1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: The Driver's Show. You're a stic guy, like a bit 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: of stick. Just throttle it, Yeah, just really get onto it. 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: It's are we still talking about car power? 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: Mis nano Taylor oil over a century of engineering excellence 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: meets cutting edge nano scale technology. 6 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to The Driver's Show podcast. My name is Gordon 7 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: and this is my co host Pablo Morak. Hello. I 8 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: thought we'll take a professional approach this episode, and this 9 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: is how I will be talking. Good to see you 10 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: Gordon the entire time. Thank you. Obviously, this podcast is 11 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: no longer sponsored by it Amitsu now Volvelene. You know 12 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: what I mean? You know what I mean? Sometimes I 13 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: like to sit in my bath and soak in some 14 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: Velvelene Mortal oil as I rub that stuff all over 15 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: my called slippery old nipples. 16 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 3: How's this for funny? The other time I was here, 17 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 3: I had a polestar too, and inside this rental car 18 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 3: they had a sticker for the next service interval and 19 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 3: it was a Velveleene sticker. We're you going to pour that? 20 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: That's a really good point. 21 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was funny. 22 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: Okay, that's some That's and that was the news segment 23 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: we call Paul's Shitty tippit. 24 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 3: Oh thank you, Paul, speaking tidbits. Whatever happened to your 25 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 3: dad's stolen car? You remember how the police you couldn't 26 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 3: get the tracking stuff. Did they ever find the car? 27 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: No? But yeah, so the car was on it did it? 28 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 3: No? 29 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, well the car the tracking device. I should say, 30 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: I've got to be careful what I say here. Interesting 31 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: lawyer is no longer on the scene. 32 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 3: I thought she took. 33 00:01:54,160 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: Was that. No, she's not a leave, she's there's a 34 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: reason I'm saving this macas to feed a family anyway. 35 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: So anyway, this is generally where the wheels fall off. No, 36 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: so the tracking device of the vehicle pinged back to 37 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: the dealership he bought it from in a completely different state, 38 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: at the other end of Australia. Oh yeah, you didn't 39 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 1: know that, So I thought. 40 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 3: It pinged to the dealership in Melbourne. 41 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: No, he bought it. He bought this car from a dealership. 42 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: He's from Melbourne and he bought this car from I 43 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: won't say the exact one, but he bought it from 44 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: a dealership in Queensland. Because if I tell you which 45 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: one it is, you'll be able to know very very quickly. 46 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 3: Because okay, that must mean they just never set up 47 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 3: the tracking properly. 48 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: Because well, we hope. 49 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: So unlikely that the thief would go, I'm just going 50 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 3: to go get my car serviced. 51 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: Well maybe, or maybe maybe it was the dealership. Maybe 52 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 1: there's a lot of different things, so who knows. 53 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 3: That'd be interesting. 54 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: Who knows, maybe that dealership could be responsible for a 55 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: few things I don't know. 56 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 3: Out of a bicycle club, motorized bicycle club. 57 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: Maybe the cops kind of said, please just leave it 58 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: from now. Let's just you know this, this stuff happens 59 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: all the time. 60 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 3: I just don't worry about it. She'll be right. 61 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: Well, it's more like I think it was more like, 62 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: leave it to us. We'll ask the questions. Please don't 63 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: contact these people, don't do this, don't do that. 64 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 3: I ask the questions. It's been a long time now. 65 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: Nah, I don't think they did. And well they might have, 66 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think it was very much like, 67 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: let's just insurance has paid it out. Yeah, so I 68 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: think once you kind of if you don't close these 69 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: cases and move on to the thousands of other things 70 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: they've got going on, they're just going to get bogged 71 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: down and shit I mean, Mercedes made it so fucking hard, 72 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: so absolutely impossible to track that car. The fact that 73 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: they didn't turn it on for two and a half 74 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: weeks after police had asked them repeatedly, the fucking police, 75 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: the pole leaks ask them to turn this thing on 76 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: repeatedly in emails and on the phone, and they just 77 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: blatantly refused. 78 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: How's the irony They market it as a tracking tool. 79 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 3: The second you need to use your fucking tracking tool, 80 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 3: you cannot figure out how to turn this thing on. 81 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 3: What is the point. 82 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: I'm also surprised that it didn't like that if this 83 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: was a dealer responsibility, a dealership responsibility. I remember talking 84 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: to Landrover about this and their car has already come 85 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: with it. 86 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 3: Well, when I picked up Dad's Ranger, which has connected services, 87 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 3: before you leave the dealership, they're obliged to set it 88 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 3: up for you to activate. 89 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: The mode, and that's on the app, that's on everything. 90 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 3: The dealership before you leave, which in theory they would 91 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 3: have had to have done with the BENS. I wouldn't 92 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: see why they wouldn't do it, given you've got the 93 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 3: bloody service. 94 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, just a shit form. Anyway, He's loving his 95 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: brand Toyota Parto. 96 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 3: Well, can I tell you about his new toyde Prato 97 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 3: or loves at general. 98 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Toyotas in general are getting stolen, ton't they. 99 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 3: It's out of control. So Victoria, We've spoken about this 100 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 3: previously about the huge amount of car theft going on 101 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 3: in Victoria with Classic holdens and stuff. Now the thieves 102 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 3: have switched to Toyotas. So two hundred series land Cruiser Prato, 103 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 3: so previous generation, current generation Corolla Colas or eighty six. 104 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 3: They are getting stolen in huge numbers. Highlux. Highlux is 105 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 3: the most stolen car in Victoria at the moment, is 106 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 3: it really? It's something like two or three a day 107 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 3: are getting stolen. 108 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: Wow. 109 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 3: And they're using the same tool, that cheap tool that 110 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 3: you can get off the marketplace, hem and stuff. Yeah, 111 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 3: that they were using for the holdens on all of 112 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 3: these Toyotas. And it's a clever strategy in the sense 113 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 3: because if you steal a Classic Holden, it stands out 114 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 3: a lot, whereas if you steal a White land Cruiser 115 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 3: or a White Camri, no one can tell it apart 116 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 3: from the other White Camri. They clone the play and 117 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: they drive around in this stolen car. And what they're 118 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 3: increasingly using the two hundred series for is for ram 119 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 3: raids and also for stealing other vehicles on stolen trailers. 120 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 3: So they'll steal a trailer most Land cruises will have 121 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 3: a towbar. They'll hitch on, steal a car, whack it 122 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 3: on the trailer and away they go. So it is 123 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 3: just on another level at the moment in terms of 124 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 3: how bad it is. 125 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: So they are they tolling a car with a stolen car. 126 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 3: Yep, Yeah it's crazy, but you would never know because 127 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 3: they'll clone a plate and to the naked eye, it's 128 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 3: just some like driving down the road with a car 129 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 3: on the back. So yeah, it is just crazy. So 130 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 3: if you do drive a Toyota, Toyota is being extremely 131 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 3: unhelpful with this, like you know, to me, I kind 132 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 3: of was very disappointed with the GM response to us 133 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 3: that they kind of just don't give a shit. And Okay, 134 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 3: to a degree, I get it. Holden's on on sale 135 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 3: here hasn't met on sale for a while. They clearly 136 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 3: don't care about Australia. Whatever, Toyota, you are still selling 137 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 3: some of these cars, like you are still selling Corollas, 138 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: in that shape, the RAB four in that shape. They 139 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 3: can all be stolen using this tool. And while a 140 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 3: lot of new toyotas have connected services, a lot of 141 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 3: the older ones don't. And these cars that are still 142 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 3: in warranty, and I think. 143 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: They see that's my big thing. If it's still in 144 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: warranty and they're refusing to do or fix what is 145 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: effectively a bug. Yeah, it's a bug. 146 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 3: Well, it is inherently an issue with if you look 147 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 3: at this holistically, a two hundred series land Cruiser ended 148 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 3: production a few years ago. Before that, it was on 149 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 3: sale for ten more ten or more years at that 150 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: ten year mark. Ten years prior to it going to 151 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 3: it wrapping up being on sale, they would have had 152 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 3: engineers working on the security system, which would have been 153 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 3: maybe two or three years before that. So you're talking 154 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: about a security system now that is about twenty years old. 155 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 3: So by that point people have reverse engineered this stuff 156 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 3: and clearly set up tools that are cheap to buy 157 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 3: and easy to steal these cars with. So when you 158 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 3: look at it from that point of view, you need 159 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: to be doing better by your customers now and maybe 160 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 3: incentivize them to come in for a service at a 161 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 3: Toyota dealership where you fit this fix. You know, they 162 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 3: have smart engineers, they can fix this stuff. 163 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: So here's what I'd say. We're at an issue where 164 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: Toyota is not fixing them, right, So what do people do? 165 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: What is the fix to this? 166 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 3: So there's two devices. There's a ghost to a Nigla. 167 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 3: Both of these are types of immobilizers. Both of these 168 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 3: at this stage can't be stolen by thieves, and at 169 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 3: least I'm sure they can. But they can't be stolen 170 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 3: by the majority of thieves because the people that are 171 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 3: stealing these cars are as dumb as dogshit. They don't 172 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 3: actually know really what they're doing. All they've seen is 173 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 3: on the internet. Their mates send them a link to 174 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 3: this device that can steal cars, so they just go And. 175 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: I think, I actually think some of them are fairly 176 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: fucking smart. I think the people who stole my dad's 177 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: car fucking knew what was up. 178 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think that's just more brazen. If you 179 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 3: don't if you steal a car that potentially has connected services, 180 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 3: like you are dumb because while you do that. So 181 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 3: I think that that is a level of brazenness. But 182 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: these people that are stealing. These aren't all that sophisticated 183 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 3: because a lot of them are joy riding in them, 184 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 3: which just doesn't It's just stupid thing to do if 185 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 3: you don't want to stand out. 186 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: So you don't think they're reselling and doing all that 187 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: sort of stuff Wreckers and stuff, especially if it's a 188 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: Toyota Wrap four and a look. 189 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: They might be, but it's not the market that is 190 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 3: classic V eights. There's so many parts available for all 191 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 3: those cars at Wreckers that I don't know that you'd 192 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 3: get the like an LS three. You just cannot buy 193 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 3: ls's anymore. So this is where they're getting a lot 194 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 3: of money from. So yeah, I think that a lot 195 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 3: of this just comes down to Toyota needing to do better. 196 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 3: And I will emphasize as well, this isn't limited to 197 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 3: Toyota super heaps of STIs are getting stolen, Wrx's, Lavorg's 198 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 3: this this is a thing that is happening to a 199 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 3: lot of different car brands. If it has a push 200 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 3: button start, it can probably be stolen. 201 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: It's crazy. Oh, speaking of the subs, they just released 202 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: the new Forester. You see the new Look out back. 203 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 3: What the fuck like an outback used to be a wagon. 204 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 3: The latest one got a little bit bigger. This one. 205 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 3: I just do not understand, Like what it makes no 206 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 3: sense to me, really makes no sense. 207 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: What do you mean? What don't you like about it? Sorry? 208 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: Just keep going, keep talking. It looks tragic, the new outback. 209 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: What don't you like about it? What are you googling? No, 210 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm searching. Someone's at my front door anyway. 211 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 1: What we're saying? Superos? Yeah? Oh sorry, sorry, mates, some 212 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: Katie Lang's playing. I'm sorry. I just you got any 213 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: Scissor sisters. The outback is really good. Sorry, I don't 214 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: know why. I think it's every time you say super 215 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 1: or outback, Katie Lang. 216 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 3: Starts playing on my phone. 217 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: I don't know why that's that's so random anyway. So 218 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: I actually I was thinking about the new Supero outback. 219 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 3: And oh jesus, Missy Higgins is playing. 220 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: I thought that's weird. I don't know why that's happened anyway. So, okay, 221 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. That's enough. Jeez, unbelievable anyway, anyway, 222 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: So I'm not I'm looking at the super back. Yes, 223 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: So anyway, I was, I was looking at the new 224 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: design of that super hour back and the fucking scissors 225 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: is a plague? How random is. 226 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 4: That I get in my super room when I lock 227 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 4: my wist big for the muff? 228 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: Oh hey, so did you see this? This popped across 229 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: my desk the other week? The Apple Cup play in 230 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: the Auston Martin. I don't have I do have a 231 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: desk out there by the way. 232 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 3: Yes, we're in the studio that Gordon works in. 233 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the desk over there is the one that 234 00:11:55,760 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: looks like it hasn't been used in the twelve months 235 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: we've been in this building because it hasn't. I don't 236 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: use my desk. I just waltzed into the studio. What's up, guys, girls, 237 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: good old ladies. Oh, come on, it's like seagulls fighting 238 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: over a chip in here. Take a ticket and wait 239 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: in life, the deli is ready for business. Yes, Apple 240 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: Car plays, that was just that's just how this random 241 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: salami you get in here? Oh my god? Sorry, okay, 242 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: so yes, listen of Apple car play in the Aston Martin, 243 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: which is not just like normal Apple car play. It's 244 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: a real interface. 245 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 3: Take over there running and the speedo, everything infotainment, And 246 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 3: this is. 247 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: Kind of what we've been talking about for ages. I 248 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: know Trevor was sort of predicting this that Apple will 249 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: concentrate more on the interface than their Apple cars that 250 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: that were doing. 251 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 3: Can I tell you why this is fun and it's 252 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 3: a bad idea? 253 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: The other day is so negative? 254 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 3: The other day I got an update for my iPhone 255 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: and the lead line on that update was a Pride 256 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 3: wallpaper that they're rolling out. What they haven't fixed, though, 257 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 3: is the fucked camera that doesn't work when car plays running, 258 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 3: the phone that just randomly freezes so you can't type shit, 259 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 3: the phone that won't charge sometimes. This thing has become 260 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 3: a piece of shit. Come Tim Cook, I'm telling you, 261 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 3: has fucked that company so badly and they've completely taken 262 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 3: their eye off creating a phone that works. So my 263 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 3: concern is if the Apple car play inside that car 264 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 3: is as shit as my phone is now, and there's 265 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 3: a brand new phone with the latest software update, I mean, 266 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 3: what good is that going to be when it just 267 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 3: all stops working. 268 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: An interview with Zuckerberg and he said similar stuff, not 269 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: quite to that ELK, but. 270 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 3: He was talking about vision Pro. 271 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, well he was talking about Apple as a company 272 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: haven't exactly invented anything great. 273 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 3: No Vision Pro was Tim Cook's thing, and it's shit. 274 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 3: It's expensive and useless. So when you look at how 275 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 3: bad that company is now that he's in charge, it's 276 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 3: like they need a Steve Jobs back in there, someone 277 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 3: who is willing to go, Okay, we're going to stop 278 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 3: all the woke bullshit and we're going to go back 279 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 3: to actually doing phones the work instead of focusing on 280 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 3: all this other crap. All that other crap can come 281 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 3: when I can type shit on my phone and the 282 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 3: camera works until that point. 283 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: Your ecosystem, though, having said that, is still very much 284 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: This is what shits me because it's all Apple. 285 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 3: But I'm going to get to the point where this 286 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 3: thing when I need to fire it up to film 287 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 3: a video and it shits itself again, I'm just gonna Yeah, 288 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 3: I'm going to crack it and just go get an Android, which. 289 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: I would recommend. I actually recommend it some of the 290 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: Google The Google phones were great. I loved my Google phone. 291 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: The only reason why I moved to an iPhone was 292 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: because it was just easier for social media stuff. But 293 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: now that they're all pretty much but fairly equal, And 294 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: this also. 295 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 3: Links back into the discussion we had in the last 296 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 3: episode about tariffs and Apple, and there's a bit of 297 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 3: a side step here, but because he's had his eye 298 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 3: off the game and he has been I listened to 299 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 3: a season of the Land of the Giants, which is 300 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 3: basically investigate companies, and Apple was one that they did 301 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 3: it on, and this was recorded years ago before this 302 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 3: tariff stuff, and they literally said in that that because 303 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 3: they are driving their supplies so hard in China, everyone 304 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 3: is a contractor, they try and extract as much margin 305 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 3: as they can out of this phone. If there is 306 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 3: ever a trade war, Apple is fucked. And that is 307 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 3: precisely what's happened now. Because he's been greedy and just 308 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 3: wanting all these big profits, the issue has now become 309 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 3: that he is going to face a massive loss or 310 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 3: have to jack the price of the phone up, which 311 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 3: you can only do so much of. Even now, this 312 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 3: phone is like a two and a half thousand dollars thing, 313 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 3: which is insane. If you want to make that a 314 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 3: three thousand dollars thing, I think it is really going 315 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 3: to be a struggle for people to actually justify that anyone. 316 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, it's fucking It's only two hundred bucks to 317 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: fix that broken thing. 318 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 3: But yeah, and that's the other thing as well. They're 319 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 3: so disposable that if I can be on Apple Care 320 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 3: for twenty whatever dollars a month and go throw this 321 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 3: off the building here and then just go get a 322 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 3: new one, it shows you how disposable they are and 323 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 3: how much money they make off each one of these phones. 324 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and some of the horrific stuff you hear 325 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 3: about the factories that these people work in isn't like. 326 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: Things like the screen. This is supplied by Samsung. 327 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, the screen, I don't know. The Land of the Giants. 328 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 3: Thing I was listening to is older. I don't know 329 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 3: if it's now Samsung, but they basically the IP behind 330 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 3: the screen and scratch proof. And I use air quotes 331 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 3: here because this thing is anything that scratch. It is 332 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 3: covered in scratches and I don't do anything like it 333 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 3: sits in my pocket with no keys or anything, and 334 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 3: it's like. 335 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: You put the glass protector thing on it. 336 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 3: But why why not make a screen that. 337 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: Isn't shit because the reality is they do. 338 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 3: Okay, well, then you don't say it's scratchproof, yeah, but. 339 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: It is it is. It isn't scratchproof, So why need 340 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: you just buy yourself a forty dollars. 341 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 3: Screen, Why should I I've bought your phone. I'm spending 342 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 3: twenty five bucks a month on Apple Care because you 343 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 3: know it's cheap to get it replaced. Yes, and I've 344 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 3: got a not scratchproof screen, but I'm now going to 345 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 3: need to get replaced. 346 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: It's a forty dollars thing and you don't have to. 347 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 3: You won't get But imagine if you bought a car 348 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 3: and they're like, oh, look it's fine, but you need 349 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 3: to buy this thing for the engine to just work 350 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 3: as it should. 351 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that happens a lot when well. 352 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 3: What do you have to buy with a car that 353 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 3: they claim that it just doesn't do? 354 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: But how many people modify their cars to make it better. 355 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 3: You can do that. But this is the key item 356 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 3: is the screen. You say it's scratchproof, but if I 357 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 3: run my finger across it, it is full of scratches. Yeah, 358 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 3: so it's not scratchproof. And I don't necessarily like, I 359 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 3: don't go and scratch this on surfaces. I would never 360 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: do that. So how is it if I treat my phone? Well, 361 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 3: was it already scratched? 362 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: I'm worried about your health and I think you're going 363 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: to have cholesterol problems, and I think you should. Well, look, 364 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: let me make some calls. Let's see if I can get. 365 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 3: I do apologize for that rant, but I just think 366 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 3: Apple has turned into a ship company anyway. 367 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: And that's what really grinds his gears Apple. Okay, Well, 368 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: we were going to talk about the the the Apple 369 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: car play in the Aston Martin. I'm look, I'm interested, 370 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: I think, and I think Apple car play is if 371 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:35,239 Speaker 1: it works well in a car, it makes life so 372 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: much easier. 373 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 3: I just hope they have the a team on it. 374 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: That's all all right? Oh hey, did you say JAG 375 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: has rumored to have split with that marketing company? Why 376 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: you're on your little rats. I'd love to know what 377 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: you think it is. Yeah, who would have thought? 378 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 3: Bullshit work? Marketing didn't work out? 379 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: It didn't work? Wow? Wow. And and the fact that 380 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: they were saying that they're going completely original, yet their 381 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: new logo is a complete roop off of the Beats font. 382 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 3: It's honestly, you just look at it and you're like 383 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 3: you you don't need to be a rocket signist to 384 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 3: see that that was never gonna work. 385 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: The physical concepts that they put out, Well, they're not concept, 386 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: they're arguably the actual car, right. I kind of see 387 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: that they want to make sexy and almost unattainable again, 388 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: you know, cars that people dream about owning. You know. 389 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: Then you see these rappers they want to kind of 390 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: hone in on that social media culture. They had that 391 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 1: Barry Kadogan Ordogan, they had John Cadogan, they had social 392 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: media superstar John Kodogan do their marketing. Get a fucker's 393 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: I shaved my bloody pubes with this razor inside this 394 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: fucking car. That was impressions. That wasn't bad. But yeah, 395 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: Barry Keogan, I think his name is. He's from salts Burn, Saltburn. 396 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: Did you watch that? They spent a lot of their 397 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 1: marketing and a lot on this launch, and wow, what 398 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: a way to not do things. 399 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 3: You know what I reckon has happened unofficially. I think Tata, 400 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 3: who owns JLR. You know, you look at the execs 401 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 3: at Tata. I think they're fairly conservative. I reckon they 402 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 3: would have looked at this and gone, who the fuck 403 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 3: approved this? And stop it at once, And they're trying 404 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 3: to slowly walk their way out of it. I think 405 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 3: they're locked in with that car design and all the 406 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 3: other craft that comes with it, because it's now at 407 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 3: the driving engineering stage. But I think they will see 408 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 3: the marketing have a swift change because I do think 409 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 3: it's embarrassing for the brand and they Tata bought the 410 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 3: brand because it had so much heritage and they have 411 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 3: viscerated that heritage. 412 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: Is it fixable? That's the question. I think this will 413 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: take years. 414 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 3: Well, firstly, no one is buying luxury electric cars, so 415 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 3: there's your first mistake. So they're not going to sell 416 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 3: any just based on that alone. So I think that 417 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 3: even if it is good, it's it's just not going 418 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 3: to sell. So sang Yong is now known as in 419 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 3: Australia KGM KGM, which is very GM. 420 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: What does that stand for? It's to build your dream situation? 421 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 3: Is that so KG mobility? 422 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 1: Oh my god? They fucking what? That sounds like a 423 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: care facility kind of does it does? It's like we 424 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: bought you a wheelchair. They're nevil. It's the latest k GM, 425 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: the camability. 426 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 3: So the genesis is that sang Yong part of KG. 427 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: KGM. 428 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 3: So kg Sanyong became part of the KG group. They 429 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 3: were then known as KGM sang Yong Okay, then, and 430 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 3: the Sanyong brand dates back to like nineteen fifties. It 431 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 3: then became KGM Australia from June one. 432 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: Funk, why don't we even need chat GPT but we've 433 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: just got Pavlo. 434 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, so anyway, they tell me. 435 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: More about the history of kg What else have you 436 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: got there? 437 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 3: They announced it at the same time as they announced 438 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 3: the kg acton, which actually looks interesting. 439 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 4: Show me. 440 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 3: It's like a sort of very futuristic RoboCop style. 441 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: Really looks like it looks like a Pergo. Yeah. 442 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, look, I think it's a brand that has 443 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 3: fairly struggle struggles for relevance in Australia, and I think 444 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 3: giving it an obscure, random name isn't going to help. 445 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: Well, it's an interesting take because they yeah, I mean 446 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: Fu Sangyong. They they're bringing out sort of affordable cars 447 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: if you like. And then the little progress they've made, 448 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: they've kind of got to start again with a complete rebrand. 449 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 3: This comment wasn't kg M an eighties rapper. 450 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: With a big shirt. 451 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 3: You've worked with it a mitsu before at their launch event, right. 452 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: I did? I did, Mate, I went to their launch event. 453 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: I am seated. Actually your boy mceed it hosted the 454 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: whole thing, very nice, delicious Japanese restaurant. But I'm really impressed. 455 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 1: I'm really impressed. These guys have been leaders in oil 456 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: innovation for over a century. You know, they're the ones 457 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: trusted by Toyota and Mazda to deliver precision engineered oils 458 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: straight from the factory, and now now they are bringing 459 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: the same expertise to ossie drivers. What stood out to 460 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: you the most, well, a lot did actually pavel, thank 461 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: you for asking that non prompted question, and it was 462 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: their nanotailored oil, which is why we're here, because this 463 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 1: stuff is next level. And now they don't just make 464 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: generic who ha products. No, no, not these guys. Every 465 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: formula is designed with purpose. For example, let me tell 466 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: you something. The IFG three this stuff is perfect for 467 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: city driver. This is what you want for city driving. 468 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: This is your stop start traffic, the stuff that puts 469 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: stress on your engine. But then there's the IFG seven 470 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: this is the stuff for your beast pavlay the high 471 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: performance vehicles seven layers of protection seven I sound a 472 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: bit New Zealand. Seven layers of protection anyway, they've got 473 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: no cleansing tech. It stops oil breakdown and it even 474 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: just sorts it in the harshest condition. So if you're 475 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: driving a Japanese car, the IFG five, oh, that stuff 476 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: is built for precision engineered engines. It's offering five layers 477 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: of protection to keep your engine clean and running smoothly. 478 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 3: So that sounds like a lot of attention to detail. 479 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: Oh so much detail, so much I nearly forgot it all. 480 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: But the IFG seven isn't just oil. Just know that, 481 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: because it's like giving your engine a custom suit of armor, 482 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: like a little massage as well. It doesn't just protect 483 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 1: your engine, it optimizes performance. If you're into keeping your 484 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: car in and it's absolute best nick possible. This is 485 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: the oil you want, and now it's easy to get too. 486 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: It is very easy. Are you ready for the longest 487 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: website I've ever had to read? Out Here, we go 488 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: au dot in AMTSU slash no no slash tailored slashoil 489 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: dot com. I said to it, amits you as it. Guys, 490 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 1: don't give me that. Let's just tell them that if 491 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: they search out in AMIDSU Australia on the Googles they'll 492 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: find where they're going. You know what I'm saying, they'll 493 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: ship it straight to or no fast, top tier oil 494 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: wherever you are. OK. 495 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 3: If it's good enough for manufacturers like Toyota and mazdav and, 496 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 3: it sounds good enough for me. 497 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: M exactly. You know, with INAMIDSU, you're getting oil that's 498 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: designed to handle whatever you throw it at it. They've 499 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: been trusted for the best part of over one hundred years. 500 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. Look in Amitsu taking you beyond engine protection to 501 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 3: real driving excitement. 502 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 1: I think I could read that better. You ready it? 503 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: Omitsu taking you beyond engine protection to real driving excitement? 504 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: Was that good? 505 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 506 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: Hey, I saw an old mate during the week, one 507 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: who I haven't seen in quite a long time, and 508 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: I was excited to catch up. A bit awkward because 509 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: I know they had a face left. O. God, can 510 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: you imagine, Trevor, I'm wearing a fucking girdle. 511 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 3: Now, have a look at me. 512 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: He looks like a court drawing. But it's been quite 513 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: generous and that's it. That's that's where it ends with that. 514 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: He just looks like a court drawing. That he looks like, 515 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: he looks like if a homeless man imagined themselves getting 516 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: their life together. I love you. Trevy was supposed to 517 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: be here this week, so anyway. 518 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 3: And why doesn't want to be here? 519 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: I don't know why. We had macas and everything. Yeah fuck, 520 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: can you imagine if this stuff, this macas would not 521 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: have lasted long. If Trevor's here. 522 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 3: There are four person bases. 523 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: He would have he would have he would have poured 524 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: this large chips into Donna's belly button and just needed 525 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: like a dog. 526 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 3: Wow, that was that was good. You got him there. 527 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 3: It's like it's just like a dog. 528 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: Last time he was here, he was dragging his arms 529 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: on the car, but I had to fucking hit him 530 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: with the rolled up newspaper. No, so I did catch 531 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: up with an old mate who had a face left. 532 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the Toyota eighty six baby. Oh yeah, yeah, 533 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: it'd been wild. It had been a bloody hot minute. 534 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: And you know, I always liked the Toyota eighty six's. 535 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: I always thought that were good cars. I mean I 536 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: preferred them over the subib z R or b Z 537 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: or whatever. But it is still just a brilliant, engaging, 538 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: clean cut sports car. There's no rits about it. There's 539 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: no fluff, it's just it still has that two point 540 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: four flat four. When you look at these numbers, one 541 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy four kilowatts, two hundred and fifty new 542 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 1: meters of talk zero to one hundred and six point 543 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: three seconds. On paper, they're not that impressive, but when 544 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: you drive this thing around, it proves that they don't 545 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: need to be. They're a perfect example of numbers don't 546 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: necessarily sell cars, and and that's. 547 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 3: Why this and the stuff like the m X five 548 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 3: Kindness still just work. People buy them because you know, 549 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 3: they just do the job. 550 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: Oh what I mean, they're engaging, they're not a ton 551 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: of money. They fill the road so well, and they've 552 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: got they're almost intuitive to the driver the way they corner. 553 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: They're just such a great car. They don't need to be. 554 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: They don't need to have buckets of power. And as 555 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: I said, yes, they're just clean cut, real will drive 556 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: the interior there is nothing. I mean, the one I 557 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: had had cloth everywhere, and I thought about that. I mean, 558 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: I guess a lot of people in that sort of 559 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: boy racer kind of group will take those seats out 560 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: anyway and chuck some sports seats in there. They're not 561 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: obviously electric seats or anything. But what a fucking great car. 562 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: Just a really fun car. 563 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 3: I mean, it's just one of the few examples of 564 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 3: just being able to just drive around and have fun. Yeah, 565 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 3: not have to spend a mega amount of money, No, 566 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,479 Speaker 3: you know, and for a lot of people's that's important 567 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 3: at the moment, so why not. 568 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, it's modest and honest. And at the 569 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: same time, I thought to myself, does this thing need 570 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: a turbo? And I don't think it does. I think 571 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: it would loser. 572 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 3: And that's the thing they've resisted for so long out 573 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 3: of get turbo. And it's like, you just don't really 574 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 3: need it for that. If you want to go do it, 575 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 3: you'll do it on your own, but you necessarily need it, 576 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 3: And I think that's the that's the impressive part of it. 577 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: And I think it still sounds pretty good too. You 578 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: could possibly add an exhaust if you wanted to, if 579 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: you wanted a more gutsier sound, but it probably doesn't 580 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,239 Speaker 1: need it. I have, you know what, I even had 581 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: the auto and at the start, I know, no, I know, 582 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: and I'm telling you now I got proven wrong, Like 583 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: it wasn't maybe look maybe for me because it was 584 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: a daily it was I was doing it in traffic. 585 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is great, this is really good. 586 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: And the paddle shifters they still work fine. M M 587 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: M eighty six. Baby, you're a stick gay, You're like 588 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: a bit of stick. Just throttle it, yeah, just really 589 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: onto it. It's are we still talking about car? 590 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 3: Done with here? 591 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: Now we're done without? Hey, Porsche mccahn, the EV. You've 592 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: the EV Porsche mccahn. You've had this for what a 593 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: couple of weeks now, and I'm keen to get your 594 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: thoughts on it because I remember at the launchers there 595 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: was some impressive stuff going on. The speed behind them 596 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: was good. And the McCann is an interesting Porsche because 597 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: it's the car that keeps Porsche going. It kind of 598 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: keeps the lights on. If you're like, it's the car 599 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: that kind of saved them back in the day, or 600 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: one of the cars that saved them back in the day, 601 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: and we're in a new era now. 602 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 3: I think they've made a critical error on that front. 603 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 3: McCarn was something like half of their sales volume and 604 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 3: they killed the internal combustion one and gambled everything onto 605 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 3: this fully electric one with no other option. They have 606 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 3: come out as part of their last investor updates saying 607 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 3: that they're working on another internal combustion small suv which 608 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 3: they will give a different name to. It won't be 609 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 3: called a McCarn. And look, when I went to the launch, 610 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 3: I was sort of fairly impressed with it. You know, 611 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 3: they were very smooth roads, and I thought, now, wait 612 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 3: till we get it back to Australia. And I guess 613 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 3: part of the problem I've got with this This is 614 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 3: a base McCarn. And unfortunately, for whatever reason, we let 615 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 3: one of our junior staff configure the car. And you know, 616 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 3: I just would never choose these options because of the 617 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 3: results of what this car is. 618 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: I saw those options, like it's. 619 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 3: Got ninety thousand dollars of options on a car that 620 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 3: has a base prize one hundred and twenty or something, 621 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 3: which I just think is outrageous anyway, because my Carn 622 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 3: used to be a small stretch for someone from a 623 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 3: Q five. Now it's this enormous leap, comes with nothing 624 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,479 Speaker 3: standard and you look at the car and you're like, 625 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 3: I could see where you've added maybe ten grand worth 626 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 3: of options. How did you get to ninety thousand dollars 627 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 3: in options. You know, he specs it with twenty two's 628 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 3: the performance tire option, which makes the car skip along 629 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 3: the road when you do like a tight U turn 630 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 3: in the cold, which is just entirely unacceptable. The ride, 631 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,959 Speaker 3: it rides like a boat, it tramlines. It really is 632 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 3: just unimpressive in that spec What was. 633 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: The what a color was interior? Was it like? It 634 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: wasn't red? Red? And it wasn't red. 635 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 3: And this is the thing. We did a configure out 636 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,239 Speaker 3: a challenge and our readers picked that one. So it 637 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 3: wasn't his full that he configured it that way, but 638 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 3: I would just I don't know why Porsche went ahead 639 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 3: with that, because this car, when you drive it, it's 640 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 3: just not impressive. So and all of that stuff adds 641 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 3: together to then affect the range as well. So I've 642 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 3: done a fair bit of driving in it, and I 643 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 3: wanted to see what the range would be like. So 644 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 3: it's pretty cold down in Melbourne at the moment. And 645 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 3: started off one hundred percent, did three hundred and seventy 646 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 3: k's battery got down to eighteen percent and was averaging 647 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 3: over twenty kilo what hours per hundred ks, and I'm like, 648 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 3: that is a lot for what is meant to be 649 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 3: a high tech, efficient expensive car too, So it means 650 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 3: that realistically you're getting four hundred k's of driving range 651 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 3: out of a battery, and this is marketed as having 652 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 3: over six hundred k's in that base, which is the 653 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 3: lightest configuration. 654 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: So I don't know. 655 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 3: To me, I just think that that they've missed a 656 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 3: trick with it, and. 657 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: It's disappointing because they're a great car, the S, the 658 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: gts and like, they're all good. 659 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 3: I'll see what it's like to drive another Speck, but 660 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 3: just for the mar Like, there is no way I'd 661 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 3: spend two hundred plus on roads on this particular car. 662 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: And so hang on, let me just pause you there. 663 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: So how much so you said this was a base car. 664 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: How much was this going base before you added like 665 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: the ninety thousand worth of options to it? I think 666 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: it's like what one twenty something? Yeah, yeah, that is 667 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: a big step up from what the Q five. 668 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, So yeah, here we go. So starts at one 669 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 3: twenty eight four hundred, so pretty much one thirty plus 670 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 3: on roads, so it's jumped thirty three grand. 671 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: And then you realistically turned it into a two hundred 672 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: and ten thousand dollars car. 673 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 3: Plus on roads. So two hundred and fifty k in 674 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 3: this thing, and I do not see it well even 675 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 3: the I'm going to pull the key. 676 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: Out, so you guys obviously round this experiment. 677 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 3: Give me a lot cheap? Does that look? So you 678 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 3: have to pay something like six or eight hundred dollars 679 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 3: to customize the key? Ah, that looks like just a base. 680 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's plastic. Usually these are beautiful with the they 681 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 1: almost have a shellac coating on them, if you like, 682 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: and they usually color them in the same car. 683 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 3: Maybe that's a spare key for the car or something. 684 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 3: I don't know, but it just that looks cheap. 685 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: I've never seen this before, like I've never seen one. 686 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:17,280 Speaker 1: Look this cheap. Oh that's basic? Boys, shit, look at that? Yeah? 687 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: So has he got a fronk? 688 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 3: Yes? Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Just just a bit 689 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 3: disappointed in the car even just interior space. Not much 690 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 3: room inside and if you want to buy it as 691 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 3: a family car, my daughter's seat in it, Like you 692 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 3: barely fit anything else. 693 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: In the boot when you've got a pram in there. Yeah, 694 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: not much leg room in the rear. They haven't improved 695 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: the boot room at all. 696 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 3: Just yeah, it's I don't know, really not that impressed. Unfortunately. 697 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: I know there caman ev is coming out soon, and 698 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: I'm really hoping they don't fucking ass up that up that. 699 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 3: Up even that. It's like, why are you doing this? 700 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? 701 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 3: Who's asked you to do this? 702 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:54,919 Speaker 1: Yeah? 703 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 3: Your customers haven't. No, what are you doing it for? 704 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 3: I just find it really odd. It's a very poor 705 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 3: business decision, definitely, But I just hope it doesn't. 706 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: I know them, they're trying to meet European emission standards, 707 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: so aren't they. Yeah, I mean. 708 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 3: They're meeting all their trading credits and stuff. But actually 709 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 3: here you go, so looking at their stock, I mean 710 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 3: this tells you everything you need to know at Porsche 711 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 3: is now publicly this company. Their stock over the past 712 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 3: year is down forty percent, So I think that that 713 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 3: kind of just tells you everything you need to know. 714 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 3: Your investors don't think it's a good idea any of 715 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 3: this stuff. And a lot of this downward activity started 716 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 3: end of last year, so it's just and then from 717 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,439 Speaker 3: March this year onwards, it has just capitulated. 718 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: If they literally were under the thumb from the EU. 719 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,720 Speaker 1: They should really be making that more public because let's 720 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 1: just say they've been having to sit on this for 721 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: at least let's say seven years. At that point they 722 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,800 Speaker 1: could easily argue and go, what EV has just gone 723 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: ballistic apart from a Tesla. Well, that's actually I just 724 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 1: took myself out of that because seven years ago Tesla 725 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:08,240 Speaker 1: was fucking booming. 726 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 3: But if you want to compare it to other car 727 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 3: companies BMW, who's also publicly listed over the past year, 728 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 3: their share prices down thirteen percent. So yes, you have 729 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 3: a downward trajectory across all the companies, But thirteen percent 730 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 3: versus forty forty plus, I mean, that's a that's a 731 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 3: big difference, all right. 732 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: Question This one comes from Durant's construction the Big three 733 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: F one, fifty, fifteen hundred and Z one slash two. 734 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: Which one would you pick for your garage and why? So? 735 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: Our choices are the F one, fifty YEP, the fifteen 736 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: hundred RAM YEP, and the Silverado. I'm guessing YEP, Z 737 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: one slash two. 738 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 3: I'd be For me, it would be probably the Chevy 739 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 3: because I love the V eight. I know it's not 740 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 3: the fastest there, but it sounds great. The RAM fifteen 741 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,919 Speaker 3: hundred of the new turbo charge c goes like shit 742 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,279 Speaker 3: off a shovel. It is incredibly fast. So if he 743 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 3: wants the quickest pickup truck out there, that's it. The 744 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 3: Forward I just think it feels pretty low rent. And 745 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 3: there is going to be a version of the F 746 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,879 Speaker 3: one fifty the Platinum coming, which should definitely elevate things, 747 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 3: so that should be here as part of a face leaf. 748 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: I want to say the F one fifty generally, they 749 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,399 Speaker 1: are such an iconic, beautiful like you get a big 750 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:30,320 Speaker 1: black one fifty. They are stunning. I had the Chevy 751 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 1: Silverado over a couple of months over Christmas and I 752 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,240 Speaker 1: loved it, loved it, So I'd be picking that. Yeah, okay, 753 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 1: I'd be picking that now. Two for the ship you 754 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: they've got a follow up question also also, is Pablo 755 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 1: keeping Donna in the back of the Shark six? Is 756 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: this why it can't get up the Heill? 757 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 3: No, it should help it because it would be a 758 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 3: lot more weight. You'd be at payload. 759 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 1: I don't know about your payload. Thoughts on the twenty 760 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,439 Speaker 1: twenty six Yen Day Palisade. Great question they're coming from 761 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:02,280 Speaker 1: Liam Leaf. 762 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 3: God, it looks good, looks great, looks so bloody good. 763 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,399 Speaker 3: I think that yondy. The Santa Fe knocked it out 764 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 3: of the park in terms of interior. Looks so good. 765 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 3: I think palis Abe will take it to another level. 766 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 3: So I haven't driven it yet, but very much looking 767 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 3: forward to it. 768 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I think the Santa Fe was three 769 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: quarters good on the outside. Yeah. I look the back 770 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: end and they've been on the roads for quite a 771 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: while now, that's sort of them. What's that you get 772 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: used to get used to them. They're fine. I think 773 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: they're a great looking car. They drive fucking so well. 774 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: If you can get it with the Captain chairs spec 775 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: that would be my pick. That looks awesome. They know 776 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: how to make something right the last couple of years 777 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: they've proved that. I would I was thinking about the 778 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: twoson the other day. They should make an end version 779 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 1: of that. I know they've got their Genesis GV seventy Sport, 780 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: which is Magma. Yeah, they kind of took that. Yeah, 781 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: the Magma they took the I thought it was the 782 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: same as their Stinger engine and put that in there. 783 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: But I would have loved to have seen that in 784 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: the two soon. They never did that. In fact, their 785 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: end products have been they've sort of been quiet on that. 786 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 1: I don't know why they sell pretty well to tipc 787 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: But yes, thoughts on the new Palisade looks fantastic. I 788 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,240 Speaker 1: think it's reasonably priced. It's kind of starting to creep 789 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,439 Speaker 1: up there. I think they're starting to know what they've 790 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: really got. Yeah, what do you guys think of new 791 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 1: laws in Victoria for emergency vehicles on the side of 792 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 1: the road. Well, it's been a while since I've lived 793 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: in the Victorious. Yeah, pretty to this. 794 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 3: The laws are not new for emergency vehicles. What they're 795 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 3: new for though, is sort of I guess you could 796 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 3: call them emergency vehicles as well. But stuff like RACV 797 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 3: tow trucks, the city link cars that get about the 798 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 3: place you are now required to slow to forty for 799 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 3: them as well. So in theory, this is a good 800 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 3: idea because you need to slow down around these vehicles 801 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 3: because there is a worker outside next to a freeway potentially, 802 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 3: and they need to go home to their families at 803 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 3: the end of the day. Where it doesn't work, though, 804 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,839 Speaker 3: is when everyone most people don't know it's a rule. 805 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,280 Speaker 3: Every time I see it, I slow down, and pretty 806 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 3: much no one else does, or a handful do. And 807 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 3: finally cotton on where it's an even bigger issue is 808 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 3: where you're on the Hume, where you've got enormous trucks 809 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 3: who cannot stop on a dime. So if people all 810 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,799 Speaker 3: of a sudden remember this rule and jam the brakes on, 811 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 3: you can cause an almighty accident here. So it's one 812 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 3: of those things that needs to be a rule, but 813 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 3: it is a very difficult one because road rules and 814 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 3: driver education in Australia in general is fucked, so no 815 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 3: one knows it's a rule. So all you're going to 816 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 3: get is the police doing is sting one day, finding 817 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 3: all these people pissing people off. I just think that 818 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 3: it really comes back to driver education and people needing 819 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,959 Speaker 3: to get a clue on what to do on the road, 820 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 3: even stuff like I'm just going to very quickly digress 821 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 3: here stuck in traffic on the way into work, and 822 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 3: what I always do is, depending on if I'm in 823 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 3: the adelane and we're crawling, I'll move over so there's 824 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 3: room for motorcycles to get through. Most people don't so 825 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 3: you've got a motorcycle that will have decent sized gaps 826 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 3: for people that move out of the way, and then 827 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,640 Speaker 3: other people are just oblivious to this, and it's like, 828 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 3: why would you not just move a little bit? And 829 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 3: in Europe they all do that. They actually will have 830 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 3: a path, a full path for a vehicle to come 831 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 3: through an emergency services vehicle. Everyone instinctively does it. They 832 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 3: move right out of the way. But we don't do 833 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 3: that here. Again, it just comes down too terrible driver 834 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:33,359 Speaker 3: training and. 835 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: None relirements for it. 836 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, why would you not be spending all 837 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 3: your speed camera revenue on proper drive training for everyone? 838 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean you just can't rely on people's 839 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 1: driving skills. Like I've got a maid of mine who 840 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 1: is a motorbike rider and he is in hospital right 841 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 1: now because he broke his pelvis. He was pulling out 842 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: of work and a fucking car came in and didn't 843 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,359 Speaker 1: indicate and it just took him right out. Like he's 844 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,839 Speaker 1: lucky to be alive. He's in a wheelchair at the moment. Wow. Yeah, 845 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: it's one of those things with motorbike riders. I feel 846 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 1: for them because I don't think a lot of these 847 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 1: accidents are necessarily been caused by them. They've they've really 848 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 1: just got to look out. 849 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 3: For other cars most of the time. They're not like 850 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 3: you get the occasional person riding like an idiot and 851 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 3: coming off, but typically they'll just kill themselves. Yeah, but 852 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 3: people who are just trying to get to work on 853 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,919 Speaker 3: a motorcycle are just constantly battling idiot drivers who don't 854 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 3: know what they're doing. 855 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:30,399 Speaker 1: Unpredictable ones too. Let's move to Gemma in Perth. Hey, 856 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 1: Gemma in Perth. What is your pick for the best 857 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,919 Speaker 1: ev and the most reliable? Oh? What is your pick 858 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: for best and most reliable non EV hot hatch Ah, 859 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to say I'm going to take this one. 860 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 1: I really like the I thirty n Yeah. 861 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 3: I literally was about to say I thirty en because 862 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 3: it's been around for ages, heaps of accessories, people know 863 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,720 Speaker 3: what they're doing. Comes with the track warranty, but Sunday 864 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 3: are generally pretty good with warranty as well. Yeah, if 865 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 3: it's not really if you want something a bit more 866 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 3: up to date, the new Golfer they've just launched. It 867 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 3: is a big step up in price, but it is 868 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 3: a lot of car and comes with some pretty cool 869 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 3: tech and I think is probably the king of the 870 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:15,320 Speaker 3: hot hatches. 871 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 1: Is that the Mark eight point five? 872 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 3: Yes? 873 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I remember when the Mark eight came out, 874 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,959 Speaker 1: I was like, I was really impressed that they had 875 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 1: the I think they had they had like a drift 876 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 1: mode on that. Why have diesels disappeared from the Australian 877 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,359 Speaker 1: passenger car scene? From the Australian passenger car scene? Will 878 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 1: they ever come back? Yeah? 879 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 3: Diesels are an interesting one. There's not as many of 880 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 3: them in passenger cars until you step up to SUVs 881 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 3: and stuff. I think it's a trickle down from Europe. 882 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 3: You've got this situation where in Europe they're less favored 883 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 3: because of the emissions that they have and they don't 884 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 3: solve the problems that they need in terms of hybridization. 885 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 3: That most hybrids are internal combustion petrol instead of diesel. 886 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,279 Speaker 3: So as a result of we just don't see many 887 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 3: of those. You don't see many Chinese market cars with 888 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,359 Speaker 3: diesel engines. They run a lot of petrol cars. So 889 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 3: I think you're just seeing a downscaling of where diesel's 890 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 3: being used. You will well and truly still see diesel 891 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,840 Speaker 3: used in stuff like lan Cruise's Everest Ranger all that 892 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 3: sort of stuff for a little while yet, so it's 893 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 3: not dead just yet. 894 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 1: Last question comes from Gordon. A family car for under 895 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 1: eighty thousand dollars. Here you go, a bit of fun. 896 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: This guy sounds like a pain. He's a pain in 897 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 1: the ass. What about I think we kind of flirted 898 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: with the idea of a Beamer M forty. I ye 899 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:40,719 Speaker 1: used obviously, Yeah. 900 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,919 Speaker 3: M three forty. I think that would be cool. 901 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, or if you still look bad ass, they still 902 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:46,320 Speaker 1: look still. 903 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 3: Very current, if you can get an X three M. 904 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,840 Speaker 1: Forty I yeah, that's what I said. You know, I 905 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 1: thought you meant three series. Oh yeah, yeah, sorry, the 906 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 1: three series or the the X three as well. 907 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 3: I think that they'd be my two picks. Fun sound good, 908 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 3: hopefully within. 909 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 1: Budget watch this space. 910 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 3: Maybe you put a deposit down next time. 911 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be good. 912 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 3: I just bought a oud E T t R s. 913 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,320 Speaker 1: Ah Yeah did jh Yeah? 914 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, run run over it tho because I don't like it. 915 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: Yeah. Actually, I'll tell you what happened to my phone, right, So, 916 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 1: maybe I'll take a photo of this and we'll put 917 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 1: it on the cell shoals but what has happened with 918 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,919 Speaker 1: this phone is it's it's massively crushed up the back. 919 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 1: So I was going for a I was going for 920 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,080 Speaker 1: a bit of a run, believe it or not with 921 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 1: my dog. No not, yes, someone chasing you. I was. 922 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 1: I was running from the rspz A someone else's dog. Yeah, 923 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 1: it's running from that. It's running from dinner. 924 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 3: I have to run very fast. 925 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 1: So no. So basically what was happening is I was 926 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 1: I stopped off. It was it was late at night, 927 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 1: and there was actually funny enough. There was a Beamer 928 00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 1: three series M forty I yep in a Kupra show 929 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: group like what do you call them? Dealer shit? Like, ah, 930 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,799 Speaker 1: that's cool. And it was this really nice blue and 931 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 1: that big pop and blue that they do. And so 932 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 1: I quickly sort of went over across a busy highway 933 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 1: to have a look at it, look at the price 934 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 1: all that. I could have just looked it up on carsoles. Anyway, 935 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm running back over this road and I'm like fuck. 936 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,799 Speaker 1: I had my headphones on and I'm sort of walking 937 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 1: in I could feel my phone had dropped out. I 938 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 1: was listening to the music and stuff, and I'm like, oh, fuck. 939 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 1: I've dropped my phone and I'm looking on the nature 940 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 1: streep and I'm like looking all around. I didn't have 941 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 1: a light. It was pitch black, asked this poor dude. 942 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:39,879 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, can you just light up your phone 943 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 1: so I can look for my phone? And we're both 944 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 1: sort of looking in the nature streep and couldn't find it. 945 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 1: And then I said, would you mind calling it? I'm 946 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 1: really sorry. I can tell it's close because I can 947 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 1: hear the music playing through my headphones. Yeah, yeah, no worries. 948 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: And he calls it and we're looking around. We're like, 949 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 1: what the fuck, and then we look in the middle 950 00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 1: of this highway and it's just flashing in the middle of. 951 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 3: The high and it had been there, doubles. 952 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 1: It had been there for a good five minutes with 953 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 1: cars running all over it. So I mean, like for 954 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 1: like five minutes worth of cars running over I ever. 955 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,920 Speaker 3: Seeing a camera that fucked Like every one of your 956 00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,879 Speaker 3: little camera lenses, yes, and again stupid designed by Apple 957 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 3: because they protrude. But every one of those camera lenses, 958 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,800 Speaker 3: like carved in the whole back is shattered. 959 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 1: Thanks for that. I'm trying to sell this on marketplace. Yeah, no, look, 960 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,919 Speaker 1: I will get it fixed. It's the problem is it's 961 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 1: it's only two hundred bucks to get that thing fixed, 962 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,800 Speaker 1: but it's a forty five minute wait without my phone. 963 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 1: So I'm like, what am I going to do forty 964 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,920 Speaker 1: five minutes when you come to your disk, don't tell 965 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 1: me how to work. Contact at the Drivershow dot com 966 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,719 Speaker 1: dot au if you've got ques, or definitely on Instagram too. 967 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 1: At the Driver Show dot com dot you a podcast 968 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 1: you can find, rate share, subscribe like our content. Our 969 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 1: content is on the instagrams and that'd be great. 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