WEBVTT - Lightning Stikes 🌩️ Water Bottles 🙅 Razor's Goodbye 👋

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, legends, welcome back to The Mason Cox Show. Big

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<v Speaker 1>episode today, Freo fans, we feel for you. A tough

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<v Speaker 1>way to end the season at Carlton. Congratulations. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not really too sure. We're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that water bottle that was thrown against the Onpire. Seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>what is going on there. We're going to break that down. Lastly,

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<v Speaker 1>some retirees. Razor Ray the legend himself finishes up Dusty Martin,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the goats of the game. He's done. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna break that down much much more so. Settle

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<v Speaker 1>in because we're starting now. All right, Legends, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>straight into this. There's a big, big episode coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>Without further ado, Welcome Breton car.

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<v Speaker 2>Get a ice speak. Coming to the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Sad times, but yeah I did. There was a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a roller coaster on Sunday because the games were

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<v Speaker 2>all important. The other the other couple of days they

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<v Speaker 2>would just big blowouts to the finals teams. But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>giving my cl this week. I'm jumping straight into it

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm giving it. I'm giving it to the Free

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<v Speaker 2>Men football because what the hell Saint Kilda come out

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<v Speaker 2>and did exactly what they had to do, which was

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<v Speaker 2>no easy feit that the run over the top of Carlton,

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<v Speaker 2>and they did it in the dying seconds with Jack

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<v Speaker 2>Higgins snapping it across his body. Big celebrations scenes all

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<v Speaker 2>the Carlton fans. I kept showing them crying in the

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<v Speaker 2>in the stands, heads down.

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<v Speaker 1>The finals were done.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like a twenty twenty two flashback where you

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<v Speaker 2>broke their hearts and all over again. They were having

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<v Speaker 2>all those traumatic experiences because alls that had to happen

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<v Speaker 2>for Carlton to get knocked out of the finals was

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<v Speaker 2>we go over to Perth and we watched Freo win

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<v Speaker 2>a home game against Port. Now we know Port's good.

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<v Speaker 2>We get around ken Hinckley. They're now second on the

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<v Speaker 2>ladder after the win. But come on, it was you know,

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<v Speaker 2>literally season on the line. Your whole year you've done.

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<v Speaker 2>You started back before Christmas, all the hard sessions, you

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<v Speaker 2>go away, you come back, you do all more hard

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<v Speaker 2>sessions in the sun, the heat, Perth heat forty five

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<v Speaker 2>degree days, extras.

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<v Speaker 3>You're doing your two k time trials.

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<v Speaker 2>You're skinnies, you're missing family and friends and sacrificing weekends.

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<v Speaker 2>No drinking, you're eating right, you're doing it all and

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<v Speaker 2>then you come up and you dish up that putridge.

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<v Speaker 3>That was that football game.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I sent producer Harrow on the decks. I sent them

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<v Speaker 2>a message saying Rotchies reserves. They would have rocked up

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<v Speaker 2>and they at least would have had some ticker mace

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<v Speaker 2>because what they put out there. And I can look

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<v Speaker 2>down here and every Fremantle fan on the planet Earth

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<v Speaker 2>would be agreeing right now, nodding at the screen with

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<v Speaker 2>their headphones in because.

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<v Speaker 3>That was putrid. Like one, pick up the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Two you've got that many forwards in your team list

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<v Speaker 2>of Fords. Yeah, you got big Dick Tracy. He's out

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<v Speaker 2>at the moment and he's an important pillar, But you

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<v Speaker 2>got that many Fords. Collingwood would kill to have one

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<v Speaker 2>of those blokes up there, but come on, they got

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<v Speaker 2>forty of them up there.

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<v Speaker 3>Hit one of them, just hit one of them. Hit

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<v Speaker 3>a lead.

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<v Speaker 2>Move the ball quick so you can get some action

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<v Speaker 2>going because they just took so long and port was

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, meandering back into D fifty, clog out

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<v Speaker 2>of it and then they rebound out of there. Sarong

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<v Speaker 2>got tagged out of the game, first game in forty

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<v Speaker 2>years that he hasn't had over twenty disposals, probably not

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<v Speaker 2>the game for it. Uh. And the moment that Hayden

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<v Speaker 2>Young came off with his corked calf or whatever the

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<v Speaker 2>hell he had, it was done. It was game over.

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<v Speaker 2>And they just did so many stupid things, little fifty

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<v Speaker 2>metal penalties and like, so.

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<v Speaker 1>It's safe to say Fremantle Film of the Bag rather

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<v Speaker 1>than Port Adelaide won that game. They're having an absolute crack.

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<v Speaker 3>Very evident thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is like disgusting for me to say. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't say this because I don't play footy at any

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<v Speaker 2>level and it's terrible. But looking at the two midfields, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you look at Port and you go, there's some savage

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<v Speaker 2>blokes that just want to win games of footy out there.

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<v Speaker 3>They got butters, they got.

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<v Speaker 2>Horny frank Like, they get in there, they rip the

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<v Speaker 2>ball out and they charge their team forward and it

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<v Speaker 2>just Freo didn't have that, which was very disappointing.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>They're done, and I'm gonna this is probably a bit

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<v Speaker 2>for later, but they also cost themselves a draft pick slut.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about later. We'll get into that letter. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you're still very hot. You've you've come off

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<v Speaker 1>the top with absolute steam coming out of your ears.

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<v Speaker 3>Hot because we give it a bit of energy that

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<v Speaker 3>it deserves.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm just angry on behalf of the Frio fans

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<v Speaker 2>because that was past tackle. You know, you know they

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<v Speaker 2>put up the little they put up the Fox Footy

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<v Speaker 2>precious stats.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what that is, but they were in

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<v Speaker 3>the poor.

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<v Speaker 2>Calculator is excellent one end and then there's free down

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<v Speaker 2>the other end in the poll on the red. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you think if the whole season's on the line,

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<v Speaker 2>you probably want.

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<v Speaker 3>To be up in the green.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it makes sense anyway. Wow, Well, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>continue the grilling and my clanger of the week. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>there's a bit of media you could say around this now.

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<v Speaker 1>In the Carlton versus Saint Kill the game, there was

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a disgusting act as you could say,

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<v Speaker 1>that was done. A water bottle that was thrown at

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<v Speaker 1>a goal umpire, just absolutely ridiculous, weak, just weakest pissed,

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<v Speaker 1>you could say. Then they're going through the details now

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<v Speaker 1>trying to find the person on cameras and stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>did it. And try to ban them or whatever. The

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the retro band's going to be for that.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's just it's terrible as that from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's just like, that's just like you're a terrible

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<v Speaker 1>human to be doing that stuff. Like these people are

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<v Speaker 1>not getting paid the big money to be there. They

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely love football. They take all the criticism everything on board.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're going to do that to someone Like if

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<v Speaker 1>it was a player, it be just as bad, don't

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<v Speaker 1>get me wrong, but I'd feel like there'd be a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more uproar around it. Yeah, but because it's an

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<v Speaker 1>ompire's as much. But it I mean, the guy was

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<v Speaker 1>bleeding on the back of his head. They had to

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<v Speaker 1>take him off and put them essentially put them on

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<v Speaker 1>ice for the rest of the game. And for something

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<v Speaker 1>that is so controllable, like you would think even the

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<v Speaker 1>people around him after they him or her whoever did it,

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<v Speaker 1>would be sitting there going, mate, what are you doing? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they'd be pointing them out, saying, get that fella

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<v Speaker 1>or girl out of this joint. That's not acceptable. And

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<v Speaker 1>you hold people to a higher standard, you really do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just think that was something over the weekend

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<v Speaker 1>you saw and just said, man, that is just that's

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<v Speaker 1>not what being a footy fans about.

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<v Speaker 2>We've talked about players overstepping the mark at times this

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<v Speaker 2>year when you know you might boo, but it brings

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<v Speaker 2>out the passion in you, and there's definitely a line

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<v Speaker 2>that you can cross, and I think throwing a bottle

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<v Speaker 2>at someone like you should be able to go anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>without being assaulted, but you should be able to go

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<v Speaker 2>to your workplace do your job without fear of being

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<v Speaker 2>assaulted by someone, especially with well, it's a weapon, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a projectile. So hopefully they tuck him down and there's

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<v Speaker 2>no way that they're not tracking down this.

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<v Speaker 1>Person therest believe there are that many cameras and more. Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>if they haven't caught the person yet, I'm blown away.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got tickets of who's in what seats, you can

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<v Speaker 1>easily email them back. You know, everyone's got their email

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<v Speaker 1>attached to it. You've got all the camera angles, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got the people sitting around them, Like, I'm amazed they

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<v Speaker 1>haven't had the person ousted yet. It's incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>They'll have face scanning technology, they'll be they'll get them

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<v Speaker 2>and it wouldn't surprise me if it's one of those

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<v Speaker 2>self report things where in the light of day you

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<v Speaker 2>come out and you go, I've made a big mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you do band for life?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you probably have to because life for sure. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't like you can back someone in. Obviously everyone

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<v Speaker 2>gets a chance to be rehabilitated, but you probably lost

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<v Speaker 2>your privilege to be able to go and enjoy the

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<v Speaker 2>sport that other people are just there trying to enjoy.

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<v Speaker 2>We all do love the passion and is what makes

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<v Speaker 2>the sport what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>But you can't cross the line.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's just beyond stepping over over the line. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just want to that's my Clanier of the week because

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<v Speaker 1>it's unacceptable if I'm being honest with you. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand umpires. You can get passionate about calls they're

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<v Speaker 1>making things like that, but there's definitely a line there

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<v Speaker 1>of letting them be able to go to their job

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<v Speaker 1>do their job without being assaulted by people in the

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<v Speaker 1>crowd like those absurd to think that actually happened. So

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<v Speaker 1>cleaniar to you. But let's get to the results now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into the next stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Ridiculous and we like the results this week because off

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<v Speaker 2>the top Melbourne they went down to the mighty Magpies

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<v Speaker 2>fifty seven and one oh three. That's a big win

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<v Speaker 2>to finish off the season for Collingwood. Hawthorne footy club.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. Now I saw a couple of players

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<v Speaker 2>out there from the Hawthorn team getting stuck into the

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<v Speaker 2>North team. And it's pretty easy when you can say

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<v Speaker 2>we were tipped to be down the bottom with yours

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<v Speaker 2>and look where we.

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<v Speaker 1>Are seventy points.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to be as a North fan where you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're very conscious about sticking the boots in.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get that.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get into that later. Geelong got the job done

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<v Speaker 2>over West Coast. They're happy to knockoff. I reckon for

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<v Speaker 2>the year. It would be very annoying to fly all

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<v Speaker 2>the way over here, all the way down to Geelong,

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<v Speaker 2>then all the way back. So I feel a bit

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<v Speaker 2>sorry for the West Coast Eagles players. So have a

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<v Speaker 2>good break, recharge, go again, Richmond, knockoff you're done to

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<v Speaker 2>big retirees. At the end of that, we saw a dusty,

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<v Speaker 2>teary eyed Dustin Martin coming from the field.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is grimes different to see.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved seeing that a bit of the human side

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<v Speaker 2>come out and a bit of vulnerability as he walked

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<v Speaker 2>off the mcg.

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<v Speaker 1>Scorecast, Like you know, obviously demos over there coaching and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>There would have been people within that program that he

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<v Speaker 1>was connected with through his time at Richmond, so I

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<v Speaker 1>think emotional for him leaving Richmond, but also having those

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<v Speaker 1>kind of people like that were at the game that

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<v Speaker 1>he was competing the team was competing against, still be

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<v Speaker 1>involved as would have been a lot and.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw another goodbye. Dyson Hepple got to say his

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<v Speaker 2>goodbye to all the loyal Brisbane Lions fans at the Gabba.

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<v Speaker 3>That was good to see.

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<v Speaker 2>Got chaired off eighty seven points to sixty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>Real stinker. By the looks of the scoreboard.

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<v Speaker 2>Brisbane could have absolutely dominated, but just decided to kick goals.

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<v Speaker 2>They just wanted to do it one point at a time,

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<v Speaker 2>which was great for all the spectators. Sydney v Adelaide,

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<v Speaker 2>Sydney getting the points there, you know Adelaide so so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>very dangerous at times.

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<v Speaker 1>Had a few upsets Adelaide. They upset a few people

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<v Speaker 1>along the way.

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<v Speaker 2>And then a couple of stinkers along the way. So

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<v Speaker 2>Western Bulldogs GWS starting off the Super Sunday and that

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<v Speaker 2>was a wild game out of Ballarat windsor plenty. Western

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<v Speaker 2>Bulldogs got the job done, which locked them into finals

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<v Speaker 2>because we probably didn't you know, talk about that enough

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<v Speaker 2>that if they had lost that game, they were a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to miss the whole thing. So pretty well, but

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<v Speaker 2>they got the job done over GWS Carlton.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, Wow, Wow, we we're going to dive into.

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<v Speaker 2>Events losing to Saint Kilda. I don't know how you

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<v Speaker 2>feel about making finals after a loss.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it was a real deprestating and exciting day.

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<v Speaker 1>Or there's a lot of emotions on Sunday as a

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<v Speaker 1>Carlton fan. If you're out.

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<v Speaker 3>And then free, oh my god, that's the worst.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, let's jump straight into the big talking points, because

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to just we need to go back,

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<v Speaker 2>We need to acknowledge this, We need to do a

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<v Speaker 2>mini reflect on it, because it wasn't us to be fair.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of people in the media, probably too

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<v Speaker 2>many people, and a lot of them don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>to say, so they just throw ship. Now this is coding.

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<v Speaker 1>Educated podcasters obviously would never do such a thing. Brandon.

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<v Speaker 2>See, well, if you're going to sling ship like I

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<v Speaker 2>sling shit at FREEO at the start of the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Do it in the last game so they can't come

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<v Speaker 2>out next week and win and make you look like

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<v Speaker 2>an idiot exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're done timing.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got I've got six months of being right, So

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<v Speaker 2>that's how you do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Improve me wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>That's got to really anyway, everyone came out after three

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<v Speaker 2>coaches in particular, we got Chris Fagan, Kenny Hinckley and

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<v Speaker 2>we got bever Luke Beveridge. They were mid season, they

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<v Speaker 2>were all sacked. Everyone sacked him. You can't go on

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<v Speaker 2>after that last You can't go on after that last. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it turns out every team sucked this year. They all

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<v Speaker 2>had patches. Even Sydney Swans that were so far ahead

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<v Speaker 2>had a terrible patch, a horrific patch. So that's whirred

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<v Speaker 2>those three coaches.

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<v Speaker 1>They're in finals, aren't they.

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<v Speaker 2>With a chance home final? But they sacked him midyear.

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<v Speaker 2>His fans were booing him off the field. They had

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<v Speaker 2>the sign as you entered Adelaide. I don't even know

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<v Speaker 2>if that was this year, because they want to sack

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<v Speaker 2>him every year. Talk about character building, resilience.

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<v Speaker 1>Resilience, yes, resilience under pressure. Ken Henkley is your man.

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<v Speaker 1>Write a book, So write an absolute book. Do some talks,

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<v Speaker 1>because you could you hitimize it.

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<v Speaker 2>He could go on and he could be the CEO

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<v Speaker 2>of a Forbes Top one hundred whatever company on the

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<v Speaker 2>planet Earth.

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<v Speaker 3>He deals with pressure that well, it's sane.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, we were always going to give our Ken Henley

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<v Speaker 1>love every.

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<v Speaker 2>Week he's he's up the tippy top because then you

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<v Speaker 2>have Bevo and Fags who you know, Fags Brisbane started

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<v Speaker 2>slow rolled back into it. They're still probably one of

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<v Speaker 2>the more informed teams in the camp. Start with the

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<v Speaker 2>big home final up there against Carlton and then Bev

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<v Speaker 2>well we know that, we know that he likes to

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<v Speaker 2>finish and have a run at the flag from the

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<v Speaker 2>bottom four of the eighth. It's just where he's comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>doing it from. Who needs the double chance when you

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<v Speaker 2>can just you know, defy the odds. So he's back

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<v Speaker 2>in finals as well, he's taken him to a couple,

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<v Speaker 2>he's won them a flag.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone needs to just chill with.

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<v Speaker 2>Just we give some space where we need a little

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<v Speaker 2>next year. The media like everyone I say, we but

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<v Speaker 2>are we we sit down, We reflect we don't go

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<v Speaker 2>as hard week.

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<v Speaker 1>To week because give it a feedback to the media, brod.

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<v Speaker 3>We have looked stupid at times.

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<v Speaker 2>Old of course not you were that you were overly

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<v Speaker 2>steadfast on Gold Coast.

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<v Speaker 3>Put your hand up for that one. That's that's on you.

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<v Speaker 2>But gws, I'm still here and I must be just

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<v Speaker 2>correct all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, question you halfway through that you had a little

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<v Speaker 1>spot there.

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<v Speaker 3>You're going, oh much off the bad one. There's one

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<v Speaker 3>game off. I was one game off.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about four weeks. I'd say.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we go into the North Melbourne situation, because this

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<v Speaker 2>is the whole you've missed them. Stats were kicking them

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<v Speaker 2>while they're down. To kick them while they're down, they've

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<v Speaker 2>got to be down, but they're never up. North is

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<v Speaker 2>never up, so we can't kick them. Why they're up.

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<v Speaker 2>They've been down for five seasons in a row. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're a North fan, are you putting up with this?

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<v Speaker 2>MAT's twenty twenty three wins, twenty twenty one four wins,

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<v Speaker 2>so they're on the way up. Building twenty twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>two wins. That's half as many wins twenty twenty three

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<v Speaker 2>to three wins. Twenty twenty four three wins, so they

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<v Speaker 2>actually went backwards in percentage this year. So they got

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<v Speaker 2>beaten worse more often this year than last.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's you say that. But then I think like

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<v Speaker 1>in the beginning of the year, North like we were like, oh, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>North is putting up some numbers, like putting teams to

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<v Speaker 1>the sword because it used to be like two three

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. North was like, I mean, you look at

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<v Speaker 1>their scores and stuff. It was probably like a sixty

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<v Speaker 1>seventy point win from other teams like on average, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know over the weekend they got smashed. But like

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning of the year, there's been a hope

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<v Speaker 1>for North, there was a bit of hope.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a lot of leeway you're giving to a club.

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<v Speaker 2>I did write it out that it was if you

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<v Speaker 2>combine all the points they got from all their wins

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<v Speaker 2>over the last five years, so you take their last

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<v Speaker 2>five years, you canbine all the wins.

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<v Speaker 3>They would have finished fifth this year on percentage.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifteen wins, you would be fifth.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifth with five years years over the winds, you can

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<v Speaker 2>buy them all up, and they missed the top four

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<v Speaker 2>on percentage.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeez, that's rough.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you sit there as a fan and you

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<v Speaker 2>just someone did something horrific?

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<v Speaker 1>Still fan that? Sorry? Yeah, North Melbourne fan. Credit to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Credit to you for sticking with them. You know it's

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<v Speaker 1>not easy. I'm sure it's tough over the last few years.

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<v Speaker 1>Every team has to go through this, right, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just credit to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know it's a disappointing point because everyone

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<v Speaker 2>says every team goes through it, but then you can

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<v Speaker 2>clearly identify a few teams that don't go through it,

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<v Speaker 2>like Sydney and Geelong, and you're like, they don't go

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<v Speaker 2>through it. But yeah, I get it because we've all

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<v Speaker 2>been there where it's like you've had a shitty week

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<v Speaker 2>at work and you just want to go home and

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<v Speaker 2>watch your team be good at foot.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to have some kind of hope, and all.

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<v Speaker 2>Through twenty twenty, all through the pandemic and then coming

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<v Speaker 2>out and still no good. But we can see the list,

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<v Speaker 2>the list should be getting better. So maybe it's a

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<v Speaker 2>mentals thing. Have a bit of a maybe a Bali

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<v Speaker 2>retreat by something over the off season and sparks some

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, some juice coming kind of helps.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, We'll move to the next thing. We've got, the

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<v Speaker 1>wild card round. There's been a lot of converse sation

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<v Speaker 1>around whether or not this should be something they implement

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<v Speaker 1>next year or further years. I mean, next year's probably

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<v Speaker 1>a bit soon, but there's a lot of people saying

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<v Speaker 1>it's a possibility. Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't tune out.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're listening to the podcast now and you've heard

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<v Speaker 2>every shock jock talk about this shitty topic, don't tune out,

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<v Speaker 2>don't switch podcast, stay with us, because we're gonna It's

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<v Speaker 2>just the counterpoint for me that everyone talks about it

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<v Speaker 2>promotes mediocrity. You know, the seasons made up of X

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<v Speaker 2>amount of games, and you've got to win those.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all.

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<v Speaker 2>You obviously have the counterpoints of when it was back

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<v Speaker 2>in the day early nineties, there wasn't as many finals,

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<v Speaker 2>like there wasn't as many finalists. They expanded, more teams,

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<v Speaker 2>more finals. They've expanded a couple times now once Tazzy

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<v Speaker 2>comes in, more teams, more finals would make the most sense,

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<v Speaker 2>or at least a chance to have more teams in there,

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<v Speaker 2>because if you're at the afl AFL house, you want

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<v Speaker 2>fans to have glimmers of hope, like you want your team,

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<v Speaker 2>even if they're finishing in the lower end of the

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<v Speaker 2>of the top eight or whatever, top ten, you want

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<v Speaker 2>them to experience finals. And if you're looking at North

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<v Speaker 2>and you're go on fight, you've gone years and years

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<v Speaker 2>without finals. One, why would anyone want a barrack for North?

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<v Speaker 2>How do they get new well or any team? But

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<v Speaker 2>how do they how do they get new followers? How

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<v Speaker 2>do they get new fans? If you've got to if

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<v Speaker 2>you have a kid and you're like, na, trust me North,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a great team.

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<v Speaker 1>Like how do you support? They have no choice?

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to be a great marketer to get your

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<v Speaker 2>kid to come across the North Melbourne. But like things

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<v Speaker 2>like that. But yeah, I just feel like one the

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<v Speaker 2>fixture isn't even in the first place. Now obviously, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that that's the biggest.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing to fix, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Biggest thing to fix. It's the easiest thing to manipulate

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of shape the top eight. If you look

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<v Speaker 2>at Carlton, Collingwood finished on this same amount of points,

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<v Speaker 2>the same amount of wins. Percentage was the difference seven

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<v Speaker 2>percent and Carleton makes the finals. They made a prelim

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<v Speaker 2>last year, so they should have skewed a heavier, a

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<v Speaker 2>harder fixture. But they got North twice, they got Richmond twice,

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<v Speaker 2>the two bottom teams, and then they got West Coast.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's five wins. They just go there, gift them

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<v Speaker 2>five wins, whereas Collingwood didn't get any double ups at

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom teams and they had the verse the top

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<v Speaker 2>teams twice. So like that's an easy way to manipulate it.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you talk about, oh, it's just promoting mediocrity,

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<v Speaker 2>if you look at that, Carlton's lost six of their

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<v Speaker 2>last nine games. The three wins that they had were

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<v Speaker 2>against North, Richmond and West Coast, and they're taken up

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<v Speaker 2>eighth slot after losing to Saints who aren't a top eighteen,

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<v Speaker 2>And you're like, oh, what's promoting mediocrity? Getting it done

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<v Speaker 2>early in the season and then absolutely like the ass

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<v Speaker 2>end falls out of it as you're coming home. All

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<v Speaker 2>the teams that have some momentum that finish ninth and

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<v Speaker 2>tenth have a little play in toil.

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<v Speaker 1>Almost. It's always tough to gauge if a team is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be good before the season, right, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you obviously look at kind of where teams fall the

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<v Speaker 1>year before and you say, like, here's a mathematical thing

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<v Speaker 1>of saying, like, you know, Sydney doesn't play the eighteen team,

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<v Speaker 1>calling twice.

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<v Speaker 3>A year twice this year one was going to be great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But there's also the thing of like calling us

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<v Speaker 1>play twice, calling us to play Carlton twice. So I

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<v Speaker 1>get that side of it, because there is money and

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<v Speaker 1>financials that go into that. With the AFL looks at

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<v Speaker 1>and says okay, with biggest following biggest kind of attendance.

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<v Speaker 1>Also biggest people are going to watch on TV, like

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<v Speaker 1>there's CBAS and all this kind of stuff with television

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<v Speaker 1>rights along those lines too, So you have to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to fit all these things in. So it's not

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<v Speaker 1>as clear cut as just saying first doesn't play eighteen twice, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>second doesn't play seventeen twice. There's a bit more that

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<v Speaker 1>goes into it, just because of the way the AFL,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, financially wants to try to make as much

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<v Speaker 1>money as possible. And I get that, but as a

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<v Speaker 1>Collingwood player, I can't say that, you know, we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been given unfortunate schedule because you look at Pertha traveling

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<v Speaker 1>every other week, you look at the Gold Coast and

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<v Speaker 1>I get that side of it, But going back to

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<v Speaker 1>Carlton and the six of the last nine they've lost

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<v Speaker 1>in the three they win, or essentially the bottom three teams,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you'd be as a Carlton fan going

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<v Speaker 1>I feel super confident going into finals. Baby, we lost

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<v Speaker 1>our last one and we thought we're out, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Freemantle fumbled it, and then we're back in and then

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<v Speaker 1>we've got a few injuries that will be sweet. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's many Carlton fans probably feeling that.

0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:36.680
<v Speaker 2>Because the counter counterpoint is Freo doesn't deserve a second

0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:37.720
<v Speaker 2>chance out at either.

0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Had a hard run at the very end of the

0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:42.400
<v Speaker 1>year too, though. Yeah. So yeah, it's it's an interesting one.

0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:44.880
<v Speaker 1>And this is I think that why the wild card

0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:47.600
<v Speaker 1>round keeps coming up is because you know, essentially from

0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Freyo was second on the ladder like four weeks ago. Yeah,

0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:52.200
<v Speaker 1>and then you look at it now they've fallen out

0:21:52.200 --> 0:21:55.480
<v Speaker 1>of the eight. So I think that whole situation of

0:21:55.520 --> 0:21:58.160
<v Speaker 1>two three right being so like two through really twelve

0:21:58.200 --> 0:22:01.080
<v Speaker 1>being so close, as many people go, oh man, like

0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:04.480
<v Speaker 1>AFL's probably gone sweet. We can engage the audience for

0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:08.000
<v Speaker 1>longer by putting another round in, right, Yeah, it might

0:22:08.040 --> 0:22:11.040
<v Speaker 1>be during the bye week. Yeah, you've got the bye week,

0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:14.040
<v Speaker 1>you put it in there. Does it probably disadvantage of

0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:15.800
<v Speaker 1>teams going in there because they don't have another break, Yes,

0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:17.720
<v Speaker 1>of course, but that's just part of the system. But

0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:20.960
<v Speaker 1>for them it's going, oh sweet, extra game, extra money,

0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:25.159
<v Speaker 1>extra viewership, keeps fans engaged for longer because they know

0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:28.520
<v Speaker 1>their team has a chance to make finals. There's all

0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:30.359
<v Speaker 1>these kind of benefits. The AFL looks at from a

0:22:30.400 --> 0:22:32.680
<v Speaker 1>financial standpoint, goes probably, yeah, okay, like if we can

0:22:32.720 --> 0:22:35.000
<v Speaker 1>do this and the players and the coaches and the

0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:38.119
<v Speaker 1>teams all ticket off, they'll probably do it. Yeah, it's silly.

0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:39.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean like we look at all the AFL decisions

0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:42.200
<v Speaker 1>and like you know, the AFL doesn't exist. They don't

0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:44.600
<v Speaker 1>make money. So if you're always going to assess something

0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:46.800
<v Speaker 1>like this that they know will make a financial impact,

0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:48.960
<v Speaker 1>they'll always assess it and probably are on the side

0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:49.399
<v Speaker 1>of doing it.

0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:51.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it does make sense. I feel like once it

0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:53.399
<v Speaker 2>Tassi comes in, it's a note brainer. You've got to

0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:55.720
<v Speaker 2>be doing it. Let's jump into the big winners because

0:22:55.720 --> 0:22:57.320
<v Speaker 2>we're getting hyped for finals.

0:22:57.400 --> 0:23:00.399
<v Speaker 3>I mean, well, what kind of hype there.

0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:05.000
<v Speaker 2>But the Bulldogs are Bulldogs, big winners over GWS got

0:23:05.040 --> 0:23:06.760
<v Speaker 2>them at the top of the big winners this week,

0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:09.399
<v Speaker 2>although GWS a lot of laid outs, a lot of

0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:14.160
<v Speaker 2>really important laid outs for them, so they'll hopefully get

0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:17.280
<v Speaker 2>those top backup to be more competitive for the first

0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:18.040
<v Speaker 2>week of finals.

0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:19.440
<v Speaker 3>But let's jump in Bulldogs.

0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:21.720
<v Speaker 1>Just talk about the wind, yeah mate, some of the

0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:23.879
<v Speaker 1>stuff I was watching over the weekend just kicking it

0:23:23.960 --> 0:23:26.600
<v Speaker 1>essentially out on the fall and just swinging and back

0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:29.760
<v Speaker 1>and going through. Yeah. Oh baler rat Fara. Don't get

0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:31.440
<v Speaker 1>me wrong. It's great to go to the country and play,

0:23:31.480 --> 0:23:34.000
<v Speaker 1>but you'd be hoping for better conditions than that.

0:23:34.240 --> 0:23:37.399
<v Speaker 2>Especially when the season is on the line, like for

0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:39.040
<v Speaker 2>the Bulldogs and you.

0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:41.879
<v Speaker 1>Know gv I top four. Yeah, looking at that.

0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:44.240
<v Speaker 2>Positions and all of that stuff. To have it out

0:23:44.240 --> 0:23:47.800
<v Speaker 2>at ballerrat, I thought that was hindsight. Obviously they can

0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:51.960
<v Speaker 2>never tell like where all this is going to fall.

0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:54.440
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it was a bit wild seeing blokes having

0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:56.080
<v Speaker 2>to There was a couple of old houses that you

0:23:56.080 --> 0:23:57.920
<v Speaker 2>can see in the background and you basically have to

0:23:58.000 --> 0:23:59.879
<v Speaker 2>kick it at the roof of the old house. On

0:23:59.920 --> 0:24:02.000
<v Speaker 2>the right for it to drift back through and get

0:24:02.000 --> 0:24:04.640
<v Speaker 2>blown through the goals. It was just wild to see

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:08.480
<v Speaker 2>because like Jamara had a shot kicking into the breeze

0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:11.320
<v Speaker 2>like thirty out dead in front and it went out

0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:13.720
<v Speaker 2>of bounds on the full. After he kicked it to

0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:17.480
<v Speaker 2>the left of goals, it drifted that far across the

0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:19.119
<v Speaker 2>entire face of the goals.

0:24:19.200 --> 0:24:21.199
<v Speaker 1>It just kind of looked at him was like, this

0:24:21.320 --> 0:24:24.280
<v Speaker 1>is ridiculous. I just rolled out to the next stay.

0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:27.560
<v Speaker 1>It just had this blank look of like, how in

0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:30.639
<v Speaker 1>the world am I playing in these conditions right now?

0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:33.280
<v Speaker 2>Jesse Hogan kicked one and it went dead straight and

0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:36.840
<v Speaker 2>he was like, wait on, that's meant to where's the

0:24:36.880 --> 0:24:40.840
<v Speaker 2>wind now? He must have found some pocket. But anyway, Balls,

0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:45.720
<v Speaker 2>massive win for them. It gives them a well final spot. Yeah,

0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:48.240
<v Speaker 2>I was going to say it gives them a final spot,

0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:51.600
<v Speaker 2>which is great, but now they're playing at the MCG

0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:56.160
<v Speaker 2>in a home final against Hawthorne when it's Hawthorne's home

0:24:56.200 --> 0:25:00.840
<v Speaker 2>ground and they're not playing at Marvel but who knows who?

0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:05.200
<v Speaker 3>Who knows? But anyway, let's jump into port.

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:08.560
<v Speaker 2>Massive win over Free are not only knocking Freo out

0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:11.920
<v Speaker 2>of finals but locking up top two for them, they

0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:15.520
<v Speaker 2>basically just had to not lose by five goals, so

0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:18.280
<v Speaker 2>they just the win was for a bit of momentum

0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:21.560
<v Speaker 2>and to just screw over Freer. But yeah, locks in

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:24.920
<v Speaker 2>a top two spot for Port huge. Have you you

0:25:24.920 --> 0:25:27.920
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have you played a home game against Port in

0:25:27.920 --> 0:25:32.119
<v Speaker 2>in finals in Adelaide though ever you're not in finals now,

0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:36.480
<v Speaker 2>but you would have in general in general played a

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:37.720
<v Speaker 2>few games.

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:39.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't think we've ever played a post season finals

0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:41.280
<v Speaker 1>match against them in the last ten years.

0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:44.800
<v Speaker 2>But like journal sis during the season, Yeah, of course,

0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:47.640
<v Speaker 2>how is it over there? How hostile is it? How's

0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:48.720
<v Speaker 2>the crowd?

0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:51.399
<v Speaker 1>Because it's like these things have like people sit like

0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:53.879
<v Speaker 1>behind the bench and just horrible abuse and stuff, and

0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 1>it's like whenever you warm up, so can you kind

0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:57.159
<v Speaker 1>of like run back and forth on the boundary to

0:25:57.240 --> 0:25:59.680
<v Speaker 1>like get the legs warm after you know, halftime or something.

0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:02.119
<v Speaker 1>If you're on the bench to start and people just

0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:05.080
<v Speaker 1>give it to you. They just hackle the living shit

0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:08.200
<v Speaker 1>out of here. It is insane and poor fans, are

0:26:08.440 --> 0:26:10.520
<v Speaker 1>you know? They give it to you. They don't hold back.

0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:12.600
<v Speaker 1>They don't hold back one bet. So I think you

0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:15.200
<v Speaker 1>look at the teams. I think Port Adelaide's kind of

0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:19.119
<v Speaker 1>one of the most abusive fan bases out there. Yeah.

0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:21.320
<v Speaker 3>Well, they went wild in the showdown the other week,

0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:22.240
<v Speaker 3>so like if the.

0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Whole like showing the teeth thing just rolled them up

0:26:24.560 --> 0:26:27.520
<v Speaker 1>and the like just fire in their eyes.

0:26:27.520 --> 0:26:31.320
<v Speaker 2>I think a prelim final chance on the line home

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 2>game in Adelaide, the fans are going to bring it.

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:38.159
<v Speaker 3>Never tear us apart is going to be wild.

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 2>It'd be a great atmosphere from March to the stadium

0:26:40.600 --> 0:26:43.159
<v Speaker 2>is going to be wild. Hopefully the sun's on point.

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:46.080
<v Speaker 2>It's nice there. Does the breeze come through the stand

0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:47.239
<v Speaker 2>where there's no stand for there?

0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, the breeze is a bit unique because there's

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:51.720
<v Speaker 1>like no stand behind and there's just a grasshill and

0:26:51.720 --> 0:26:53.239
<v Speaker 1>then there stands on the other side, so you get

0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:56.200
<v Speaker 1>a bit of a bit swirler at times. But yeah,

0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:58.480
<v Speaker 1>it's a great place to play well once it's a

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:00.000
<v Speaker 1>small ground, so it's a big fellow. You don't like

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:01.640
<v Speaker 1>to run around as much, so it's kind of nice

0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:03.200
<v Speaker 1>to be able to get to contest to contest with

0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:07.120
<v Speaker 1>killing yourself. But I love it, man, it's a great

0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:09.879
<v Speaker 1>atmosphere every time you go there and the crowd just

0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:13.040
<v Speaker 1>being so passionate just makes the atmosphere so much better.

0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:14.920
<v Speaker 2>And we're going to see a little Ken Hinckley jig

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:17.280
<v Speaker 2>over there maybe, So hopefully that's what we're all waiting for.

0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:23.240
<v Speaker 2>Hawthorne and Geelong, well they just boosted their morale heading

0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:26.480
<v Speaker 2>into the finals just by absolutely murdering their opponents on

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:26.959
<v Speaker 2>the weekend.

0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 3>So just a little drive by just to say well done.

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Drive by to the teams at the bottom just really

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:34.879
<v Speaker 1>just dig the dagger in.

0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:37.120
<v Speaker 3>No, Well, this one's another drive shout out.

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:39.199
<v Speaker 1>To Tom Hawk did a little lap of honor over

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:40.679
<v Speaker 1>there in julyong too, so I want to shout that

0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:43.720
<v Speaker 1>out back to it and Zach Tuoa. Yeah, so tough

0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:46.520
<v Speaker 1>see an International Fellows retire up one of the absolute

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:48.960
<v Speaker 1>legends of the game and the Torp King. You almost

0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:52.240
<v Speaker 1>calm but him and Tom Hawk. You know, the last

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 1>game at the Geelong Stadium was pretty special, So shout

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:56.320
<v Speaker 1>out to that. That was cool to see.

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:59.879
<v Speaker 2>It was nice because there was a moment where you

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Tom Hawkins is getting interviewed postgame and he was mindful

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:05.840
<v Speaker 2>that West Coast was lined up for the guard of Honors,

0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:08.200
<v Speaker 2>So he kind of cut his interview short so West

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:09.959
<v Speaker 2>Coast could get off the field on field and then

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:12.040
<v Speaker 2>he could go back out there and do a million laps.

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 2>But that was nice. He seems like just such a

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:17.120
<v Speaker 2>nice person. He's one of those bogs that you want

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 2>him to talk about himself for a bit of reflection,

0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:22.440
<v Speaker 2>and he just keeps saying how good everyone else is it?

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:24.199
<v Speaker 3>Like, we get that that's not the time for this.

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:26.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no one else is retiring you and Zach, so

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:27.880
<v Speaker 1>we talk about.

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:30.560
<v Speaker 2>You guys, And then this one. I just chucked this

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:33.199
<v Speaker 2>one in there. I don't know if I've mentioned I

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 2>don't like to kick North while they're down. But Richmond

0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 2>lost their last game of the season to lock up

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 2>the number one draft pick.

0:28:43.480 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Why do you say North? Was that maybe possibly a

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 1>thing that did in the past with Harley reed, I

0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 1>don't know.

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 2>One they cost themselves Harley read two. They almost won

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 2>the spoon again by losing by as much as they did.

0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 2>If Richmond had to beat the Suns at the g

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:03.920
<v Speaker 2>not saying that they could have if they tried real hard.

0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 2>But they lost locked in the number one draft pick,

0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:09.080
<v Speaker 2>and that's how it's done.

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Richmond wy I think it was zero point four percentage

0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 1>difference and like all of a sudden, Northalberget's the first pick.

0:29:16.600 --> 0:29:20.360
<v Speaker 1>Sane Richmond's thinking long term love that.

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 2>But now as a case study, if you look back

0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:26.360
<v Speaker 2>and it's like wins matter more than like number one

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:30.720
<v Speaker 2>draft picks, We're a year on. North isn't any better,

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:34.840
<v Speaker 2>probably technically worse with the percentage, and they don't have

0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 2>the number one draft picks, so they kind of didn't

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 2>get anything. So next time, if you if you can

0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 2>lose to win the number one draft pick, maybe just lose. Anyways,

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:49.720
<v Speaker 2>after this, I don't think they were big fans of

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 2>ours anyway. Platforms subscribe just to hate on us, that's great.

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 2>And then Saint Kilda, what was just a big win.

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Just to win they didn't need to have, like didn't

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 1>do anything for the season, but just a real dagger

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 1>for Carlton fans like the oh, the emotion in their

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:12.400
<v Speaker 1>faces is that game finished such a close one snap

0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 1>over the shoulder by Higgins, just the one, the one

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:18.480
<v Speaker 1>guy that you probably go, yeah, he's going to celebrate,

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:20.480
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna let you know.

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 2>Did that kick earlier in the game where he hit

0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 2>it that hard. He just put everything into it, his

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 2>whole body like levitated off the ground and he still

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 2>managed to have the accuracy to put it through the middle.

0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 3>It's just great.

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:35.880
<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to give them a little bit of

0:30:36.320 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 2>love because a couple of weeks ago I was like, Oh,

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 2>they're winning these games on the run home. It must

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 2>be a bit frustrating as a fan that it's like, oh,

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:45.320
<v Speaker 2>where was this earlier in the season to give us

0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:48.040
<v Speaker 2>a chance at finals? But like now, I think it's

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 2>at a point you'd flip flop it around. You've come

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:52.600
<v Speaker 2>to terms with you're not making finals, and then you're

0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:55.280
<v Speaker 2>just happy that your team's kind of being competitive all

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:57.160
<v Speaker 2>the way to the end. Ross talked about how it's

0:30:57.200 --> 0:31:00.680
<v Speaker 2>important for sponsors and members and all that to treat

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 2>it with the respect that it deserves.

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 1>It also shows you have a good culture where people

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 1>just layover yeah you know.

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, do not really have anything on the line.

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:08.840
<v Speaker 1>You say stuff it, I don't care, Like we're still

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 1>going to give our best.

0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:12.120
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, it gives them confidence going into next year,

0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:14.800
<v Speaker 2>Like they beat you along the other week, then they

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 2>like they're beating these finals bound teams, so they're thereabouts.

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 1>So it's very similar to us against Melbourne, like it

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:23.960
<v Speaker 1>was very low possibility where ever going to make finals.

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Were still put out a really good performance. So I

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 1>think it's a good sign your culture is in a

0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 1>good place.

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, let's jump into the big losers.

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Uh, free did you mention this one?

0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:38.440
<v Speaker 2>It deserves five or six slots in this podcast. So

0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:41.040
<v Speaker 2>if you're a Freeo fan, this is that whole. This

0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 2>is cathartic. We're doing it for you.

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 1>You were going to get it out of our system

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:48.400
<v Speaker 1>and then we're going to start fresh for next year.

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:51.280
<v Speaker 2>Because I love free As I've mentioned many times, my

0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 2>housemate is a Freeo die hard. I was barracking as

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 2>hard as I could at the TV.

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 3>Justin's a legend, legend, it's a it's a great place

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 3>over there.

0:32:00.560 --> 0:32:02.920
<v Speaker 2>They just couldn't get the win, which is annoying. They

0:32:03.000 --> 0:32:06.760
<v Speaker 2>lost their last four to fumble finals. I went to

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:09.720
<v Speaker 2>the Essendon game which started it all off, big five

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:13.040
<v Speaker 2>goal lead, and they just couldn't get it done. It

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 2>really that last center clearance that they streamed out of

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:18.720
<v Speaker 2>the middle and kicked the winning of the winning point

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:21.440
<v Speaker 2>or whatever it was, that was just like, Yeah, you.

0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 3>Stopped that center clearance. It's all done.

0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, they also cost themselves a draft pick slot

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 2>because losing, they dropped below Collingwood, and Collingwood is giving

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:37.239
<v Speaker 2>them their first round pick, so they It might be

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:38.959
<v Speaker 2>one of those ones that we look back and go

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:42.920
<v Speaker 2>like there was a kick after the siren that Richmond

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 2>won and they ended up locking in Dustin Martin as

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:48.280
<v Speaker 2>the draft pick. You never know how it rolls out.

0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 2>It could be another one of those situations. But yeah,

0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:55.240
<v Speaker 2>pretty amazing fall from grace of Frio, who only four

0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 2>weeks ago was.

0:32:57.000 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 1>In that we feel for you right now.

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 2>The pain now, Carlton, I was I'm a ring whether

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:10.160
<v Speaker 2>to chuck them in the biggest winners or the biggest

0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:13.160
<v Speaker 2>losers because they have they had. They had a shock

0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 2>and loss against the team outside the eighth when it

0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 2>was all on the line for them. In their heads,

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 2>it was all on the line.

0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:24.720
<v Speaker 1>The power make finals, like it was all up to them.

0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:25.960
<v Speaker 3>And they'd had some injuries.

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 2>They went across the West Coast and got a decent

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:31.600
<v Speaker 2>win against West Coast who obviously haven't dished up much

0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 2>in the past couple of weeks. But you know, yeah,

0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 2>they went on to lose that game. They had all

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 2>the momentum, the crowd got back into it, they hit

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:43.680
<v Speaker 2>the lead and then Higgins kicks the winner. A couple

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 2>of shock and things to look back on and reflect

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 2>for them. I'm sure you got the two weeks you've

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 2>got to rest, recover and get all your injured players

0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 2>back or as many as you can to reload and

0:33:56.120 --> 0:34:00.440
<v Speaker 2>go again. McGovern out hamstring late and stuff like that.

0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:04.240
<v Speaker 2>It's it's, you know, it's you can't lump it all

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:06.840
<v Speaker 2>on injuries because if you look back, it's it's like

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:09.759
<v Speaker 2>I said, it's six of their last nine, so's they've

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:11.400
<v Speaker 2>only had injuries for a couple of weeks.

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:14.719
<v Speaker 1>Important and finals looking good for.

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:15.440
<v Speaker 3>Them, Yeah they have.

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:20.839
<v Speaker 2>They probably have trips if you're looking at the top

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 2>eight at the moment. They have to go up to

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:24.719
<v Speaker 2>the Gabba and versus Brisbane at the Gabbo week one

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:26.880
<v Speaker 2>of finals in the elimination. So it's going to be

0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:30.839
<v Speaker 2>a massive game, hopefully big turnout. Hopefully the fans can

0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:33.279
<v Speaker 2>get up there, just see how confident they are that

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:35.560
<v Speaker 2>they can beat Brisbane, to see how many go up there.

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 2>One last one, big losers Melbourne, just the game in general,

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 2>but you could just see it was they were just done.

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:44.480
<v Speaker 1>But even their club over the last two or three

0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:46.440
<v Speaker 1>weeks has copped quite a bit of criticism, and it's

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 1>like one of those things where obviously you haven't finished

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:49.960
<v Speaker 1>on the top of the ladder, in the top eight,

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:52.800
<v Speaker 1>but then you pile on all the speculation and everything

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 1>else that's going on and just kind of makes the

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:58.560
<v Speaker 1>whole experiences in Melbourne fan just feel kind of gross. Yeah,

0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:01.720
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, just over the weekend, you just I Remember's

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:03.840
<v Speaker 1>sitting there finishing the game, like looking at him, thinking like,

0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:05.799
<v Speaker 1>it's got to be tough. It's going to be a

0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:08.400
<v Speaker 1>tough position to be in at the moment. Obviously, you know,

0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 1>they've been knocked out of finals quite a few times,

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, and back to back kind of losses, and

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 1>people always pile on that, you know, and they did

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 1>win the premiership recently, so they've had success. But after

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 1>that premiership, there was all this expectation that they were

0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 1>going to do it again and again and again, and

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 1>since then they just haven't been able to get back

0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:28.040
<v Speaker 1>to that point. So you feel for Melbourne fans, but yeah,

0:35:28.040 --> 0:35:29.440
<v Speaker 1>it's just kind of one of those things you have

0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:32.080
<v Speaker 1>to suss out everything over the off season and then

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:34.400
<v Speaker 1>to go in with a fresh kind of attitude mindset

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 1>for the next year.

0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 3>It is footy there is.

0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:39.680
<v Speaker 2>It reminded me a bit of like the twenty sixteen

0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:42.840
<v Speaker 2>seventeen times where like Collingwood would go to start the

0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:45.600
<v Speaker 2>season and it would feel like I don't know if

0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:47.960
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, I don't know if journals do

0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:50.360
<v Speaker 2>this on purpose, but they definitely do holding a story

0:35:50.560 --> 0:35:53.960
<v Speaker 2>till the eve of the season drop a big bombshell

0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:56.319
<v Speaker 2>that rattles a club. There was a couple of years

0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:58.359
<v Speaker 2>I feel like in a row where Collingwood went through

0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:01.319
<v Speaker 2>that and it starts to season off shaky, which is

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:04.359
<v Speaker 2>the Clayton Oliva stuff over the whole off season for them,

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:08.440
<v Speaker 2>and then it rolled into you know, the Petraka Spleen

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:11.600
<v Speaker 2>injury and now the speculation around him wanting out a

0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:16.320
<v Speaker 2>fair few of their players exploring options. Yeah, it's just

0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:18.080
<v Speaker 2>a rough time to be a supporter when all of

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 2>that happens. And that's what I will say about calling

0:36:21.000 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 2>what I said it last week. They they hold onto

0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:26.600
<v Speaker 2>players like even in tough times, you guys are finishing

0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:29.120
<v Speaker 2>like second last in less obviously you screw up your

0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:31.759
<v Speaker 2>salary cap situation and then you have to you know,

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:35.480
<v Speaker 2>offload a couple players want to stay there, so like, yeah,

0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 2>it's it's a rough one for fans to sit back

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:41.120
<v Speaker 2>and hear players from their club saying I want to

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 2>go somewhere else, I want to explore other options. I

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 2>think that's as deflating as anything. So yeah, horror run

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:51.920
<v Speaker 2>for them this year, fourteenth But yeah, it's and then

0:36:51.960 --> 0:36:55.320
<v Speaker 2>the second lost, the second Collingwood.

0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:57.040
<v Speaker 3>That doesn't help us to Stephen May.

0:36:57.040 --> 0:36:58.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you remember the comments, mate, Stephen

0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:00.439
<v Speaker 2>Mays said, we're a hell of a lot better team

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:02.640
<v Speaker 2>than Collingwood. Can't believe Collingwood won the Grand Final.

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:04.919
<v Speaker 1>Well, guess what, I think you had a few drinks

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 1>before that comment.

0:37:05.760 --> 0:37:08.680
<v Speaker 2>You both you're both not there this season, so we

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:10.319
<v Speaker 2>can all look back and laugh at that as we

0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:11.640
<v Speaker 2>jump into the Collingwood game.

0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:13.520
<v Speaker 3>Because you did beat Melbourne.

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Quite convincingly in the end, it must have been a

0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:17.760
<v Speaker 2>good feeling to get out there and finish the season

0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:19.040
<v Speaker 2>with the wa.

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:21.080
<v Speaker 1>It took a bit longer than expected. It took a

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 1>little bit longer and expect it. But the minute plush

0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 1>looking up at the scoreboard, and I didn't know like

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:28.400
<v Speaker 1>the clock would go that far up when it was

0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:31.080
<v Speaker 1>like sixty five minutes, So I was like, I've never

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 1>seen that before. Interesting, But yeah, now it's a great

0:37:34.640 --> 0:37:36.360
<v Speaker 1>way to end the season. Obviously you'd want to be

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:39.320
<v Speaker 1>in the top eight and playing finals, but given the circumstances,

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, and I think it was a bit of

0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:44.359
<v Speaker 1>a you go into that game knowing there's a low probability,

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:47.080
<v Speaker 1>but to show up and still, you know, provide kind

0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:48.399
<v Speaker 1>of your best and be able to get that win

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:50.839
<v Speaker 1>on the last game of the season was a good

0:37:50.840 --> 0:37:52.879
<v Speaker 1>way to wrap it up, I think in a sense

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:55.480
<v Speaker 1>with the situation, with the circumstances that are.

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think Fly said after Fly said a

0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:02.279
<v Speaker 2>few funny comments and press up, but he said, in

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:04.399
<v Speaker 2>that last game, you did get to learn a fair

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 2>bit about your list. Like obviously played a lot of

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:10.399
<v Speaker 2>kids Dan McStay Out, Sauna, Slate and stuff like that.

0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:12.200
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, a lot of.

0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 2>These kids came in, not kids, young men came in,

0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:21.319
<v Speaker 2>played you know, their early starts of their career. What

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:23.799
<v Speaker 2>did you think that you learned from your list, not

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:26.400
<v Speaker 2>only in that game but this year because you've had

0:38:26.400 --> 0:38:28.400
<v Speaker 2>a lot of injuries, a lot of ins and outs.

0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:29.960
<v Speaker 1>There's been a lot of opportunity, I think for the

0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 1>young guys this year, which has been awesome, and I

0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:35.080
<v Speaker 1>think they've really kind of showed how good they are

0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:36.560
<v Speaker 1>and that they can actually play at the level I

0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:40.600
<v Speaker 1>think obviously you want kind of the best players playing employee.

0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:42.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, we have a very experienced team, and some

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:44.839
<v Speaker 1>of those people were injured throughout the year, and that's

0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:46.439
<v Speaker 1>just kind of part of it. But you look back

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 1>on the year as a whole and you kind of realize,

0:38:48.040 --> 0:38:50.360
<v Speaker 1>like we essentially tied two games where you know, you

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:53.040
<v Speaker 1>score one point, like one behind, and one of those

0:38:53.080 --> 0:38:54.960
<v Speaker 1>games you win it and also can go the other way,

0:38:55.000 --> 0:38:57.800
<v Speaker 1>don't get me wrong, but one more point you essentially

0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 1>in finals. Yeah, it's like such a close margin in

0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:03.359
<v Speaker 1>that sense. So that's one of the biggest lessons, I think.

0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:05.239
<v Speaker 1>But for us, it was a great way to be

0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:07.200
<v Speaker 1>able to get experience into some of our players given

0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:10.040
<v Speaker 1>the circumstances we had, and you know, you're pretty proud

0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:11.880
<v Speaker 1>of some of the guys that stepped up in the

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:14.200
<v Speaker 1>moment and we're able to kind of provide on the big,

0:39:14.239 --> 0:39:14.800
<v Speaker 1>big stage.

0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:17.239
<v Speaker 2>And He's good Ed Allen tell me a bit about him,

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:19.080
<v Speaker 2>because it was he's a big boy. When I saw

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:20.719
<v Speaker 2>him out there, I was like, he's one of the

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:21.439
<v Speaker 2>he's one.

0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Of the midfield. Yeah, pretty tall midfielder, and yeah's it's

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:27.120
<v Speaker 1>a tough midfield to kind of crack into. So he's

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:28.920
<v Speaker 1>he's definitely had to do his time in the VFL.

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:31.040
<v Speaker 1>But over the weekend played really well and I think

0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:33.440
<v Speaker 1>showed different signs of yea his capabilities and what he

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:35.839
<v Speaker 1>can bring to the table. So yeah, definitely look out

0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:37.160
<v Speaker 1>for him as one of those that's going to be

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:39.920
<v Speaker 1>hopefully in our future playing games. And you know, at

0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:40.960
<v Speaker 1>the club long time.

0:39:41.080 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of tall, I saw you rubbed the top of

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Darcy Cameron's head and I was like, jeez, you're you're.

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:50.120
<v Speaker 3>A lot taller than him. I was like, you are big.

0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Docy Cameron's probably three or four or two or

0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 1>three interest sort of me.

0:39:56.560 --> 0:40:00.479
<v Speaker 3>At least wild. I was like, this is free. Who's

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:01.040
<v Speaker 3>this free?

0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 1>Big tree.

0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:07.399
<v Speaker 3>Ruffled him on their head. Good on your champion, Good

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:08.240
<v Speaker 3>on your little fellow.

0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:12.319
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh my god, this guy's anyway, let's

0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:15.920
<v Speaker 2>jump into some like intricacies about the game. I did

0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:19.440
<v Speaker 2>want to jump into Razor Ray's last game. We love Razor.

0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:22.239
<v Speaker 2>We had Razor on the pod, one of the all

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:27.120
<v Speaker 2>time pods that we've done. Spoke with such eloquence and

0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:31.319
<v Speaker 2>articulation that it annoyed me that I was agreeing with an.

0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 3>Umpire as much as I did.

0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:36.240
<v Speaker 2>It was just like when in Loaded, Locked and Loaded

0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:38.200
<v Speaker 2>to be like, why don't you just the one where

0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 2>it was like, why don't you just umpire like the

0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Grand Final every week? And he broke it down the

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:44.719
<v Speaker 2>reason as to why I'm an idiot, and I was like,

0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 2>a son of a bitch.

0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:49.480
<v Speaker 1>But if you haven't if you haven't heard that one,

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:51.360
<v Speaker 1>look it up on the just you know, look it

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:54.000
<v Speaker 1>up on the search bar. And he speaks really well.

0:40:54.000 --> 0:40:57.440
<v Speaker 1>And I think you'll leave that being more understanding of

0:40:57.440 --> 0:40:59.440
<v Speaker 1>what umpires have to go through and why they do

0:40:59.480 --> 0:41:03.200
<v Speaker 1>what they do. Very very interesting chat that I think

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people can learn from.

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I hope he stays in umpiring in some

0:41:08.160 --> 0:41:12.880
<v Speaker 2>facet because he's definitely in it for one hundred percent

0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 2>of the right reasons and wants the game to flourish

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:17.000
<v Speaker 2>and all of that stuff.

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:18.560
<v Speaker 1>So, you know, I want to see as a role

0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:20.120
<v Speaker 1>for Razor Ray. I'm gonna put this out there to

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:23.040
<v Speaker 1>the public right now. In the NFL, they have an

0:41:23.080 --> 0:41:26.239
<v Speaker 1>ex umpire or an ex referee that anytime there's a

0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:29.120
<v Speaker 1>questionable call or something that happens that's controversial, they go

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:31.000
<v Speaker 1>to him say what's the facts, you know, what's the

0:41:31.080 --> 0:41:33.400
<v Speaker 1>ruling around us, what's going on? And that person just

0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 1>gives it to him straight says this is the rule,

0:41:35.239 --> 0:41:37.200
<v Speaker 1>this is where it's at. This is the code ballbon

0:41:37.640 --> 0:41:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I say, go to Channel seven. Razorray be hired by them.

0:41:40.520 --> 0:41:43.040
<v Speaker 1>So anytime there's a questionable thing with the umpire, sorry,

0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:45.759
<v Speaker 1>the commentators aren't really sure what's going on, or maybe

0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:48.080
<v Speaker 1>it's a bit of a question mark. He goes, here's

0:41:48.120 --> 0:41:51.799
<v Speaker 1>the facts, bang, bang bang, this should be called this way. Yeah.

0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:53.840
<v Speaker 1>I think he'd be incredible for that position.

0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:54.800
<v Speaker 3>It's a no brainer.

0:41:54.840 --> 0:41:58.080
<v Speaker 2>And I but I figure it's so obvious to have

0:41:58.120 --> 0:42:00.959
<v Speaker 2>that person as a role that they mustn't be doing

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:04.319
<v Speaker 2>it for a reason because at the moment the commentators

0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:08.000
<v Speaker 2>just guess the public is none the wiser, and it

0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:11.400
<v Speaker 2>leaves a negative opinion on some of these calls that

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 2>were correct but.

0:42:13.239 --> 0:42:15.759
<v Speaker 1>Still opinionated there. Yeah, so like Ray could go and

0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:17.440
<v Speaker 1>do that Channel seven stuff and he could say, yeap,

0:42:17.440 --> 0:42:18.799
<v Speaker 1>this is the way it should be a judicated. Then

0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:20.560
<v Speaker 1>it's it's quite different on the field. So it's a

0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:23.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of responsibility to put your name out there and say, Okay,

0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:25.279
<v Speaker 1>I might be wrong, why I'm speaking on it, and

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:27.440
<v Speaker 1>just know that the game sometimes is not going to

0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:29.799
<v Speaker 1>follow the rules or as might be swayed one way

0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:31.440
<v Speaker 1>because of an umpire's opinion on the day.

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:35.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's just educating everyone. But to the rest of

0:42:35.120 --> 0:42:37.120
<v Speaker 2>stuff anyway, No, we got to get into the Razor Ray.

0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:39.920
<v Speaker 3>Razorra retired.

0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:44.520
<v Speaker 2>Amazing career, would have you know, umpired a million games,

0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:46.640
<v Speaker 2>done all the Grand Finals. He's done everything there is

0:42:46.680 --> 0:42:51.200
<v Speaker 2>to do. Good made of yours moments shared pregame or anything.

0:42:51.280 --> 0:42:52.760
<v Speaker 2>Did you talk to the big fella.

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Pregame post game? Yeah, Like it was cool to kind

0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:57.000
<v Speaker 1>of see him and I rocked up. I didn't know

0:42:57.040 --> 0:42:58.640
<v Speaker 1>he was actually umpiring. On the day you go in,

0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:00.640
<v Speaker 1>they've got like a sheet on the wall next to

0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:02.480
<v Speaker 1>the schedule and says like who's umpiring? You know the

0:43:02.520 --> 0:43:05.240
<v Speaker 1>four major umpires or however many there is, and Razors

0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:07.239
<v Speaker 1>on there. And I was like, oh wow, like this

0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:09.160
<v Speaker 1>this might be his last game. He'll over umpire. It's

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:10.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of cool to be involved in that because he's

0:43:10.600 --> 0:43:12.279
<v Speaker 1>such an icon of the sport. I feel like, you know,

0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:14.680
<v Speaker 1>lover hate him. You know who he is, and he's

0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:16.719
<v Speaker 1>been able to copt criticism and everything else and be

0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:19.560
<v Speaker 1>a face of umpiring for a long time. So yeah,

0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:20.840
<v Speaker 1>going out there, you know, I was just kind of

0:43:20.880 --> 0:43:22.360
<v Speaker 1>like had a big smile on my face like he

0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:24.200
<v Speaker 1>always does, you know, and just said, all the best, man,

0:43:24.560 --> 0:43:27.480
<v Speaker 1>what an incredible journey, and I'm really excited about the

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:29.360
<v Speaker 1>next chapter and stuff like that. And then after, you know,

0:43:29.360 --> 0:43:31.640
<v Speaker 1>you just say congratulations, and it's great to see everyone chair,

0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:34.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, cheer him off, and there's a few boos

0:43:34.560 --> 0:43:37.600
<v Speaker 1>in the crowd. I know that frustrating, So I should

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:38.600
<v Speaker 1>be my clanger, to be honest.

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:42.040
<v Speaker 2>I saw him having some words as he was leaving

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:45.000
<v Speaker 2>with his with his fans, yeah, and he was going

0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:46.799
<v Speaker 2>back and forth to someone in the crowd. It's like

0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:49.760
<v Speaker 2>you have to give them the benefit of the doubt

0:43:49.760 --> 0:43:51.479
<v Speaker 2>that they didn't know that it was his last game

0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:54.160
<v Speaker 2>or like even though he just walked through a guard

0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:56.680
<v Speaker 2>of honor. But at the same time who gives a

0:43:56.719 --> 0:43:59.239
<v Speaker 2>shit like I don't abuse people as they come from

0:43:59.280 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 2>the ground.

0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:00.759
<v Speaker 3>Doesn't make any sick.

0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:02.759
<v Speaker 1>But he's given so much to the game cops, so

0:44:02.840 --> 0:44:04.840
<v Speaker 1>much criticism and everything else, and he's still done it

0:44:04.880 --> 0:44:06.680
<v Speaker 1>with a smile. And I don't think there's many people

0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I could do what he's done. So I think you

0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:10.800
<v Speaker 1>have to give credit to a person like that, a

0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:13.880
<v Speaker 1>person that's dedicated a huge chunk of his life to

0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:16.680
<v Speaker 1>try and make the game better. And you know, it

0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:18.840
<v Speaker 1>was great to see both teams give him the respect

0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:21.120
<v Speaker 1>and you know, clap them off. And I asked him,

0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:22.920
<v Speaker 1>I said, do you want to be chaired off? It

0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:25.480
<v Speaker 1>just looks at me and he goes, no freaking chance,

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I was. I had to ask. You know, you just

0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:28.000
<v Speaker 1>never know.

0:44:28.040 --> 0:44:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Right you your life, you and gone would have been funny.

0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:33.719
<v Speaker 1>Thing is so Ray. I can tell the story now

0:44:33.760 --> 0:44:36.279
<v Speaker 1>he's retired. So Ray back in the U S I

0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:38.360
<v Speaker 1>f L. You know, there was this kind of celebration

0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:40.479
<v Speaker 1>after it, you know, and I was like, right, job,

0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:44.120
<v Speaker 1>all shoulders, mate, I had a few beers. So there's

0:44:44.120 --> 0:44:47.040
<v Speaker 1>a photo of me and raise full on my shoulders

0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:49.160
<v Speaker 1>and raise all my shoulds. I gonna find this all

0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:53.279
<v Speaker 1>my shoulders. He's like, yeah, just go nuts. It was

0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:55.759
<v Speaker 1>so funny, man. But he's just an absolute character, an

0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:58.600
<v Speaker 1>absolute legend of the game. And yeah, I'm excited for

0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:00.440
<v Speaker 1>him to hopefully stay involved in some capacity.

0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:03.359
<v Speaker 2>It reminds me of one of those cartoons where they

0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:05.360
<v Speaker 2>stack each other up, the two short blokes and they

0:45:05.400 --> 0:45:08.680
<v Speaker 2>put the trench coat over the top. It's it's never

0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:13.239
<v Speaker 2>been as tall, but yes, that's awesome. Congratulations raised a great,

0:45:14.160 --> 0:45:18.319
<v Speaker 2>great career, amazing career. And I always think that, like,

0:45:18.440 --> 0:45:25.600
<v Speaker 2>compared to the NRL's officials, like afl umpires remember everyone's

0:45:25.680 --> 0:45:28.319
<v Speaker 2>first name in the entire league and give them the

0:45:28.360 --> 0:45:32.120
<v Speaker 2>respect by calling them by their first name at all times,

0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:35.080
<v Speaker 2>whereas like, yeah, the NRL, it's like you only speak

0:45:35.120 --> 0:45:38.840
<v Speaker 2>to the captain and you don't even really say their names.

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:41.360
<v Speaker 3>It's quite wild, but it's very impressive.

0:45:41.640 --> 0:45:44.600
<v Speaker 2>It's like he could be a barista in the future

0:45:44.640 --> 0:45:46.479
<v Speaker 2>because he'd remember everyone's names and orders.

0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:48.800
<v Speaker 3>Coming back in, let's.

0:45:48.600 --> 0:45:52.399
<v Speaker 1>Go into mortgages spare time.

0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:54.880
<v Speaker 2>So you kind of glossed over the lightning delay, but

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:59.279
<v Speaker 2>you had a lightning delay in your game, Yeah, what

0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:02.239
<v Speaker 2>was how did you know what was coming during the

0:46:02.280 --> 0:46:03.920
<v Speaker 2>game like it was getting pretty ominously.

0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:05.560
<v Speaker 3>You could hear it through the broadcast.

0:46:05.600 --> 0:46:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, it was. It kind of like started spinning

0:46:07.600 --> 0:46:09.239
<v Speaker 1>in like the fourth quarter, and you go, okay, and

0:46:09.239 --> 0:46:11.800
<v Speaker 1>then that at one point there was this big lightning

0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:14.120
<v Speaker 1>strike that kind of like lit up the sky. And

0:46:14.160 --> 0:46:16.080
<v Speaker 1>then you know with lightning, as soon as you see

0:46:16.120 --> 0:46:17.759
<v Speaker 1>the lightning, you kind of count. I think it's like

0:46:17.840 --> 0:46:19.960
<v Speaker 1>you count the seconds after to figure out how far

0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:22.280
<v Speaker 1>it is from you. Yeah, and it's maybe like one seconds,

0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:24.120
<v Speaker 1>like you know, five miles or something like that. So

0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:27.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, I saw the lightning. There was like lightning, bang, thunder,

0:46:27.760 --> 0:46:30.719
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh, that's pretty close. I was

0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:35.279
<v Speaker 1>like this I didn't expect, so I kind of in

0:46:35.280 --> 0:46:36.520
<v Speaker 1>that moment you saw it and you sitting there, I

0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:37.840
<v Speaker 1>was talking to one of the players something. I was

0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:40.040
<v Speaker 1>just like, oh, dude, like don't tell me we're going

0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:41.799
<v Speaker 1>to get a rain delay or like the game's going

0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:43.279
<v Speaker 1>to be suspended. We have to do this again like

0:46:43.320 --> 0:46:45.520
<v Speaker 1>another week or whatever. You don't know the rulings around it,

0:46:45.560 --> 0:46:48.279
<v Speaker 1>but I was just like okay. And then like you know, you,

0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:50.279
<v Speaker 1>I came off and it's maybe like ten minutes later

0:46:50.280 --> 0:46:51.520
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, I guess we'll play through it, you know.

0:46:51.520 --> 0:46:53.360
<v Speaker 1>And then I'm sitting on the bench and one of

0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:56.279
<v Speaker 1>the AFL kind of official officials and stuff kind of

0:46:56.320 --> 0:46:58.520
<v Speaker 1>comes over and has a few words with flying It

0:46:58.600 --> 0:46:59.879
<v Speaker 1>kind of looks at me and looks at the rest

0:46:59.880 --> 0:47:01.359
<v Speaker 1>of all right, cool, we're gonna have to go in,

0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:04.719
<v Speaker 1>go into the sheds. And I was like, there's like

0:47:04.880 --> 0:47:07.160
<v Speaker 1>nine and a half minutes left the game at that

0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:09.400
<v Speaker 1>point was you know, pretty well done and dusted. You

0:47:09.400 --> 0:47:11.920
<v Speaker 1>don't ast say yeah, and you got to go in.

0:47:11.960 --> 0:47:14.000
<v Speaker 1>And we waited for the forty five minutes sitting there

0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:16.400
<v Speaker 1>and just going. The worst bit was like the food

0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:19.719
<v Speaker 1>was already down there for posts. See you're smelling KFC,

0:47:20.080 --> 0:47:22.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, you just sitting there. You smell the nuggets,

0:47:22.840 --> 0:47:26.560
<v Speaker 1>you smell the chicken wrap. You're looking forward to that,

0:47:27.360 --> 0:47:29.840
<v Speaker 1>you know. You know, you know there's beers in that cooler.

0:47:30.320 --> 0:47:33.239
<v Speaker 1>You know there's beers in the ASKI and you're sitting

0:47:33.239 --> 0:47:35.400
<v Speaker 1>there looking at it, going we've got nine and a

0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:37.920
<v Speaker 1>half minutes left, boys, let's smash through this and we

0:47:37.960 --> 0:47:40.520
<v Speaker 1>can enjoy the off season, all right. So yeah, you

0:47:40.520 --> 0:47:41.919
<v Speaker 1>get back up and I think we had like five

0:47:41.920 --> 0:47:43.839
<v Speaker 1>minutes to warm up. It's absurd, So we like such

0:47:43.840 --> 0:47:45.480
<v Speaker 1>a straight back out, you know, and then start playing

0:47:45.560 --> 0:47:47.319
<v Speaker 1>right away and fear.

0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:49.360
<v Speaker 3>That you could do a soft tissue or something.

0:47:49.440 --> 0:47:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, like I've had a bit of like

0:47:52.080 --> 0:47:54.239
<v Speaker 1>hamsterring awareness over the week and stuff like that. So

0:47:54.480 --> 0:47:56.200
<v Speaker 1>I was on the bench to start off, and like

0:47:56.200 --> 0:47:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I did a few extra runs and what not, just

0:47:57.680 --> 0:47:59.480
<v Speaker 1>to make sure that I kind of felt felt good

0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:01.239
<v Speaker 1>and didn't want to ping hamstring in the last nine

0:48:01.280 --> 0:48:04.120
<v Speaker 1>minutes of the season. So yeah, it was one of

0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:05.920
<v Speaker 1>those things. Yeah, it was. I felt like it was

0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:09.120
<v Speaker 1>quite rushed, but understandable given a Friday night game. Families

0:48:09.160 --> 0:48:11.360
<v Speaker 1>want to go home and stuff like that. But credit

0:48:11.400 --> 0:48:13.200
<v Speaker 1>to the fans and everything else. They stayed towards the end,

0:48:13.200 --> 0:48:15.399
<v Speaker 1>and it's great to see how many people were there

0:48:15.440 --> 0:48:17.680
<v Speaker 1>even after the you know, the hour delay or if

0:48:17.719 --> 0:48:20.000
<v Speaker 1>it was to stick around for the end of the season.

0:48:20.000 --> 0:48:21.160
<v Speaker 1>It was pretty cool. Yeah.

0:48:21.239 --> 0:48:23.839
<v Speaker 2>Well, I guess as a Carlton, as a Collingwood fan,

0:48:23.920 --> 0:48:26.560
<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh, we got fifty points up. Last game

0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:29.160
<v Speaker 2>of the year, Like women as I stick it out.

0:48:29.560 --> 0:48:32.360
<v Speaker 2>I think everyone probably wants to know last game of

0:48:32.360 --> 0:48:36.560
<v Speaker 2>your season were you planning beers. Are you thinking this

0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:39.840
<v Speaker 2>has pushed the plans back? What's the postgame salies?

0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:42.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean like we were still a chance for

0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:45.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, that last part of the season. But I think, yeah,

0:48:45.400 --> 0:48:47.600
<v Speaker 1>you finished the game, you go okay, chances that Carlton

0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:50.120
<v Speaker 1>loses by one hundred and fifty is probably not high. Plus,

0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:51.799
<v Speaker 1>Like there is the bye week after, so they can

0:48:51.880 --> 0:48:54.520
<v Speaker 1>do a beers. It's not irresponsible to many beers after

0:48:54.520 --> 0:48:57.080
<v Speaker 1>the game, right, So that's all kind of like set

0:48:57.160 --> 0:48:58.640
<v Speaker 1>up after the game to have a few in the

0:48:58.680 --> 0:49:00.440
<v Speaker 1>locker room and be able to share some friends and

0:49:00.480 --> 0:49:02.640
<v Speaker 1>family and things like that. So you know, the club

0:49:02.640 --> 0:49:05.960
<v Speaker 1>had a bit of a celebration on Saturday along that,

0:49:06.080 --> 0:49:08.200
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, that's just kind of how it plays out

0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:10.040
<v Speaker 1>over the end of the season. You just kind of

0:49:10.080 --> 0:49:12.040
<v Speaker 1>go okay, like this is all wrapped up, have a

0:49:12.080 --> 0:49:15.040
<v Speaker 1>few drinks, you know, get to celebrate what was and

0:49:15.239 --> 0:49:17.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's interesting because you look at a

0:49:17.040 --> 0:49:18.920
<v Speaker 1>team and you look at the staff and admin, the

0:49:18.920 --> 0:49:22.000
<v Speaker 1>physios and everything else. It's never the exact same every year,

0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:24.040
<v Speaker 1>so you know there's going to be changes. It's going

0:49:24.080 --> 0:49:26.239
<v Speaker 1>to be people that are in that room that won't

0:49:26.239 --> 0:49:27.880
<v Speaker 1>be there the next year and won't be part of

0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:30.400
<v Speaker 1>the next year's experience, And at some point in my

0:49:30.440 --> 0:49:31.719
<v Speaker 1>career that's going to be me, and I'm gonna be

0:49:31.719 --> 0:49:33.200
<v Speaker 1>one of those people that doesn't show up, you know,

0:49:33.320 --> 0:49:36.400
<v Speaker 1>for the next next year and going to be uncontracted,

0:49:36.440 --> 0:49:38.680
<v Speaker 1>you know. So I think the older that you get,

0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:40.840
<v Speaker 1>the more you realize that there's a lot of people

0:49:40.840 --> 0:49:42.360
<v Speaker 1>that come and go from the system, and you have

0:49:42.440 --> 0:49:44.880
<v Speaker 1>to really respect the fact that, you know, it's just

0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:46.640
<v Speaker 1>never going to be the same group of people every

0:49:46.640 --> 0:49:49.480
<v Speaker 1>single year. There's going to be different faces, and you know,

0:49:49.560 --> 0:49:51.279
<v Speaker 1>different people will come in and you get to have

0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:53.640
<v Speaker 1>an incredible experience and share life with them and you know,

0:49:53.640 --> 0:49:56.879
<v Speaker 1>hopefully make some lifelong friendships. But it's never the same

0:49:56.880 --> 0:49:58.359
<v Speaker 1>people every year, which is a bit of a sad

0:49:58.520 --> 0:50:00.359
<v Speaker 1>reality you have to understand at the end of the year.

0:50:01.080 --> 0:50:03.160
<v Speaker 3>I never liked that last speech from the coach.

0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:07.400
<v Speaker 2>Look around the room, boys, it'll never be the same, Like,

0:50:07.840 --> 0:50:12.840
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, but don't say it. One or two blokes

0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:15.320
<v Speaker 2>that might still be there next year. The Decos Brothers,

0:50:15.360 --> 0:50:17.719
<v Speaker 2>don't know if you've heard of them, but pretty good

0:50:17.760 --> 0:50:21.560
<v Speaker 2>eighty disposals between them, but Nick is the one that

0:50:21.600 --> 0:50:23.040
<v Speaker 2>they're talking about Brownlow chance.

0:50:23.120 --> 0:50:24.279
<v Speaker 3>Reckon he's a brown Law chance.

0:50:24.400 --> 0:50:27.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm hoping. I'm very tough him and Bonce of Pelly,

0:50:27.280 --> 0:50:30.799
<v Speaker 1>i'd say up there at the moment, come home. I'm

0:50:30.800 --> 0:50:35.880
<v Speaker 1>strong too. Yeah, I mean i'd love obviously I'm super biased.

0:50:36.440 --> 0:50:39.160
<v Speaker 1>You could say that one now it's early and then

0:50:39.320 --> 0:50:40.720
<v Speaker 1>early four months since of his career.

0:50:40.800 --> 0:50:41.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like he will.

0:50:41.600 --> 0:50:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I would love for him to get one now. So

0:50:42.960 --> 0:50:44.640
<v Speaker 1>in the pressure for him to get ones off, you's

0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:46.040
<v Speaker 1>don't have to worry about the rest of his career.

0:50:46.080 --> 0:50:47.480
<v Speaker 3>I feel like if he gets one now, he's going

0:50:47.520 --> 0:50:48.720
<v Speaker 3>to get like six of them.

0:50:48.840 --> 0:50:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well that's a possibility too, of course. But you know,

0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:54.399
<v Speaker 1>whenever he goes through a whole season and doesn't miss

0:50:54.400 --> 0:50:55.960
<v Speaker 1>a game, you know, I think that's one of the

0:50:55.960 --> 0:50:57.560
<v Speaker 1>biggest things. If you have an injury or something like that,

0:50:57.600 --> 0:50:59.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, I obviously hurts your Brownlow chances. So for

0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:01.439
<v Speaker 1>him to have a whole season where he was healthy,

0:51:01.480 --> 0:51:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a good chance for him to win

0:51:02.960 --> 0:51:04.920
<v Speaker 1>a Brownlow. You look at most of the games, he's

0:51:04.960 --> 0:51:07.000
<v Speaker 1>definitely best on ground for a fair chunk of them, so.

0:51:07.040 --> 0:51:08.480
<v Speaker 3>We would have won the last one if you didn't

0:51:08.480 --> 0:51:09.160
<v Speaker 3>get injured for it.

0:51:09.280 --> 0:51:11.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, there's like three games you messing he would

0:51:11.960 --> 0:51:13.400
<v Speaker 1>have won the Brown there. So hopefully this year he

0:51:13.400 --> 0:51:15.359
<v Speaker 1>can win that and get to celebrate that. WHI would

0:51:15.360 --> 0:51:16.800
<v Speaker 1>be an awesome accomplishment in his life.

0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:17.920
<v Speaker 3>So what happens now?

0:51:18.000 --> 0:51:20.839
<v Speaker 2>We will do another podcast where we talk about the

0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:25.279
<v Speaker 2>future and good questions all of that stuff. But logistically,

0:51:25.400 --> 0:51:29.160
<v Speaker 2>what's what happens now? So exit meetings mad Monday.

0:51:29.400 --> 0:51:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exit meetings this morning and then going to a

0:51:31.640 --> 0:51:33.000
<v Speaker 1>wacky Wednesday is what we're doing.

0:51:33.040 --> 0:51:35.080
<v Speaker 3>So exit meetings just happened so quick.

0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:37.959
<v Speaker 1>I do well. I think like they kind of prep

0:51:38.000 --> 0:51:40.160
<v Speaker 1>it in the background, the docks and the physios and

0:51:40.200 --> 0:51:42.200
<v Speaker 1>the high performance stuff and stuff like that. You know,

0:51:42.200 --> 0:51:43.919
<v Speaker 1>they have to kind of be prepared so you can't

0:51:43.960 --> 0:51:46.680
<v Speaker 1>just like smash that all into two days and expect

0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:48.400
<v Speaker 1>you to be able to have all the programs ready.

0:51:48.440 --> 0:51:50.560
<v Speaker 1>So there is I guess a bit of foresight in

0:51:50.560 --> 0:51:53.000
<v Speaker 1>that sense. You go in there, you talk to the coach,

0:51:53.040 --> 0:51:55.759
<v Speaker 1>you talk to the doctors and stuff. You know, go

0:51:55.840 --> 0:51:58.600
<v Speaker 1>get scans. I've had probably four MRIs in the last

0:51:58.960 --> 0:52:01.399
<v Speaker 1>week or two just to make sure everything's all good

0:52:01.440 --> 0:52:03.120
<v Speaker 1>and there's no issues. And if you need to get injections,

0:52:03.160 --> 0:52:06.640
<v Speaker 1>get injections. You figure out your kind of recovery plan

0:52:06.680 --> 0:52:09.080
<v Speaker 1>if you need that. You look at kind of your

0:52:09.520 --> 0:52:11.879
<v Speaker 1>conditioning plan over the off season, your strength plan. There's

0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:14.200
<v Speaker 1>so many things you put into place because you know

0:52:14.239 --> 0:52:16.640
<v Speaker 1>you probably won't be back for me, like I won't

0:52:16.640 --> 0:52:19.120
<v Speaker 1>be back for almost two months. Yeah, so I'm going, okay,

0:52:19.320 --> 0:52:21.359
<v Speaker 1>if that's scenario, I need to have everything figured out

0:52:21.400 --> 0:52:24.080
<v Speaker 1>for the next two months scheduled properly to know when

0:52:24.080 --> 0:52:26.160
<v Speaker 1>if I leave. I don't need to have the club

0:52:26.400 --> 0:52:27.960
<v Speaker 1>physically there for me to do something.

0:52:28.040 --> 0:52:30.279
<v Speaker 3>You have to do conditioning in the States, Oh of course.

0:52:30.360 --> 0:52:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:52:30.920 --> 0:52:32.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you got to go back to state Wide and

0:52:32.640 --> 0:52:34.400
<v Speaker 3>go for a jog and hit the gym and stuff.

0:52:34.480 --> 0:52:36.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and go to the gym every single day pretty much,

0:52:36.320 --> 0:52:38.600
<v Speaker 1>and then go go run every other day.

0:52:39.120 --> 0:52:39.560
<v Speaker 3>Wash it down.

0:52:39.680 --> 0:52:41.399
<v Speaker 1>Do you think we just go on holiday just drink

0:52:41.400 --> 0:52:43.080
<v Speaker 1>piss for two weeks or two months?

0:52:43.160 --> 0:52:43.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:52:43.719 --> 0:52:46.600
<v Speaker 1>No, still professional athletes, If you did that, you would

0:52:46.640 --> 0:52:48.640
<v Speaker 1>come back so out of shape. There's no chance you'd

0:52:48.640 --> 0:52:49.200
<v Speaker 1>ever get a game.

0:52:49.360 --> 0:52:50.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I don't know.

0:52:50.760 --> 0:52:55.520
<v Speaker 1>We can't be like everyone else. You just go you

0:52:55.560 --> 0:52:57.040
<v Speaker 1>see to put a few back.

0:52:57.360 --> 0:53:00.600
<v Speaker 2>We have Ken Monster come through the student. Yeah, he

0:53:00.760 --> 0:53:05.920
<v Speaker 2>eats like bloody, what's the hungry jacks, big burger.

0:53:05.680 --> 0:53:09.560
<v Speaker 3>The whopper. He just puts them away like it's different.

0:53:09.600 --> 0:53:11.680
<v Speaker 2>I reckon the big boys over at the NRL. They

0:53:11.680 --> 0:53:12.680
<v Speaker 2>get to put on a bit of mass.

0:53:12.760 --> 0:53:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they put on a bit more mass. I think

0:53:14.640 --> 0:53:15.520
<v Speaker 1>we try to run it off.

0:53:15.520 --> 0:53:16.920
<v Speaker 3>We need the protein.

0:53:18.400 --> 0:53:18.759
<v Speaker 1>We did.

0:53:18.960 --> 0:53:21.799
<v Speaker 2>Last thing we talked about the fly, I spoke about

0:53:21.880 --> 0:53:24.440
<v Speaker 2>how you'll just sit and you'll watch the finals and

0:53:24.520 --> 0:53:26.359
<v Speaker 2>let it burn. And yeah, you're actually going to watch

0:53:26.360 --> 0:53:27.680
<v Speaker 2>the finals, so you probably just skip that.

0:53:28.680 --> 0:53:30.759
<v Speaker 1>Jeez. I don't know if I have access in Europe. Yeah,

0:53:30.800 --> 0:53:33.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go over to Croatia for about seven days,

0:53:33.120 --> 0:53:36.120
<v Speaker 1>do a bit of the sailing thing. Is your family then, yeah,

0:53:36.160 --> 0:53:37.680
<v Speaker 1>the brothers are gonna come with me. So I'm going

0:53:37.719 --> 0:53:40.600
<v Speaker 1>to do Croatia and then we go over to Milan

0:53:41.160 --> 0:53:43.160
<v Speaker 1>or take a train up to Como, do that like

0:53:43.320 --> 0:53:45.400
<v Speaker 1>Coma for a few days, and then my brothers are

0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:47.360
<v Speaker 1>meeting me and the Dolomites in Italy. So we're going

0:53:47.400 --> 0:53:49.040
<v Speaker 1>to do a bit of hiking and some high altitude

0:53:49.080 --> 0:53:51.719
<v Speaker 1>training over there, which would be good. For about a

0:53:51.719 --> 0:53:53.560
<v Speaker 1>week and then we'll finish up at October first and

0:53:53.640 --> 0:53:55.400
<v Speaker 1>maybe at Barron Munich Stadium game.

0:53:56.760 --> 0:53:58.640
<v Speaker 3>To do your conditioning well.

0:53:58.640 --> 0:54:00.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we'll be doing a week of high before then,

0:54:00.719 --> 0:54:02.920
<v Speaker 1>so I think I'll be able to work it off.

0:54:03.840 --> 0:54:05.200
<v Speaker 1>And now I'll go back to Austin, go back to

0:54:05.239 --> 0:54:07.360
<v Speaker 1>see the family, spends a quality time with them, obviously

0:54:07.440 --> 0:54:10.160
<v Speaker 1>being gone from them for so long, and it'd be good.

0:54:10.239 --> 0:54:12.080
<v Speaker 1>It'd be good. I'll spend most more time in Austin,

0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:14.759
<v Speaker 1>Texas as my brother at his house, and you know,

0:54:14.760 --> 0:54:16.759
<v Speaker 1>I've got a good kind of training regime there that

0:54:16.760 --> 0:54:19.080
<v Speaker 1>I've done for over the last few years. So kind

0:54:19.120 --> 0:54:20.759
<v Speaker 1>of do that and go to the u S I

0:54:20.840 --> 0:54:22.680
<v Speaker 1>f L shout out to them, the brothers will play that,

0:54:22.880 --> 0:54:24.600
<v Speaker 1>do the national tournament there, which would be good fun,

0:54:25.160 --> 0:54:27.520
<v Speaker 1>and then just kind of support a f L international

0:54:27.560 --> 0:54:28.719
<v Speaker 1>and try to build the game over there.

0:54:28.840 --> 0:54:32.280
<v Speaker 3>His Raser doing his last round of international football.

0:54:32.360 --> 0:54:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I was furious. I don't think he is, was the man, like,

0:54:35.080 --> 0:54:36.640
<v Speaker 1>who's going to come? He's like, I don't know, man.

0:54:36.680 --> 0:54:37.919
<v Speaker 1>I was like, it's not going to be the same

0:54:37.960 --> 0:54:38.360
<v Speaker 1>without you.

0:54:39.120 --> 0:54:43.560
<v Speaker 2>Celebrations that's good me and how horrow will probably head

0:54:43.560 --> 0:54:46.800
<v Speaker 2>back to Rachie. Yeah, same time for a weekend or whatever.

0:54:48.360 --> 0:54:50.160
<v Speaker 2>I went out, did the one thousand steps out of

0:54:50.239 --> 0:54:54.040
<v Speaker 2>Dandy Ung's basically. Yeah, well we get we're both getting hiking.

0:54:55.200 --> 0:54:58.600
<v Speaker 2>Get into it, jump into finals predictions before we wrap

0:54:58.640 --> 0:54:58.920
<v Speaker 2>it up.

0:54:59.360 --> 0:55:00.520
<v Speaker 1>U v.

0:55:00.640 --> 0:55:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Geelong in Adelaide, Western Bulldogs v. Hawthorne at the MCG,

0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Sydney v GWS it the SCG Brisbane Carlton at the Gabba.

0:55:09.040 --> 0:55:11.440
<v Speaker 3>That kicks us all off. But who are you tipping?

0:55:12.000 --> 0:55:13.800
<v Speaker 3>We'll pick the tips.

0:55:13.480 --> 0:55:15.640
<v Speaker 2>And then we'll just pick who we think is winning

0:55:15.640 --> 0:55:18.560
<v Speaker 2>the flag, and that's how we'll wrap it up.

0:55:18.640 --> 0:55:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I've got Port versus John got to Port Adelaide. Incredible,

0:55:23.160 --> 0:55:26.080
<v Speaker 1>incredible team. I think honestly Port Adelaide is going to

0:55:26.120 --> 0:55:28.320
<v Speaker 1>win the whole thing. Yeah, and I would love to

0:55:28.320 --> 0:55:30.120
<v Speaker 1>see it because they've been up there for so long. They've

0:55:30.160 --> 0:55:32.600
<v Speaker 1>had their chances and they've just missed out or missed

0:55:32.600 --> 0:55:34.799
<v Speaker 1>out by kick here and there, whoever it is. This year,

0:55:34.840 --> 0:55:37.200
<v Speaker 1>they've got the momentum, they've got the team, they've got

0:55:37.200 --> 0:55:39.760
<v Speaker 1>a home final, they've got everything that's kind of falling

0:55:39.840 --> 0:55:41.520
<v Speaker 1>in place for him. If they can win this game

0:55:41.520 --> 0:55:43.560
<v Speaker 1>against Graelong. It's tough not to pick them for the

0:55:43.560 --> 0:55:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Grand Final winner.

0:55:45.000 --> 0:55:47.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well they Yeah, they're going to get a home

0:55:47.600 --> 0:55:49.920
<v Speaker 2>pre lim if they win this, and then good luck

0:55:49.960 --> 0:55:51.160
<v Speaker 2>going over there and beating them.

0:55:51.280 --> 0:55:54.680
<v Speaker 1>So I've got who do you have in that game? Port? Yeah,

0:55:55.239 --> 0:55:57.440
<v Speaker 1>you go the Western Western Bulldogs versus Hawthorn. This is

0:55:57.440 --> 0:56:00.239
<v Speaker 1>an interesting one because it's the two informed teams are

0:56:00.360 --> 0:56:02.239
<v Speaker 1>not really been in finals over the last four or

0:56:02.280 --> 0:56:05.960
<v Speaker 1>five years, so young lest first experience doing it, very

0:56:06.040 --> 0:56:10.560
<v Speaker 1>hyped up, very motivated at the moment. Western Bulldogs experienced team,

0:56:10.640 --> 0:56:12.800
<v Speaker 1>have players that kind of played in the Grand Final

0:56:12.840 --> 0:56:16.120
<v Speaker 1>in twenty sixteen, and you'll rely on their kind of

0:56:16.160 --> 0:56:20.080
<v Speaker 1>wealth of knowledge through this little period. At the MCG

0:56:20.160 --> 0:56:22.000
<v Speaker 1>talked about that with the Bulldogs being a home game

0:56:22.040 --> 0:56:27.880
<v Speaker 1>for them, interesting little choice. I'm going to go, oh jeez,

0:56:28.640 --> 0:56:30.680
<v Speaker 1>it sounds crazy to say Hawthorn.

0:56:31.600 --> 0:56:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, after all you just said all of that stuff.

0:56:34.280 --> 0:56:38.040
<v Speaker 1>I think I just love the way they're playing right now. Yeah,

0:56:38.520 --> 0:56:39.239
<v Speaker 1>it's so good.

0:56:39.719 --> 0:56:44.080
<v Speaker 2>They're so like they're undeniable at the moment. It'd be

0:56:44.120 --> 0:56:47.200
<v Speaker 2>interesting to see if they can just have them like

0:56:47.920 --> 0:56:50.359
<v Speaker 2>the belief that, like why not us, we can win this?

0:56:50.400 --> 0:56:51.640
<v Speaker 2>We can go all the way through and we can

0:56:51.719 --> 0:56:54.319
<v Speaker 2>just win it. I think I'm going to go the

0:56:54.320 --> 0:56:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Bulldogs just purely on half the stuff you said around,

0:56:57.920 --> 0:57:00.279
<v Speaker 2>Like you've got ads Chi Law who's done it, You've

0:57:00.280 --> 0:57:02.439
<v Speaker 2>got Bond who's done it. You've got Libo who's done

0:57:02.480 --> 0:57:06.920
<v Speaker 2>it like experience, and then the youth coming in the

0:57:06.960 --> 0:57:09.839
<v Speaker 2>forward line. Plus you got Lobb back who's like short

0:57:09.920 --> 0:57:12.520
<v Speaker 2>up their defense. But yeah, the forward line, if you

0:57:12.560 --> 0:57:14.600
<v Speaker 2>get only one of them has to kick off. We

0:57:14.680 --> 0:57:17.040
<v Speaker 2>saw Sam Darcy have seven the other week and it's

0:57:17.080 --> 0:57:17.720
<v Speaker 2>like you do that.

0:57:17.920 --> 0:57:20.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sorry, Luke, Luke.

0:57:21.040 --> 0:57:24.520
<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna go Weston Bulldogs Sydney GWS. I on

0:57:24.600 --> 0:57:27.360
<v Speaker 2>GWS s juicy, I love this one. I'm on GWS.

0:57:27.400 --> 0:57:30.120
<v Speaker 2>If they can get Toby Bedford back and Brett Daniels

0:57:30.120 --> 0:57:31.720
<v Speaker 2>back lock them in.

0:57:32.200 --> 0:57:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Okay, but then Sydney's got a few backs too.

0:57:34.640 --> 0:57:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I just like GWS is like in absolute form. Yeah,

0:57:39.000 --> 0:57:41.040
<v Speaker 2>they lost to the Bulldogs, but it was without those

0:57:41.080 --> 0:57:43.640
<v Speaker 2>two players who are super pivotal to how they play.

0:57:44.520 --> 0:57:47.360
<v Speaker 2>But they're killing them in terms of form. They've been

0:57:47.960 --> 0:57:50.640
<v Speaker 2>one of the most informed teams up there with Hawthorne.

0:57:51.360 --> 0:57:54.160
<v Speaker 1>This is the thing if WS wins this game, grand

0:57:54.200 --> 0:57:58.439
<v Speaker 1>final for sure, form like, yeah, has to be right

0:57:58.480 --> 0:58:00.880
<v Speaker 1>because then they get the home final. Yeah, and then

0:58:01.240 --> 0:58:03.520
<v Speaker 1>from there they make the Grand Final.

0:58:03.520 --> 0:58:07.200
<v Speaker 3>I'd say they play their home final SCG.

0:58:07.760 --> 0:58:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Now it'd have to be in the suburbs of the Paddock.

0:58:11.800 --> 0:58:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh, we don't want to they will they have time

0:58:13.840 --> 0:58:16.280
<v Speaker 2>stamp this time stamped it.

0:58:16.600 --> 0:58:18.880
<v Speaker 3>You said it again, three.

0:58:18.720 --> 0:58:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Point fifty Monday afternoon.

0:58:20.800 --> 0:58:21.920
<v Speaker 3>Twenty sixth of August.

0:58:22.560 --> 0:58:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Ah, yeah, the stadium called do we even know ng

0:58:27.360 --> 0:58:29.919
<v Speaker 1>G n G stadium? That's what they're going to play.

0:58:29.960 --> 0:58:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Sorry about the calling that has charged.

0:58:33.640 --> 0:58:37.640
<v Speaker 3>It's changed a few times. It was spotless. Ah, so yeah,

0:58:37.680 --> 0:58:38.200
<v Speaker 3>are you going to.

0:58:38.280 --> 0:58:40.360
<v Speaker 1>The showgrounds that's where they Yeah, you can get that out.

0:58:40.400 --> 0:58:42.520
<v Speaker 2>Are you going just put a bleep just they know

0:58:42.560 --> 0:58:44.560
<v Speaker 2>what it is?

0:58:44.600 --> 0:58:45.800
<v Speaker 3>Sydney or GWS.

0:58:45.920 --> 0:58:47.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go to Sydney in this game at the

0:58:47.520 --> 0:58:49.000
<v Speaker 1>SEG purely home ground.

0:58:49.520 --> 0:58:50.800
<v Speaker 3>But they've been the best team all year.

0:58:50.840 --> 0:58:53.320
<v Speaker 1>They've been best team all year. They finished pretty strong.

0:58:53.840 --> 0:58:56.640
<v Speaker 1>I've just got this feeling a week of just refreshment

0:58:57.240 --> 0:59:00.200
<v Speaker 1>is going to do them wonders. And then they hit

0:59:00.240 --> 0:59:05.000
<v Speaker 1>this kind of last chunk with confidence. Yeah, especially if

0:59:05.000 --> 0:59:08.080
<v Speaker 1>they win this game, I don't see them not making

0:59:08.080 --> 0:59:09.760
<v Speaker 1>the Grand Final. I say, whoever wins this game is

0:59:09.800 --> 0:59:10.520
<v Speaker 1>making the Grand Final.

0:59:10.520 --> 0:59:12.480
<v Speaker 2>They need to get some defense back up and running

0:59:12.520 --> 0:59:14.439
<v Speaker 2>because if they're kicking it up there to Toby Green

0:59:14.560 --> 0:59:21.040
<v Speaker 2>and Jesse Hogan, who's on absolute fire. Good luck Brisbane, Carlton, Brisbane.

0:59:21.840 --> 0:59:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, Carlton fans, I think you can understand where we're

0:59:25.120 --> 0:59:28.960
<v Speaker 1>coming from. Six of the last nine, you've lost the three,

0:59:29.040 --> 0:59:32.920
<v Speaker 1>you've only won bottom three teams. Let's be realistic. Momentum

0:59:32.960 --> 0:59:33.880
<v Speaker 1>is probably not on your side.

0:59:33.880 --> 0:59:36.240
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you if they kick eleven goals twenty one again,

0:59:36.440 --> 0:59:38.920
<v Speaker 2>it's anyone's game because you can't be kicking that.

0:59:40.480 --> 0:59:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Not the away game. I feel like Carlton, Look, I

0:59:44.640 --> 0:59:46.840
<v Speaker 1>think the fans are in the same boat. They're going Look,

0:59:46.960 --> 0:59:48.600
<v Speaker 1>obviously we're in the eight, we're open for the best,

0:59:48.600 --> 0:59:51.560
<v Speaker 1>but I wouldn't say the confidence is too high. Who

0:59:51.600 --> 0:59:52.600
<v Speaker 1>do you have in the Grand Final? Then?

0:59:52.720 --> 0:59:55.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, obviously you go on Brisbane this one. Yeah, yeah.

0:59:55.240 --> 0:59:59.200
<v Speaker 2>And then I think Port GWS, which on paper doesn't

0:59:59.240 --> 1:00:00.640
<v Speaker 2>sound very advertising.

1:00:01.240 --> 1:00:05.200
<v Speaker 1>That sounds like probably the worst situation the AFL could

1:00:05.200 --> 1:00:07.320
<v Speaker 1>have asked for. Out of all those eight teams as

1:00:07.320 --> 1:00:08.520
<v Speaker 1>far as audience.

1:00:08.400 --> 1:00:11.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, see I think I look at Geelong,

1:00:11.520 --> 1:00:15.600
<v Speaker 2>I haven't been that convinced by them all year. Hawthorne

1:00:16.040 --> 1:00:18.560
<v Speaker 2>would love to see it, but also I'm happy to

1:00:18.600 --> 1:00:20.600
<v Speaker 2>see that it's before their time. They had a big

1:00:20.680 --> 1:00:23.040
<v Speaker 2>run of flags. You can you can have a you

1:00:23.080 --> 1:00:25.920
<v Speaker 2>can have a build a year. Western Bulldogs would love

1:00:25.920 --> 1:00:29.720
<v Speaker 2>to see it. Ads like love watching ads play footy.

1:00:30.720 --> 1:00:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Sydney used to be a die hard Sydney fan wouldn't

1:00:34.000 --> 1:00:35.040
<v Speaker 2>mind it either, to be honest.

1:00:35.040 --> 1:00:36.240
<v Speaker 1>We'd love Brodie Grundy to get it.

1:00:36.400 --> 1:00:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, battle, It would be great to see Sydney get

1:00:39.600 --> 1:00:40.560
<v Speaker 2>up there get the win.

1:00:42.120 --> 1:00:42.920
<v Speaker 3>For Kenny really.

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<v Speaker 2>But Brisbane they're a good team, couldn't get it done

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<v Speaker 2>last year. They've had a run of finals. Imagine if

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<v Speaker 2>they did it from outside the top four after all that.

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<v Speaker 3>They've been through. So it'll be great, it'll be It's

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<v Speaker 3>be interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon it's a competitive top eight in the end,

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<v Speaker 2>because I didn't think we're going to settle there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think probably the two weakest teams on paper of

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<v Speaker 2>Geelong and Carlton, and watch that come back to bite

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<v Speaker 2>me because I love their baltimate great, just make it through.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just what Geelong does.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got the experience Tom it comes back. Who knows

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<v Speaker 1>well to say Anyway, that's all we got for the year.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it for the year. We've got one more coming.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a fan question. We want to give back.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to give back to the fans because this is,

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<v Speaker 1>like I mean, this is what we do it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>entertain people and to have them involved, to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to answer all the burning questions they've been thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>all year and give a bit of a wrap up

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<v Speaker 1>to the whole season. It's going to be fun next

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<v Speaker 1>week coming up.

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<v Speaker 3>I love questions, they're the best.

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<v Speaker 1>They sometimes it get a bit loose, to get a

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<v Speaker 1>bit sideways. Get more fans of that big fans. But

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<v Speaker 1>that is it for us as far as you know.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode so massive, massive, thank you for listening in

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<v Speaker 1>tuning into the whole thing. And I just want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>as always, follow us on social media, subscribe all that

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<v Speaker 1>supporter of us, the podcast and everything we're doing. So

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<v Speaker 1>you're an absolute legend. Whoever's listening to this, I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you have an incredible day And sorry there's no footing

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<v Speaker 1>next week, say he lot Feace.