Speaker 1: Hey, legends, welcome back to The Mason Cox Show. Big
Speaker 1: episode today, Freo fans, we feel for you. A tough
Speaker 1: way to end the season at Carlton. Congratulations. I guess
Speaker 1: I'm not really too sure. We're going to talk about
Speaker 1: that water bottle that was thrown against the Onpire. Seriously,
Speaker 1: what is going on there. We're going to break that down. Lastly,
Speaker 1: some retirees. Razor Ray the legend himself finishes up Dusty Martin,
Speaker 1: one of the goats of the game. He's done. Also,
Speaker 1: we're gonna break that down much much more so. Settle
Speaker 1: in because we're starting now. All right, Legends, let's get
Speaker 1: straight into this. There's a big, big episode coming out.
Speaker 1: Without further ado, Welcome Breton car.
Speaker 2: Get a ice speak. Coming to the end of the year.
Speaker 2: Sad times, but yeah I did. There was a bit
Speaker 2: of a roller coaster on Sunday because the games were
Speaker 2: all important. The other the other couple of days they
Speaker 2: would just big blowouts to the finals teams. But I'm
Speaker 2: giving my cl this week. I'm jumping straight into it
Speaker 2: because I'm giving it. I'm giving it to the Free
Speaker 2: Men football because what the hell Saint Kilda come out
Speaker 2: and did exactly what they had to do, which was
Speaker 2: no easy feit that the run over the top of Carlton,
Speaker 2: and they did it in the dying seconds with Jack
Speaker 2: Higgins snapping it across his body. Big celebrations scenes all
Speaker 2: the Carlton fans. I kept showing them crying in the
Speaker 2: in the stands, heads down.
Speaker 1: The finals were done.
Speaker 2: It was like a twenty twenty two flashback where you
Speaker 2: broke their hearts and all over again. They were having
Speaker 2: all those traumatic experiences because alls that had to happen
Speaker 2: for Carlton to get knocked out of the finals was
Speaker 2: we go over to Perth and we watched Freo win
Speaker 2: a home game against Port. Now we know Port's good.
Speaker 2: We get around ken Hinckley. They're now second on the
Speaker 2: ladder after the win. But come on, it was you know,
Speaker 2: literally season on the line. Your whole year you've done.
Speaker 2: You started back before Christmas, all the hard sessions, you
Speaker 2: go away, you come back, you do all more hard
Speaker 2: sessions in the sun, the heat, Perth heat forty five
Speaker 2: degree days, extras.
Speaker 3: You're doing your two k time trials.
Speaker 2: You're skinnies, you're missing family and friends and sacrificing weekends.
Speaker 2: No drinking, you're eating right, you're doing it all and
Speaker 2: then you come up and you dish up that putridge.
Speaker 3: That was that football game.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I sent producer Harrow on the decks. I sent them
Speaker 2: a message saying Rotchies reserves. They would have rocked up
Speaker 2: and they at least would have had some ticker mace
Speaker 2: because what they put out there. And I can look
Speaker 2: down here and every Fremantle fan on the planet Earth
Speaker 2: would be agreeing right now, nodding at the screen with
Speaker 2: their headphones in because.
Speaker 3: That was putrid. Like one, pick up the ball.
Speaker 2: Two you've got that many forwards in your team list
Speaker 2: of Fords. Yeah, you got big Dick Tracy. He's out
Speaker 2: at the moment and he's an important pillar, But you
Speaker 2: got that many Fords. Collingwood would kill to have one
Speaker 2: of those blokes up there, but come on, they got
Speaker 2: forty of them up there.
Speaker 3: Hit one of them, just hit one of them. Hit
Speaker 3: a lead.
Speaker 2: Move the ball quick so you can get some action
Speaker 2: going because they just took so long and port was
Speaker 2: just you know, meandering back into D fifty, clog out
Speaker 2: of it and then they rebound out of there. Sarong
Speaker 2: got tagged out of the game, first game in forty
Speaker 2: years that he hasn't had over twenty disposals, probably not
Speaker 2: the game for it. Uh. And the moment that Hayden
Speaker 2: Young came off with his corked calf or whatever the
Speaker 2: hell he had, it was done. It was game over.
Speaker 2: And they just did so many stupid things, little fifty
Speaker 2: metal penalties and like, so.
Speaker 1: It's safe to say Fremantle Film of the Bag rather
Speaker 1: than Port Adelaide won that game. They're having an absolute crack.
Speaker 3: Very evident thing.
Speaker 2: And this is like disgusting for me to say. I
Speaker 2: can't say this because I don't play footy at any
Speaker 2: level and it's terrible. But looking at the two midfields, yeah,
Speaker 2: you look at Port and you go, there's some savage
Speaker 2: blokes that just want to win games of footy out there.
Speaker 3: They got butters, they got.
Speaker 2: Horny frank Like, they get in there, they rip the
Speaker 2: ball out and they charge their team forward and it
Speaker 2: just Freo didn't have that, which was very disappointing.
Speaker 3: But that's it.
Speaker 2: They're done, and I'm gonna this is probably a bit
Speaker 2: for later, but they also cost themselves a draft pick slut.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about later. We'll get into that letter. I
Speaker 1: feel like you're still very hot. You've you've come off
Speaker 1: the top with absolute steam coming out of your ears.
Speaker 3: Hot because we give it a bit of energy that
Speaker 3: it deserves.
Speaker 2: And I'm just angry on behalf of the Frio fans
Speaker 2: because that was past tackle. You know, you know they
Speaker 2: put up the little they put up the Fox Footy
Speaker 2: precious stats.
Speaker 3: I don't know what that is, but they were in
Speaker 3: the poor.
Speaker 2: Calculator is excellent one end and then there's free down
Speaker 2: the other end in the poll on the red. So
Speaker 2: you know, you think if the whole season's on the line,
Speaker 2: you probably want.
Speaker 3: To be up in the green.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes sense anyway. Wow, Well, I'm going to
Speaker 1: continue the grilling and my clanger of the week. Obviously
Speaker 1: there's a bit of media you could say around this now.
Speaker 1: In the Carlton versus Saint Kill the game, there was
Speaker 1: a bit of a disgusting act as you could say,
Speaker 1: that was done. A water bottle that was thrown at
Speaker 1: a goal umpire, just absolutely ridiculous, weak, just weakest pissed,
Speaker 1: you could say. Then they're going through the details now
Speaker 1: trying to find the person on cameras and stuff that
Speaker 1: did it. And try to ban them or whatever. The
Speaker 1: you know, the retro band's going to be for that.
Speaker 1: But that's just it's terrible as that from the beginning.
Speaker 1: But that's just like, that's just like you're a terrible
Speaker 1: human to be doing that stuff. Like these people are
Speaker 1: not getting paid the big money to be there. They
Speaker 1: absolutely love football. They take all the criticism everything on board.
Speaker 1: And you're going to do that to someone Like if
Speaker 1: it was a player, it be just as bad, don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, but I'd feel like there'd be a
Speaker 1: lot more uproar around it. Yeah, but because it's an
Speaker 1: ompire's as much. But it I mean, the guy was
Speaker 1: bleeding on the back of his head. They had to
Speaker 1: take him off and put them essentially put them on
Speaker 1: ice for the rest of the game. And for something
Speaker 1: that is so controllable, like you would think even the
Speaker 1: people around him after they him or her whoever did it,
Speaker 1: would be sitting there going, mate, what are you doing? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they'd be pointing them out, saying, get that fella
Speaker 1: or girl out of this joint. That's not acceptable. And
Speaker 1: you hold people to a higher standard, you really do.
Speaker 1: And I just think that was something over the weekend
Speaker 1: you saw and just said, man, that is just that's
Speaker 1: not what being a footy fans about.
Speaker 2: We've talked about players overstepping the mark at times this
Speaker 2: year when you know you might boo, but it brings
Speaker 2: out the passion in you, and there's definitely a line
Speaker 2: that you can cross, and I think throwing a bottle
Speaker 2: at someone like you should be able to go anywhere
Speaker 2: without being assaulted, but you should be able to go
Speaker 2: to your workplace do your job without fear of being
Speaker 2: assaulted by someone, especially with well, it's a weapon, it's
Speaker 2: a projectile. So hopefully they tuck him down and there's
Speaker 2: no way that they're not tracking down this.
Speaker 1: Person therest believe there are that many cameras and more. Boy,
Speaker 1: if they haven't caught the person yet, I'm blown away.
Speaker 1: You've got tickets of who's in what seats, you can
Speaker 1: easily email them back. You know, everyone's got their email
Speaker 1: attached to it. You've got all the camera angles, you've
Speaker 1: got the people sitting around them, Like, I'm amazed they
Speaker 1: haven't had the person ousted yet. It's incredible.
Speaker 2: They'll have face scanning technology, they'll be they'll get them
Speaker 2: and it wouldn't surprise me if it's one of those
Speaker 2: self report things where in the light of day you
Speaker 2: come out and you go, I've made a big mistake.
Speaker 1: What do you do band for life?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you probably have to because life for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you can't like you can back someone in. Obviously everyone
Speaker 2: gets a chance to be rehabilitated, but you probably lost
Speaker 2: your privilege to be able to go and enjoy the
Speaker 2: sport that other people are just there trying to enjoy.
Speaker 2: We all do love the passion and is what makes
Speaker 2: the sport what it is.
Speaker 3: But you can't cross the line.
Speaker 1: So that's just beyond stepping over over the line. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just want to that's my Clanier of the week because
Speaker 1: it's unacceptable if I'm being honest with you. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I understand umpires. You can get passionate about calls they're
Speaker 1: making things like that, but there's definitely a line there
Speaker 1: of letting them be able to go to their job
Speaker 1: do their job without being assaulted by people in the
Speaker 1: crowd like those absurd to think that actually happened. So
Speaker 1: cleaniar to you. But let's get to the results now,
Speaker 1: let's get into the next stuff.
Speaker 2: Ridiculous and we like the results this week because off
Speaker 2: the top Melbourne they went down to the mighty Magpies
Speaker 2: fifty seven and one oh three. That's a big win
Speaker 2: to finish off the season for Collingwood. Hawthorne footy club.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Now I saw a couple of players
Speaker 2: out there from the Hawthorn team getting stuck into the
Speaker 2: North team. And it's pretty easy when you can say
Speaker 2: we were tipped to be down the bottom with yours
Speaker 2: and look where we.
Speaker 1: Are seventy points.
Speaker 2: You got to be as a North fan where you know,
Speaker 2: we're very conscious about sticking the boots in.
Speaker 1: We'll get that.
Speaker 2: We'll get into that later. Geelong got the job done
Speaker 2: over West Coast. They're happy to knockoff. I reckon for
Speaker 2: the year. It would be very annoying to fly all
Speaker 2: the way over here, all the way down to Geelong,
Speaker 2: then all the way back. So I feel a bit
Speaker 2: sorry for the West Coast Eagles players. So have a
Speaker 2: good break, recharge, go again, Richmond, knockoff you're done to
Speaker 2: big retirees. At the end of that, we saw a dusty,
Speaker 2: teary eyed Dustin Martin coming from the field.
Speaker 3: Which is grimes different to see.
Speaker 2: I loved seeing that a bit of the human side
Speaker 2: come out and a bit of vulnerability as he walked
Speaker 2: off the mcg.
Speaker 1: Scorecast, Like you know, obviously demos over there coaching and stuff.
Speaker 1: There would have been people within that program that he
Speaker 1: was connected with through his time at Richmond, so I
Speaker 1: think emotional for him leaving Richmond, but also having those
Speaker 1: kind of people like that were at the game that
Speaker 1: he was competing the team was competing against, still be
Speaker 1: involved as would have been a lot and.
Speaker 2: We saw another goodbye. Dyson Hepple got to say his
Speaker 2: goodbye to all the loyal Brisbane Lions fans at the Gabba.
Speaker 3: That was good to see.
Speaker 2: Got chaired off eighty seven points to sixty seven.
Speaker 3: Real stinker. By the looks of the scoreboard.
Speaker 2: Brisbane could have absolutely dominated, but just decided to kick goals.
Speaker 2: They just wanted to do it one point at a time,
Speaker 2: which was great for all the spectators. Sydney v Adelaide,
Speaker 2: Sydney getting the points there, you know Adelaide so so yeah,
Speaker 2: very dangerous at times.
Speaker 1: Had a few upsets Adelaide. They upset a few people
Speaker 1: along the way.
Speaker 2: And then a couple of stinkers along the way. So
Speaker 2: Western Bulldogs GWS starting off the Super Sunday and that
Speaker 2: was a wild game out of Ballarat windsor plenty. Western
Speaker 2: Bulldogs got the job done, which locked them into finals
Speaker 2: because we probably didn't you know, talk about that enough
Speaker 2: that if they had lost that game, they were a
Speaker 2: chance to miss the whole thing. So pretty well, but
Speaker 2: they got the job done over GWS Carlton.
Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, Wow, we we're going to dive into.
Speaker 2: Events losing to Saint Kilda. I don't know how you
Speaker 2: feel about making finals after a loss.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was a real deprestating and exciting day.
Speaker 1: Or there's a lot of emotions on Sunday as a
Speaker 1: Carlton fan. If you're out.
Speaker 3: And then free, oh my god, that's the worst.
Speaker 2: Anyway, let's jump straight into the big talking points, because
Speaker 2: I do want to just we need to go back,
Speaker 2: We need to acknowledge this, We need to do a
Speaker 2: mini reflect on it, because it wasn't us to be fair.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people in the media, probably too
Speaker 2: many people, and a lot of them don't know what
Speaker 2: to say, so they just throw ship. Now this is coding.
Speaker 1: Educated podcasters obviously would never do such a thing. Brandon.
Speaker 2: See, well, if you're going to sling ship like I
Speaker 2: sling shit at FREEO at the start of the podcast.
Speaker 2: Do it in the last game so they can't come
Speaker 2: out next week and win and make you look like
Speaker 2: an idiot exactly.
Speaker 1: So they're done timing.
Speaker 2: I've got I've got six months of being right, So
Speaker 2: that's how you do it.
Speaker 1: Improve me wrong.
Speaker 2: That's got to really anyway, everyone came out after three
Speaker 2: coaches in particular, we got Chris Fagan, Kenny Hinckley and
Speaker 2: we got bever Luke Beveridge. They were mid season, they
Speaker 2: were all sacked. Everyone sacked him. You can't go on
Speaker 2: after that last You can't go on after that last. Well,
Speaker 2: it turns out every team sucked this year. They all
Speaker 2: had patches. Even Sydney Swans that were so far ahead
Speaker 2: had a terrible patch, a horrific patch. So that's whirred
Speaker 2: those three coaches.
Speaker 1: They're in finals, aren't they.
Speaker 2: With a chance home final? But they sacked him midyear.
Speaker 2: His fans were booing him off the field. They had
Speaker 2: the sign as you entered Adelaide. I don't even know
Speaker 2: if that was this year, because they want to sack
Speaker 2: him every year. Talk about character building, resilience.
Speaker 1: Resilience, yes, resilience under pressure. Ken Henkley is your man.
Speaker 1: Write a book, So write an absolute book. Do some talks,
Speaker 1: because you could you hitimize it.
Speaker 2: He could go on and he could be the CEO
Speaker 2: of a Forbes Top one hundred whatever company on the
Speaker 2: planet Earth.
Speaker 3: He deals with pressure that well, it's sane.
Speaker 1: Anyway, we were always going to give our Ken Henley
Speaker 1: love every.
Speaker 2: Week he's he's up the tippy top because then you
Speaker 2: have Bevo and Fags who you know, Fags Brisbane started
Speaker 2: slow rolled back into it. They're still probably one of
Speaker 2: the more informed teams in the camp. Start with the
Speaker 2: big home final up there against Carlton and then Bev
Speaker 2: well we know that, we know that he likes to
Speaker 2: finish and have a run at the flag from the
Speaker 2: bottom four of the eighth. It's just where he's comfortable
Speaker 2: doing it from. Who needs the double chance when you
Speaker 2: can just you know, defy the odds. So he's back
Speaker 2: in finals as well, he's taken him to a couple,
Speaker 2: he's won them a flag.
Speaker 3: Everyone needs to just chill with.
Speaker 2: Just we give some space where we need a little
Speaker 2: next year. The media like everyone I say, we but
Speaker 2: are we we sit down, We reflect we don't go
Speaker 2: as hard week.
Speaker 1: To week because give it a feedback to the media, brod.
Speaker 3: We have looked stupid at times.
Speaker 2: Old of course not you were that you were overly
Speaker 2: steadfast on Gold Coast.
Speaker 3: Put your hand up for that one. That's that's on you.
Speaker 2: But gws, I'm still here and I must be just
Speaker 2: correct all the time.
Speaker 1: Anyway, question you halfway through that you had a little
Speaker 1: spot there.
Speaker 3: You're going, oh much off the bad one. There's one
Speaker 3: game off. I was one game off.
Speaker 1: It's about four weeks. I'd say.
Speaker 2: Now we go into the North Melbourne situation, because this
Speaker 2: is the whole you've missed them. Stats were kicking them
Speaker 2: while they're down. To kick them while they're down, they've
Speaker 2: got to be down, but they're never up. North is
Speaker 2: never up, so we can't kick them. Why they're up.
Speaker 2: They've been down for five seasons in a row. Now,
Speaker 2: if you're a North fan, are you putting up with this?
Speaker 2: MAT's twenty twenty three wins, twenty twenty one four wins,
Speaker 2: so they're on the way up. Building twenty twenty two
Speaker 2: two wins. That's half as many wins twenty twenty three
Speaker 2: to three wins. Twenty twenty four three wins, so they
Speaker 2: actually went backwards in percentage this year. So they got
Speaker 2: beaten worse more often this year than last.
Speaker 1: So that's you say that. But then I think like
Speaker 1: in the beginning of the year, North like we were like, oh, dude,
Speaker 1: North is putting up some numbers, like putting teams to
Speaker 1: the sword because it used to be like two three
Speaker 1: years ago. North was like, I mean, you look at
Speaker 1: their scores and stuff. It was probably like a sixty
Speaker 1: seventy point win from other teams like on average, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I know over the weekend they got smashed. But like
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year, there's been a hope
Speaker 1: for North, there was a bit of hope.
Speaker 3: That's a lot of leeway you're giving to a club.
Speaker 2: I did write it out that it was if you
Speaker 2: combine all the points they got from all their wins
Speaker 2: over the last five years, so you take their last
Speaker 2: five years, you canbine all the wins.
Speaker 3: They would have finished fifth this year on percentage.
Speaker 1: Fifteen wins, you would be fifth.
Speaker 2: Fifth with five years years over the winds, you can
Speaker 2: buy them all up, and they missed the top four
Speaker 2: on percentage.
Speaker 1: Yeez, that's rough.
Speaker 2: How do you sit there as a fan and you
Speaker 2: just someone did something horrific?
Speaker 1: Still fan that? Sorry? Yeah, North Melbourne fan. Credit to you.
Speaker 1: Credit to you for sticking with them. You know it's
Speaker 1: not easy. I'm sure it's tough over the last few years.
Speaker 1: Every team has to go through this, right, but yeah,
Speaker 1: just credit to you.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know it's a disappointing point because everyone
Speaker 2: says every team goes through it, but then you can
Speaker 2: clearly identify a few teams that don't go through it,
Speaker 2: like Sydney and Geelong, and you're like, they don't go
Speaker 2: through it. But yeah, I get it because we've all
Speaker 2: been there where it's like you've had a shitty week
Speaker 2: at work and you just want to go home and
Speaker 2: watch your team be good at foot.
Speaker 1: You want to have some kind of hope, and all.
Speaker 2: Through twenty twenty, all through the pandemic and then coming
Speaker 2: out and still no good. But we can see the list,
Speaker 2: the list should be getting better. So maybe it's a
Speaker 2: mentals thing. Have a bit of a maybe a Bali
Speaker 2: retreat by something over the off season and sparks some
Speaker 2: I don't know, some juice coming kind of helps.
Speaker 1: Anyway, We'll move to the next thing. We've got, the
Speaker 1: wild card round. There's been a lot of converse sation
Speaker 1: around whether or not this should be something they implement
Speaker 1: next year or further years. I mean, next year's probably
Speaker 1: a bit soon, but there's a lot of people saying
Speaker 1: it's a possibility. Now.
Speaker 3: Don't tune out.
Speaker 2: If you're listening to the podcast now and you've heard
Speaker 2: every shock jock talk about this shitty topic, don't tune out,
Speaker 2: don't switch podcast, stay with us, because we're gonna It's
Speaker 2: just the counterpoint for me that everyone talks about it
Speaker 2: promotes mediocrity. You know, the seasons made up of X
Speaker 2: amount of games, and you've got to win those.
Speaker 3: First of all.
Speaker 2: You obviously have the counterpoints of when it was back
Speaker 2: in the day early nineties, there wasn't as many finals,
Speaker 2: like there wasn't as many finalists. They expanded, more teams,
Speaker 2: more finals. They've expanded a couple times now once Tazzy
Speaker 2: comes in, more teams, more finals would make the most sense,
Speaker 2: or at least a chance to have more teams in there,
Speaker 2: because if you're at the afl AFL house, you want
Speaker 2: fans to have glimmers of hope, like you want your team,
Speaker 2: even if they're finishing in the lower end of the
Speaker 2: of the top eight or whatever, top ten, you want
Speaker 2: them to experience finals. And if you're looking at North
Speaker 2: and you're go on fight, you've gone years and years
Speaker 2: without finals. One, why would anyone want a barrack for North?
Speaker 2: How do they get new well or any team? But
Speaker 2: how do they how do they get new followers? How
Speaker 2: do they get new fans? If you've got to if
Speaker 2: you have a kid and you're like, na, trust me North,
Speaker 2: it's a great team.
Speaker 1: Like how do you support? They have no choice?
Speaker 2: You've got to be a great marketer to get your
Speaker 2: kid to come across the North Melbourne. But like things
Speaker 2: like that. But yeah, I just feel like one the
Speaker 2: fixture isn't even in the first place. Now obviously, I
Speaker 2: think that that's the biggest.
Speaker 1: Thing to fix, the.
Speaker 2: Biggest thing to fix. It's the easiest thing to manipulate
Speaker 2: to kind of shape the top eight. If you look
Speaker 2: at Carlton, Collingwood finished on this same amount of points,
Speaker 2: the same amount of wins. Percentage was the difference seven
Speaker 2: percent and Carleton makes the finals. They made a prelim
Speaker 2: last year, so they should have skewed a heavier, a
Speaker 2: harder fixture. But they got North twice, they got Richmond twice,
Speaker 2: the two bottom teams, and then they got West Coast.
Speaker 2: So there's five wins. They just go there, gift them
Speaker 2: five wins, whereas Collingwood didn't get any double ups at
Speaker 2: the bottom teams and they had the verse the top
Speaker 2: teams twice. So like that's an easy way to manipulate it.
Speaker 2: And when you talk about, oh, it's just promoting mediocrity,
Speaker 2: if you look at that, Carlton's lost six of their
Speaker 2: last nine games. The three wins that they had were
Speaker 2: against North, Richmond and West Coast, and they're taken up
Speaker 2: eighth slot after losing to Saints who aren't a top eighteen,
Speaker 2: And you're like, oh, what's promoting mediocrity? Getting it done
Speaker 2: early in the season and then absolutely like the ass
Speaker 2: end falls out of it as you're coming home. All
Speaker 2: the teams that have some momentum that finish ninth and
Speaker 2: tenth have a little play in toil.
Speaker 1: Almost. It's always tough to gauge if a team is
Speaker 1: going to be good before the season, right, I think
Speaker 1: you obviously look at kind of where teams fall the
Speaker 1: year before and you say, like, here's a mathematical thing
Speaker 1: of saying, like, you know, Sydney doesn't play the eighteen team,
Speaker 1: calling twice.
Speaker 3: A year twice this year one was going to be great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But there's also the thing of like calling us
Speaker 1: play twice, calling us to play Carlton twice. So I
Speaker 1: get that side of it, because there is money and
Speaker 1: financials that go into that. With the AFL looks at
Speaker 1: and says okay, with biggest following biggest kind of attendance.
Speaker 1: Also biggest people are going to watch on TV, like
Speaker 1: there's CBAS and all this kind of stuff with television
Speaker 1: rights along those lines too, So you have to be
Speaker 1: able to fit all these things in. So it's not
Speaker 1: as clear cut as just saying first doesn't play eighteen twice, Yeah,
Speaker 1: second doesn't play seventeen twice. There's a bit more that
Speaker 1: goes into it, just because of the way the AFL,
Speaker 1: you know, financially wants to try to make as much
Speaker 1: money as possible. And I get that, but as a
Speaker 1: Collingwood player, I can't say that, you know, we haven't
Speaker 1: been given unfortunate schedule because you look at Pertha traveling
Speaker 1: every other week, you look at the Gold Coast and
Speaker 1: I get that side of it, But going back to
Speaker 1: Carlton and the six of the last nine they've lost
Speaker 1: in the three they win, or essentially the bottom three teams,
Speaker 1: I don't think you'd be as a Carlton fan going
Speaker 1: I feel super confident going into finals. Baby, we lost
Speaker 1: our last one and we thought we're out, and then
Speaker 1: Freemantle fumbled it, and then we're back in and then
Speaker 1: we've got a few injuries that will be sweet. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's many Carlton fans probably feeling that.
Speaker 2: Because the counter counterpoint is Freo doesn't deserve a second
Speaker 2: chance out at either.
Speaker 1: Had a hard run at the very end of the
Speaker 1: year too, though. Yeah. So yeah, it's it's an interesting one.
Speaker 1: And this is I think that why the wild card
Speaker 1: round keeps coming up is because you know, essentially from
Speaker 1: Freyo was second on the ladder like four weeks ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you look at it now they've fallen out
Speaker 1: of the eight. So I think that whole situation of
Speaker 1: two three right being so like two through really twelve
Speaker 1: being so close, as many people go, oh man, like
Speaker 1: AFL's probably gone sweet. We can engage the audience for
Speaker 1: longer by putting another round in, right, Yeah, it might
Speaker 1: be during the bye week. Yeah, you've got the bye week,
Speaker 1: you put it in there. Does it probably disadvantage of
Speaker 1: teams going in there because they don't have another break, Yes,
Speaker 1: of course, but that's just part of the system. But
Speaker 1: for them it's going, oh sweet, extra game, extra money,
Speaker 1: extra viewership, keeps fans engaged for longer because they know
Speaker 1: their team has a chance to make finals. There's all
Speaker 1: these kind of benefits. The AFL looks at from a
Speaker 1: financial standpoint, goes probably, yeah, okay, like if we can
Speaker 1: do this and the players and the coaches and the
Speaker 1: teams all ticket off, they'll probably do it. Yeah, it's silly.
Speaker 1: I mean like we look at all the AFL decisions
Speaker 1: and like you know, the AFL doesn't exist. They don't
Speaker 1: make money. So if you're always going to assess something
Speaker 1: like this that they know will make a financial impact,
Speaker 1: they'll always assess it and probably are on the side
Speaker 1: of doing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does make sense. I feel like once it
Speaker 2: Tassi comes in, it's a note brainer. You've got to
Speaker 2: be doing it. Let's jump into the big winners because
Speaker 2: we're getting hyped for finals.
Speaker 3: I mean, well, what kind of hype there.
Speaker 2: But the Bulldogs are Bulldogs, big winners over GWS got
Speaker 2: them at the top of the big winners this week,
Speaker 2: although GWS a lot of laid outs, a lot of
Speaker 2: really important laid outs for them, so they'll hopefully get
Speaker 2: those top backup to be more competitive for the first
Speaker 2: week of finals.
Speaker 3: But let's jump in Bulldogs.
Speaker 1: Just talk about the wind, yeah mate, some of the
Speaker 1: stuff I was watching over the weekend just kicking it
Speaker 1: essentially out on the fall and just swinging and back
Speaker 1: and going through. Yeah. Oh baler rat Fara. Don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong. It's great to go to the country and play,
Speaker 1: but you'd be hoping for better conditions than that.
Speaker 2: Especially when the season is on the line, like for
Speaker 2: the Bulldogs and you.
Speaker 1: Know gv I top four. Yeah, looking at that.
Speaker 2: Positions and all of that stuff. To have it out
Speaker 2: at ballerrat, I thought that was hindsight. Obviously they can
Speaker 2: never tell like where all this is going to fall.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was a bit wild seeing blokes having
Speaker 2: to There was a couple of old houses that you
Speaker 2: can see in the background and you basically have to
Speaker 2: kick it at the roof of the old house. On
Speaker 2: the right for it to drift back through and get
Speaker 2: blown through the goals. It was just wild to see
Speaker 2: because like Jamara had a shot kicking into the breeze
Speaker 2: like thirty out dead in front and it went out
Speaker 2: of bounds on the full. After he kicked it to
Speaker 2: the left of goals, it drifted that far across the
Speaker 2: entire face of the goals.
Speaker 1: It just kind of looked at him was like, this
Speaker 1: is ridiculous. I just rolled out to the next stay.
Speaker 1: It just had this blank look of like, how in
Speaker 1: the world am I playing in these conditions right now?
Speaker 2: Jesse Hogan kicked one and it went dead straight and
Speaker 2: he was like, wait on, that's meant to where's the
Speaker 2: wind now? He must have found some pocket. But anyway, Balls,
Speaker 2: massive win for them. It gives them a well final spot. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was going to say it gives them a final spot,
Speaker 2: which is great, but now they're playing at the MCG
Speaker 2: in a home final against Hawthorne when it's Hawthorne's home
Speaker 2: ground and they're not playing at Marvel but who knows who?
Speaker 3: Who knows? But anyway, let's jump into port.
Speaker 2: Massive win over Free are not only knocking Freo out
Speaker 2: of finals but locking up top two for them, they
Speaker 2: basically just had to not lose by five goals, so
Speaker 2: they just the win was for a bit of momentum
Speaker 2: and to just screw over Freer. But yeah, locks in
Speaker 2: a top two spot for Port huge. Have you you
Speaker 2: wouldn't have you played a home game against Port in
Speaker 2: in finals in Adelaide though ever you're not in finals now,
Speaker 2: but you would have in general in general played a
Speaker 2: few games.
Speaker 1: I don't think we've ever played a post season finals
Speaker 1: match against them in the last ten years.
Speaker 2: But like journal sis during the season, Yeah, of course,
Speaker 2: how is it over there? How hostile is it? How's
Speaker 2: the crowd?
Speaker 1: Because it's like these things have like people sit like
Speaker 1: behind the bench and just horrible abuse and stuff, and
Speaker 1: it's like whenever you warm up, so can you kind
Speaker 1: of like run back and forth on the boundary to
Speaker 1: like get the legs warm after you know, halftime or something.
Speaker 1: If you're on the bench to start and people just
Speaker 1: give it to you. They just hackle the living shit
Speaker 1: out of here. It is insane and poor fans, are
Speaker 1: you know? They give it to you. They don't hold back.
Speaker 1: They don't hold back one bet. So I think you
Speaker 1: look at the teams. I think Port Adelaide's kind of
Speaker 1: one of the most abusive fan bases out there. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, they went wild in the showdown the other week,
Speaker 3: so like if the.
Speaker 1: Whole like showing the teeth thing just rolled them up
Speaker 1: and the like just fire in their eyes.
Speaker 2: I think a prelim final chance on the line home
Speaker 2: game in Adelaide, the fans are going to bring it.
Speaker 3: Never tear us apart is going to be wild.
Speaker 2: It'd be a great atmosphere from March to the stadium
Speaker 2: is going to be wild. Hopefully the sun's on point.
Speaker 2: It's nice there. Does the breeze come through the stand
Speaker 2: where there's no stand for there?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, the breeze is a bit unique because there's
Speaker 1: like no stand behind and there's just a grasshill and
Speaker 1: then there stands on the other side, so you get
Speaker 1: a bit of a bit swirler at times. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a great place to play well once it's a
Speaker 1: small ground, so it's a big fellow. You don't like
Speaker 1: to run around as much, so it's kind of nice
Speaker 1: to be able to get to contest to contest with
Speaker 1: killing yourself. But I love it, man, it's a great
Speaker 1: atmosphere every time you go there and the crowd just
Speaker 1: being so passionate just makes the atmosphere so much better.
Speaker 2: And we're going to see a little Ken Hinckley jig
Speaker 2: over there maybe, So hopefully that's what we're all waiting for.
Speaker 2: Hawthorne and Geelong, well they just boosted their morale heading
Speaker 2: into the finals just by absolutely murdering their opponents on
Speaker 2: the weekend.
Speaker 3: So just a little drive by just to say well done.
Speaker 1: Drive by to the teams at the bottom just really
Speaker 1: just dig the dagger in.
Speaker 3: No, Well, this one's another drive shout out.
Speaker 1: To Tom Hawk did a little lap of honor over
Speaker 1: there in julyong too, so I want to shout that
Speaker 1: out back to it and Zach Tuoa. Yeah, so tough
Speaker 1: see an International Fellows retire up one of the absolute
Speaker 1: legends of the game and the Torp King. You almost
Speaker 1: calm but him and Tom Hawk. You know, the last
Speaker 1: game at the Geelong Stadium was pretty special, So shout
Speaker 1: out to that. That was cool to see.
Speaker 2: It was nice because there was a moment where you
Speaker 2: Tom Hawkins is getting interviewed postgame and he was mindful
Speaker 2: that West Coast was lined up for the guard of Honors,
Speaker 2: So he kind of cut his interview short so West
Speaker 2: Coast could get off the field on field and then
Speaker 2: he could go back out there and do a million laps.
Speaker 2: But that was nice. He seems like just such a
Speaker 2: nice person. He's one of those bogs that you want
Speaker 2: him to talk about himself for a bit of reflection,
Speaker 2: and he just keeps saying how good everyone else is it?
Speaker 3: Like, we get that that's not the time for this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no one else is retiring you and Zach, so
Speaker 1: we talk about.
Speaker 2: You guys, And then this one. I just chucked this
Speaker 2: one in there. I don't know if I've mentioned I
Speaker 2: don't like to kick North while they're down. But Richmond
Speaker 2: lost their last game of the season to lock up
Speaker 2: the number one draft pick.
Speaker 1: Why do you say North? Was that maybe possibly a
Speaker 1: thing that did in the past with Harley reed, I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: One they cost themselves Harley read two. They almost won
Speaker 2: the spoon again by losing by as much as they did.
Speaker 2: If Richmond had to beat the Suns at the g
Speaker 2: not saying that they could have if they tried real hard.
Speaker 2: But they lost locked in the number one draft pick,
Speaker 2: and that's how it's done.
Speaker 1: Richmond wy I think it was zero point four percentage
Speaker 1: difference and like all of a sudden, Northalberget's the first pick.
Speaker 1: Sane Richmond's thinking long term love that.
Speaker 2: But now as a case study, if you look back
Speaker 2: and it's like wins matter more than like number one
Speaker 2: draft picks, We're a year on. North isn't any better,
Speaker 2: probably technically worse with the percentage, and they don't have
Speaker 2: the number one draft picks, so they kind of didn't
Speaker 2: get anything. So next time, if you if you can
Speaker 2: lose to win the number one draft pick, maybe just lose. Anyways,
Speaker 2: after this, I don't think they were big fans of
Speaker 2: ours anyway. Platforms subscribe just to hate on us, that's great.
Speaker 2: And then Saint Kilda, what was just a big win.
Speaker 1: Just to win they didn't need to have, like didn't
Speaker 1: do anything for the season, but just a real dagger
Speaker 1: for Carlton fans like the oh, the emotion in their
Speaker 1: faces is that game finished such a close one snap
Speaker 1: over the shoulder by Higgins, just the one, the one
Speaker 1: guy that you probably go, yeah, he's going to celebrate,
Speaker 1: he's gonna let you know.
Speaker 2: Did that kick earlier in the game where he hit
Speaker 2: it that hard. He just put everything into it, his
Speaker 2: whole body like levitated off the ground and he still
Speaker 2: managed to have the accuracy to put it through the middle.
Speaker 3: It's just great.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to give them a little bit of
Speaker 2: love because a couple of weeks ago I was like, Oh,
Speaker 2: they're winning these games on the run home. It must
Speaker 2: be a bit frustrating as a fan that it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: where was this earlier in the season to give us
Speaker 2: a chance at finals? But like now, I think it's
Speaker 2: at a point you'd flip flop it around. You've come
Speaker 2: to terms with you're not making finals, and then you're
Speaker 2: just happy that your team's kind of being competitive all
Speaker 2: the way to the end. Ross talked about how it's
Speaker 2: important for sponsors and members and all that to treat
Speaker 2: it with the respect that it deserves.
Speaker 1: It also shows you have a good culture where people
Speaker 1: just layover yeah you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, do not really have anything on the line.
Speaker 1: You say stuff it, I don't care, Like we're still
Speaker 1: going to give our best.
Speaker 2: And yeah, it gives them confidence going into next year,
Speaker 2: Like they beat you along the other week, then they
Speaker 2: like they're beating these finals bound teams, so they're thereabouts.
Speaker 1: So it's very similar to us against Melbourne, like it
Speaker 1: was very low possibility where ever going to make finals.
Speaker 1: Were still put out a really good performance. So I
Speaker 1: think it's a good sign your culture is in a
Speaker 1: good place.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, let's jump into the big losers.
Speaker 1: Uh, free did you mention this one?
Speaker 2: It deserves five or six slots in this podcast. So
Speaker 2: if you're a Freeo fan, this is that whole. This
Speaker 2: is cathartic. We're doing it for you.
Speaker 1: You were going to get it out of our system
Speaker 1: and then we're going to start fresh for next year.
Speaker 2: Because I love free As I've mentioned many times, my
Speaker 2: housemate is a Freeo die hard. I was barracking as
Speaker 2: hard as I could at the TV.
Speaker 3: Justin's a legend, legend, it's a it's a great place
Speaker 3: over there.
Speaker 2: They just couldn't get the win, which is annoying. They
Speaker 2: lost their last four to fumble finals. I went to
Speaker 2: the Essendon game which started it all off, big five
Speaker 2: goal lead, and they just couldn't get it done. It
Speaker 2: really that last center clearance that they streamed out of
Speaker 2: the middle and kicked the winning of the winning point
Speaker 2: or whatever it was, that was just like, Yeah, you.
Speaker 3: Stopped that center clearance. It's all done.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they also cost themselves a draft pick slot
Speaker 2: because losing, they dropped below Collingwood, and Collingwood is giving
Speaker 2: them their first round pick, so they It might be
Speaker 2: one of those ones that we look back and go
Speaker 2: like there was a kick after the siren that Richmond
Speaker 2: won and they ended up locking in Dustin Martin as
Speaker 2: the draft pick. You never know how it rolls out.
Speaker 2: It could be another one of those situations. But yeah,
Speaker 2: pretty amazing fall from grace of Frio, who only four
Speaker 2: weeks ago was.
Speaker 1: In that we feel for you right now.
Speaker 2: The pain now, Carlton, I was I'm a ring whether
Speaker 2: to chuck them in the biggest winners or the biggest
Speaker 2: losers because they have they had. They had a shock
Speaker 2: and loss against the team outside the eighth when it
Speaker 2: was all on the line for them. In their heads,
Speaker 2: it was all on the line.
Speaker 1: The power make finals, like it was all up to them.
Speaker 3: And they'd had some injuries.
Speaker 2: They went across the West Coast and got a decent
Speaker 2: win against West Coast who obviously haven't dished up much
Speaker 2: in the past couple of weeks. But you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: they went on to lose that game. They had all
Speaker 2: the momentum, the crowd got back into it, they hit
Speaker 2: the lead and then Higgins kicks the winner. A couple
Speaker 2: of shock and things to look back on and reflect
Speaker 2: for them. I'm sure you got the two weeks you've
Speaker 2: got to rest, recover and get all your injured players
Speaker 2: back or as many as you can to reload and
Speaker 2: go again. McGovern out hamstring late and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: It's it's, you know, it's you can't lump it all
Speaker 2: on injuries because if you look back, it's it's like
Speaker 2: I said, it's six of their last nine, so's they've
Speaker 2: only had injuries for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: Important and finals looking good for.
Speaker 3: Them, Yeah they have.
Speaker 2: They probably have trips if you're looking at the top
Speaker 2: eight at the moment. They have to go up to
Speaker 2: the Gabba and versus Brisbane at the Gabbo week one
Speaker 2: of finals in the elimination. So it's going to be
Speaker 2: a massive game, hopefully big turnout. Hopefully the fans can
Speaker 2: get up there, just see how confident they are that
Speaker 2: they can beat Brisbane, to see how many go up there.
Speaker 2: One last one, big losers Melbourne, just the game in general,
Speaker 2: but you could just see it was they were just done.
Speaker 1: But even their club over the last two or three
Speaker 1: weeks has copped quite a bit of criticism, and it's
Speaker 1: like one of those things where obviously you haven't finished
Speaker 1: on the top of the ladder, in the top eight,
Speaker 1: but then you pile on all the speculation and everything
Speaker 1: else that's going on and just kind of makes the
Speaker 1: whole experiences in Melbourne fan just feel kind of gross. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and yeah, just over the weekend, you just I Remember's
Speaker 1: sitting there finishing the game, like looking at him, thinking like,
Speaker 1: it's got to be tough. It's going to be a
Speaker 1: tough position to be in at the moment. Obviously, you know,
Speaker 1: they've been knocked out of finals quite a few times,
Speaker 1: you know, and back to back kind of losses, and
Speaker 1: people always pile on that, you know, and they did
Speaker 1: win the premiership recently, so they've had success. But after
Speaker 1: that premiership, there was all this expectation that they were
Speaker 1: going to do it again and again and again, and
Speaker 1: since then they just haven't been able to get back
Speaker 1: to that point. So you feel for Melbourne fans, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just kind of one of those things you have
Speaker 1: to suss out everything over the off season and then
Speaker 1: to go in with a fresh kind of attitude mindset
Speaker 1: for the next year.
Speaker 3: It is footy there is.
Speaker 2: It reminded me a bit of like the twenty sixteen
Speaker 2: seventeen times where like Collingwood would go to start the
Speaker 2: season and it would feel like I don't know if
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I don't know if journals do
Speaker 2: this on purpose, but they definitely do holding a story
Speaker 2: till the eve of the season drop a big bombshell
Speaker 2: that rattles a club. There was a couple of years
Speaker 2: I feel like in a row where Collingwood went through
Speaker 2: that and it starts to season off shaky, which is
Speaker 2: the Clayton Oliva stuff over the whole off season for them,
Speaker 2: and then it rolled into you know, the Petraka Spleen
Speaker 2: injury and now the speculation around him wanting out a
Speaker 2: fair few of their players exploring options. Yeah, it's just
Speaker 2: a rough time to be a supporter when all of
Speaker 2: that happens. And that's what I will say about calling
Speaker 2: what I said it last week. They they hold onto
Speaker 2: players like even in tough times, you guys are finishing
Speaker 2: like second last in less obviously you screw up your
Speaker 2: salary cap situation and then you have to you know,
Speaker 2: offload a couple players want to stay there, so like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's a rough one for fans to sit back
Speaker 2: and hear players from their club saying I want to
Speaker 2: go somewhere else, I want to explore other options. I
Speaker 2: think that's as deflating as anything. So yeah, horror run
Speaker 2: for them this year, fourteenth But yeah, it's and then
Speaker 2: the second lost, the second Collingwood.
Speaker 3: That doesn't help us to Stephen May.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember the comments, mate, Stephen
Speaker 2: Mays said, we're a hell of a lot better team
Speaker 2: than Collingwood. Can't believe Collingwood won the Grand Final.
Speaker 1: Well, guess what, I think you had a few drinks
Speaker 1: before that comment.
Speaker 2: You both you're both not there this season, so we
Speaker 2: can all look back and laugh at that as we
Speaker 2: jump into the Collingwood game.
Speaker 3: Because you did beat Melbourne.
Speaker 2: Quite convincingly in the end, it must have been a
Speaker 2: good feeling to get out there and finish the season
Speaker 2: with the wa.
Speaker 1: It took a bit longer than expected. It took a
Speaker 1: little bit longer and expect it. But the minute plush
Speaker 1: looking up at the scoreboard, and I didn't know like
Speaker 1: the clock would go that far up when it was
Speaker 1: like sixty five minutes, So I was like, I've never
Speaker 1: seen that before. Interesting, But yeah, now it's a great
Speaker 1: way to end the season. Obviously you'd want to be
Speaker 1: in the top eight and playing finals, but given the circumstances,
Speaker 1: you know, and I think it was a bit of
Speaker 1: a you go into that game knowing there's a low probability,
Speaker 1: but to show up and still, you know, provide kind
Speaker 1: of your best and be able to get that win
Speaker 1: on the last game of the season was a good
Speaker 1: way to wrap it up, I think in a sense
Speaker 1: with the situation, with the circumstances that are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think Fly said after Fly said a
Speaker 2: few funny comments and press up, but he said, in
Speaker 2: that last game, you did get to learn a fair
Speaker 2: bit about your list. Like obviously played a lot of
Speaker 2: kids Dan McStay Out, Sauna, Slate and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: So yeah, a lot of.
Speaker 2: These kids came in, not kids, young men came in,
Speaker 2: played you know, their early starts of their career. What
Speaker 2: did you think that you learned from your list, not
Speaker 2: only in that game but this year because you've had
Speaker 2: a lot of injuries, a lot of ins and outs.
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of opportunity, I think for the
Speaker 1: young guys this year, which has been awesome, and I
Speaker 1: think they've really kind of showed how good they are
Speaker 1: and that they can actually play at the level I
Speaker 1: think obviously you want kind of the best players playing employee.
Speaker 1: You know, we have a very experienced team, and some
Speaker 1: of those people were injured throughout the year, and that's
Speaker 1: just kind of part of it. But you look back
Speaker 1: on the year as a whole and you kind of realize,
Speaker 1: like we essentially tied two games where you know, you
Speaker 1: score one point, like one behind, and one of those
Speaker 1: games you win it and also can go the other way,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but one more point you essentially
Speaker 1: in finals. Yeah, it's like such a close margin in
Speaker 1: that sense. So that's one of the biggest lessons, I think.
Speaker 1: But for us, it was a great way to be
Speaker 1: able to get experience into some of our players given
Speaker 1: the circumstances we had, and you know, you're pretty proud
Speaker 1: of some of the guys that stepped up in the
Speaker 1: moment and we're able to kind of provide on the big,
Speaker 1: big stage.
Speaker 2: And He's good Ed Allen tell me a bit about him,
Speaker 2: because it was he's a big boy. When I saw
Speaker 2: him out there, I was like, he's one of the
Speaker 2: he's one.
Speaker 1: Of the midfield. Yeah, pretty tall midfielder, and yeah's it's
Speaker 1: a tough midfield to kind of crack into. So he's
Speaker 1: he's definitely had to do his time in the VFL.
Speaker 1: But over the weekend played really well and I think
Speaker 1: showed different signs of yea his capabilities and what he
Speaker 1: can bring to the table. So yeah, definitely look out
Speaker 1: for him as one of those that's going to be
Speaker 1: hopefully in our future playing games. And you know, at
Speaker 1: the club long time.
Speaker 2: Speaking of tall, I saw you rubbed the top of
Speaker 2: Darcy Cameron's head and I was like, jeez, you're you're.
Speaker 3: A lot taller than him. I was like, you are big.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Docy Cameron's probably three or four or two or
Speaker 1: three interest sort of me.
Speaker 3: At least wild. I was like, this is free. Who's
Speaker 3: this free?
Speaker 1: Big tree.
Speaker 3: Ruffled him on their head. Good on your champion, Good
Speaker 3: on your little fellow.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, this guy's anyway, let's
Speaker 2: jump into some like intricacies about the game. I did
Speaker 2: want to jump into Razor Ray's last game. We love Razor.
Speaker 2: We had Razor on the pod, one of the all
Speaker 2: time pods that we've done. Spoke with such eloquence and
Speaker 2: articulation that it annoyed me that I was agreeing with an.
Speaker 3: Umpire as much as I did.
Speaker 2: It was just like when in Loaded, Locked and Loaded
Speaker 2: to be like, why don't you just the one where
Speaker 2: it was like, why don't you just umpire like the
Speaker 2: Grand Final every week? And he broke it down the
Speaker 2: reason as to why I'm an idiot, and I was like,
Speaker 2: a son of a bitch.
Speaker 1: But if you haven't if you haven't heard that one,
Speaker 1: look it up on the just you know, look it
Speaker 1: up on the search bar. And he speaks really well.
Speaker 1: And I think you'll leave that being more understanding of
Speaker 1: what umpires have to go through and why they do
Speaker 1: what they do. Very very interesting chat that I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people can learn from.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I hope he stays in umpiring in some
Speaker 2: facet because he's definitely in it for one hundred percent
Speaker 2: of the right reasons and wants the game to flourish
Speaker 2: and all of that stuff.
Speaker 1: So, you know, I want to see as a role
Speaker 1: for Razor Ray. I'm gonna put this out there to
Speaker 1: the public right now. In the NFL, they have an
Speaker 1: ex umpire or an ex referee that anytime there's a
Speaker 1: questionable call or something that happens that's controversial, they go
Speaker 1: to him say what's the facts, you know, what's the
Speaker 1: ruling around us, what's going on? And that person just
Speaker 1: gives it to him straight says this is the rule,
Speaker 1: this is where it's at. This is the code ballbon
Speaker 1: I say, go to Channel seven. Razorray be hired by them.
Speaker 1: So anytime there's a questionable thing with the umpire, sorry,
Speaker 1: the commentators aren't really sure what's going on, or maybe
Speaker 1: it's a bit of a question mark. He goes, here's
Speaker 1: the facts, bang, bang bang, this should be called this way. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think he'd be incredible for that position.
Speaker 3: It's a no brainer.
Speaker 2: And I but I figure it's so obvious to have
Speaker 2: that person as a role that they mustn't be doing
Speaker 2: it for a reason because at the moment the commentators
Speaker 2: just guess the public is none the wiser, and it
Speaker 2: leaves a negative opinion on some of these calls that
Speaker 2: were correct but.
Speaker 1: Still opinionated there. Yeah, so like Ray could go and
Speaker 1: do that Channel seven stuff and he could say, yeap,
Speaker 1: this is the way it should be a judicated. Then
Speaker 1: it's it's quite different on the field. So it's a
Speaker 1: lot of responsibility to put your name out there and say, Okay,
Speaker 1: I might be wrong, why I'm speaking on it, and
Speaker 1: just know that the game sometimes is not going to
Speaker 1: follow the rules or as might be swayed one way
Speaker 1: because of an umpire's opinion on the day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's just educating everyone. But to the rest of
Speaker 2: stuff anyway, No, we got to get into the Razor Ray.
Speaker 3: Razorra retired.
Speaker 2: Amazing career, would have you know, umpired a million games,
Speaker 2: done all the Grand Finals. He's done everything there is
Speaker 2: to do. Good made of yours moments shared pregame or anything.
Speaker 2: Did you talk to the big fella.
Speaker 1: Pregame post game? Yeah, Like it was cool to kind
Speaker 1: of see him and I rocked up. I didn't know
Speaker 1: he was actually umpiring. On the day you go in,
Speaker 1: they've got like a sheet on the wall next to
Speaker 1: the schedule and says like who's umpiring? You know the
Speaker 1: four major umpires or however many there is, and Razors
Speaker 1: on there. And I was like, oh wow, like this
Speaker 1: this might be his last game. He'll over umpire. It's
Speaker 1: kind of cool to be involved in that because he's
Speaker 1: such an icon of the sport. I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: lover hate him. You know who he is, and he's
Speaker 1: been able to copt criticism and everything else and be
Speaker 1: a face of umpiring for a long time. So yeah,
Speaker 1: going out there, you know, I was just kind of
Speaker 1: like had a big smile on my face like he
Speaker 1: always does, you know, and just said, all the best, man,
Speaker 1: what an incredible journey, and I'm really excited about the
Speaker 1: next chapter and stuff like that. And then after, you know,
Speaker 1: you just say congratulations, and it's great to see everyone chair,
Speaker 1: you know, cheer him off, and there's a few boos
Speaker 1: in the crowd. I know that frustrating, So I should
Speaker 1: be my clanger, to be honest.
Speaker 2: I saw him having some words as he was leaving
Speaker 2: with his with his fans, yeah, and he was going
Speaker 2: back and forth to someone in the crowd. It's like
Speaker 2: you have to give them the benefit of the doubt
Speaker 2: that they didn't know that it was his last game
Speaker 2: or like even though he just walked through a guard
Speaker 2: of honor. But at the same time who gives a
Speaker 2: shit like I don't abuse people as they come from
Speaker 2: the ground.
Speaker 3: Doesn't make any sick.
Speaker 1: But he's given so much to the game cops, so
Speaker 1: much criticism and everything else, and he's still done it
Speaker 1: with a smile. And I don't think there's many people
Speaker 1: I could do what he's done. So I think you
Speaker 1: have to give credit to a person like that, a
Speaker 1: person that's dedicated a huge chunk of his life to
Speaker 1: try and make the game better. And you know, it
Speaker 1: was great to see both teams give him the respect
Speaker 1: and you know, clap them off. And I asked him,
Speaker 1: I said, do you want to be chaired off? It
Speaker 1: just looks at me and he goes, no freaking chance,
Speaker 1: I was. I had to ask. You know, you just
Speaker 1: never know.
Speaker 2: Right you your life, you and gone would have been funny.
Speaker 1: Thing is so Ray. I can tell the story now
Speaker 1: he's retired. So Ray back in the U S I
Speaker 1: f L. You know, there was this kind of celebration
Speaker 1: after it, you know, and I was like, right, job,
Speaker 1: all shoulders, mate, I had a few beers. So there's
Speaker 1: a photo of me and raise full on my shoulders
Speaker 1: and raise all my shoulds. I gonna find this all
Speaker 1: my shoulders. He's like, yeah, just go nuts. It was
Speaker 1: so funny, man. But he's just an absolute character, an
Speaker 1: absolute legend of the game. And yeah, I'm excited for
Speaker 1: him to hopefully stay involved in some capacity.
Speaker 2: It reminds me of one of those cartoons where they
Speaker 2: stack each other up, the two short blokes and they
Speaker 2: put the trench coat over the top. It's it's never
Speaker 2: been as tall, but yes, that's awesome. Congratulations raised a great,
Speaker 2: great career, amazing career. And I always think that, like,
Speaker 2: compared to the NRL's officials, like afl umpires remember everyone's
Speaker 2: first name in the entire league and give them the
Speaker 2: respect by calling them by their first name at all times,
Speaker 2: whereas like, yeah, the NRL, it's like you only speak
Speaker 2: to the captain and you don't even really say their names.
Speaker 3: It's quite wild, but it's very impressive.
Speaker 2: It's like he could be a barista in the future
Speaker 2: because he'd remember everyone's names and orders.
Speaker 3: Coming back in, let's.
Speaker 1: Go into mortgages spare time.
Speaker 2: So you kind of glossed over the lightning delay, but
Speaker 2: you had a lightning delay in your game, Yeah, what
Speaker 2: was how did you know what was coming during the
Speaker 2: game like it was getting pretty ominously.
Speaker 3: You could hear it through the broadcast.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it was. It kind of like started spinning
Speaker 1: in like the fourth quarter, and you go, okay, and
Speaker 1: then that at one point there was this big lightning
Speaker 1: strike that kind of like lit up the sky. And
Speaker 1: then you know with lightning, as soon as you see
Speaker 1: the lightning, you kind of count. I think it's like
Speaker 1: you count the seconds after to figure out how far
Speaker 1: it is from you. Yeah, and it's maybe like one seconds,
Speaker 1: like you know, five miles or something like that. So
Speaker 1: you know, I saw the lightning. There was like lightning, bang, thunder,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, that's pretty close. I was
Speaker 1: like this I didn't expect, so I kind of in
Speaker 1: that moment you saw it and you sitting there, I
Speaker 1: was talking to one of the players something. I was
Speaker 1: just like, oh, dude, like don't tell me we're going
Speaker 1: to get a rain delay or like the game's going
Speaker 1: to be suspended. We have to do this again like
Speaker 1: another week or whatever. You don't know the rulings around it,
Speaker 1: but I was just like okay. And then like you know, you,
Speaker 1: I came off and it's maybe like ten minutes later
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I guess we'll play through it, you know.
Speaker 1: And then I'm sitting on the bench and one of
Speaker 1: the AFL kind of official officials and stuff kind of
Speaker 1: comes over and has a few words with flying It
Speaker 1: kind of looks at me and looks at the rest
Speaker 1: of all right, cool, we're gonna have to go in,
Speaker 1: go into the sheds. And I was like, there's like
Speaker 1: nine and a half minutes left the game at that
Speaker 1: point was you know, pretty well done and dusted. You
Speaker 1: don't ast say yeah, and you got to go in.
Speaker 1: And we waited for the forty five minutes sitting there
Speaker 1: and just going. The worst bit was like the food
Speaker 1: was already down there for posts. See you're smelling KFC,
Speaker 1: you know, you just sitting there. You smell the nuggets,
Speaker 1: you smell the chicken wrap. You're looking forward to that,
Speaker 1: you know. You know, you know there's beers in that cooler.
Speaker 1: You know there's beers in the ASKI and you're sitting
Speaker 1: there looking at it, going we've got nine and a
Speaker 1: half minutes left, boys, let's smash through this and we
Speaker 1: can enjoy the off season, all right. So yeah, you
Speaker 1: get back up and I think we had like five
Speaker 1: minutes to warm up. It's absurd, So we like such
Speaker 1: a straight back out, you know, and then start playing
Speaker 1: right away and fear.
Speaker 3: That you could do a soft tissue or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like I've had a bit of like
Speaker 1: hamsterring awareness over the week and stuff like that. So
Speaker 1: I was on the bench to start off, and like
Speaker 1: I did a few extra runs and what not, just
Speaker 1: to make sure that I kind of felt felt good
Speaker 1: and didn't want to ping hamstring in the last nine
Speaker 1: minutes of the season. So yeah, it was one of
Speaker 1: those things. Yeah, it was. I felt like it was
Speaker 1: quite rushed, but understandable given a Friday night game. Families
Speaker 1: want to go home and stuff like that. But credit
Speaker 1: to the fans and everything else. They stayed towards the end,
Speaker 1: and it's great to see how many people were there
Speaker 1: even after the you know, the hour delay or if
Speaker 1: it was to stick around for the end of the season.
Speaker 1: It was pretty cool. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I guess as a Carlton, as a Collingwood fan,
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, we got fifty points up. Last game
Speaker 2: of the year, Like women as I stick it out.
Speaker 2: I think everyone probably wants to know last game of
Speaker 2: your season were you planning beers. Are you thinking this
Speaker 2: has pushed the plans back? What's the postgame salies?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like we were still a chance for
Speaker 1: you know, that last part of the season. But I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: you finished the game, you go okay, chances that Carlton
Speaker 1: loses by one hundred and fifty is probably not high. Plus,
Speaker 1: Like there is the bye week after, so they can
Speaker 1: do a beers. It's not irresponsible to many beers after
Speaker 1: the game, right, So that's all kind of like set
Speaker 1: up after the game to have a few in the
Speaker 1: locker room and be able to share some friends and
Speaker 1: family and things like that. So you know, the club
Speaker 1: had a bit of a celebration on Saturday along that,
Speaker 1: and yeah, that's just kind of how it plays out
Speaker 1: over the end of the season. You just kind of
Speaker 1: go okay, like this is all wrapped up, have a
Speaker 1: few drinks, you know, get to celebrate what was and
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's interesting because you look at a
Speaker 1: team and you look at the staff and admin, the
Speaker 1: physios and everything else. It's never the exact same every year,
Speaker 1: so you know there's going to be changes. It's going
Speaker 1: to be people that are in that room that won't
Speaker 1: be there the next year and won't be part of
Speaker 1: the next year's experience, And at some point in my
Speaker 1: career that's going to be me, and I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: one of those people that doesn't show up, you know,
Speaker 1: for the next next year and going to be uncontracted,
Speaker 1: you know. So I think the older that you get,
Speaker 1: the more you realize that there's a lot of people
Speaker 1: that come and go from the system, and you have
Speaker 1: to really respect the fact that, you know, it's just
Speaker 1: never going to be the same group of people every
Speaker 1: single year. There's going to be different faces, and you know,
Speaker 1: different people will come in and you get to have
Speaker 1: an incredible experience and share life with them and you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully make some lifelong friendships. But it's never the same
Speaker 1: people every year, which is a bit of a sad
Speaker 1: reality you have to understand at the end of the year.
Speaker 3: I never liked that last speech from the coach.
Speaker 2: Look around the room, boys, it'll never be the same, Like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, but don't say it. One or two blokes
Speaker 2: that might still be there next year. The Decos Brothers,
Speaker 2: don't know if you've heard of them, but pretty good
Speaker 2: eighty disposals between them, but Nick is the one that
Speaker 2: they're talking about Brownlow chance.
Speaker 3: Reckon he's a brown Law chance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm hoping. I'm very tough him and Bonce of Pelly,
Speaker 1: i'd say up there at the moment, come home. I'm
Speaker 1: strong too. Yeah, I mean i'd love obviously I'm super biased.
Speaker 1: You could say that one now it's early and then
Speaker 1: early four months since of his career.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like he will.
Speaker 1: I would love for him to get one now. So
Speaker 1: in the pressure for him to get ones off, you's
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about the rest of his career.
Speaker 3: I feel like if he gets one now, he's going
Speaker 3: to get like six of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well that's a possibility too, of course. But you know,
Speaker 1: whenever he goes through a whole season and doesn't miss
Speaker 1: a game, you know, I think that's one of the
Speaker 1: biggest things. If you have an injury or something like that,
Speaker 1: you know, I obviously hurts your Brownlow chances. So for
Speaker 1: him to have a whole season where he was healthy,
Speaker 1: I think it's a good chance for him to win
Speaker 1: a Brownlow. You look at most of the games, he's
Speaker 1: definitely best on ground for a fair chunk of them, so.
Speaker 3: We would have won the last one if you didn't
Speaker 3: get injured for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, there's like three games you messing he would
Speaker 1: have won the Brown there. So hopefully this year he
Speaker 1: can win that and get to celebrate that. WHI would
Speaker 1: be an awesome accomplishment in his life.
Speaker 3: So what happens now?
Speaker 2: We will do another podcast where we talk about the
Speaker 2: future and good questions all of that stuff. But logistically,
Speaker 2: what's what happens now? So exit meetings mad Monday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exit meetings this morning and then going to a
Speaker 1: wacky Wednesday is what we're doing.
Speaker 3: So exit meetings just happened so quick.
Speaker 1: I do well. I think like they kind of prep
Speaker 1: it in the background, the docks and the physios and
Speaker 1: the high performance stuff and stuff like that. You know,
Speaker 1: they have to kind of be prepared so you can't
Speaker 1: just like smash that all into two days and expect
Speaker 1: you to be able to have all the programs ready.
Speaker 1: So there is I guess a bit of foresight in
Speaker 1: that sense. You go in there, you talk to the coach,
Speaker 1: you talk to the doctors and stuff. You know, go
Speaker 1: get scans. I've had probably four MRIs in the last
Speaker 1: week or two just to make sure everything's all good
Speaker 1: and there's no issues. And if you need to get injections,
Speaker 1: get injections. You figure out your kind of recovery plan
Speaker 1: if you need that. You look at kind of your
Speaker 1: conditioning plan over the off season, your strength plan. There's
Speaker 1: so many things you put into place because you know
Speaker 1: you probably won't be back for me, like I won't
Speaker 1: be back for almost two months. Yeah, so I'm going, okay,
Speaker 1: if that's scenario, I need to have everything figured out
Speaker 1: for the next two months scheduled properly to know when
Speaker 1: if I leave. I don't need to have the club
Speaker 1: physically there for me to do something.
Speaker 3: You have to do conditioning in the States, Oh of course.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to go back to state Wide and
Speaker 3: go for a jog and hit the gym and stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and go to the gym every single day pretty much,
Speaker 1: and then go go run every other day.
Speaker 3: Wash it down.
Speaker 1: Do you think we just go on holiday just drink
Speaker 1: piss for two weeks or two months?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, still professional athletes, If you did that, you would
Speaker 1: come back so out of shape. There's no chance you'd
Speaker 1: ever get a game.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know.
Speaker 1: We can't be like everyone else. You just go you
Speaker 1: see to put a few back.
Speaker 2: We have Ken Monster come through the student. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: eats like bloody, what's the hungry jacks, big burger.
Speaker 3: The whopper. He just puts them away like it's different.
Speaker 2: I reckon the big boys over at the NRL. They
Speaker 2: get to put on a bit of mass.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they put on a bit more mass. I think
Speaker 1: we try to run it off.
Speaker 3: We need the protein.
Speaker 1: We did.
Speaker 2: Last thing we talked about the fly, I spoke about
Speaker 2: how you'll just sit and you'll watch the finals and
Speaker 2: let it burn. And yeah, you're actually going to watch
Speaker 2: the finals, so you probably just skip that.
Speaker 1: Jeez. I don't know if I have access in Europe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm going to go over to Croatia for about seven days,
Speaker 1: do a bit of the sailing thing. Is your family then, yeah,
Speaker 1: the brothers are gonna come with me. So I'm going
Speaker 1: to do Croatia and then we go over to Milan
Speaker 1: or take a train up to Como, do that like
Speaker 1: Coma for a few days, and then my brothers are
Speaker 1: meeting me and the Dolomites in Italy. So we're going
Speaker 1: to do a bit of hiking and some high altitude
Speaker 1: training over there, which would be good. For about a
Speaker 1: week and then we'll finish up at October first and
Speaker 1: maybe at Barron Munich Stadium game.
Speaker 3: To do your conditioning well.
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll be doing a week of high before then,
Speaker 1: so I think I'll be able to work it off.
Speaker 1: And now I'll go back to Austin, go back to
Speaker 1: see the family, spends a quality time with them, obviously
Speaker 1: being gone from them for so long, and it'd be good.
Speaker 1: It'd be good. I'll spend most more time in Austin,
Speaker 1: Texas as my brother at his house, and you know,
Speaker 1: I've got a good kind of training regime there that
Speaker 1: I've done for over the last few years. So kind
Speaker 1: of do that and go to the u S I
Speaker 1: f L shout out to them, the brothers will play that,
Speaker 1: do the national tournament there, which would be good fun,
Speaker 1: and then just kind of support a f L international
Speaker 1: and try to build the game over there.
Speaker 3: His Raser doing his last round of international football.
Speaker 1: I was furious. I don't think he is, was the man, like,
Speaker 1: who's going to come? He's like, I don't know, man.
Speaker 1: I was like, it's not going to be the same
Speaker 1: without you.
Speaker 2: Celebrations that's good me and how horrow will probably head
Speaker 2: back to Rachie. Yeah, same time for a weekend or whatever.
Speaker 2: I went out, did the one thousand steps out of
Speaker 2: Dandy Ung's basically. Yeah, well we get we're both getting hiking.
Speaker 2: Get into it, jump into finals predictions before we wrap
Speaker 2: it up.
Speaker 1: U v.
Speaker 2: Geelong in Adelaide, Western Bulldogs v. Hawthorne at the MCG,
Speaker 2: Sydney v GWS it the SCG Brisbane Carlton at the Gabba.
Speaker 3: That kicks us all off. But who are you tipping?
Speaker 3: We'll pick the tips.
Speaker 2: And then we'll just pick who we think is winning
Speaker 2: the flag, and that's how we'll wrap it up.
Speaker 1: I've got Port versus John got to Port Adelaide. Incredible,
Speaker 1: incredible team. I think honestly Port Adelaide is going to
Speaker 1: win the whole thing. Yeah, and I would love to
Speaker 1: see it because they've been up there for so long. They've
Speaker 1: had their chances and they've just missed out or missed
Speaker 1: out by kick here and there, whoever it is. This year,
Speaker 1: they've got the momentum, they've got the team, they've got
Speaker 1: a home final, they've got everything that's kind of falling
Speaker 1: in place for him. If they can win this game
Speaker 1: against Graelong. It's tough not to pick them for the
Speaker 1: Grand Final winner.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they Yeah, they're going to get a home
Speaker 2: pre lim if they win this, and then good luck
Speaker 2: going over there and beating them.
Speaker 1: So I've got who do you have in that game? Port? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you go the Western Western Bulldogs versus Hawthorn. This is
Speaker 1: an interesting one because it's the two informed teams are
Speaker 1: not really been in finals over the last four or
Speaker 1: five years, so young lest first experience doing it, very
Speaker 1: hyped up, very motivated at the moment. Western Bulldogs experienced team,
Speaker 1: have players that kind of played in the Grand Final
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, and you'll rely on their kind of
Speaker 1: wealth of knowledge through this little period. At the MCG
Speaker 1: talked about that with the Bulldogs being a home game
Speaker 1: for them, interesting little choice. I'm going to go, oh jeez,
Speaker 1: it sounds crazy to say Hawthorn.
Speaker 3: Yeah, after all you just said all of that stuff.
Speaker 1: I think I just love the way they're playing right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so good.
Speaker 2: They're so like they're undeniable at the moment. It'd be
Speaker 2: interesting to see if they can just have them like
Speaker 2: the belief that, like why not us, we can win this?
Speaker 2: We can go all the way through and we can
Speaker 2: just win it. I think I'm going to go the
Speaker 2: Bulldogs just purely on half the stuff you said around,
Speaker 2: Like you've got ads Chi Law who's done it, You've
Speaker 2: got Bond who's done it. You've got Libo who's done
Speaker 2: it like experience, and then the youth coming in the
Speaker 2: forward line. Plus you got Lobb back who's like short
Speaker 2: up their defense. But yeah, the forward line, if you
Speaker 2: get only one of them has to kick off. We
Speaker 2: saw Sam Darcy have seven the other week and it's
Speaker 2: like you do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, Luke, Luke.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go Weston Bulldogs Sydney GWS. I on
Speaker 2: GWS s juicy, I love this one. I'm on GWS.
Speaker 2: If they can get Toby Bedford back and Brett Daniels
Speaker 2: back lock them in.
Speaker 1: Okay, but then Sydney's got a few backs too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I just like GWS is like in absolute form. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they lost to the Bulldogs, but it was without those
Speaker 2: two players who are super pivotal to how they play.
Speaker 2: But they're killing them in terms of form. They've been
Speaker 2: one of the most informed teams up there with Hawthorne.
Speaker 1: This is the thing if WS wins this game, grand
Speaker 1: final for sure, form like, yeah, has to be right
Speaker 1: because then they get the home final. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: from there they make the Grand Final.
Speaker 3: I'd say they play their home final SCG.
Speaker 1: Now it'd have to be in the suburbs of the Paddock.
Speaker 2: Oh, we don't want to they will they have time
Speaker 2: stamp this time stamped it.
Speaker 3: You said it again, three.
Speaker 2: Point fifty Monday afternoon.
Speaker 3: Twenty sixth of August.
Speaker 1: Ah, yeah, the stadium called do we even know ng
Speaker 1: G n G stadium? That's what they're going to play.
Speaker 1: Sorry about the calling that has charged.
Speaker 3: It's changed a few times. It was spotless. Ah, so yeah,
Speaker 3: are you going to.
Speaker 1: The showgrounds that's where they Yeah, you can get that out.
Speaker 2: Are you going just put a bleep just they know
Speaker 2: what it is?
Speaker 3: Sydney or GWS.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to Sydney in this game at the
Speaker 1: SEG purely home ground.
Speaker 3: But they've been the best team all year.
Speaker 1: They've been best team all year. They finished pretty strong.
Speaker 1: I've just got this feeling a week of just refreshment
Speaker 1: is going to do them wonders. And then they hit
Speaker 1: this kind of last chunk with confidence. Yeah, especially if
Speaker 1: they win this game, I don't see them not making
Speaker 1: the Grand Final. I say, whoever wins this game is
Speaker 1: making the Grand Final.
Speaker 2: They need to get some defense back up and running
Speaker 2: because if they're kicking it up there to Toby Green
Speaker 2: and Jesse Hogan, who's on absolute fire. Good luck Brisbane, Carlton, Brisbane.
Speaker 1: Sorry, Carlton fans, I think you can understand where we're
Speaker 1: coming from. Six of the last nine, you've lost the three,
Speaker 1: you've only won bottom three teams. Let's be realistic. Momentum
Speaker 1: is probably not on your side.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you if they kick eleven goals twenty one again,
Speaker 2: it's anyone's game because you can't be kicking that.
Speaker 1: Not the away game. I feel like Carlton, Look, I
Speaker 1: think the fans are in the same boat. They're going Look,
Speaker 1: obviously we're in the eight, we're open for the best,
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't say the confidence is too high. Who
Speaker 1: do you have in the Grand Final? Then?
Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously you go on Brisbane this one. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And then I think Port GWS, which on paper doesn't
Speaker 2: sound very advertising.
Speaker 1: That sounds like probably the worst situation the AFL could
Speaker 1: have asked for. Out of all those eight teams as
Speaker 1: far as audience.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, see I think I look at Geelong,
Speaker 2: I haven't been that convinced by them all year. Hawthorne
Speaker 2: would love to see it, but also I'm happy to
Speaker 2: see that it's before their time. They had a big
Speaker 2: run of flags. You can you can have a you
Speaker 2: can have a build a year. Western Bulldogs would love
Speaker 2: to see it. Ads like love watching ads play footy.
Speaker 2: Sydney used to be a die hard Sydney fan wouldn't
Speaker 2: mind it either, to be honest.
Speaker 1: We'd love Brodie Grundy to get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, battle, It would be great to see Sydney get
Speaker 2: up there get the win.
Speaker 3: For Kenny really.
Speaker 2: But Brisbane they're a good team, couldn't get it done
Speaker 2: last year. They've had a run of finals. Imagine if
Speaker 2: they did it from outside the top four after all that.
Speaker 3: They've been through. So it'll be great, it'll be It's
Speaker 3: be interesting.
Speaker 2: I reckon it's a competitive top eight in the end,
Speaker 2: because I didn't think we're going to settle there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think probably the two weakest teams on paper of
Speaker 2: Geelong and Carlton, and watch that come back to bite
Speaker 2: me because I love their baltimate great, just make it through.
Speaker 2: It's just what Geelong does.
Speaker 1: It's got the experience Tom it comes back. Who knows
Speaker 1: well to say Anyway, that's all we got for the year.
Speaker 1: That's it for the year. We've got one more coming.
Speaker 1: We got a fan question. We want to give back.
Speaker 1: We want to give back to the fans because this is,
Speaker 1: like I mean, this is what we do it, you know,
Speaker 1: entertain people and to have them involved, to be able
Speaker 1: to answer all the burning questions they've been thinking about
Speaker 1: all year and give a bit of a wrap up
Speaker 1: to the whole season. It's going to be fun next
Speaker 1: week coming up.
Speaker 3: I love questions, they're the best.
Speaker 1: They sometimes it get a bit loose, to get a
Speaker 1: bit sideways. Get more fans of that big fans. But
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