1 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome to the Rise and Conquer Podcast. I'm 2 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: your host, Georgie Stevenson. I'm a lawyer and health coach, 3 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: social media influencer, wife and dogmam. On the Rise and 4 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: Conquer Podcast, we dive deep into all things mindset, habits, career, health, 5 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: relationships and more. 6 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: This is a podcast. 7 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: For women who want to rise up to be the 8 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: best version of themselves, who have big dreams in who 9 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: are willing to put in the work to get there. 10 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: I want to bring you the tools and actionable steps 11 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: to feel confident in yourself, inspired to take bold action, 12 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: and motivated to conquer your goals. Are you with me, 13 00:00:49,560 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: girl friends, Let's rise and conquer. Hi, guys, and welcome 14 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: back to the Rise and Conker Podcast. Today's episode is 15 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: a little bit different and it is a replay of 16 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: an interview I did for the Life Lessons podcast. I 17 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: was interviewed by Sarah and we chatted about so much. 18 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: We talked about things like how I started my business, 19 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: how much it's expanded over the last year, my transition 20 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 1: from being a lawyer to now being a health coach, 21 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: and all the in between, the lessons that I have 22 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: learned so far, and then we talk a lot about 23 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: social media and building your own brand. 24 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: And so much more. I'm really excited for you guys 25 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: to hear this interview. 26 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: Make sure you go and check out the Life Lessons 27 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: podcast and follow Sarah on Instagram. Her instagram is at 28 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: Sarah Jane Wilson Underscore. Okay, now let's get straight into 29 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: the episode. 30 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 3: Oh my god, we are here with Georgie Stevenson. Thank 31 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 3: you so much for taking time out of your day 32 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 3: and joining our podcast. I know everyone's going to be 33 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 3: so excited to hear from you. 34 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: No problem at all, Sarah, I'm happy to be here. 35 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 3: Well, let's get right into it. So for those listening 36 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 3: who may not know your story, could you share a 37 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 3: little bit about your journey to being you know, your 38 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: own boss and all the many hats that you wear, 39 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: being a fellow podcaster and influencer and business owner and 40 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: ebook author and all the other things. 41 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, no problem, So I'll try and keep it as 42 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: short as possible. 43 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: But a little rundown. 44 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: So I went straight from high school and I studied law. 45 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: So I finished my law degree, I graduated, I got 46 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: admitted as a lawyer so I can actually practice law. 47 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: And before that, I was working in a law firm 48 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: for around two years as a law clerk in family law. 49 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: So I was working full time. I'm studying my PLT, 50 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 1: which is what you have to do after you graduate 51 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: to actually practice law, and basically running my social media, 52 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: which I call you know, that was my side hustle 53 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: on the side, and so my social media I probably 54 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: at that time I probably had around like two hundred 55 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: and thirty thousand followers, and I would put daily content 56 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: on there. I had a YouTube, which was weekly content. 57 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: I had a blog, so I was I was working 58 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: full time and that was kind of like my side hustle. 59 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: My Instagram. 60 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: Well, my social story is very much i'd like to 61 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: call it like fitness and health and lifestyle niche. Like 62 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: I don't like to niche myself too much in fitness 63 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: health because I'd like to think I'm a bit more 64 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: than that. I kind of would pitch myself as like 65 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: you know, in everyday Girl, who I'm into fitness and health, 66 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: but it's like not. 67 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: My number one priority any more. 68 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: So it's kind of I don't know, I've had a 69 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: transition with that, but anyway, moving on, and so from that, 70 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: basically what I realized is while I was when I 71 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: was working full time at the law firm, like I 72 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: enjoyed law. I am so happy I picked that degree. 73 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: But I did realize all I would think about while 74 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: working full time there is just how much I wanted to, 75 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: you know, create content for my Instagram and my YouTube 76 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: and my blogs. And I was just so passionate about 77 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: that sort of side hustle and that sort of side 78 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: of things. But for so long I just pushed it aside. 79 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: I said, you know, no, I've got to keep with 80 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: the law. It's a safe, it's a respectable you know. 81 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: I know I'm going to earn a good income all 82 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: that sort of thing, But I don't know. It just 83 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: got to this like pivotal moment where I just realized 84 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: that if I didn't take the leap and see what 85 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: this whole side business thing like, see how it could 86 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 1: pen out, I just knew I would regret it. 87 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 2: And it got to the point. 88 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: Where the feeling of I didn't want to like regret 89 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: it sort of was bigger than the feeling of fear, 90 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: because I had a lot of fear because you know, 91 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: imagine telling your parents that you know you're who thought, well, 92 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: you've just become a lawyer and all this sort of thing. 93 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: Imagine telling them, hey, look, I'm not doing law anymore. 94 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: I'm actually going to step aside and venture out and 95 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: do this social media thing. So it was definitely scary, 96 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: but I just had such a passion for my side business. 97 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: So anyway, long story short, I decided to take the leap. 98 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: I did. 99 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: That was roughly a year ago. So for the last year, 100 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: I produced authored my ebook with a nutritionness and it's 101 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: all about intuitive eating, something I'm super passionate about, and it's. 102 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 2: Also recipe book. 103 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: I also obviously upped all my content, so I have 104 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: way more content on my blog and pages and YouTube. 105 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: I actually I did quite a few like speaking gigs 106 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: last year and I don't know, yeah, just I kind 107 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: of fell into that sort of stuff. 108 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: And then also recently launched my podcast. 109 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: Which definitely came up because before I took the leap 110 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: with going full time with my side business. 111 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: I didn't have belief that I could. 112 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: And it wasn't until I listened to other like self 113 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: development podcasts, that I realized that no, I needed to 114 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: try this out. 115 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 2: I needed to do this. 116 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: So my podcast is very much about it's mainly focused 117 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: towards women and kind of like stepping into their power 118 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: and realizing their potential, just because I feel like I 119 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: owe that to other podcasts though. 120 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: That was just like really inspirational for me. 121 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's kind of like a long, sort of 122 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: weird snapshot of me. 123 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 3: No, I love it, Thank you so much. So for 124 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 3: anyone listening who hasn't checked out Georgie's podcast, it's the 125 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 3: Rise and Conquer podcast and it is really really good. 126 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 3: My favorite episode that I have listened to so far 127 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 3: was with when you interviewed Nina, and there was so 128 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 3: many like wow moments, especially when you guys were talking 129 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 3: about weight and you know, like weight just you know, 130 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 3: being a number. And yeah, anyway, for everyone listening, go 131 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 3: and listen to it. 132 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: I was with that episode. 133 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: I was the exact same like Nina, who's the coll 134 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: fed nutritionist, was on there, and yeah, so I was 135 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: just asking her questions, which are like more I just 136 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: wanted to know, and like I knew the general answers, 137 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: but just the way she spoke and you know, described things, 138 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: it just made so much sense. And yeah, it's kind 139 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: of like these like mind blowing truth bonds that you're 140 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: like wow, so you know, I'm glad you liked that 141 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: one one of my Yeah, I. 142 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 3: Feel like we could have a totally separate conversation around like, 143 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 3: because I have been following you for a little while 144 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 3: about just like your health and fitness journey just in general, 145 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 3: because I feel like it's very similar to mine, but. 146 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: It's very similar to most girls. Yes, like we're all 147 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: going through this stupid thing. 148 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, So going back to when you decided to transition 149 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 3: into full time and you spoke about I guess that 150 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 3: fear around letting go of the safe option and having 151 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: to have that hard conversation with your parents and stepping 152 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 3: into I guess the unknown. What was your mindset like 153 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 3: when you first realized that, you know, you definitely wanted 154 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: to work for yourself and that you didn't want to 155 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 3: necessarily be a lawyer anymore. And can you talk a 156 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 3: little bit about that self doubt, if you had any 157 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 3: self doubt and how you overcame that. 158 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure thing. 159 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: So, Yeah, like I said, said, I was really scared 160 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 1: because you know, in society these days, there's just such 161 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: like prefess that you know, you finish high school, you 162 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: do a degree, you get a job in that degree, 163 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: and specifically with. 164 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: Me doing law. 165 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: I was, yeah, definitely worried, you know what people would think, 166 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: how I was going to tell like my family and friends, 167 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: and just that judgment, which I feel definitely comes in 168 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: when you tell someone you're going to leave like the 169 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: safe option and do something like a bit crazy. So 170 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: I definitely had that fear and I was definitely scared, 171 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: but like I was sort of saying, like I also 172 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: like doubted myself, Like I was like, I don't know 173 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: if I can do this. Am I making the right decision? 174 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: Am I making the worst decision of my like life? 175 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: Like I definitely went through all that, but I got 176 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: to a point where I was just like, no, I'm 177 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: doing this. It's getting to the point where all I 178 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: can think about is my side business. I need to 179 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: do this for me because like my business now, it 180 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: just it's driven from such passion and such heart. Whereas 181 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, I did enjoy law, It's just 182 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: like I didn't have that passion. I definitely like could 183 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: do it now, but it was very much like you 184 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: know a job that you go because you're getting paid, 185 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: not because you love it, Whereas now I am my job, 186 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: I love it like you could not pay me and 187 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: I would still do it sort of things. So I 188 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: just realized that sort of feeling, and I really just 189 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 1: kind of sat with myself for a long time and 190 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 1: listened in, listened to my intuition and just thought, no, 191 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 1: I've got to do this. I've got to see this through. 192 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: And I also thought about, you know, like worst case scenario, 193 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: I go back to law, I go back to the 194 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: corporate world, which I was okay with that, so I 195 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: was okay with worse like worst case scenario. So I thought, 196 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just going to do this. I'm going 197 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: to get into it. So I don't know, it's almost 198 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: like you've got to like pep talk yourself and try. 199 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: Like obviously I did the pros and cons and all 200 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: that sort of stuff, but in the end, it was 201 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: listening to my intuition and listening to my heart and passion. 202 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 3: Yes, I love it. And I think a lot of 203 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 3: people listening to this podcast and probably your podcast as well, 204 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 3: maybe doing something on the side of a full time job. 205 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 3: Could you share a little bit about how you coped 206 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 3: with managing all of that and any tips to transitioning 207 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: into full time working for yourself. 208 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, no problems. So I'm not gonna lie. 209 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: When I was working full time and then you know, 210 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: had my side business, I did not have. 211 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 2: Much of her life at all. 212 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: I very much like I guess, it was just and 213 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: that's when I knew because any time that I wasn't 214 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: at work, I would be spending on my side business. 215 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: Like I just had that sort of passion. 216 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: So something that I guess transitioning it was actually really 217 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: hard to transition because something that I did realize is, 218 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: you know, previous I would just make the time, like 219 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: I had no time, but I would make the time. 220 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: And then when I was doing it full time, it 221 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: was sort of hard to structure my day because I 222 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: hadn't had a lot of routine and structure. So for me, 223 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: the transition was very much about finding routine and structure 224 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: that worked well for me. And that took a while, 225 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: which was annoying to me at the start, but now 226 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: I realized, you know, it just had to happen. And 227 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: something that I did realize what sort of helped the 228 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: transition is I outsourced a lot of things that weren't 229 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: my zona genius. So and this was also like not 230 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: so much during but what I realized is when I 231 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: sort of, you know, quit my full time job to 232 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: do my side hustle, I didn't have as much time 233 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: as I thought, which was odd because you know, I 234 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: thought i'd have eight more hours a day. But what 235 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: I realized is there was no use of me doing 236 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: everything when I wasn't good at certain things. So I 237 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: chose to pick the things that I was really good 238 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: out of my business and the rest I looked into, 239 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: like outsourcing. Obviously at the start, I didn't have a 240 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: lot of money, so it was just really part time 241 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: sort of stuff. 242 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: But yeah, that was kind of my coping mechanisms. 243 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess going back to that transition from being 244 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 3: an employee to being your own boss essentially, I guess 245 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 3: it would be more about employing yourself and giving yourself 246 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 3: like proper structure, because I can imagine it would just 247 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 3: be easy to be like, oh it's midday and I'm 248 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 3: still in my pajamas. 249 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: No exactly, and then I swear, like at the start, 250 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: because I was in corporate life for so long, I 251 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: like rebelled and just like on any structure. So for 252 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: a while it was like this weird in between time, 253 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: and I like, now I fully, you know, set myself, 254 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: you know, like I get up early still and like 255 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: I have a full sort of process, Whereas previously there 256 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: was a couple of months where I was like, I 257 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: can do anything I want. Now I would like have 258 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 1: a really good routine. I'm a person who loves routine. 259 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: So that needed to happen, Yes, for sure. 260 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 3: And going back to when you were working full time 261 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 3: and doing all of everything that you needed to do 262 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 3: for your side hustle, what did that look like? Like, 263 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 3: give us a day in the life of Georgie. Full 264 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 3: time work and I guess full time side hustle. 265 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: Okay, so this is what my day would look like. 266 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: I would wake up around four twenty am. Obvioustely am 267 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: in the afternoon, no, I'd wake up at four twenty. 268 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: I would go to gym around quarter to five. I 269 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: would do a gym session. I would get home around 270 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: and then I had to be ready out the door 271 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: for the bus around six point fifty because I actually 272 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: started work at seven thirty. 273 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: God knows why a law firm. 274 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: Needs to be open at seven thirty, but anyway, so 275 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: I started work at seven thirty and then basically obviously 276 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: in the morning, like you know, I do my gym session, 277 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: I post on my stories and you know, do content 278 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: that way. But then at lunchtime it would be a 279 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: lot of doing content, editing YouTube videos, making blog content, 280 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff. So that would be my 281 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: lunch break, and then I'd go back to work and 282 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: I'd get home. 283 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: Around six thirty at night. 284 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: I would cook me and Tim dinner, have a shower, 285 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: chat with Tim for a bit, give him a little 286 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: bit of time. 287 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: Then I would go back. 288 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: To doing YouTube content all that sort of side stuff 289 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: around seven thirty, and then go to bed around nine thirty. 290 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 2: So that was my grain for like two years. 291 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: And then basically all weekend all I would do is 292 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: like film videos, brite content, that sort of thing. I 293 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: rarely took a weekend off, which like now looking back, 294 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how I did it, because I take 295 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: one day off now. But like I said, like it 296 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: was just such a passion. I just made it happen. 297 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: It was a struggle. Now looking back, I did realize 298 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: that it was a big struggle to sort of make 299 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: time for friends and family and that sort of stuff. 300 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: But it was just a couple of years of grinding 301 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: and I was just so happy to do it. 302 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I love that. Okay, cool. So I obviously 303 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 3: follow you on social media and I see that your 304 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 3: personal brand is just really I guess expanded, especially over 305 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 3: the last year, and now you have a full time 306 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 3: staff member. Now, So how was it making that decision 307 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 3: to go? Right? I need help? And how as I 308 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 3: guess them? You know, did you feel pressure like having 309 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 3: to hire somebody? Like does she work for you? Full time? 310 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: So she does now, but she started off part time. 311 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: So basically with Mel, I would call Mel now she's 312 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: like my project manager. But when I initially hired her, 313 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: it was just like this general sort of like content 314 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: pr just kind of like a vague role. And the 315 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: reason for hiring Mel is I quit my full time job. 316 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I'm doing this, I'm giving 317 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: it one hundred percent of my time. 318 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 2: Just taking it back a little bit. 319 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: The reason why I did quit my job, But another 320 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: reason was because I realized that, you know, my socials 321 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: and stuff were doing extremely well, but I was only 322 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: giving it thirty percent of my time. So I thought 323 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: to myself, imagine if I was giving it one hundred 324 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: percent of my time. 325 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 2: So that was kind of like another of pushing factor. 326 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: So when I quit my full time job and I 327 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: was doing my side business, it was this really weird 328 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: thing because obviously I was now giving it full time, 329 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: but I didn't feel like I was actually getting that 330 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: much more done and like progressing that much more. And 331 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: I think it's because I was literally working twenty four 332 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: seven but now, you know, I was going back to 333 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: just similar work hours with this job, and it's almost 334 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: like I wasn't like getting any further, which was annoying 335 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: to me because I, you know, was like, oh my god, 336 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: I've literally just quit this really great job, this really great, 337 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: safe job. I have to be progressing and getting further 338 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: otherwise what's the point. So I realized that I was 339 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: doing a lot of repetitive stuff, a lot of admin stuff, 340 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,719 Speaker 1: and a lot of stuff that, like I said, was 341 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: not my I like to call it like my zone 342 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: of genius, So stuff that would take me quite a 343 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: long time, but for someone else it might be a 344 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: lot quicker. 345 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 2: And I realized that because you can't be good at everything. 346 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So basically what I did is like you know, 347 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: those all women I can't remember which group it was. 348 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: I had been to an all women like networking event. 349 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: I think it was like minding her business or women 350 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: co or something like that. And I'm in their Facebook 351 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: groups and so I just posted on there and I 352 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: just said, hey, I'm looking for a part timer, probably 353 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: just out of UNI, who's interested in social media PR, 354 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: that sort of thing. They would be helping me with 355 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: like emails, content, and that's basically all I thought, like 356 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: just really add many sorts of roles. And the way 357 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: I found Mel is she actually previously worked for another 358 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: PR company part time, and I knew the girl who 359 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: owned it, and she said, you know, I've got Mel. 360 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 2: She works three days for me. She's looking for another job. 361 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: And so I picked up Mel for two days and 362 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: so initially at the start, she would. 363 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 2: Just help me take photos. 364 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: We would do a bit of content together and it 365 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: was really helpful. And so long story short, this is weird, 366 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: but like I kind of stole her, and so she 367 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: became full time to me because honestly it was invaluable 368 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: having someone with a different zone of genius. So I'm 369 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: quite a structured person, Like I love structure. That's why 370 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, I did law, Like I love formulas and structure. 371 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: And Mel is very creative, so our brains together work 372 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: really well. And yeah, it was like one of the 373 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: best decisions I ever made because I could see how 374 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: much she was value she was giving me, and when 375 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: she was doing other stuff, I had more time to 376 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: focus on my zone of genius and the important things, 377 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: because something that I found is I was getting spread 378 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: way too thin, and you know, my heart and passion 379 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,959 Speaker 1: wasn't in my content and that killed me because I 380 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: was like, you know, so involved and so into my 381 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: passion and content. So having her gave me more free 382 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: time to do, like, you know, the stuff that only 383 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: I can do, and so. 384 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 2: She would help and pick up a lot of the 385 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 2: other stuff. 386 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: And so now I think she's worked for me for 387 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: about eight months, and so now she works full time and. 388 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 2: She basically runs the show. 389 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: No well job, let's be honest, but I call her 390 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: my project manager. So she really oversees like we have 391 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: like eight different projects going on at one time. It's 392 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: a bit hectic, so she makes sure they're all happening. 393 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: She'll chase up other people, she'll make sure I'm onto 394 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: the stuff I need to be onto. And that has 395 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: just been amazing because I've never felt so connected to 396 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: like my content and my zona genius and yeah, it 397 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: just flows. 398 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 2: It's good. It was like, yeah, the best thing I 399 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 2: ever did. 400 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: It was really scary at the start because even though 401 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: she was part time, I was still paying someone else's 402 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: age and it was at a point where I had 403 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: only just started and I was making a living. But 404 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: it was still an expense and it was really scared 405 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: at the start. But looking back, it like paid off 406 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: like tenfold. 407 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 3: It was like, yeah, I guess just taking that risk 408 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 3: to invest a little to get a lot, you know, 409 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 3: like having yeah, love it, love it. For those listening 410 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 3: who you know wanting to build their own brand, can 411 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 3: you share a little bit about how you organize all 412 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 3: your content for the week, you know, from all your 413 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 3: different socials. 414 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: Okay, so I want to tell you, like I have 415 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: this full content calendar and we plan it. 416 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 3: It's mail, isn't it. 417 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: Mal is at all? Like we do try and plan content. 418 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: But to be honest, that's kind of my zone of genius, 419 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: like I keep saying, So I see, I'm the person 420 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: where my content does so much better when it's like 421 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,479 Speaker 1: in the moment and it's raw and it's real and 422 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:12,959 Speaker 1: it's relevant. So Obviously I have sponsored content that I 423 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 1: can do the week before or a couple of weeks before, 424 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: so we will like you know, do that and plan 425 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: in content like that. But to be honest, a lot 426 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 1: of my day to day sort of posts I just 427 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: really on the spot and raw and real because I 428 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: just find the engagement of that is just so much 429 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: more than really sort of stage posts, if that makes sense. 430 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: No in saying that, though, me and Mel will have 431 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: we have a planning meeting every week, and so we 432 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: will chat about content and basically what I try to book. 433 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 2: In every week. 434 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: Like with Instagram, I try and do three I call 435 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: them like free value content, so nothing paid, just like 436 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: talking about things that are happening with me that could 437 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: help my audience. And so at the start of the 438 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: week I will try and think of ideas, like think 439 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: of what's happening at the moment and book those in 440 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: and then you know, decide if I need to take 441 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: content or anything like that. With YouTube, it's very much 442 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: I filmed the week before and then I post a 443 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: week after, which I like because you know it's relevant. 444 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 2: And then with the blog, we're. 445 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: Usually a couple of weeks ahead, but then my content 446 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: usually ties in everywhere. So for example, I just did 447 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: a YouTube about like fission boarding and goal setting, and 448 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: then I did a blog post that complimented it. 449 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 2: So I don't know. I really just go off. 450 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: What my audience is picking up and loving, and I 451 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: will sort of run with that, and I basically plan 452 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: like the week before. I'd love to tell you it's 453 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: like this whole like month before thing, but I don't know. 454 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: I'm personally such like of the view that yeah, content 455 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: does like in saying that if you can sort of 456 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: write some captions, write some blogs, have a couple of ideas, 457 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: sort of like waiting them in a document, have everything 458 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: a bit planned out one hundred percent better. I guess 459 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: for me personally, I post at least once a day. 460 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 2: Uh no, actually not. I definitely don't post twice. 461 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: But I am like constantly putting content out there, So 462 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: if I guess, I don't really need that reminder, Whereas 463 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: I know other people with content like you need to 464 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: be consistent, and I personally think like you should be 465 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: posting at least four times a week, if not more, 466 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: to stay consistent and to stay in front of your audience. 467 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 2: I personally don't have that problem. 468 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: I just like love posting that, so I didn't really 469 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: have that problem, but I do like to plan ahead, 470 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: or me and Mal do have these documents. For example, 471 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: if I'm getting a lot of dms or messages about 472 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,719 Speaker 1: a certain topic, I'll chuck that in this document. And 473 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: so when I'm searching for ideas for a caption or YouTube, 474 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: I go to this document and I've just got exactly 475 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: what my audience wants to know and hear about. 476 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 3: Yes, love it. And I think especially in the last 477 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 3: few years, and I'm mainly talking about Instagram here, but 478 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 3: there has been such a huge shift from people having 479 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 3: these perfectly curated photos and captions to now it being 480 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 3: a lot more raw and real and relatable. And I 481 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 3: think that's so refreshing now that people are able to 482 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 3: share more of like what's actually going on in people's lives, 483 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 3: not so much the highlight reel. 484 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 2: Ah. 485 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: I could not agree more. Like I was just thinking 486 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: the other day, the Whole Story's feature on Instagram was a. 487 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 2: Game changer, because the game changer even though. 488 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: Like my feed is still quite you know, like I 489 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: always have makeup on and I take a good quality 490 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: photos and they are still real photos. But even though 491 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 1: my feed is like that, I jump on my story 492 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: every single day makeup free, like and I think people 493 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: like that because you know you can go to you've 494 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 1: got that sort of post, but then you know I'm 495 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: on there every single day just exactly how I am. 496 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: And yeah, people love that, I like, but who wouldn't 497 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: because we definitely went through the stage where everyone was 498 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 1: so perfect and they all we saw was highlight like wheels, 499 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: and that's like not good for your mental health. I'm 500 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: so glad where the whole trend and transition to being 501 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,239 Speaker 1: like real and authentic has gone, because yeah, I just 502 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: think it's the best thing possible. 503 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 3: And that people are relating with that more now. Like 504 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,719 Speaker 3: people were so obsessed and I'm totally guilty of this 505 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 3: in the past of like you know, following pages that 506 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 3: were just perfect all the time and just being like, oh, 507 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 3: I need to be perfect all the time. And then 508 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 3: now I'm like get rid of them, like start following 509 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 3: some real people. 510 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: So well, I was the exact same, like I swear, 511 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: you know, three years ago, all I followed was like 512 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: really skinny models or like really any girls with abs, 513 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: and like nowadays, if don't get me wrong, I will 514 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: still follow like a girl like that, but if she 515 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: isn't real and authentic, like I feel like. 516 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 2: You can just know. 517 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: And for example, if she only posts like really perfect photos, 518 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 1: really edited anything like that, I'm the exact same. I 519 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: was just on follow because I'm like, I don't need 520 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: that in my life, like and also me being an 521 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: influencer myself, I know that's not real, and so I 522 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: just don't have any time for that. I'm like, I'm 523 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: not interested because for me personally, my Instagram and social media, 524 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: it's about a community and having connection with people that 525 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: you wouldn't usually have a connection to, and those sorts 526 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: of people I just don't connect, Like I'm not on 527 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: their level, not perfect like them. So I just like 528 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: I don't even bother. I don't even like, yeah, I'll 529 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: un follow them. I don't even follow people like that 530 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: anymore because to me, no. 531 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 3: Point totally, And like I remember ages ago, there was 532 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 3: this I was following like a lot of these like yeah, 533 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 3: as you said, like models and you know, fitness models 534 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 3: and things like that, and you know they won't even 535 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 3: write a caption, It'll just be like an emode, like 536 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 3: a winking emoji, and you're like. 537 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 2: What is this? 538 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:18,479 Speaker 1: Like, I know that that stuff kills me. Honestly, I'm like, 539 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: what are you? 540 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 2: Why are you doing this? But it kills me. That's 541 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 2: so many people still follow them. 542 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll be like they'll have like two million followers, 543 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 3: and you're like, oh my god, like these poor like 544 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 3: young girls are just at home on their phones looking 545 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 3: at these women and they're like, yep, this is what 546 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 3: I need to be, like to have two million followers 547 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 3: and just want the winky face. 548 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 1: But also what kills me is like, you know those 549 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: young girls think that like that well, I know it's 550 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: just a bit of a touchy subject, but personally, like, 551 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: you have so much potential that you can give to 552 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: society that doesn't involve your physical appearance, and I feel 553 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: like those sorts of accounts like they they're reinforcing that, no, 554 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: it's all just about how you look, and I hate Yeah. 555 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 3: I think I was listening to a podcast. I mean, 556 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 3: now that I'm a podcast host, I feel like I'm 557 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 3: obsessively listening to every podcast that there is on any 558 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 3: podcast app. But I was listening to a podcast episode 559 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 3: and they were interviewing Laura Henshaw from the you Know 560 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 3: the Kick girls, and she was talking about how, you know, 561 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 3: there's these Instagram models that have millions of followers and 562 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 3: they have a platform where they can really help people 563 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 3: and make change. And then you've got some Instagram accounts 564 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 3: that are really campaigning for really worthwhile topics and they 565 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 3: get like dirty likes. Yeah, you know, and yeah, it's 566 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 3: just crazy. 567 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 2: It is. It's in saying. 568 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: That, like we were saying, I think there's definitely a 569 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: shift happening, but it's so true that that's still the case. 570 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I feel like we went off topic, but 571 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 3: I loved it. I love it all right. So next question, So, 572 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 3: I guess like health and fitness and you know, people 573 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 3: wanting to build a personal brand, Like there's obviously a 574 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 3: lot of that going on, especially on Instagram and YouTube. 575 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 3: Do you have any advice for anyone listening that's wanting 576 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 3: to start to build their own brand now? So say, 577 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 3: like they're just starting today, you know, what would be 578 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 3: your tips on how to stand out? Yeah? 579 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 2: Sure? 580 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: So for me, And I want to say, like, because 581 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: I actually get asked this question all the time obviously 582 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: because I do have a presence on social media and 583 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: I have a bigger sort of audience I get asked 584 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,959 Speaker 1: this all the time, and like, the biggest thing that 585 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: I can say is you need to think how am 586 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: I adding value to someone's life? 587 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 2: Like for what reason will someone follow you? 588 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, it doesn't have to be 589 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: I feel like we fall in this trap of you know, 590 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: thinking value in regards of you know, posting lots of 591 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: information and that sort of thing, which is value. And 592 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: that's amazing. I follow so many counts for that. But 593 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: also you know, value is like entertainment. Value is what 594 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: we were talking about before, like getting on your story 595 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: raw and real and talking about raw topics like value, 596 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: is you posting something that helps someone else in their 597 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: journey in their life? It can be so different, but 598 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: you need to find what can you give others? What 599 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: would be the reason why someone actually follows you, because 600 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: like you said, it is just so saturated. And you know, 601 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: if you're a fitness influencer and you're just posting workouts 602 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: and posting what you eat, I just don't think that's 603 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: enough anymore because it is, it's so saturated, So you 604 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: really need to Like I also love the idea of 605 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: niching in. I know I'm saying it and I'm a 606 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: bit more broad, but in saying that, I was a 607 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: bit lucky in regards to I was bigger earlier on 608 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: when not a lot of people were. 609 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 2: So I realized, I'm like contradicting. 610 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: Myself here finding a niche and like really niching in 611 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: and really going ham on like that topic. I think 612 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: that is really important because that's how someone is going 613 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: to find you. And yeah, so making sure you're giving 614 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: value to your audience, and also, like we're talking about, 615 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: make sure you're being real and authentic because people know, like. 616 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 2: We're coming to that point where we. 617 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: Just know, and if you don't show up as yourself, 618 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: people are gonna know. And I just don't personally think 619 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: those accounts are doing well anymore. Like I was thinking 620 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: the other day, I remember previous back in the day, 621 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: lots of those fitness accounts where they weren't necessarily by 622 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: a certain person, but they just used to like repoke 623 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: pot girls, like I swear there was so many like 624 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: big accounts like that and that's all you followed. 625 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 2: Was Now like I don't follow any accounts like that. 626 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: I follow people for their personalities because they make me laugh, 627 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: because they show their real self, because I literally feel 628 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: like I'm friends with some of the people and that 629 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: I've never met. 630 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 2: So I personally think that is a big thing. 631 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: And probably like another thing is just like being consistent 632 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: and constantly showing up. I think in this sort of 633 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: day and age, like people just want instant gratification and 634 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: just want instant success. And you know, something with my 635 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: following is when people are like, oh my god, you 636 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,240 Speaker 1: have so many followers, like that's so lucky, that happens 637 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 1: so quick. 638 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 2: Is they don't realize this. 639 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: I've been on Instagram for seven years and I've been 640 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: posting about fitness and health from seven years. I was 641 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: like posting what I was eating, my workouts when it 642 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: was literally like my mom and brother and dog like like, 643 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: I've been like from the very start, putting out value, 644 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: putting out content, being myself most of the time. And 645 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: I just like, I think, you can't be in this 646 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: for a quick fix and you can't be in this 647 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: for oh I want to make you know, I want 648 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: to be insta famous and make money off the gram 649 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: because guys, it doesn't happen that way. Just because you 650 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,919 Speaker 1: have followers does not mean you get money. 651 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 2: Like I was talking to a couple of girls. 652 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: Actually I was talking to this one girl and she 653 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: had nine hundred k followers, And like, you know when 654 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: you charge, so for example, when companies work with me, 655 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: some companies I will charge a fee, and my fee 656 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: was actually more expensive than her. Feel like she was 657 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 1: charging nothing just because she had no idea how to 658 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 1: monetize her account, and also her account wasn't engaged. 659 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 2: I think they were mostly male sort of thing. 660 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: Whereas you want to attract your tribe and people you'll 661 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: actually like want to connect with, you don't want to 662 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 1: just attract anybody and everyone. And that's where the whole 663 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: niche comes in and really zeroing in on what light 664 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: you are, what you're passionate about, because if you just 665 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,439 Speaker 1: keep consistent and you're in it for the long run, 666 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 1: you will attract your community and you will attract your tribe. 667 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: And also something that I've realized is, especially if you 668 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: are going to get on Instagram for a certain business purpose, 669 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: you actually don't need a lot of followers to make money. 670 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: You just need engage followers. So that's why it's really 671 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: important to be authentic, be real, post about your niche, 672 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: and post like value content that makes sense to whatever 673 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: you're doing, and like it will happen. 674 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think I love all of those tips, 675 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 3: by the way, but I think one of the other 676 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:54,280 Speaker 3: things is like, you can't be not authentic long term, 677 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 3: Like there's going to come a time where people are 678 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 3: going to realize that that's not the real you, and 679 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 3: you can't keep showing up if you're not being authentic. 680 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: So I love that, And well that's actually ties in 681 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 1: something I really like when I said previously, when I 682 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 1: was like, oh, you know, you've got to I've been 683 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 1: real most of the time. 684 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 2: Is because there was definitely a point, you know. 685 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 1: A couple of years ago when I was posting just 686 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: curated photos and my audience was not engaged, and like 687 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 1: now I pivoted and I only post real and authentic 688 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: and my audience is so engaged. And so I've definitely 689 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: been through that, and yeah, you're one hundred percent right, 690 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: it won't last and it doesn't work at all. 691 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. 692 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 2: I think passionate that didn't I No, I love it. 693 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 3: I love it. Okay, So I want to switch is 694 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 3: a little bit, and I guess go back to a 695 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 3: little bit what we were talking about. We kind of 696 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 3: delved into that a tiny bit. So health and fitness 697 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,280 Speaker 3: is a big passion of mine as well, and mindset 698 00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,080 Speaker 3: and personal development, which is obviously what really attracted me 699 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,320 Speaker 3: to following you in the beginning. And I have seen 700 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 3: that over time your health and fitness and your mindset 701 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 3: around that has really changed. Can you talk a little 702 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,720 Speaker 3: bit about I know it's probably like a longer story 703 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 3: than what we can cover on this, but I guess 704 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 3: maybe the main things that changed for you, and I 705 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 3: guess where you're at now with that. 706 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, so, oh yeah, I'll do it very short 707 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: and sweet, but long story short. I started my health 708 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 1: journey because I got out of high school. I was 709 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: your typical UNI student. 710 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 2: I was binge drinking and eating and on all. 711 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: That sort of lazy like lazy wake ups, all that 712 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,240 Speaker 1: sort of stuff. And then I started my health journey 713 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,240 Speaker 1: because I was ten kilos heavier than what I was previously, 714 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 1: and my health journey, I did all the typical things 715 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 1: that young girls do. I went on diets, I did 716 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: lots of cardio, and basically, three years into my health journey, 717 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: I woke up one day and I realized that I 718 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: had swung from one extreme to the next So I 719 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: was severely under eating and overtraining. But in saying that, 720 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: like what was on social media and what was around, like, 721 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: I just thought that was normal because no one was 722 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: talking about the fact that if you under eight that 723 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: could affect your hormones, which was the reason why I 724 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 1: personally went through a whole host of symptoms, including adult acne, 725 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: I had hormone andmbalances, I had digestive issues. I lost 726 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 1: my period for like fifteen months, like all these issues 727 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 1: which were directly tied to just me not eating enough 728 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: and overtraining and constantly putting stress in my body. But 729 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,359 Speaker 1: I just didn't even know what was happening because no 730 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 1: one was talking about this. This was like, you know, 731 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: three years ago, when all, you know, people on Instagram 732 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: were just posting photos of their abs, like there was 733 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: no sort of like health or like what I was following. 734 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,839 Speaker 1: And so it just came to a point where I 735 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,240 Speaker 1: had dieted and overtrained for so long that my body 736 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: was just like nope, that's enough, and I got all 737 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: these health issues and then basically long story short, as 738 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 1: I had to do a whole lifestyle change and really 739 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: do the inner work of you know, getting over. I 740 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 1: was never diagnosed with an eating disorder. I personally think 741 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: I had like a touch of orthorexia. But it was 742 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 1: just basically realizing that overtraining and under eating was not 743 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: the answer and I could live a sustainable and healthy 744 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,320 Speaker 1: lifestyle that was not a constant struggle because I felt 745 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 1: like I was constantly dieting or constantly losing weight. 746 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 2: And then putting on weight. 747 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: It was just this constant battle with myself and my body, 748 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 1: and I was always working against it rather than with it. 749 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 1: And also it definitely consumed a lot of my life. 750 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 1: And it was easy to cover that because you know, 751 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 1: I did have my Instagram which was fit focused, so 752 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: I could sort of, you know, use that as an excuse. 753 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 1: But looking back, it definitely consumed my life to a 754 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: point where it was not healthy. And so then I 755 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 1: basically had to take you know, this year process of 756 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: starting to eat more food. I stopped doing cardio and 757 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:22,320 Speaker 1: I started strength training, which you know, with these sorts 758 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,959 Speaker 1: of changes, I did start to put on weight, which 759 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,399 Speaker 1: was very uncomfortable for me. Because I was on social media, 760 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: I was on the limelight. People didn't realize the struggles 761 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,799 Speaker 1: that I was going through. And to be honest, I 762 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: didn't tell anyone because I was so confused about the 763 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 1: whole situation. No one was talking about this, And so 764 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 1: I had to basically rebuild my metabolism, stop doing so 765 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: much cardio, do strength training, do of those things. 766 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,799 Speaker 2: And also I had to do. 767 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: So much work, like in a work on my relationship 768 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 1: with my body and food because it was just it 769 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: was very unhealthy and it was not okay. So for 770 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: the last probably you know, a couple of years, once 771 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 1: I realized that was the reason for all my health issues, 772 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 1: I have been really working on that and basically eating 773 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 1: more food and less trading has fixed most of my 774 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,840 Speaker 1: health issues, and also working on that relationship with myself. 775 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 1: So I no longer come from a position of hating 776 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 1: my body and everything just being about my appearance. I 777 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: come from a position of love and doing things because 778 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 1: of health and because I love and want to, you know, 779 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,840 Speaker 1: respect my body. So it's just been this like really 780 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 1: big transition. Like you said, you've been through a similar thing. 781 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, a lot of learning, a lot of lessons. 782 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I am right there with you, and I 783 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 3: think just I related so much to your podcast with 784 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 3: Nina where she said like, I would much rather be 785 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 3: you know, five kilos heavier and feel free to eat 786 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,280 Speaker 3: the foods that I want, then be five kilos skinnier 787 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 3: and hate you know, like hate myself or like hate 788 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,320 Speaker 3: myself for eating that or Yeah. No, I really resonated 789 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 3: with that a lot. Yeah. 790 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 1: I loved her quote when she said, don't spend ninety 791 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 1: five percent of your time trying to diet to be 792 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: five kilos light. 793 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 2: And I was just like, it's so. 794 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 1: True, because when you're in that tunnel, it's like tunnel vision, 795 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: and you don't realize how consumed you are. 796 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all you're thinking about. Like you have breakfast 797 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 3: and you're like, okay, so in two hours time, I'm 798 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 3: going to have my snack and that's one hundred calories, 799 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 3: and then three hours after that, I'm going to have 800 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 3: this and it's like. 801 00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:49,479 Speaker 2: Oh god, I'm like having flashbacks and it's and. 802 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 1: That's the thing now, is I actually like look wise, 803 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 1: I actually look very similar, and it is effortless for 804 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 1: me to sustain like my training and my eating. I 805 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 1: eat intuitively, so I eat what I want when I want, 806 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 1: and I work with my body, and I look like 807 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 1: literally the exact same, And I just think back to 808 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 1: the struggles and how restrictive and crazy I was, and 809 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 1: like it was not necessary, like it was such like 810 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: a mental thing. And now like yeah, like it's just 811 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 1: so effortlessly to feel amazing and to you know, be 812 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: comfortable in my own skin, Like it's just crazy. 813 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. And I did a instac story about this yesterday, 814 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 3: actually about consistency because for me, I was, you know, 815 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 3: training six days a week, doing lots of cardio, and 816 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 3: then I hired like a proper trainer and she was like, 817 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 3: You're going to go and do three weight sessions a 818 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 3: week and that's it. And I was like I'm going 819 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 3: to die, Like how am I going to cope you know, 820 00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 3: doing so much less? And I was so scared. But 821 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 3: then for me, like the first week, I was like, 822 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 3: this is fantastic. I have so much more time, I 823 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,240 Speaker 3: have way more energy, and I can just see myself 824 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 3: being able to sustain this more long term. Like I 825 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 3: couldn't even imagine, you know, having a family or whatever 826 00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 3: and trying to work out. I'm six or seven days a. 827 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,239 Speaker 1: Week exactly, And you need to ask yourself with what 828 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 1: you were doing, especially in fitness and health, like you 829 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,319 Speaker 1: need to ask yourself, can I do this for the 830 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 1: rest of my life? Because if you can't, there's kind 831 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 1: of no point because at some point when you stop, 832 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,839 Speaker 1: your body is going to respond to that. So it's 833 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 1: like almost silly if you do these unrealistic things for 834 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: a certain amount of time, because you're going to have 835 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 1: to deal. 836 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 2: With the issues after. 837 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,880 Speaker 1: Like, it's just you need to think, can I sustain 838 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 1: this for the rest of my life? And yeah, if 839 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,800 Speaker 1: it's a yes, keep doing it. If it's no, change 840 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,880 Speaker 1: things around and get to a point when you can yes. 841 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 3: Love it all right, Georgie, we're on the last question. 842 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,799 Speaker 3: So as this podcast is called life Lessons, I have 843 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 3: to ask you what has been your biggest life lesson 844 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 3: to date so far? 845 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: Okay, so this is actually a bit of a recent one, 846 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 1: and I love this question. 847 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 2: Very good. You've had the best questions. 848 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,959 Speaker 1: Well, I usually like talk more about fitness and health 849 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 1: when I'm on a podcast, so I've loved that you've 850 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:29,360 Speaker 1: really gone like the business angles, So yeah, very cool. Anyway, 851 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,760 Speaker 1: moving on, so the biggest lesson and this has definitely 852 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 1: been something recent and it's kind of something like I've 853 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:40,359 Speaker 1: always known, but it's just become so clear, and that 854 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 1: is realizing that I create and design my own reality. 855 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 1: So everything that I have in life now is a 856 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 1: direct reflection on my actions previously, and everything that I 857 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,760 Speaker 1: will have in a future will be like the direct 858 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 1: reflections on what I do now. And that for me 859 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 1: was like mind blowing and it's so motivating because like, 860 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 1: how amazing that we actually are in control of our 861 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 1: own lives and we are so lucky, especially in Australia, 862 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 1: the choices we have in life to actually do what 863 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,319 Speaker 1: we want. Is like I really don't think we know 864 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 1: how lucky we are and that respect, and so now 865 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 1: like realizing that I do get to create my own 866 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 1: reality and my own life, Like I just I think 867 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,760 Speaker 1: it has been really good because I am so much 868 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 1: more like all my actions are aligned with my goals 869 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,319 Speaker 1: with you know, I have a vision board, and I've 870 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,839 Speaker 1: just realized that it's like it's not by chance, it's 871 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 1: not luck. We create our own reality. 872 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,879 Speaker 2: And how amazing is that? Like I'm just like, oh 873 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,360 Speaker 2: my god, this is great. 874 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 3: So literally listening to this podcast driving home, like right 875 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 3: before this interview, and it's so weird that you have 876 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,320 Speaker 3: said that, but it was this guy and he's talking 877 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 3: about your power. And he was like, I'm probably gonna 878 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 3: butcher this because I had this. This is not prepanned. 879 00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 3: But he was talking about, yeah, your power and the 880 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 3: only like, everybody has control and power over their life, 881 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,320 Speaker 3: and the only reason that people feel like they don't 882 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 3: is because they're living in this illusion that they can 883 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,880 Speaker 3: give that power to somebody else. And so he was 884 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,240 Speaker 3: talking about how, you know, you have to take responsibility 885 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,839 Speaker 3: of your own choices, and you are exactly where you 886 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 3: are because of every decision you have made leading up 887 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 3: to this point. So stop focusing on the past and 888 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 3: stop focusing too much on the future. Just focus on 889 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 3: what you can do today. So it's so weird you 890 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 3: said that. 891 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 2: I love that so much. 892 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 1: And the thing is that it's such a simple concept 893 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,319 Speaker 1: and I feel like we all know it, but when 894 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,279 Speaker 1: you actually put it in like place, it's like, it's 895 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 1: crazy how true it is. 896 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 2: But it is. 897 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 1: It's such a simple concept, but I feel like a 898 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,759 Speaker 1: lot of people aren't realizing it. 899 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:14,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. 900 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 2: It's like one of my favorite sayings is like step 901 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 2: into your power. 902 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,880 Speaker 3: M Yes, I know that is one of the themes 903 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,720 Speaker 3: of your podcast. So I love it. 904 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,480 Speaker 1: Tell me what podcast that is, because you're right up, 905 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 1: my Ali And yes. 906 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,840 Speaker 3: Actually, let me it's probably I'm like halfway through it. 907 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,880 Speaker 3: Let me let me look at it it is. Do 908 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:42,239 Speaker 3: you follow the Influencer podcast with Julie Solomon, Oh, get 909 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,440 Speaker 3: on it. It's really good. Everyone listening, get on it. 910 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:50,640 Speaker 3: But it was her latest one with James wed Moore 911 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 3: And yeah, anyway, it's really good. Have a little listen. 912 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,280 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Georgie, thank you so much for taking 913 00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 3: the time out and chatting with me today. I've absolutely 914 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,439 Speaker 3: loved this. This has gone way over what I thought 915 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,320 Speaker 3: it would, but I loved every second of it. And 916 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 3: I'm just so excited for everyone to hear all the 917 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 3: goodness that you shared today. 918 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 1: No problem at all. It has been my absolute pleasure 919 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,479 Speaker 1: and I have enjoyed it just as much. 920 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 3: All Right, I'll talk to you soon. 921 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:28,319 Speaker 1: Thanks Sarah, Thank you so much for listening in. If 922 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,759 Speaker 1: you like this episode, make sure you subscribe to the 923 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,040 Speaker 1: Rise and Conquer podcast so you don't miss the next one. 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