 361 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: I think all of our listeners know that I have 362 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: a very soft spot for Molly May. She's one of 363 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: my favorite influencers, and the fact that she does have 364 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: a background in fashion it does sort of make sense 365 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: to me. But I am questioning how much how much 366 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: this role actually entails, whether it is just a title 367 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: she's receiving or whether this will be her being in 368 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: the office five days a week. 369 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 2: I also love Molly May, and this is not meant 370 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 2: to be disrespectful to her at all, but I feel 371 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: like there wouldn't be many people that studied a few 372 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 2: years at a fashion retail academy that would then just 373 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 2: land this amazing job. It does seem unfair to those 374 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 2: who have put in the hard yards in saying that 375 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 2: it seems like a clever branding opportunity, and it kind 376 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 2: of does put into perspective Molly's decision to turn down 377 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 2: a two million dollar deal to promote another fashion line. 378 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: Hi, guys, welcome back to my channel only fans. Star 379 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: Anna Paul is brightening lockdown for some lucky followers by 380 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: giving away money. Sophia, can you tell us a bit more? 381 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 382 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: Well, Anna explained in one of her TikTok blogs that 383 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: she's feeling very guilty at the moment and very privileged 384 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: because she is living in Brisbane where restrictions are obviously easing, 385 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: and she is about to go on a holiday, and 386 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: she said that to kind of ease some of that 387 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: guilt she wanted to give away money. Now, this is 388 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: something that she has done before, so she decided to 389 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: give away money to followers who contacted her who are 390 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: currently in lockdown. 391 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 2: I've only actually started watching Anna Paul's YouTube videos and 392 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 2: I've got to say I really quite like her. She 393 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: does seem like a very genuine person, and i think 394 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 2: watch she is doing is really nice and it's a 395 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: positive thing to see on social media. 396 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to say. I mean, her brother is 397 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: quite controversial, but she does seem like a very lovely girl. 398 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: So she wrote on her Instagram story that she has 399 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,719 Speaker 1: spent the morning sending money to people who have messaged 400 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 1: her from TikTok. So she shared a screenshot showing that 401 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: she had sent across two hundred and fifty dollars to 402 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: a follower, and the girl was so appreciative she was 403 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: in tears. However, some fans thought that it was in 404 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: poor taste to share the screenshot of the amount she's sent. 405 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: They said that it seemed quite performative and that the 406 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: gesture should have remained private because at the end of 407 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: the day, she is then benefiting and looking like a 408 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: good person for doing this deed. What do you guys think. 409 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: I can see where the person is coming from when 410 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 2: you put it like that, because you do question the 411 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 2: need to promote something like that, because obviously it gives 412 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 2: you clout and it does make you look good, but. 413 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: It could also be prompting other influences to do the 414 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 1: same thing. It's a little it's I can see where 415 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: the person's coming from, but I can also see the 416 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: other side. It's a bit like when Taylor Swift gave 417 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 1: out gifts and money to her fans, and she did 418 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: it by knocking on their front doors and surprising them. 419 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: And whilst many people did think it was a lovely gesture, 420 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: they also could see the fact that it was a 421 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 1: great pr opportunity because it gained a lot of attention 422 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: online and also in mainstream media publications and did help 423 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: build her profile as someone who is very kind and supportive. 424 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: If you're kind of damned if you do, your damned 425 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: if you don't, aren't you. But the only thing really 426 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: that there is to do is to forgive and forget. 427 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 2: So I really do. 428 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: I want to forgive you, and I want to forget you. 429 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley as she binds and Emily Hembrow have joined 430 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: forces to promote a competition called Influencer Giveaways. One lucky 431 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: winner will receive a Tesla Carr. The catch you just 432 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 1: need to follow the Ossie Influencers account plus one hundred others. Now, 433 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: so if this sounds like your typical giveaway loop For 434 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: those who haven't heard of the term, can you outline 435 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: what they are? Well? Basically they are used as a 436 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: marketing technique for brands or influencers to gain more followers, 437 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: and there has been a recent resurgence in these giveaway posts. 438 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: So influencers are the faces of these giveaways and generally 439 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: they pose in front of a very gratuitous amount of 440 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: luxury items. And in order to enter the competition, users 441 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: must follow all of the participating accounts on the giveaway page. 442 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 1: So the number of accounts involved can vary, but the 443 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: higher the number of accounts, the stronger the incentive has 444 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: to be for the user to take part, so this 445 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: is usually when more of the lavish prizes occur. So basically, 446 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: by these brands all coming together in this way, participants 447 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: can reach a much bigger audience and offer a more 448 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: expensive prize. So the prizes generally include things like designer bags, laptops, iPhones, 449 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: and also large sums of money. Well, it was actually 450 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: Kylie Jenner who introduced us to a whole new wave 451 00:21:55,600 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: of celebrity fronted loop giveaway posts in twenty nineteen. Somebody 452 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: behind the post called Curated Business, states that participating brands 453 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 1: gained twenty three thousand followers, a dramatic increase in web traffic, 454 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: and a spike in online sales. So Curated Business have 455 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: also managed campaigns featuring Courtney Kardashi and Christianna, Chloe Kardashian, 456 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: Nadia Bartel, and Bekjad. It's not yet clear if Curated 457 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: Business are also running this influencer giveaway because there is 458 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 1: no business page linked to this Instagram account. It is 459 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: simply called Influencer Giveaways. But if you take a look 460 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: at their Instagram page, they have been running since August 461 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, and they've done collaborations with people like Rhese Hawkins, 462 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: Tammy Hembro, Emily henbro Chrissy Swaddling, and also Greta Rose. 463 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: So the reason this competition initially caught my attention this 464 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: week is because of Sky Wheatley's pre filmed Instagram stories 465 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: and I feel like so many influencers are getting caught 466 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: out for this at the moment. 467 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 2: Well, just to interject, didn't Chloe Zepp get caught out 468 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 2: because she had put this big post up about to 469 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 2: talking about how she's limiting her sugar intake and feels great. 470 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 2: And then the next post was a pre recorded post 471 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 2: where she's sponsored by a jet to be kind of similar. 472 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: So basically Sky shared and Instagram story complaining about having 473 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: a flat tire in her own car, which is an 474 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: Alpha Romeo. I feel like I haven't heard that brand 475 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: since Sale of the Century. Well anyway, so she's sharing 476 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: this video of the fact that her car has a 477 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: flat tire. You click to the next screen and she's 478 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: sitting in the brand new Tesla saying how great it 479 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: is and outlining all the features of this car. And 480 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: I felt like it was very unfortunate timing because if 481 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: you weren't really concentrating on the post, you'd feel like 482 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: she was saying that this brand new competition car had 483 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: the flat tire and was no good. 484 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 2: I was just thinking, I swear I saw someone else 485 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 2: driving around in a Tesla and it was Saffron Barker's mum. 486 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 2: So I wonder if the competition is international. 487 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: I feel like they are getting a lot of influencers 488 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 1: on board. I think that this competition is specifically a 489 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: local Australian competition judging by the influencers they featured on 490 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 1: their page. 491 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 2: So there's a few tesla's being given away. Well, I 492 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: think it's important to discuss the issue with this competition 493 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 2: because not only does it seem like a bit of 494 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 2: a deceptive way to actually gain followers, but there's some 495 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: issues going on with copycat accounts popping up that are 496 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 2: trying to scam people that enter these type of competitions. 497 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 2: So this week, Ash Bienes, who is also promoting the giveaway, 498 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 2: warned followers that a fake account posing as the giveaway 499 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 2: page had emerged and was telling people they'd won and 500 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 2: to send through their bank details. Worryingly, when I went 501 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 2: to take a look at the real Influencer giveaway page today, 502 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 2: the whole page has disappeared. Yeah, so if you click 503 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 2: on the link that Sky Wheatley has put in her 504 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 2: Instagram post promoting it, nothing comes up anymore. So I 505 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: wonder what is going to happen with this competition. Perhaps 506 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 2: Instagram's come in and deleted the competition because I was 507 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 2: surprised these sorts of competitions still exist on the platform 508 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 2: because it seems to go against the standards to force 509 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 2: people to follow a bunch of different accounts, so it 510 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 2: doesn't seem very genuine. 511 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: I also wonder whether it's actually worth it for the 512 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: brands who are participating in these sort of competitions, because 513 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, their goal to be 514 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: involved is to attract genuine, engaged followers who will eventually 515 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: become a customer of their brand. However, if I'm entering 516 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: this competition, if I don't win, as soon as it's over, 517 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to go and unfollow these people. Oh exactly. 518 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 2: I just feel like the brands that do participate in 519 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 2: these type of competitions don't actually understand why you should 520 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 2: have followers and know much about social media. I feel 521 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 2: like they're just stuck back in the day where it 522 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 2: looks good to have a lot of followers. I mean, 523 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 2: there's no point of having one hundred thousand followers if 524 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 2: they're all bots or fake or not interested in your business, Like, 525 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 2: that's not going to benefit you at all. 526 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 1: Do you know it's so random. There's a guy that 527 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: I follow on Instagram through some kind of work connection, 528 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: and he literally posts photos of sunsets randomly once a month, 529 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: and he keeps sharing, Oh, I've suddenly hit thirty eight 530 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: thousand on Instagram. This it's so embarrassing, and someone's like, 531 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: what with your once a month post? So he's clearly 532 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: gone off and bought Oh, I'll tell you after the podcast. 533 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 2: Do I know them then? 534 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: Probably? 535 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 2: Hi, guys, I'm Mille. We have just one Love Island 536 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 2: and we're ready to ask some questions. 537 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: This week, Milli and Liam were crowned the winners of 538 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: Love Island UK, beating out Chloe and Toby. Following the finale, 539 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: talk has already turned to which Islanders will ultimately reign supreme, 540 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: turning their Love Island experience into a career outside of 541 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: the villa. Firstly, what did everyone think of the result. 542 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 2: I'm still in a spiral of deep depression that the 543 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 2: show is over. I feel like I haven't come to 544 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: terms with it because I don't know what I'm gonna 545 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 2: watch now. I think I'm gonna have to download Binge 546 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: and start watching Melbourne Housewives like Amy has. 547 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: Oh. Yes, I was happy. 548 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 2: With the result. I wasn't surprised because I well, Sophie 549 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 2: follows a Love Island UK paid on Outspoken's Instagram account 550 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 2: and I actually saw it two days ago and I 551 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: was fuming that it had been ruined for me. 552 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: See to me, I don't really care whether I know 553 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: the winner or not, because I don't think that the 554 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: show is about who wins. I agree. I mean, I 555 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: was kind of hoping that Chloe and Toby won, but 556 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised that Millian Liam did. However, there was 557 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: a lot of outcry in the UK over the fact 558 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: that Chloe and Toby didn't win. A journalist from The 559 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: Guardian described Chloe and Toby as having the delightful, phizzy 560 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 1: energy of two barokas dissolving, but then went on to 561 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: describe Millian Liam as being more like a prozac prom 562 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: King and Queen. Do you guys agree with that description 563 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: because everyone sort of thought, well, they were kind of boring. 564 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 2: No, I don't. 565 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: Agree with it at all. I was rooting for Millian 566 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: Liam the whole time. I think that they had the 567 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: most genuine love story out of all of the couples. 568 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: You could really sense how much they how in love 569 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: they really are. 570 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 2: See this will be an unpopular opinion, but I don't 571 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 2: see them lasting. I mean the fact that they live 572 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 2: so far apart. I know Liam has said that he's 573 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 2: going to move to Essex from Wales, but I feel 574 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 2: like Millie couldn't even trust him being in a villa 575 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 2: for three days. 576 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: But they were only together for a few weeks at 577 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: that stage. 578 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I feel like he kind of they've sort 579 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 2: of turned it on a bit and suddenly they're in 580 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 2: love and suddenly their boyfriend and girlfriend. Like I definitely 581 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 2: noticed a change in the men's behavior once it started 582 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 2: coming around to the final week, and I don't know, 583 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 2: I was talking to Reese. We don't think some of 584 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 2: the men were that genuine, particularly when the girls were like, oh, 585 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 2: we've got all the guys whipped They're out making nice 586 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 2: coffees for us with whipped cream. I doubt that will 587 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 2: continue happening when the cameras have stopped rolling. 588 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: I could definitely see that with people like Tyler and 589 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: maybe even Teddy in some situations, but I don't think 590 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: that you can fake that sort of affection for someone. 591 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: I think that Liam was genuinely sorry over what he 592 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: did and it made him realize how much he does 593 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: love Millie. All the couples in the house that that 594 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: they were the mum and dad of the house and 595 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: had the deepest connection. 596 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 2: I'm not denying their can I think that they are 597 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 2: a good couple. However, Liam is twenty two years old. 598 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 2: He is about to get more attention than he could 599 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 2: ever imagine, and there are going to be girls sliding 600 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 2: into his dms. He's going to be out at nightclub appearances, 601 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 2: and I think the fact that Milly deep down will 602 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 2: not trust him and that will cause issues in their relationship. Well, 603 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 2: Liam has in fact confirmed that he is going to 604 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 2: be moving to Essex, where Milli is from. But interestingly 605 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: the pair are having to quarantine separately. So Spain is 606 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 2: on the UK's Amber list, so anyone who isn't fully 607 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 2: vaccinated is required to quarantine for ten days, so they 608 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 2: actually have to do it separately. 609 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: What a pr disaster for Love Ireland. Can you imagine 610 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: trying to get all of the TV and morning showing 611 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: interviews in place and then only being able to do 612 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: it by zoom. 613 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 2: But why can't they quarantine together as well? If they 614 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 2: both returned back, surely they could do it together. I 615 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 2: think it might have something to do with you have 616 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: to quarantine at your residence. But I saw Chloe and 617 00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 2: Toby isolating together. 618 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Maybe it's because he's from Wales. I 619 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:03,239 Speaker 1: don't know. 620 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 2: But you say it's funny that you said that Spain 621 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 2: is on the UK's Amber list and people have to 622 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 2: quarantine because Milli and Liam. I saw a video of 623 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 2: them walking out of the airport hand in hand. They 624 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 2: weren't wearing masks and they just got into like two 625 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 2: taxis and drove off. It doesn't seem like it's very strict. 626 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: Oh well, I saw they had to wear masks on 627 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: the plane because they put up a photo of them 628 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: kissing with masks on Can I just say, though, does 629 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: anyone else think that it's obviously going to be more 630 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: beneficial for Liam's potential media career for him to be 631 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: in Essex as opposed to Wales. Yeah, definitely, that's. 632 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 2: What I first thought too. I feel like it's no 633 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 2: surprise that most of the contestants went on Love Island 634 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 2: to kick start their influencer careers. Amy, can you run 635 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 2: us through which islander has gained the biggest following whilst 636 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 2: in the villa. 637 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: Well, the big winner has been Milli, who gained over 638 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: one point three million followers, and it's not really surprising 639 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: considering she and Liam won the show. For those who 640 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: don't know, Milli was a fashion Buyers administrator for aesos 641 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: before going into the Villa, so she previously had a 642 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: following of six thousand and Milli is my pick to 643 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: be the islander that gets the Fast Fashion deal a 644 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: bit like Molly May, I. 645 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 2: Feel like the only person standing in Milly's way is 646 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 2: Liberty now. Liberty chose to leave the Villa after breaking 647 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 2: up with her then boyfriend Jake, and in the process, 648 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 2: she gained one point three million followers despite leaving the 649 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 2: show before the finale, and she was the first Islander 650 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 2: to reach one million followers. So I really do think 651 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 2: the way Liberty handled the situation on the show has 652 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 2: garnered her a lot of support outside of the Villa, 653 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 2: and I just think that people really like to sympathize 654 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 2: with someone. She went through a really difficult situation and 655 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 2: a lot of people could relate to what she went 656 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 2: through and how she would be feeling. 657 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: I have to disagree because I think that whilst Liberty 658 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: may get some media opportunities like appearing on maybe the 659 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: dancing shows over in the UK. I think that Milli 660 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: is the perfect choice for some sort of fashion role. 661 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: As you said, she is a fashion buyer. A lot 662 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: of people really enjoy her fashion and it resonates with them. However, 663 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: I don't think many people really like Liberty's fashion. I 664 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: think they might each get a deal, and I feel 665 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: like Millie's will be more high brow. 666 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 2: But Kaz, we've got to remember, is a fashion influencer. 667 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 2: So what about Kaz. 668 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: Well, what's interesting is Kaz only has not only because 669 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: it's still a lot of followers, but she's got seven 670 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: hundred thousand followers, so she's got six hundred thousand less 671 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: than both Millie and Liberty. 672 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: It's really strange because she was one of the most 673 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 2: popular contestants in the villa before Cassa or Moore, and 674 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 2: that's where things all started to change. But she really 675 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 2: didn't do anything wrong except take Tyler back. Yeah, I 676 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,959 Speaker 2: think no one really bought into their relationship because it 677 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 2: was quite clear that Tyler was in it for Instagram 678 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 2: followers and tried to make their relationship look better than 679 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 2: it actually was. 680 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: And also the fact that he didn't even ask her 681 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: to be his girlfriend. He asked her to be exclusive, 682 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: which is really quite an in in the film, and 683 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: then even on their. 684 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 2: Last date, he was like, oh, well, we'll see. It's 685 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 2: like they're talking about being boyfriend and girlfriend as if 686 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 2: it's getting married. He liked to use this line, which 687 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of guys gas lighting girls 688 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 2: like to do. I've had this one said to me 689 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 2: before by a previous ex boyfriend. Oh, the next person 690 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 2: I date I want to end up with, and it's 691 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 2: a way to be like, oh, hang on, I'm still 692 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 2: trying to work out if that's going to be you. 693 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: We'll just going back to the follower counts, Chloe also 694 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: hit one million followers, and she was the third most 695 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: popular islander according to Instagram followers. Then it was Liam 696 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: who got eight hundred and eighty six thousand followers. Interestingly, 697 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: Fay came in in fifth place with eight hundred and 698 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: seventy three thousand, so over four hundred thousand less than 699 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: Liberty and Millie. I don't know if that's that surprising, 700 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: though it does not surprise. 701 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 2: Me with her behavior and all her arguing, but I 702 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 2: have followed her. I am a Fay fan. 703 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: How awkward was it when Teddy's family came in and 704 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: it was so apparent that. 705 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 2: They really disliked faith. It creaked me out how similar 706 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 2: they've voices where I know that sounds stupid because everyone 707 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 2: messages us saying that they can't tell us apart, but 708 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 2: I feel like if Fay and her sister had a podcast, 709 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,439 Speaker 2: they would be going through the same issues. Also, Kaz 710 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 2: and her sister's voice were very similar. 711 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: It's funny because I've been listening to Claire and Jesse 712 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: Stevens new podcast called Canceled, and I'm feeling now how 713 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 1: everyone else feels when they listen to ours, because I 714 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: have no idea who is speaking. 715 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, for those who don't know, Claire and Jesse are twins, 716 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: and I pride myself on telling their voices apart because 717 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 2: I listened to Jesse a lot on Mamma Mia out Loud, 718 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 2: and I feel like there is a slight difference to 719 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 2: Claire's voice. But yeah, I did feel sorry for our 720 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 2: listeners when I listened to the podcast. 721 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: Well, I have one last piece of love Island and 722 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: news for everybody, and it's about prayer. So she was 723 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 1: a medical student voted out after a week in the villa. 724 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 2: She's famously went on a taxiderming date as well. 725 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's revealed that she donated her Love Island paycheck 726 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: to the NHS Charities Together, so she shared the news 727 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: on her Instagram account. It kind of gives a bit 728 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: of an insight into what the Love Islanders are paid 729 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: to appear. So she received seven hundred and fifty pounds 730 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: for her week on the show, which is pretty much 731 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: in line with what other reality contestants are receiving around 732 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: the world. Yeah, that's not much, is it. 733 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 2: No, Well, I feel like the payday comes when they 734 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 2: get out of the house and they've got a million followers. 735 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: I'm surprised they do actually get paid because they've got 736 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: their food and rent. 737 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 2: Provided for me to that time. I really enjoyed last 738 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 2: night because I finally was able to follow the contestants' 739 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 2: Instagram accounts because I had banned myself because I didn't 740 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 2: want any spoilers, even though I had the whole finale 741 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 2: ruined for me anyway, And I found it so interesting 742 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 2: scrolling back and looking at the contestants' previous posts to 743 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 2: be being on Love Island. 744 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: I feel like that's sort of real favorite things to do. 745 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt you've got a real vibe of who 746 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 2: they were, and so many of the men came across 747 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 2: as the biggest posers and wanna be on their Instagram accounts. 748 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, they'd instantly be like if they were on Tinder 749 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: or Bumble, it'd be instant. Like stick, they just looked 750 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: like every photo of theirs was topless, and it's like 751 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: they've obviously got a good body to show off, but 752 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: you kind of want to see a bit more than that. Well, 753 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: I think that's all we have time for. Thank you 754 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 1: so much for joining us for today's episode. If you 755 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 1: have enjoyed it, could you please make sure you support 756 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: the podcast by subscribing on Apple Podcasts and also Spotify. 757 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: And if you would like to join in on the conversation, 758 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 1: please join us in our Facebook community, which has outspoken 759 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 1: the podcast community.