1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda in the morning. 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 2: Sam, So, you may have been following this story that 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 2: a noose was found in the garage of NASCAR driver 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 2: in his professional garage, Bubba Wallace. Very moving scenes that 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 2: followed this. This is just in the last week or 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: so that all the drivers, he's the only African American 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: driver in the NASCAR series, all the drivers, all their crews, 8 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: hundreds of people pushed his car with him in it. 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 2: He wanted this and gives him over a cliff to 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: the start of the start of the race line. If 11 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 2: I got that right? Was it to the start? But 12 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: the image to the front of the grid, the front 13 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: of the grid, and the imagery is incredibly moving. He 14 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: was in tears. This was NASCAR saying we support you. 15 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: Yep. And NASCAR has gone a long way. They've taken 16 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: down the Confederate flag, which they have over in that 17 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: about Confederate because NASCAR is pretty much born in the South. 18 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: It's and original origins of it was running moonshine of 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: state borders in high powered V eight cars. 20 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: Is that the origins of Nascar? 21 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: How can't you listen to Copperhead Road? Haven't you watched 22 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: the Duke's hazard. 23 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 2: What's in Copperhead Road that his daddy had grown. 24 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: Daddy had a big black Dodge bought it in an 25 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: auction of the mason's life. 26 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 2: It wasn't aware that he was racing for NASCAR. 27 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,279 Speaker 1: No, he wasn't racing for NASCAR. He was out running 28 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: the popo with the moonshine and the illegal liquor in 29 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: the boot. So you had to have a very fast 30 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: car to get away from the cops. And they had 31 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: ingenious ways of getting rid of the moonshine. So the 32 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: cops had pulled up behind him, they'd gas the big car, 33 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: meaning go quick, and they'd have a little lever that 34 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: dumped all the moonshine on the road, and then they'd 35 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: light the moonshine up and they'd be a big Copperhead 36 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: road again, you know, the big flaming part on the road, 37 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: and all the evidence would be burnt. But the noose 38 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: in his. 39 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: But tell me also about the Confederate flagged. 40 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: Well, because it's in the South, yes, but was. 41 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: A Confederate flag. It wasn't part of their imagery for 42 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: not for every team was it? 43 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: No, but was the over reaching but something still had 44 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: the flag hazard had on. 45 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: The roof of the General Lee and one. 46 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: Up until recently, I didn't really give much thought about 47 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: the whole Confederacy until I've done a bit of reading 48 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: about it, and it's pretty much when you look it 49 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: was America fighting itself, but the bad guys were the 50 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: South because they didn't they wanted the slaves to stay slave. 51 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: That's right. It was fall and against slavery. 52 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: And there's no other candy coating around it. That's when 53 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: you really look at it. That's pretty much all it was. 54 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: It was about Civil war, was about that, keeping. 55 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: The negro, as they said in the time, as subservient 56 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: to the white man. That's actually history that's written, but 57 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: it's not really documented by mainstream media that much until recently. 58 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: One of the drivers, Ray Chicerella, pulled out because he said, well, 59 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: if the Confederate flag's going, i am too. But he 60 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 2: was a hopeless rasory and say okay, see you later, 61 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: dig your ideology and a rack off. But yes, back 62 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 2: to the noose. So a noose was found in his garage, 63 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 2: which which spurred all of this response to say, we're 64 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: with you, baba, we don't tolerate this. Well, there's been 65 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:07,119 Speaker 2: an FBI investigation, and they found that the noose actually 66 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: was just hanging on the garage door. It had been 67 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: there since last October, since before he took over that garage. 68 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: It was fashioned like a noose, but it was there 69 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: just as a pulley system. 70 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: Yes, for those garage doors to pull them down, and 71 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: the cord was too long, so someone's just tired. 72 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 2: And moved it over. So they found well, as Nazkharsai, 73 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: this is a great conclusion for US, no federal crime 74 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: has been committed, no racial crime. There was no malice 75 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 2: in it. It was a rope that had been there 76 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: for a while. But everyone's so triggered at the moment 77 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: they saw that and thought this is a. 78 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: Hang on, and he would feel pretty much my line. 79 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: But you know, he's a brave sort of guy going 80 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: into a white, predominant, predominantly white sports. 81 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: Particularly while they're debating whether they should have the Confederate 82 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: flag or not. 83 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: So really, out of all this people that would say, oh, 84 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: this is you know, just terrible, it's actually good. 85 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 2: It's a good thing. 86 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and all the he's fellow competitors, they did that 87 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: that still stands. What they did for Baba is still. 88 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: There, and as NASCAR has said, it's a great conclusion 89 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: for them. 90 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: Indeed, do you think Baba would have thought, should I 91 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: tell anyone? 92 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: I'll imagine the moment where they said, I think that 93 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,559 Speaker 2: noose was just actually part of the garage. Don't say anything. 94 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: Tell me about Jukes of Hazard again. Join the and 95 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: Amanda in the morning at one point seven t