WEBVTT - Let's talk compatibility! 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:22.840 Hi, guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:23.400 on Card. 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:26.520 I'm Brittany and I'm Laura. And guess who's in my 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:27.479 dead Drew. 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:28.880 I think they know it's me. 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:31.160 Brittany is back, Babies. 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:33.560 It's not Jason Momoa, and it's not Laura's hall pass. 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:36.840 It is, in fact, just me. It is not Matt either. 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:40.120 You know, he's often here in my bedroom. Surprising for everyone. 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:43.160 I know, Brittany is back. She's back in old Sydney Town. 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:46.479 She's here in the Eastern suburbs. And I know how 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:48.839 thrilled you are to be back amongst my dirty laundry. 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:51.080 Truly, nothing has changed. 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:53.120 It's honestly like I never left. Like sitting here, this 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:56.600 is our first proper record back together. I actually feel 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:57.720 like I never left. 0:00:57.840 --> 0:00:59.280 I should have made it a bit fancier for you. 0:00:59.280 --> 0:00:59.960 Shouldn't like I could. 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:02.040 I've gotten maybe a champagne, but after the weekend that 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:03.680 I just had, I never fucking want to see a 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:04.400 champagne again. 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:06.600 No, no, do. I we're too old for We both 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:07.320 tried to go out. 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:09.399 It was a disaster. I'm too old. 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:13.160 I'm too My liver is gone, my kidneys, everything, it's 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:14.880 my back hurts. 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:17.119 I came home at midnight to think with the girls. 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:18.720 I went out for dinner. I actually wasn't even gonna go. 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:20.440 I said, I have to prep for this episode tomorrow, 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:21.840 and then like you have to have a life, and 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:23.560 I'm like, fine, I'm coming to dinner, but I need 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:25.600 to go home after that. Thinking in my head i'd be, 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:28.319 i'd eat, I'd be home by nine, nine thirty and 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:30.480 when midnight rolls around, I've got this We've got to 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:32.320 record at eight am that I haven't yet prepped, and 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:34.240 I was like, guys, I need to go home and 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:37.440 do this record now, to go home at midnight start working. 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:39.399 I woke up and I don't have to wake up 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:40.920 to kids. You've got to wake up to kids. 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:43.400 I felt like I had been hit by a semi trailer, 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:45.560 not of us, a semi trailer having. 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:46.920 A hangover when you've got children. 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:50.400 It's just the most like masochistic form of torture, Like 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:51.560 why would you do it? 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:52.400 It's just evil. 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:55.680 But also I am not used to this, and I 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:58.960 think that half of Australia, I mean Melbourn's out of lockdown, 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:00.640 you South Wales' is that of lockdown? 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:03.640 Half of Australia. It's not half is it's it's a 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:04.160 good chunk. 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:05.800 It's a solid chunk of Australia. 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:08.800 Chunk of Australia who's probably still nursing a hangover. But 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:11.040 my hangovers are no longer like one day, and they're 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:14.079 also unjustified. I only had a couple of margaritas and 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:17.680 a glass of wine, and it's like the punishment doesn't 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:18.640 match the crime. 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:19.920 That's how I feel. 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:23.920 You know what your problem is, old, No, that's one two. 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:25.600 You mix margarita's with wine. 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:26.800 Oh yeah, it was a good time. 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:27.000 Though. 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:29.720 You have to pick your lane and stay in your lane. 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:31.840 You can't just be going willing Nelly with spirits and 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:32.760 different cocktails. 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:33.000 I know. 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:34.440 It's like back in the day when I was like 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:36.359 eighteen and I'd mix Membora with white wine. 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:38.399 I'd wake up fine. I was like fifteen years ago. 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:43.760 It's like my used to be, like when I was 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:45.560 young and had a six pack. My sister's like it 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:46.360 was twenty years ago. 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:49.760 Yeah as well. Times have changed, But you know what 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:50.120 I did. 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:52.560 This is what okay, this is my first Is it 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:56.359 a foray or ferrah foray? What is it when you 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:59.120 go out into the world again. I've forgotten because I 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:00.959 haven't been out in the world for a while. Okay, 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:03.040 what we did on Saturday night was we went to 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:06.000 a friend's fortieth birthday party. And her name is Carla. 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:08.840 She was the makeup artist on The Bachelor Laura. 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:11.079 Maybe Carla doesn't want all Australia to know how old she. 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:15.280 Is the fourth true Maybe actually, you know what, she's 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:18.040 living her best life. She's the best. So she's Osher's 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:20.480 makeup artist. And we went to her fortieth which meant 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:22.760 that we had dinner with Osha and Matt Agnew and 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:26.880 it was just this weird bachelor reunion, but also it 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:27.520 was really great. 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:30.560 My boat party too, was also like a weird bachelor reunion. 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:34.000 I was on a boat party incidentally with Holly and Jimmy. 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:36.480 That was interesting because Jimmy Camappen was like hey. 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:39.560 I was like, hey, did you like we matched on Tinder. 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:41.440 I was like hey, I was like hey, so did 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:42.720 you tell hollywe matched on Tinder? 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:44.080 He was like yeah, and I was like cool. 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:51.320 And then it was just like this that were really great? 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:52.000 Was it was? 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:53.880 It was fine, but I was like this first moment 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:55.680 of like cool, like I feel like we know each other, 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:56.760 but we've never actually met. 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:57.720 Now we matched. 0:03:57.840 --> 0:03:59.440 He's like, yeah, you ghosted me, and I'm like, cool, 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:01.280 I did that too, and then she was there and 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:03.680 it was an interesting triangle. 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:05.680 How does it feel to have the upper hand to 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:08.920 know that I go to the Bachelor you ghosted Australia's 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:10.560 most eligible man this year. 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.840 I said to him, Look or in hindsight, everything happens 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:16.159 for a reason. Imagine who knows what would have happened 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:18.520 if we didn't go. You might never have met Holly. 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:20.719 So you maybe have been dating the kinky Captain, could 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:23.840 have happened. No, but it's always okay. It sounds I 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:25.440 feel like we sound like wankers, being like, yeah, we 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:27.680 feel like had Bachelor reunions. 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:29.680 It is always weird. 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:33.479 I find seeing people from the Bachelor franchise outside of 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:35.200 the Bachelor environment so weird. 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:37.240 I would never intentionally put myself in that situation. 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:41.200 Yeah, we're but guys, we actually, I mean, we've got 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:43.080 an awesome episode for you today. This is a bit 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:46.440 of a different one. We're talking about compatibility on this episode, 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:49.080 but it was I don't know, it kind of started 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:50.919 off that we wanted to talk about how important is 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:54.720 compatibility in a relationship, like how do you navigate when 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:57.200 things are different? And then we thought, actually, let's touch 0:04:57.240 --> 0:05:00.600 on a few different types of incompatibility and to couples 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:04.880 who maybe conventionally people might look at their relationship and go, oh, 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:06.800 how do they make that work? So in order to 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.840 unpack this whole concept around compatibility, we also wanted to 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:11.520 reach out to you guys, to the listeners and if 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:14.359 you're following us on Instagram, we put up some stories 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:17.000 and we did a call out. Basically, we wanted to 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:21.480 know who of you are in relationships where compatibility has 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:23.560 been a part of the conversations that you had to 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:26.679 have early on. For example, if you're navigating into faith 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:30.680 or interracial relationships, just two people who have come together 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:35.000 from significantly different backgrounds and overcome or made it work. 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:36.800 So we do have a couple of people on the 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:38.960 podcast today to tell their stories. We're going to get 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:40.320 into that a little bit later and we're going to 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:42.800 unpack the whole conversation around compatibility. 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:44.440 But before we do that. 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.359 We want to talk about what everybody is talking about. 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:52.400 Alec Baldwin, holy shit, holy. 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:55.120 Shit, it's insane and I buy Now. Surely you guys 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:57.640 have heard and you've had this conversation with your friends 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:00.680 or you're hearing everyone talk about it. But Alex was on 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:03.320 the set of one of his films and he accidentally 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:07.880 shot and killed somebody. He shot and killed a crew 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.280 member with a prop gun. So this is a gun 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:12.640 that obviously was not supposed to have any live ammunition 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:15.080 in it. It is supposed to be able to be shot, 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:18.120 and nothing actually happens, but it looks like a real gun. 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:20.359 Everybody in the industry is up in Ar'm saying, I 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:23.279 don't know how this could have possibly happened. How could 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:25.039 this have gotten through all the checks that was supposed 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:27.000 to get to to get to the point that a 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.400 gun is fired on set and kill somebody. 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:30.880 And there are so many. 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:33.000 Aspects to this that are captivating the world. There are 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:35.320 so many discussions coming off the back of this about 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:39.000 set safety and how this happened. But I just I 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:40.520 can't get my head around it. I tried to put 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:43.200 myself in his position. Could you imagine what Alec Bald 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:44.240 wanted to be feeling right now? 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:45.240 Oh man? 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:48.279 Like, I mean, apart from like the complete and utter 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:52.720 distress and heartbreak, like he killed somebody, whether or not 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:55.599 it was a mistake or an accident, all of those 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:58.159 things aside. Imagine living the rest of your life knowing 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:00.680 that an accident that was made was altered in you 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:03.840 killing someone. And now Alec Baldwin is an actor on 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:06.120 this the movie is called Rust. He's an actor on 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:09.000 the set obviously, but he's also the producer, so his 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:12.360 level of liability in this whole scenario goes beyond just 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:14.760 being an actor who has handed a prop gun. But 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:17.360 we went down a rabbit hole. 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:18.480 With this, like really did? 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:21.440 I am stuck deep in the warren because it is 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:25.080 just it is so fascinating as much as it is heartbreaking. 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:27.760 It is fascinating and there are so many different facets 0:07:27.800 --> 0:07:30.880 to this story, and every day more information is coming out. 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:33.240 But just to give you guys an overview in case 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:35.240 you know, maybe you've heard of it or you've seen 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:38.280 the headlines, but you haven't actually read the story. The 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:41.000 woman's name was Hala Hutchins. She's forty two years old. 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:42.760 She has a nine year old son, and she was 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:45.880 a cinematographer on set. And when it comes to movie 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:49.720 sets that have guns as part of their props. There 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:53.240 are so many safety regulations that are supposed to be 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:57.400 put in place, so many that it seems completely unfathomable 0:07:57.440 --> 0:07:59.960 that something like this would have happened. Now there is 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:01.760 there's been some reports of people have come out and 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:04.480 said for this to happen, there must have been a 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:09.240 great deal of neglect around safety and precautions because it 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:11.920 just doesn't make sense. And there have been a few 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:14.640 key players in this story where they're trying to unpack 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:17.720 where their responsibility lies. A couple of people that are 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:20.360 important to mention are the gun armorer. So they have 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:23.640 a dedicated senior gun armorer on set. Her name was 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:26.960 Hannah Guziera Read. She's twenty four years old, and she 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:29.760 is responsible for checking the guns, making sure that it 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:33.160 has blanks loaded. She's the one that's responsible for calling 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.960 the safety precautions on set every day whenever a gun 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:38.640 is on set. And then there is also another man, 0:08:38.760 --> 0:08:41.480 and that is the assistant director, Dave Halls. Dave Halls 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:43.600 is basically the guy who put the gun in Ali 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:46.199 Borwyn's hand. He was the one that called cold gun 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:48.520 on set, and cold gun is basically the term that's 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:50.360 used whenever there is a prop gun or any gun 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:53.920 that's on set, and it is supposed to identify that 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:56.040 it's been through all the safety checks and that there 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:57.720 are no rounds in the gun at all, and the 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:01.160 rounds that are usually used would be blanks. Ammunition is 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:04.360 never allowed on set, so the fact that this even 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:07.000 had real live ammunition in it is just a whole 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:08.120 other level of crazy. 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:10.880 Then that gets to another level. So this once you 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:13.200 started digging, so many things keep coming out. Now there 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:16.120 is a woman named Maggie Goll. Maggie Goll is a 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:19.160 prop maker and a licensed proto technician. Now, she had 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:22.720 filed an internal complaint with the executive producers of Hulu's 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:25.520 Into the Dark TV series back in twenty nineteen, and 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:29.079 this was over concerns about assistant director Dave Hall's conduct 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:31.280 on set. So this same man that handed the gun 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.840 that actually had the ammunition in it to Alec Baldwin 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.680 had already had a complaint put in about him two 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:40.440 years earlier about the same thing. She alleged in an 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:43.720 interview that Hall's had previously not followed safety protocols for 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:46.320 weapons and proto technics when she worked alongside him in 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:47.000 the TV series. 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:47.880 So two years ago. 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:49.880 This has already come out saying, look, something's not right. 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:51.800 He's not doing what he's supposed to do with his 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:55.280 gun safety. Now he is just one person. Then we 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:57.520 have Hannah, who Laura just mentioned. So she's the other 0:09:57.559 --> 0:09:59.839 person whose sole job, that is her job, that is 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:03.480 the reason she is on set. She's literally the armorer. 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:05.640 That is her whole purpose to be there is to 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:08.520 make sure that everything is loaded properly, everything is safe, 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:11.640 the gun's are ready. It's also come out that not 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:15.240 that long ago, she was on a podcast herself talking 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:18.520 about her experience in her job, talking about what she 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:20.959 has to do, and she actually stated that she didn't 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:23.560 feel ready to be taking on the level of responsibility 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:26.840 that she had been taking on recently. So she's come 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:28.880 out and said, like, these are really crazy jobs. I 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:31.079 don't feel like I'm really ready for that. But somehow 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:33.760 she has ended up on this set, she has ended 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:36.280 up running it. She's a head armorer, she's the daughter 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:38.679 of one of the world's best armorers. And this has 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:41.600 happened so so far, we've got two to three people 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:45.080 where this live bullet, this live ammunition has somehow made 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:47.640 it through these people into a gun into the hands 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:52.360 Valley Baldwin. How this is happening still is beyond everybody. 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:54.760 And also in regards to Hannah. So I mean when 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:56.480 I say we went into a rabbit's born, on this, 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:59.840 we went into a rabbit's orn. So Hannah being the gun. 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:03.839 She also has a very checkered past. And now she's 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:06.200 only twenty four years old, she's new to the industry. 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:09.840 As Britches said, she felt completely unprepared and like she 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:12.520 didn't have the experience to be put into the position 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:16.360 of head armorer. So Hannah previously on another job which 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:18.880 only just recently wrapped filming. It was called the Old 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:22.079 Way film. They had to holp filming on that because 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:25.040 she was responsible for giving an eleven year old boy 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:26.960 a fully loaded gun. 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:28.000 So she has. 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:30.680 Already pied like you've got one job, Hannah, mate, check 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:33.120 the gun, Like are we kidding anyway? 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.720 So there's just so many levels. 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:37.880 Here where there have been like people screwing up on 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:41.400 their jobs, not taking health and safety into consideration. Other 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:44.480 crew members had already walked out over concerns of health 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:45.000 and safety. 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:46.400 They had already walked out. 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:48.920 Because of thirteen hour work days. And I know the 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:51.800 big question that everybody is asking that doesn't have an 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:54.280 answer to it yet is how the hell does live 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:57.600 ammunition get into a prop gun. But secondly, I think 0:11:57.640 --> 0:11:59.800 the other big question that people need to ask is 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.880 what sort of liability does Alec Baldwin have beyond just 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:06.120 being the actor who pulled the trigger? If he is 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:09.800 the producer of this film, what is his responsibility when 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:11.040 it comes to health and safety. 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:14.520 Yeah, just six hours before the actual shooting, a whole 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:16.720 bunch of crew members walked off not only for poor 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:19.600 working conditions, Laura, but actually because there was actually an 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:22.840 incident where a prop gun was accidentally misfired earlier in 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:26.120 the filming, So they'd actually already had an incident with 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:29.320 gun relations. So there were people on set that were like, 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:31.120 this is crazy, we don't want to be here anymore. 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:34.600 Six hours before this unfortunate event unfolded. 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:36.199 Now, Britt and I had a bit of a debate 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:38.360 about this, Like we had a heated debate on the 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:40.480 phone before, because Britt was like, I feel sorry for 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:42.600 Alec Baldwin, and I don't think it's at all his 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:45.160 responsibility or his fault. I feel very sorry for Ali 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:47.959 Baldwin and of course I feel sorry for Alec Baldwin. 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:50.720 I feel incredibly sorry for him. But I do think 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:53.120 when there is health and safety issues in a workplace 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:56.360 and it's already been voiced, that has to be managed 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:58.960 from top tier, right like it is the people who 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:02.319 are in charge. It's the CEOs of companies, its producers 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:05.680 on set. It is their responsibility to ensure that the 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:08.280 safety and the environment that their crew are working in 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:11.960 is not compromised. And if you have your staff essentially 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:16.960 working extreme hours they're fatigued. How can you then not 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:20.520 take some responsibility when people are not doing their jobs properly. 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:22.240 And I think the big issue that I have with 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:25.920 this whole thing is that people had already voiced their 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.959 concerns for it. Now there has actually been some more 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.400 reports that came out today and this was reported in TMZ. 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:32.800 I just want to tell you this because this is 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:36.240 a fucking wild guys. The prop gun that killed cinematographer 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:39.679 Hala Hutchins on New Mexico movie set had been used 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:42.800 by crew members off site for fun, and new report 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:45.679 claims the gun, which was fired by Alec Borwan on 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.120 set of the movie Russ, may have even been loaded 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:50.800 with live rounds when it was used for was essentially 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:54.880 target practice. Multiple sources connected to the production and the 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.520 film told TMZ that the gun was fired at off 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:01.040 the clock gatherings, which could explain how round found its 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:05.520 way into the gun's chambers. This is wild, and I 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:09.320 think is something huge like this happening in a very 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:12.840 public setting doesn't do something for gun reform, and at 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:16.040 least gun reform in these sorts of scenarios, I would 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:19.000 be very surprised, because it's just devastating that at the 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:20.800 end of the day, a forty two year old mother 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:23.160 with a nine year old boy has lost her life 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:25.120 and a little boy has become motherless. 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:27.840 Yeah, and on top of that, I mean that would 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:30.000 make sense if those allegations are true that they were 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.640 using the gun off site for target practice, that would 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:35.360 make absolute sense. But what that also means is that 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:38.600 the armorah didn't check it again before she handed the gun. 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:41.240 So maybe she's checked it a day earlier, maybe she 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:43.200 checked it in the morning. But I feel like this 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:45.280 sort of thing comes down to when you were physically 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:46.280 about to hand the gun over. 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:48.480 I feel like that's when it should be checked. Now 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:49.760 in regards to Alec Baldwin. 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:51.760 Okay, yes this is I was like, I have one 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:53.600 more thing to say about the Alec Baldwin think I 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:54.040 want to know. 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:57.400 In regards to Alec Baldwin, I do not think that 0:14:57.480 --> 0:14:59.200 he is at fault. I think what has happened to 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:01.720 him he could very well be charged for manslaughter, which 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:05.080 is obviously when something tragic like this has happened. But 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:08.320 there has never been any intent. But it is not 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:11.440 his job. And anyone that says it is his job 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:13.560 to have checked that gun, that's that's not what he's 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:15.520 there for. That is not what he's employed for. He's 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:17.920 employed as an actor, and he's employed as a producer. 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:21.000 Now for people saying that it's a producer's role, it's 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:21.680 actually not. 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:22.680 It is actually not. 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:24.160 A producer's job to do this. 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:26.720 I want to tell you the difference between a producer 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:29.880 and a director. So a producer, which is what Alec 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:32.440 Baldwin is, is the person responsible for like finding and 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:36.320 launching the project, so they find funding and things like that. 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:38.720 They hire the writers, they hire the directors, they hire 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:40.960 key members, and they're involved in like the pre production, 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:42.600 the production and the pros production. 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:43.680 The director is. 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:46.240 A man named Joel Susa. Now the part we haven't 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:48.880 told you yet is Joel Susa was also shot. He 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:50.960 hasn't died, but he was injured in this as well, 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:52.840 so he's also in hospital. He was shot because he 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:55.080 was standing behind. He was shot on the shoulder, Yeah, 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:57.920 which is just horrific. But the director, which is Joel, 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:01.640 the man that was shot. A director is usually employed 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:05.400 to routinely check in with heads of every department to 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:09.400 communicate their needs and ensure that their creative vision properly 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:12.800 translate to the big screen. Ultimately, it is the director's 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.320 job to check in with each department to say, hey, 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:17.240 how's it going, what do you need? Can I do 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:19.920 anything for you? And make sure it's running smoothly. There 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:22.240 will definitely be people saying I'm not saying that what 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:26.080 happened was absolutely no one's fault or completely someone's fault. 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:27.200 I'm not putting the blame of anyone. 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:29.760 Obviously, this has gone through so many people and it's 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:32.960 beyond me how it made it this far. But I 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:35.360 feel horrific. My point is I feel horrific for Alec 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:39.360 Baldwin because he's not a trained armorer. In his mind, 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:41.240 he's like cool. That's why I have all these people 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:44.120 on set. I'm the actor. I'm here ready. It should 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.480 have gone through two people, at a minimum three people. 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:49.000 I'm ready to go. Like he's not trained in that. 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:52.160 So I feel very very sorry for him. I feel 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:54.920 sorry for everyone involved. I think it's horrific. He could 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:56.920 face charges, he may not. We're not really going to 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:58.520 know until there's a proper investigation. 0:16:58.800 --> 0:16:59.640 Oh, Like, I. 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:02.200 Agree with so much of what you're saying, And of 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:06.439 course it is a incredible tragedy. And like I'm not 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:09.439 here saying I don't think him going to jail or 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:12.480 him being charged with murder or manslaughter. I don't think 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:15.240 that that solves what the problem is here. And I 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:17.040 don't know what the right problem. I don't know what 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:19.000