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Speaker 1: Already and this is the Daily This is the Daily OS.

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Speaker 2: Oh, now it makes sense. Good morning and welcome to

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Speaker 2: the Daily OS. It is Friday, the eighteenth of October.

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Speaker 2: I'm Billy, I'm Chloe. A former band member of One Direction,

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Speaker 2: Liam Payne, has been found dead in Buenos Aires, the

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Speaker 2: capital of Argentina. Paine is survived by his seven year

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Speaker 2: old son, who he shared with former partner singer Cheryl Cole.

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Speaker 1: Today we will trace the rise.

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Speaker 2: Of the British musician, his remarkable success with one of

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Speaker 2: the world's most popular boy bands of all time, his

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Speaker 2: solo career, and the struggles he faced in the spotlight.

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Speaker 2: But before we get the Chloe, what is making headlines today?

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Speaker 2: King Charles and Queen Camilla will land in Australia this

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Speaker 2: evening for their first visit since their twenty twenty two coronation,

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Speaker 2: an event hosted by Prime Minister Anthony Abernezi. In Canberra,

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Speaker 2: the King will meet fellow politicians, community leaders and other

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Speaker 2: prominent Australians, but not the state premiers, all of whom

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Speaker 2: said they were unable to attend. In Sydney, the King

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Speaker 2: and Queen will view the Navy fleets before attending a

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Speaker 2: community barbecue to experience the cultural diversity of Australian communities.

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Speaker 2: The trip mark's the furthest overseas trip for the seventy

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Speaker 2: five year old since he was diagnosed with cancer in

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Speaker 2: February this year. He first visited Australia in nineteen sixty

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Speaker 2: six as a high school student. Australia's unemployment rate remained

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Speaker 2: unchanged at four point one percent in September. According to

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Speaker 2: the latest ABS figures. That unemployment rate reflects the percentage

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Speaker 2: of people who were looking for work but couldn't find any.

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Speaker 2: This figure is seasonally adjusted, meaning that ABS has removed

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Speaker 2: the effects of calendar specific patterns from the data, like

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Speaker 2: fruit picking in summer or Christmas casuals in retail. In December,

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Speaker 2: American Vice President Kamala Harris gave her first interview to

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Speaker 2: Fox News, a traditionally conservative network, yesterday. The Democratic presidential

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Speaker 2: candidate was grilled on immigration, her predecessor Joe Biden, and

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Speaker 2: her rival Donald Trump. The interview comes as part of

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Speaker 2: Harris's push to win over right wing voters. After meeting

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Speaker 2: with over one hundred Republicans in the key swing state

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Speaker 2: of Pennsylvania earlier that day and In today's Good News,

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Speaker 2: former New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Adern has been knighted.

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Speaker 2: Adern was made a Grand Companion of the New Zealand

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Speaker 2: Order of Merit by Prince William and Princess Kate in

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Speaker 2: a ceremony at Windsor Castle, officially giving her the title

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Speaker 2: of Dane. In a social media post, William and Kate

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Speaker 2: said it was a privilege to give the award to

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Speaker 2: a friend and an extraordinary advocate. Ardurne said she was

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Speaker 2: humbled by the huge honour, calling it an acknowledgment of

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Speaker 2: everyone who supported her during her years of leadership. Chloe,

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Speaker 2: before we do this podcast, I think it's important to

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Speaker 2: talk about a few of the comments the Daily Ods

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Speaker 2: got yesterday where some people were questioning why we were

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Speaker 2: reporting on the details of this death, and I just

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Speaker 2: quickly wanted to really explain our thinking and explain why

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Speaker 2: we think that this is news worth reporting on, because

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Speaker 2: our audience is right that traditionally TDA doesn't really report

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Speaker 2: many stories from the pop culture space. But I think

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Speaker 2: that yesterday this story about the death of Lee and

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Speaker 2: Paine was one of the biggest news stories in the world,

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Speaker 2: and it's always worth us breaking these stories down so

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Speaker 2: that you can be informed with the facts of the

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Speaker 2: conversations that are happening around you, especially when there are

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Speaker 2: so many, you know, rumors and conspiracy theories. You know,

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Speaker 2: we really want to break it down for you with

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Speaker 2: all of the facts that we know. We also know

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Speaker 2: that for TDA, obviously, our audience is largely young people,

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Speaker 2: and many of us, including you and I Chloe, grew

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Speaker 2: especially when Liam Payne was only thirty one and he

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Speaker 1: No one could believe it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because he was so young, and it feels like

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Speaker 2: We know, Billy that he was in Argentina at the time.

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Speaker 2: What else do we know? Yeah, so he was in

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Speaker 2: Payne's rise to fame, because there were so many highs

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Speaker 2: so I want to talk about when did Payne first

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Speaker 1: He was really young. I don't think I realized how

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Speaker 2: He was fourteen years old when he first auditioned for

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Speaker 3: One person hoping to continue the success and make his

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Speaker 1: It's fourteen year old schoolboy, Liam.

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Speaker 1: And now you might not know this quote.

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Speaker 2: The group actually came third on the show, so they

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry if I'm offending his fans, but I personally

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Speaker 2: But it was One Direction's debut single what Makes You

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Speaker 2: So the band went on to release five albums. The

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Speaker 2: I thought I'd ask you what is your favorite One

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Speaker 1: That's so fine. It's like, you know the song.

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Speaker 1: I loved History. That is maybe one of the greatest

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Speaker 2: Liam's debut single was called Strip That Down. It was

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Speaker 2: I remember that song hugely because of the viral choreography.

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Speaker 3: I was worried how far my rock bottom was going

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Speaker 2: She would actually often post on TikTok of the pair.

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Speaker 2: and how unbelievably tragic this story is. Billy, thank you

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