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Speaker 1: Get a. I'm Lalla Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter,

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Speaker 1: and professional oversharer. This podcast is all about celebrating failure

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Speaker 1: because I believe it's a chance for us to learn,

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Speaker 1: grow and face our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview

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Speaker 1: a different guest about their highs as well as their lows,

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Speaker 1: all in a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail. Hello,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Powder, Hello to the listener. Guess who's

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Speaker 1: on the Potter Rooney.

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Speaker 2: Your current boyfriend, Matt's my current friend.

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Speaker 1: That for everybody. That is a TikTok trend that I

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Speaker 1: tried to do with you when you got back from Australia,

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Speaker 1: and I was I'm one of those people that laughs

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Speaker 1: way too early at the joke, so I can't even

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Speaker 1: land the joke.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't get the punchline out.

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Speaker 1: I can't get the punchlin out ever, So I made

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Speaker 1: a TikTok about Yeah, but there's this TikTok at the

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Speaker 1: moment where girls are going, oh, I'm making dinner with

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Speaker 1: my current boyfriend, and you watch these guys' faces.

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Speaker 2: All drop and it's like their husbands and yeah, oh

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Speaker 2: this is.

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Speaker 1: My current husband and they've got a little kid. It's

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Speaker 1: very funny. Okay, welcome back to the pod. Thank you, Booby,

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Speaker 1: thank you and listener. This is a welcome back episode

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Speaker 1: for the Boss.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: There's also a little reason for this episode specifically.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I was like, oh, I don't need a

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Speaker 2: whole welcome back episode. There's a reason for it. Okay,

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Speaker 2: there's a reason for it.

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Speaker 1: So I want I did this when I got back

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Speaker 1: from Australia because I got back how much before you, like.

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Speaker 2: Five weeks before me? What'd you do?

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Speaker 1: Sorry?

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, cock, go get the bat trying to landed

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Speaker 3: joke that I can't even get get it out?

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Speaker 1: Sorry, okay, Sorry for everyone that has had twenty seconds

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Speaker 1: of laughter for no reason. Okay, So the reason I

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Speaker 2: Say, Lola obviously had something funny to say, we're digress

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Speaker 2: and then and then just laughed at her own joke

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Speaker 1: And I can't. I can't now that I've done.

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Speaker 2: It, and you're holding up a giant red paper post

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Speaker 1: Because I want to do this with you, because it

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Speaker 1: is we're recording this in the middle of the year

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Speaker 1: and at the end of the year. I do that

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Speaker 1: male Robin seven questions then when you take a bit

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Speaker 1: of stock. So I want to take a bit of

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Speaker 1: stock with you halfway through the year. We've you spent

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Speaker 1: two and a half months in Australia.

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Speaker 1: Three months in Australia. I spent a month in Australia

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Speaker 1: been fun. So I think we do a check in

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Speaker 1: on like being back in LA but I also want

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Speaker 1: stock take for the middle of the year. This was

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Speaker 1: all inspired by my friend Schanew or our friend Schanow,

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Speaker 1: Okay, that joke is an even funny boss, because the

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Speaker 1: plans with their mum Yes, oh my god, boss. So

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Speaker 1: write these down at home and ask yourself the same questions.

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Speaker 1: But first I want to do a little welcome back

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Speaker 1: to la How do you feel?

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Speaker 1: Highlight of Australia you can give me three?

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Speaker 2: Very hard to be honest, I think obviously, Byron. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: There was that the highlight?

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Speaker 2: Was one of the highlights of Australia you said three highlights?

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Speaker 2: So that that obviously, really just being with you is

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Speaker 1: And I'm only bringing this up because you bought this

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Speaker 1: a little bit of red wine while I was You

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Speaker 1: showed me. I hope your parents listen to this podcast

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Speaker 1: because you showed me a new addition to your arm.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm going to say something so much ruder than that.

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Speaker 1: No, so boss has got what have you got?

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Speaker 2: I've got a little tattoo on my own and what

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Speaker 2: sort of it's a little.

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Speaker 1: Berry and what's my name?

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Speaker 1: Lola Berry. And so this whole time since he got it,

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Speaker 1: he's like, no, no, it's not, it's not dedicated to you.

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Speaker 1: It's really it's just like what you represent me, which

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Speaker 1: is about facing fear. That's what he said. Legit, guys,

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Speaker 1: that's what he keeps telling me. Last night, three or

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Speaker 1: me dead in the eyes. I got that tattooed for you,

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Speaker 1: Yes, he's not making eye contact with me right now,

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Speaker 1: So just we've got that on recording one more time.

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Speaker 2: If you're ever not my current girlfriend, then it's just

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Speaker 2: the cute little berry on my.

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Speaker 1: Arm that will always remind you of me.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe maybe not, maybe I dislike berries. Well, your

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Speaker 1: Of the I've got mine written down off the trip. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: so I've written one of the highlights. I wrote flying

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Speaker 1: I got gifted all that spell clothing. That was a

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Speaker 1: We've been here like so like in and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: ask you these seven questions. So welcome back to La Woo.

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Speaker 1: We missed you. Okay, but we're six months through the year.

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Speaker 2: Which is weird, weird, and I also feel like it's

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Speaker 1: Know it feels like March to me, don't you feel.

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Speaker 1: last six months, name three highlights? Oh, my lord, not

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Speaker 1: just the trip. The trip can be one. Yeah, me

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Speaker 1: when in la in February. Okay, like just little dates,

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Speaker 1: There's a special beach name there, Whites.

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Speaker 2: No, No, it's Dolphins Beach. We're very close to it.

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Speaker 1: And we saw the sun set there and it was

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Speaker 1: like a rainforest where we stayed. Yeah, no, like it

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Speaker 1: that's Dolphins Beach.

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Speaker 2: That's nice. Filtered water, filtered water.

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Speaker 1: I totally booked that again.

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Speaker 2: I don't have any low lights. That's actually what this

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, we're both well. I definitely even less.

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Speaker 2: I was like once when I was sixteen, once like

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Speaker 1: Do you know you love this? You know? My good

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Speaker 1: friend Tim, Yeah, in Melbourne, we used to both both

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Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh, I'm struggling right now, and I'd

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00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 1: say it to you. I'd be like I'm I'm I

438
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: don't feel or I would feel like in an environment

439
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 1: where I didn't have control of my choices and that

440
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 1: would upset me. But I'm doing a lot of work

441
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 1: with my therapists now around that actually, but that for

442
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 1: me was hard and I did actually and I only

443
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: know this I would have totally forgotten only not because

444
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 1: I've written it down. I binged in Melbourne. Do you

445
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 1: remember that?

446
00:23:58,840 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 2: Not?

447
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: I think I Well, it says binged in Melbourne.

448
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 2: Was I there? Yeah?

449
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would go to the chocolate dile

450
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 1: like Woolies or whatever, or coals and get all those

451
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: keen yeah, but then we get marvelous creation.

452
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a few occasions.

453
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then I would also get treats and it

454
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 1: was just kind of like old behavior from when I

455
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 1: had eating problems. Yeah, so that was definitely a down.

456
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 2: I understand that, like even me staying and I was

457
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 2: with friends on my own and as welcoming and as

458
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 2: incredible and can do whatever you want when you stay

459
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 2: there in their house, it's not your own space, it's

460
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 2: not your own house. So like an element of you

461
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 2: always does feel a little bit not full in control. Yeah,

462
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 2: and totally like with my parents, no, because obviously I

463
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 2: grew up in that house.

464
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, even when I'm back at Dad's as opposed to mums,

465
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,479
Speaker 1: I feel it's easier for me. Obviously. That is like

466
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 1: a chill bean too. You feel all right Dad's place,

467
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 1: don't you, Yes, dads yeah, whereas mum love you mum,

468
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 1: but a little bit more controlling and so we don't

469
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: have as much control over our time, you know, which

470
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: is like to be fair, probably where a bit of

471
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: my control stuff has come from as well. But I

472
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: would say like that the fires were hard for me

473
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: because I worked closer to the specific palisades, Like that

474
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: was a really hard I struggled a bit mentally, I

475
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: would say that week. Yeah, any other low lights probably

476
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 1: for me, just with the acting stuff, like sitting in

477
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: the like obviously you're sitting in a lot of rejection

478
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 1: energy and it's so fine when you know, no, no,

479
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: it's just a numbers game. You're going to get it,

480
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 1: yes eventually. But on some days your brain tricks you

481
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: and doubt will win, and so I think those days

482
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 1: are hard, and I've also found it and there's no

483
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: secret here I talk about on the pod direct I

484
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: find it very hard to balance sometimes working at the

485
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 1: Yolk Studio with like being able to audition and take

486
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 1: a callback and you know, have really good opportunities. You've

487
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: got to be able to kind of like be very

488
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: malleable and fluid with your time when I've got to

489
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 1: set structure and schedule to stick to as well, And

490
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: sometimes I feel like I miss out on opportunities. That's

491
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 1: my phone. I don't know why it's going off so much,

492
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: so that would I would say like that's something that

493
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 1: I'm still working on. But I've made a deal that

494
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm doing therapy every two weeks now because I think

495
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 1: that'll help me build massively clearer boundaries and structure around

496
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: what's important to me.

497
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. I had a bit of self doubt creep in

498
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 2: this past week too, to be honest. Really, Yeah, what

499
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 2: from well, like see the show that I'm working on. Yeah,

500
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 2: there's two other composers on the show. Yeah, and they're

501
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 2: doing different things that I'm doing, So yeah, like doing

502
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 2: I'm doing like the underscore and they're doing someone like

503
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 2: the moral orchestral and other bits. And even I was like,

504
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 2: oh am I good enough? Am I really as good

505
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 2: as they are? And I'm like I because obviously we're

506
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 2: very different. So I very much try to never compare

507
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: myself to other people because I don't do what they

508
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 2: do and they don't do what I do. Yeah, but

509
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 2: then I was like, oh am I actually good enough

510
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 2: to be working with them and doing it?

511
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: Is it because people that write more orchestral music are

512
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: often more classically drained?

513
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are, which I'm not, Which does.

514
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: That sometimes make you feel.

515
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit, But I do just try to

516
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 2: go back to the fact that I'm like, what I

517
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 2: do is very individual to me.

518
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: And I imagine it's extremely intuitive, and so you need

519
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: the doubt to be fucking out the door in order

520
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: to do the best work you need to do, right.

521
00:27:55,359 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So like obviously I played my strengths and

522
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 2: not compare, but I probably did do a bit of

523
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 2: that this week.

524
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: You also, when you're in Australia, did a lot of therapy,

525
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: didn't you?

526
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 2: Yea once a week, did every single week?

527
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 1: How what was like if you could say, like from

528
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: like day one to like I think you've got four

529
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: or five sessions into like that fifth session, like did

530
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: you feel like a sense of clarity or ease or.

531
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 2: Absolutely yeah, because I started feeling like my anxiety returning

532
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 2: in Melbourne, and I realized that a lot of that

533
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: came from Obviously, we haven't lived in Melbourne for I

534
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: don't even know now.

535
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: We've never lived together in Melbourne. Do you know that

536
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: we've lived in talking together? Okay, yeah, but we've never

537
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: we started dating in Melbourn we never lived together.

538
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: But so, but we haven't even lived in Melbourne for

539
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: the better part of five years. So I feel like

540
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 2: some of the old anxiety triggers and memories and things

541
00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 2: came back while I was there. Like, obviously we've being

542
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: back to Melbourne heaps, but I was never never been

543
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 2: long enough to I suppose reflect and yeah, spending a

544
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 2: whole month, I was like, oh, maybe I am Actually

545
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: there was feeling more anxious and there was a few

546
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 2: little spots in my anxiety that I probably hadn't dealt

547
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: with and faced.

548
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: Oh how good is that?

549
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: Though? Yeah? So then like now definitely, like, yeah, next

550
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 2: time we go back, I'm like, I've definitely processed all

551
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: that stuff. How good? Yeah? But yeah, so that's probably

552
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: like the biggest difference.

553
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you.

554
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's like very location based, you know,

555
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: like you can't just run away from your problems, like

556
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 2: your problems follow you. But being here, you're not reminded

557
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: of previous anxiety because you're not in that space. And

558
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 2: when I was back in those spaces, yeah.

559
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: It was like it was really easily reactivated.

560
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. I was like I remember being here like

561
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: as a young adult and having anxiety here anyway, So curl.

562
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: But the cool thing is is, yeah, it works, work

563
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 2: through a lot of cuts.

564
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: Well, my next question is lessons. What lessons would you

565
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: say you've learned in the last six months.

566
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 2: Hmm.

567
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: You go first for me, and this is obviously still

568
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: a biggie, but boundaries. I'm getting better and better at

569
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: and being really comfortable in going either no, thank you

570
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: or I'm going to need some time to think about that,

571
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: which sounds so easy. But when you're in the moment

572
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: and somebody has got another outcome that they want to happen,

573
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: and they need you to say yes, and it's not

574
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: necessarily like them manipulating you or anything, it's just easier

575
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: for them if you say yes in the moment, it's

576
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: really hard to have the clarity to go, oh, no,

577
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: thank you, that doesn't serve me. Oh, thank you so much.

578
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to need to think about that.

579
00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: Though.

580
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: It's like saying it on a pod like this is

581
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: one thing, but like being under the pressure of like

582
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: being a bit tired, being in a different environment, someone

583
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: being like, it's going to really help me if you

584
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: do this thing. Yeah, Like it's so hard to have

585
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: the courage to do that in real person. So I

586
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: feel like in real time, I feel like my boundaries

587
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: has been like a huge thing that I've been working

588
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: on in the last six months, and I think that's

589
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: something I'm going to work on more and more. Like

590
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: my mum is amazing but wanted me to go to

591
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: New York with her, and we just crunched the numbers

592
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: and I was like, I can't do New York and

593
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: Memphis and Nashville and Joshua Tree, like we need to

594
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: make some calls as to what we do together. And

595
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: you know, her initial response was, oh, but you promised,

596
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: do you remember that?

597
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, which you didn't.

598
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: No, no, but and old me would have been, oh, fuck, okay,

599
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: I'll just find a way to make it happen. Whereas

600
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: like we actually sat in the discomfort and had a

601
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: converse and then we're like, no, let's do like Memphis.

602
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: I've never been. Let's do an elvistrip. Mum's mad Elvis fad.

603
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: And I think for me, the boundary thing has been

604
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: a big one. And I don't know if you remember,

605
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: but a lot of friends wanted to catch up with us,

606
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: and I said no, quite a lot, just because I

607
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: was like, there is no time for that. And I

608
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: think that like the older we get, like we're both

609
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: thirty nine, and the more you realize that time is

610
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: really our only currency and you've got to be careful

611
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: about like how you spend it and where you spend it,

612
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: and like I know, for me, one of the highlights

613
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: of Australia was going to an MCG match with Dad.

614
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: But that meant saying no to a couple of mates. Yeah,

615
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: that's right, and that meant I was less available to

616
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: other people as a result. But like Dad's dad and

617
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: I email once a week. We're pimpals. And because he

618
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: just doesn't like FaceTime and WhatsApp and all those things.

619
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: And the first thing he wrote to me when I

620
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: got to LA was I loved going to the MCG.

621
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 2: With you, Like it was really importantly shared his passion.

622
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: He loves that ye allbit a terrible match and they

623
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: were thrash and like it's the only time you'll ever

624
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: see my dad curse. But yeah, I think I think

625
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: also like knowing, like knowing that I was feeling a

626
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: little bit out of control like food and our space wise,

627
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: and then pulling that trigger at the end of the

628
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: trip to like have that Airbnb and Byron and make

629
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: our own meals. Yeah, I know that that had a

630
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: huge impact on my mental health. And so I think

631
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: like staying in charge of my own time is really

632
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: really and investing in ourselves. Like we are seeing Mum

633
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,239
Speaker 1: and Joshua Tree in a few weeks. You and I

634
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: just pulled a trigger and to do a night extra

635
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: in Palm Springs, just you and me at a wellness

636
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: retreat resort like those kind of things. Then I've booked

637
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: myself some a of eighting massage.

638
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: You've got to have those, even if it's just like

639
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 2: one extra night, Like you've got to have that.

640
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: Which is a beautiful boundary piece in a way.

641
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: But also for couples and people like you don't even

642
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: have to go and spend money, no, you know, you

643
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 2: can find something just to take you out of your

644
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 2: normal routine and space and do it, and I think

645
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 2: that's important.

646
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: I agree.

647
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 2: I definitely think like my boundaries have gotten even gotten

648
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 2: that's bad English. My boundaries have gotten stronger, and I

649
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: always had fantastic I think that even now, I'm just

650
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 2: very comfortable and like no, thank you.

651
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're better. I'm like, he's so you are

652
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: so confident though, whereas like, as someone that has had

653
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: an indish or I think confidence is my first thing

654
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: to sway.

655
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 2: I think though that I think about it as and

656
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 2: as someone that's had extremely bad anxiety, extreme like you've

657
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: seen me have the worst anxiety. I refuse to ever

658
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: put myself in a position that would make me like

659
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: feel like that or triggered or whatever it is. So

660
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: if if there is something that I'm like that is

661
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: absolutely not for me, I'm like no, And like you know,

662
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: even if Pepe's like, oh, come on, let's do this,

663
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, yeah, you're really good. And to be honest,

664
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: if they feel very funny, what does that mean? It

665
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: means I don't like it, antonia. If they feel uncomfortable

666
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 2: by you saying no, that's their fucking shit. Yeah, like

667
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: you're good friends would never make you feel like shit,

668
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 2: or your family or whatever for you saying no.

669
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: No, there's a really good thing going around as well

670
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: about like your good friends celebrate you wins. You're not

671
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: your friends like get a bit jealous of you wins. Yeah,

672
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: and I think like late thirties you figure that shit

673
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: out real quick.

674
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but as well, like even yeah, I mean all

675
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 2: my friends have never been like pressure friends. But if

676
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 2: anyone's been like, oh, hey, I'm not drinking tonight, or

677
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: and it's like no one cares, you know, there's no like, oh,

678
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 2: come on, just do this, it's like, which, no one

679
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: fucking cares. Do whatever you want, live your own life.

680
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway, you're very supportive of that with me too,

681
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 1: by the way. You teach me that even we've got

682
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: a gig tomorrow night and I couldn't go unless I

683
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: got in a bit of trouble at what, like it

684
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: would have been hard for me to get the time

685
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: off work, And you're like, okay, well then let's sort

686
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: it out so that there's someone else exactly.

687
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 2: That's fine. Yeah, I'm not bothered.

688
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: No, you are amazing like that. Okay, So the next question.

689
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: So the first question is highlight, second question low lights,

690
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 1: third question of lessons, which we've just talked about. Fourth question,

691
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: What am I going to stop doing for the second

692
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: half of the year that you've done the first half

693
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: of the year you don't want to? You know what

694
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: I mean? What are you going to stop doing?

695
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: Oh? I stop doing. I'm going to stop feeling like

696
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 2: I need to wait for things to come to me

697
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 2: and go after more Ooh nice, Yeah, create more, create

698
00:36:58,239 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: more opportunity.

699
00:36:59,200 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

700
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: Nice, Because I realized that I've always anything that has

701
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 2: been successful or you know, beneficial financially career. It's like

702
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 2: an opportunity that I've created in a certain way.

703
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. I wrote What am I going

704
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: to stop doing? Shit I don't want to do?

705
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 2: Yeah? I love that.

706
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: And I've said I'm going to stop saying yes when

707
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: I really want to say no, and I'm going to

708
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: start investing in myself and my own space.

709
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 2: Yep. Maybe adding the overthinking.

710
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm an overthinker. I'm a realer. It's actually been

711
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: really interesting booking stuff with mum because Mum's also an overthinker,

712
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: and I had to stop her the other day. We'll

713
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: planning our Graceland tour, which I've organized for a birthday,

714
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: and she was like, what should we do? Go what time?

715
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: And like she was like we should we go at

716
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: ten or should we go at eleven? I don't know, girl,

717
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: what do you think? And I go, hey, you do

718
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: this thing that I I do. I'm like, you go

719
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: back and forth on an idea about fifteen times too many.

720
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: I do the exact same thing and I'm telling you

721
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: now stop. And it was so nice because it wasn't

722
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: me like being bossy boots with her. It was me

723
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: being like, I do the same thing. I get it,

724
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: I get it. Let's just lock something in.

725
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 2: And how much time is lost on indecision? It has

726
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 2: to And it's like, what's the fucking difference ten or eleven?

727
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 2: Like in the grand scheme life, you could have done

728
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 2: both and it's not going to affect you in the future.

729
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 2: So it's like, why spend all that fucking time worrying

730
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: about like such a small fucking detail. And that's what

731
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 2: I say to you as well. I'm like I do

732
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: it all the time, and I'm like, who cares?

733
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: But I also thought, like even we were booking Palm Springs,

734
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: before and I'm booking that aubatic massage and I was like,

735
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: I did to book it for two or three? And

736
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 1: then in my brain I play out, oh, no, we're

737
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: going to get there at two. Oh we're gonna want

738
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: a little sauna in a little all hang together, and

739
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: you're like yeah, great, yeah great, Whereas I'm like, or

740
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: do I want to have this message first? I play

741
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: it all out in my head.

742
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 2: And realistically, what's the fucking difference?

743
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter.

744
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 2: You're gonna get there, you're gonna have a great massage,

745
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: you're gonna be in the room. We're gonna have a

746
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 2: great fucking time. I thought you're gonna say something a

747
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 2: bit ruder, We're gonna fuck So people do that, boss,

748
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 2: that's how babies made.

749
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: You could say like make sweet love, make whoopee, not

750
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: not woopy.

751
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 2: I think I think that the decision paralysis that people have,

752
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 2: and I think that I used to have it too,

753
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 2: to be honest, Like I remember trying to organize things.

754
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay this or that, or I still get

755
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 2: a lot of what time should I fly? To be honest,

756
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 2: I had a lot of decision paralysis flying from Byron

757
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: to Melbourne.

758
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: And and Melbourne to La and I was like, please

759
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: book it on this day and You're like, but there's

760
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: less chance beginning upgrade because it looks like this less

761
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you're going to get the upgrade exactly nothing, right.

762
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 2: But we had one call about it, right.

763
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 1: You were absolute yeah, because I was starting to feel

764
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: anxious about it.

765
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: You like that out on you. Of course that's your

766
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 2: job though, But the decision was made within the hour

767
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 2: right of being presented with the three options. Yeah, we

768
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: just in that discomfort. Yeah, but at the end of

769
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 2: the day, the decision was made. The best suit the

770
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 2: time that you can pick me up. So yeah, that's

771
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: how the decision was made. And make you a little

772
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 2: poster rooney. So but the thing is like, although I

773
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 2: was indecisive about Friday, Saturday or Sunday, once I incorporated

774
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 2: you into that decision making, you were like, well this

775
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,479
Speaker 2: bests me. And I was like, okay, there's the best

776
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 2: chance for an upgrade on this day, but there's still

777
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: a chance on this day, but that suits you better.

778
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: So I was like, that's the day that we do it.

779
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 2: And did you get the upgrade? Yes? I did on

780
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 2: my points huh. On my points, my points, I'll my points.

781
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 2: We'll see anyway. So yeah, but yeah I had it

782
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: as well going from Byron to Melbourne because I couldn't

783
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 2: like it was really you get a crazy delay. Yeah

784
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 2: they don't have a big delay, but anyway, it doesn't matter.

785
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, I get it anyway, keep the next question because.

786
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: Question five, okay, question five, what are you going to

787
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: start doing?

788
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 2: Hmm?

789
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: Drop me to kick it off, because I think gives

790
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: you juices and I've obviously filled this out and taken

791
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: the time prioritize happiness and freedom, movement, health goals like

792
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: you united did it, waits at the gym and then

793
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: the other thing since obviously, as you know, I have

794
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: a massive crash on Marcus Mumford. Yeah you know, yeah,

795
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: because when I watch my mumfd and son's tiktoks at night,

796
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: You're like, are you watching your boyfriend?

797
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

798
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: Absolutely, But this has learnt from him. When he wrote

799
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: an album, he said, I'm going to set myself the

800
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: task to write as honestly as I can and to

801
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: essentially just be relentlessly honest, and that is something I

802
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: want to live from that space, to be relentlessly honest.

803
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: I think you and I live that way.

804
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we do.

805
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: But to really like sit in that outside of just

806
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: you and I is something I want to.

807
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 2: Aspire to love that. Yeah, what's the question again, what

808
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 2: are you going to start doing? Ah? I think that

809
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 2: I still need to continue to believe in myself more.

810
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: Well, the next question is what are you going to

811
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: continue to do? Well?

812
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, continue to believe myself more. What am

813
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 2: I going to start to do? I don't know. That's

814
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 2: a hard one. I feel like I feel like I'm

815
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 2: in a good flow of taking care of myself. Yeah, yeah,

816
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: maybe do you know what?

817
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: Oh?

818
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: No, more, I think I probably need to get back

819
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: to gym a little bit more.

820
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: That's what you're going to continue to do? I would say?

821
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: I would say jim yoga movement.

822
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: Because I was doing all that in Australia and then

823
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 2: this last week I've done.

824
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 1: Nothing besides warehouse. We've been house sitting as well.

825
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what I'm going to start to do.

826
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 2: I'm going to leave that question because there's nothing that's

827
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 2: really jumping out.

828
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: And then continue to do is the movement stuff?

829
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 2: Yeah? Like therapy, Yeah, therapy, the movement stuff and like

830
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: believe in myself more.

831
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 1: Do you want to know it was on my list

832
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 1: to contribute it? You're going to laugh, Be in nature,

833
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: continue being in acting school, continue therapy, make time to

834
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: hang with dad. Laser that's anti aging, skin laser, podcasting,

835
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 1: botox that's also anti aging. See sunrises and sunsets. And

836
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: one thing I really want to continue doing whenever we

837
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: travel to Australia is starting to end in Myron Bay.

838
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 2: Which we are next trip. Yeah, well we're starting ding.

839
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 2: We haven't decided to.

840
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: So the final question of this is what can you

841
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: start today to start making the changes you want to change.

842
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,720
Speaker 1: So we've done one of them. We've done weight training

843
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: today at the gym. We've gone out for an air

844
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:37,720
Speaker 1: one Healthy Eats.

845
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 2: Talk about the smooth that you had Cowboy Colostrum.

846
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we're members so we get a free smoothie

847
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: once a month. It's so good. And this was like

848
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: a cold brew coffee with colostrum maple syrup. It was

849
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: like assalted maple. What do you say? It tasted like

850
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: tear me, Sue, It tastes like can you I've also

851
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: been going down the tiktop rabbit hole of Dove Cameron

852
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: her Italian boyfriend Dominico. What's his name?

853
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: I don't know. I've seen the videos.

854
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: Can you teach? So there's a few things where he teaches,

855
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: like a couple of cool Australia Italian sayings. Did you

856
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: know about the sleepiness one when your body feels like

857
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: it's overcome sleeper or something?

858
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 2: Non?

859
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: Do you know the saying that people yell out of

860
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: Italian football? Yeah?

861
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 2: That's that's like it's pretty insulting you say in Italian. No,

862
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 2: I don't remember what it is in Italian, but it's

863
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 2: basically like f you and your dead relative. Yeah, it's

864
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 2: like pretty insulting what Eddie says, don't mess with Italians?

865
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I guess like, do you have anything like

866
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: like you just taught us Nemi piacci.

867
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: That just means I don't like it?

868
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: How do you say it.

869
00:45:58,840 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 2: Nice?

870
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: Can you teach us just like tim more littlies?

871
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 2: Please?

872
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, you don't like?

873
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like you should have prepared me for

874
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:06,959
Speaker 2: this because like.

875
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: What about isn't there like the one beautiful this beautiful life?

876
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's like pretty common.

877
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: What's what's like like like there's gonna be like a

878
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 1: nice saying like I love you very much, your beautiful thing.

879
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's rolling his eyes come on.

880
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 2: Like Italians like, I don't know. They say a lot

881
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 2: of things like like even the guy, and then in

882
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 2: the interviews like you know, Stigazzi like, which means like the.

883
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: Dicks, but it also means it doesn't matter.

884
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and it's it's like a lot of

885
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 2: things like that. You know, but people say, like, you know,

886
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 2: in English, you say, oh my god, it's like Madonna. Yeah,

887
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 2: you know, so they have they have those kind of

888
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 2: being home, did you speak a little bit more Italian? Yeah,

889
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 2: a little bit, not heaps.

890
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: So your parents are fluent, Yeah, you know.

891
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: No, it's not as fluent anymore, that's for sure.

892
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep telling we better take me to Italy

893
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: one day.

894
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 2: Yes, we'll go to Italy one day.

895
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: So the stuff that you're going to start doing today

896
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: is movement, keeping up with a therapy, working on yourself.

897
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 1: Is anything you want to achieve in the next six months, Yes,

898
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: that you're comfortable sharing here.

899
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 2: No, I really want to get off the ground. Yeah,

900
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: some extra stuff in America and creative projects that you

901
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: and I are working on. And just I know that, like,

902
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 2: this is not your style, but my style is like,

903
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 2: let's create a lot and then see what works.

904
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: Of Yeah, whereas I'll hyper focus on that.

905
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you hyper focus on one thing, where I'm like,

906
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: let's just make fifty things and if let's hope that

907
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 2: one of them like pops off.

908
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: But I think that what works with that is like

909
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 1: he'll then send me his fifty ideas and then I'll

910
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: really like.

911
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 2: I realized that I'm very macro and you're very micro.

912
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: Is that what it is?

913
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm very like big picture overall goal.

914
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: So you're more of a director's brain. I'm more of

915
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: a producer's brain. Remember on the podcast and a way we're

916
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: talking about their differences being one was more like actor director, yeah,

917
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: and the other one was more producer writer.

918
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's kind of like say, say, if we're writing something, yeah,

919
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 2: I'll like come up with a big idea. I'll like

920
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 2: have like the big idea or the big idea of

921
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 2: a character. Yeah, and then you break down every single

922
00:48:54,480 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: little character development trait, fucking what colors their fun toenails,

923
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: you know, where I couldn't give a shit about that,

924
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 2: but you develop something from an overall picture, like, so

925
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 2: I probably do outline and then you color it in

926
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 2: with complexity.

927
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: I would agree with that it's dricking. That's because of

928
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: writing books, and so I've had to do have the

929
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 1: ideas because I used to pitch many ideas to publishers

930
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: and they'd be like, go away and do that one,

931
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: and then I just deep dive and essentially like get

932
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: really specific.

933
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I love doing the overall thing and then

934
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 2: handing it to you to do the bits and bobbos.

935
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: So your goals for the next six months is to

936
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: get a few things off the ground start building a

937
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,720
Speaker 1: career in America, correct, real. I love that so nice.

938
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: I feel like you're in a really good place for

939
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 1: that to happen, like as in, like all the stuff

940
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: that we've just talked about that's happened in the last

941
00:49:55,520 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 1: six months to set you up perfectly and you I'd

942
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 1: love to book another acting gig, a good or something

943
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 1: really solid. Probably, I think commercial is just a matter

944
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: of time because commercial, basically you're not necessarily booked on

945
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: your ability. You're more booked on the way you look

946
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: or sound, So commercial I'm not concerned about. That's one

947
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: hundred percent of money. A numbers game money too, but

948
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: a numbers game where is getting booked something like on

949
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 1: a TV show or a sitcom or any of that.

950
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: That's much more chemistry testing how you're showing up in

951
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: an audition, how you do with the callback. So I'd

952
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: love to book something really, really meaty, and also like

953
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: I want to focus on my next goal now for

954
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: the next month, or you'll be getting a theatric I've

955
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: got a great theatrical rep in Australia now, but I

956
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: want to get that in America because I think the

957
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: issue I've got right now is I'm not getting into

958
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: the rooms. I'm getting into the commercial rooms. I mean

959
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: into the voiceover rooms no props, and need to be

960
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: getting into those, like be able to be doing auditions

961
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,439
Speaker 1: for TV shows that are casting right now, because one

962
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: thing that I've learned, until you've got the reps, no

963
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: one knows you even exist. Yeah, exactly, And so that

964
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: is like the next big phase for me is like

965
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: American theatrical. But like I just got an email right

966
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: before we went on this saying that my voiceover real

967
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: had been submitted for a big ad campaign in Australia.

968
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 1: Great you know what I mean. So that's what comes

969
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: from having good reps. So I think for me it's

970
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: reps and then booking the next acting gig and just

971
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: being super ready for that. But I'm also really excited

972
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: boss for this pod, Like this pod turns six in August,

973
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: Like I think this pod has got legs to grow

974
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: in America and you know, go to this next phase

975
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: we're doing. Like as my beautiful pod manager classes, she's like,

976
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 1: you're doing everything right, everything's lined up and completely ready

977
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: to go. So I think it's just like for me,

978
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: pod acting reps, what do you reckon? Do that sound good?

979
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 2: Perfect?

980
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 1: And of course love and well thank you for answering

981
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 1: those questions. It was like I'm not the mood for this, No,

982
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: I was in the mood. I was like what, like

983
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 1: he didn't you didn't give me like heads up, heads up?

984
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: Really what's going on? And I was like, what's what's

985
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: my story's going to be? Like it's not that interesting.

986
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: It was a format to today, yeah, but thought it

987
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: was like you're going to be like, oh, tell us

988
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: about the contilate and tell us about which you can't

989
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: really talk about really about general sense, but it's just

990
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 1: just know the overall thing is a big process that

991
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: takes time and it's tedious and paperwork and money. And yeah,

992
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: someone said to me the other day, LA is a

993
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: great place to be for the privileged if you've got

994
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,240
Speaker 1: an idea and your privilege. And I was like, even

995
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: the visas to get here coross a bomb, Like they like,

996
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: we could have put that towards a second property. Yeah,

997
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: well we a car, a beautiful car.

998
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 2: Well we could have bought a fucking.

999
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple probably if you put our two visas together.

1000
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,760
Speaker 2: No, probably like one, but yeah, oh.

1001
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: Really either way. My point is is, like it is

1002
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: an investment in and even to like have the money

1003
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,959
Speaker 1: to have the VA, like the stuff.

1004
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah it is. It's an investment into yourself. If

1005
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 2: this is a place you want to be for work

1006
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 2: and life and career and all that kind of stuff,

1007
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 2: then it does take an investment. So you do have

1008
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:23,760
Speaker 2: to bet on yourself.

1009
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, what a good ending. Bet on yourself. Yeah,

1010
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: love you, boot, I'll bet on you any day the week.

1011
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 2: Bet on you, boss, love you, love you. Bub bah.

1012
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 2: Wait that's a.

1013
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: Wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always, Thank

1014
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 1: you to our guests and let's continue the conversation on Instagram.

1015
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: I'm at Yamo Lollaberry This potty my work for podcast

1016
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: is available on all streaming platforms. I'd love it if

1017
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:00,720
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1018
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:01,080
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