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Speaker 1: This is jem Nation.

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Speaker 2: We're Jones.

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Speaker 1: When you're a teenager, you have no perspective on anything.

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Speaker 1: Every drama is seen at the same level. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's an example from my life that I've seen going

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Speaker 1: back through my diary from those times I had a friend.

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Speaker 1: I started my diary because I had a friend who

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Speaker 1: passed away from leukemia when I was about fifteen or sixteen,

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Speaker 1: which is a big deal, a huge deal, a huge deal.

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Speaker 1: But alongside that, I had my wisdom teeth out and

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Speaker 1: my face was all swollen up, and a friend of

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Speaker 1: my brothers who I liked was coming over and that

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Speaker 1: was a big deal. And it's only going back through

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Speaker 1: the diary, I thought, oh, your poor thing. Everything is

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Speaker 1: everything is full tilt. Some of it deserves full tilt

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Speaker 1: because it's life changing, and some of it just isn't.

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Speaker 1: And when you're a kid, you can't tell the difference

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Speaker 1: I've been. I just saw a bit of Jamie Lee

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Speaker 1: Curtis yesterday. I really rate her. She has a new

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Speaker 1: podcast called Letters from Camp, and one of the things

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Speaker 1: she spoke about, and this might have been something she

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Speaker 1: learned at camp, because she talks about her own exp experiences,

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Speaker 1: but this is an interesting way to look at it,

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Speaker 1: and as adults too, whether we need this for ourselves

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Speaker 1: or to help our children through things. This is a

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Speaker 1: way that she said, It's a good way of taking

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Speaker 1: a breath and getting some perspective.

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Speaker 2: Here's the only other big advice. One you can compartmentalize

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Speaker 2: any drama into. The five rule is whatever is going

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Speaker 2: on going to affect me for five seconds, five minutes,

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Speaker 2: five hours, five days, five months, or five years. If

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Speaker 2: it's going to affect your life for five years, that

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Speaker 2: demands all hands on deck, get every adult you know

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Speaker 2: to circle around this problem, whatever it is. But if

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Speaker 2: it's going to affect your life for five seconds.

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Speaker 1: Not that big of a deal. It's interesting way of

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Speaker 1: looking at it, isn't it. Like Let's go to the

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Speaker 1: teachings of the Brady Bunch for example. Yep, remember when

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Speaker 1: Marsha was going on a date and gets bunked in

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Speaker 1: the nose.

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Speaker 3: With a ball and a nose swells up.

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Speaker 1: And that was she thought that was the end of

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Speaker 1: her life, as she knows it. Well, we know, no,

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Speaker 1: it's not.

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Speaker 3: That's fine.

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Speaker 1: But Greg gets busted smoking they weren't his cigarettes, remember,

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Speaker 1: but he thought he'd been busted smoking. What if that

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Speaker 1: had stopped him getting into college? Blah blah blah. That's

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Speaker 1: a big family drama and that deserves circling the wagons

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Speaker 1: because that could affect the next five years of your life.

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Speaker 3: Sure, sure, sure a good way to look at it.

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Speaker 3: When Peter was doing the impersonation of pork jobs and

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Speaker 3: apple sauce so people would like him more, say he

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Speaker 3: was trying to be someone else, not himself.

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Speaker 1: But he's learning a lesson. That wasn't a moment of crisis.

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Speaker 1: See this is if you're having a crisis, Take a

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Speaker 1: breath and think what level of crisis is it, because

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Speaker 1: when you're in the crisis, you can't tell whether this

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Speaker 1: is big or small. Take a step back and go,

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Speaker 1: this is a five minute, this is a five month

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Speaker 1: and I'll deal with it with those emotions or if

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Speaker 1: it's a big one, as she says, circle the wagon, my.

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Speaker 3: Beloved garbage disposal break down on the weekend.

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Speaker 1: You you are capable and are financially adept enough enough

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Speaker 1: to go and buy a new one. This isn't even

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Speaker 1: a crisis.

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Speaker 3: But how do I get rid of I've got leftover

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Speaker 3: pad from the shindig? You can't just put it in

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Speaker 3: the bins or stink and then that's what.

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Speaker 1: The Take a breath and get some perspective and put

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Speaker 1: that in your own face. I'll push it down the

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Speaker 1: toilet eventually. Yes, Actually, if you're interested in hearing more

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Speaker 1: of that, her podcast series is called Letters from Camp.

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Speaker 3: Nice to have a cup of perspective.