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Speaker 2: I'm Georgie Tanner and I'm Abbe Jelmy And can you
Speaker 2: believe George, We're back.
Speaker 1: We're back, We're back. Oh, I am so excited to
Speaker 1: kick off season three of Two Good Sports. And Jelmy,
Speaker 1: what have you been doing? Because we have had a
Speaker 1: little bit of an off season. We've been stretching.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's been a pretty quiet off season for
Speaker 2: me what I did at change jobs, had a child.
Speaker 2: But other than that, you know, not much actually really genuinely,
Speaker 2: not much else has been happening.
Speaker 1: No, we dance card full though, I think with the
Speaker 1: new job and the new child, so I think.
Speaker 2: Welcome little Ollie into the world. So Oliver Herb, Oliver
Speaker 2: Herb he is I've been doing that parent thing where
Speaker 2: I've been like, yeah, he's twelve weeks. I've been saying
Speaker 2: that for apparently twelve weeks. Because he's sixteen weeks now,
Speaker 2: he's not which parents talking weeks he's four months let's
Speaker 2: just break that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think louis your eldest. I think he's
Speaker 1: six months old. So it's mental now.
Speaker 2: So we've survived two under two and probably more relevant
Speaker 2: to this podcast, Let's be honest. Joined ABC as offside
Speaker 2: as host is just I mean, it's basically an extrapolation
Speaker 2: of this podcast. Getting to talk about the big issues
Speaker 2: in sport with an expert panel. It's a dream, dream gig.
Speaker 2: And when you're following the likes of of course you're
Speaker 2: Jared Witley, You're Kelly Underwood, Mary Cassidy, I know, way
Speaker 2: at the start like icons of Australian media, a litt
Speaker 2: alone Australian sports media. So it was a big old
Speaker 2: chair to film. I mean was about two weeks postpardon
Speaker 2: when I interviewed for it. Sure, sure, but that's just
Speaker 2: how this world works.
Speaker 1: How fun to be an icon because now you're one.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think you inherently when you're in the seat,
Speaker 2: you just don't get.
Speaker 1: To pretty sure, that's how it works.
Speaker 2: I think Kelly's now in OAM.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, so when I got letter from the King telling
Speaker 2: me that there's an honorary maybe I'll get to lean in,
Speaker 2: but no, very humbled and loving it so far.
Speaker 1: It's very, very fun. You've packed a lot in. What
Speaker 1: have I done in the off season? I did move house? Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: so that was my Everest? And did she make it
Speaker 1: all the way down again? I don't know. We're still
Speaker 1: we're still unpacking unpacking. Honestly, it's got to the stage
Speaker 1: where I'm like, ah, those boxes. Turns out we have
Speaker 1: an attic where I've managed to stuff them. I've never
Speaker 1: had an attic before, and I'm like, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: unpack that. I'm just gonna put them up there.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's great. It's great. I mean, it's not
Speaker 2: great to have a mental one because that show that
Speaker 2: breaks down, but it is good depth some one where
Speaker 2: you can shove things that sounds like you're moving up
Speaker 2: in life, but drop some names. Who you like. I mean,
Speaker 2: very recently Billie Eilish, Yeah, who else chattered to?
Speaker 1: Billy was the biggest one. Probably recently tried to ice
Speaker 1: Cube as well. Who else have I been chatting to?
Speaker 2: Billy said you smell nice, which you can't smell people
Speaker 2: through podcasts. Georgie is one of those people that has
Speaker 2: fragrance of wardrobe.
Speaker 1: That's right, I do. I do love a fragrance and
Speaker 1: did I specifically choose fragrance because I thought, you know,
Speaker 1: he would like this, Billy, and she bloody well did
Speaker 1: and I nailed it. So it was at the end
Speaker 1: of the interview and we're getting our little photo. Now
Speaker 1: this is not just I mean, yes, she did love me, sorry,
Speaker 1: she did love me, but everyone got a photo.
Speaker 2: Billy didn't request it.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah so me. No, other people may
Speaker 1: have got photos with her too. But anyway, during my
Speaker 1: photo with Billy, she was just like, you smell amazing.
Speaker 1: What is that?
Speaker 2: And I was like, what was it?
Speaker 1: Pheromones? It was just me Actually, no, no, no, it's
Speaker 1: d S and Durga. I don't know what. Now that
Speaker 1: is the fragrance. Every time I tell people I don't
Speaker 1: know what, they're like, Okay, what gatekeeping bloody fragrance.
Speaker 2: That's a wild I don't know, I don't know what.
Speaker 1: But that is Billy Eilish's favorite scent. And she was
Speaker 1: just divine, just divine, you know what.
Speaker 2: She's good sport We should probably give some sporty chat.
Speaker 2: We both went to the tennis.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, we did we talked to ash Party.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, we did talk to eld.
Speaker 1: We Oh yeah that business.
Speaker 2: Yes, women in sport, we did enjoy that. Thank you, Emirates.
Speaker 2: But what was your take on the OS Open?
Speaker 1: I mean, once again, incredible event, incredible event in light
Speaker 1: of events that have happened after that. Fascinating. Isn't it
Speaker 1: a fascinating time, especially in the men's game.
Speaker 2: I found the men's finals so uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: I mean, I not I mean, I don't want to
Speaker 1: just absolutely criticize the entire competition. I found the final
Speaker 1: of the men's game boring. I found the women's finals
Speaker 1: so entertaining. It was amazing, And quite often we would
Speaker 1: have the opposite discussion, so we'd be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: the women's game was it was okay, the final it
Speaker 1: was alright, it was all right, but there's usually a
Speaker 1: clear winner.
Speaker 2: This one exceptional Madison keys that she had And yeah, excenta.
Speaker 2: Of course we are going to we're getting into deep
Speaker 2: dive territory.
Speaker 1: We might on that down the track becoming up.
Speaker 2: It is going to be one of the big inns
Speaker 2: I think of twenty twenty five discussing doping in sport.
Speaker 2: But what that leads us to what is going to
Speaker 2: be the outshat today. We're going ins and outs for
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, hi brow, low brown, everything in between
Speaker 2: that's coming up next.
Speaker 1: Jellm me something that is just inescapable. Every single time
Speaker 1: and New Year kicks off? Are these ins and outs lists?
Speaker 1: And while I've not loved them from other outlets, oh,
Speaker 1: you best believe I was excited to hear ours.
Speaker 2: I was just about to say, when you're like, let's
Speaker 2: do our ins and outslets, I was like, gott, I
Speaker 2: hate those, Yeah, sure, sure, because I just feel like
Speaker 2: it's so self serving to be like I am the
Speaker 2: deciding body of what is in, what is out? But
Speaker 2: for us funny and the other point I would like
Speaker 2: to hear yours. So I sport as a whole, but
Speaker 2: obviously more leaning into the codes that we enjoy.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, definitely and always there's going to be some curveballs.
Speaker 1: There's going to be a few curveballs popping up in mind.
Speaker 2: We don't know each other's we've done individual ones. Will
Speaker 2: there be overlap more than likely, But Georgie, it's a
Speaker 2: fresh year, it's a fresh season twenty twenty five. It's
Speaker 2: going to be bigger than better. Do we say that
Speaker 2: every year? Sure? But I believe it. So hit me,
Speaker 2: what are your inns for twenty twenty five?
Speaker 1: My number one in Nathan Cleary?
Speaker 2: Oh god, I know, not something different.
Speaker 1: Something different. No, look, I just from what I saw
Speaker 1: over in Vegas the NRL's opening round confirmed he's going
Speaker 1: to be an absolute superstar once again. Was there that
Speaker 1: much doubt that it would happen again? I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: you can live in hope, you can live in hope
Speaker 1: that he might just have a slightly average, a slightly
Speaker 1: average game. Doesn't seem like it's going to be happening
Speaker 1: this year. So Nathan Cleary, the Penrith Panthers superstar who
Speaker 1: broke my heart in the Grand File against the Prisin
Speaker 1: Broncos a couple of years ago, I mean, I'm over it.
Speaker 1: I'm over it. I never bring it up. Unfortunately, I
Speaker 1: think he is I mean, unfortunately for Penrith Pans, but
Speaker 1: unfortunately for myself as the Queens and found a Broncos fan.
Speaker 1: I think he is very much in. He's not going anywhere.
Speaker 2: Penrith's still in because they've had some big off seasons
Speaker 2: changes they are.
Speaker 1: Oh I was hoping that they weren't going to be
Speaker 1: To be honest, I was like, come on, share it round,
Speaker 1: share the skill around, share the passion round, share the
Speaker 1: form around. They'll be there. They'll be a top four side.
Speaker 2: No god, okay, next Oscar Pistre oh yeah, massive in
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, yeah yeah, but I've never been more in.
Speaker 1: Yes, he is in the best car heading into the
Speaker 1: Australian Grand Prix, and I think that we are going
Speaker 1: to see him on podium after podium after podium this season.
Speaker 1: What this is a two pronged dare I say a
Speaker 1: compound in? So we have Oscar Piastre is going to
Speaker 1: be in and therefore by default stay with me. Lando
Speaker 1: Norris's villain arc, so his teammate at McLaren. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: not Lando, Lando the villain arc. Has it gone anywhere? No,
Speaker 1: but the green Goblin of our dreams. He is going
Speaker 1: to be back and he is going to be featuring
Speaker 1: as the side eye man.
Speaker 2: If the was an animal, he'd be a squirrel. But
Speaker 2: you can't hate him, you know you can't.
Speaker 1: You love it. I love the pettiness. I love the
Speaker 1: pettiness that just drips from every pore of him and
Speaker 1: he seems to just be like, hmm, okay, just waiting
Speaker 1: in the wings. I just love it and I cannot
Speaker 1: wait for the time when McLaren says Lando let oscar pass.
Speaker 2: In saying that you and I are going to an
Speaker 2: event with Lando next week, which you won't be going petty.
Speaker 2: You'll be like, Hi, can I have a photo? I
Speaker 2: smell nice?
Speaker 1: I smell nice. I smell nice. I'll lean in. I'll
Speaker 1: lean in with the fragrance just wafted out.
Speaker 2: That's just what context Georgie did. Try to get a
Speaker 2: chat with Lando, and no one has ever given a
Speaker 2: don't argue more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was channeling Dustin Martin to be honest.
Speaker 2: Just did a right walk by. Okay, what's next?
Speaker 1: Okay next. I think this is a very important one.
Speaker 1: I think you and I are both aligned here. Critical
Speaker 1: analysis of women's thought bang. Yes, so a lot of
Speaker 1: times I think women's but now we are demanding that
Speaker 1: it be taken seriously and therefore what comes with that
Speaker 1: is proper analysis of where.
Speaker 2: It's at, and that can be critical and it's allowed
Speaker 2: to be critical. And we saw that during the women's ashes,
Speaker 2: where the English side got absolutely served in the media
Speaker 2: here and abroad, essentially saying you cannot rock up to
Speaker 2: international competition and be this underpath. There are questions about
Speaker 2: their fitness. If you don't perform, you get criticized in
Speaker 2: the same way the email peers do. And we love that, Yes,
Speaker 2: we love that.
Speaker 1: So therefore, for me, I am looking to see a
Speaker 1: lot more analysis of women's sport, just because as women's
Speaker 1: sport becomes more and more prominent and lots more people
Speaker 1: go to the games and go to these events and
Speaker 1: support by actually being there bums on seats, that is
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is in as well. But with that
Speaker 1: obviously comes the constructive let's call it constructive criticism too.
Speaker 2: This is a.
Speaker 1: Controversial one for me, but I like it. The sinbin
Speaker 1: for the AFL, bring it in, Bring it in. I
Speaker 1: know it's not in, but I'm saying I wanted him.
Speaker 1: I want them to be a sinbin for the AFL.
Speaker 1: I would love that.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 1: What do you think I haven't even heard.
Speaker 2: I've been listening to a lot of talk back radio
Speaker 2: here in Melbourne. I haven't heard anyone else say bring
Speaker 2: the sinbin in. So it is a new concept that
Speaker 2: I haven't considered. But I mean particularly when we're thinking
Speaker 2: about cte yes and trying to put players off that
Speaker 2: sort of head high contact. If it's clearly deliberate, if
Speaker 2: it's alla Reese Walsh in Origin, Yeah, well, yeah, you've
Speaker 2: got to. I don't mind it.
Speaker 1: I don't see and I'm not saying maybe not ten minutes,
Speaker 1: but five minutes. Let's just open up the discussion. I'd
Speaker 1: love there to be a talking point about the sinbin
Speaker 1: for the AFL. I think ten minutes in AFL slightly
Speaker 1: to too much punishment. It's too harsh of a punishment
Speaker 1: for a team. But five minutes, if you, you know,
Speaker 1: no good onto the side into the naughty corner. I
Speaker 1: can see it. I can see it.
Speaker 2: I've been parenting too long because all I can think
Speaker 2: of is like, how long should you send the kitchen
Speaker 2: the room for the sinbin? Yeah, five minutes. I think
Speaker 2: they've lent the lesson. You can come back out apologize.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you're done. It's so app that you
Speaker 1: mentioned Reese Welsh the love of my life.
Speaker 2: Maybe because.
Speaker 1: One of my inns nail polished on footy players. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I've put Hello Reese with a love heart emoji.
Speaker 2: Also, Harry Garsard.
Speaker 1: Yes, Harry Garside, I'm into it, into it. I just
Speaker 1: love it when you are going to see personality which
Speaker 1: brings me to another in personalities, I want more nick
Speaker 1: curios style vibes from the athletes. Okay, let's be interesting.
Speaker 2: Well I'm going to cross that one off my list.
Speaker 1: You had it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I said, coaches and athletes showing personality five exclamations.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got brackets. Please, for the love of God.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're getting there. I think we're getting
Speaker 2: We're going to have less one week at a time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, do you think so?
Speaker 2: I think so, Young Hawks, I've got my personality endorsements.
Speaker 2: You've got to you've got to show different bizazz to
Speaker 2: get brands on board.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Howcball may come up in one of my other
Speaker 1: lists today. Also in soccer US Young Soccer Use and
Speaker 1: I've got a little explainer here for our listeners that
Speaker 1: they are the male Matilda's, just in case you don't
Speaker 1: know who the soccer Us are. That's the male Matilda's.
Speaker 1: Are you womenplaining, I'm women's plaining. I am women explaining.
Speaker 1: And I think that twenty twenty five where you're going
Speaker 1: to see a rise, and this is fresh off the
Speaker 1: back of the Young Soccer Roose winning. I think it
Speaker 1: was the Asian Cup.
Speaker 2: They did so well it was yea, I was about
Speaker 2: to say it was our first Age division win in Asia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, incredible. Out of nowhere.
Speaker 2: The Green shoots all look good. They just need to
Speaker 2: keep growing.
Speaker 1: And I think that we're going to see some positive
Speaker 1: results for the soccer US as they are chasing that
Speaker 1: direct qualification to the World Cup. So I think that
Speaker 1: they are going to be back in our headlines. I've
Speaker 1: only got a couple more in my inns. Inns, good merch.
Speaker 1: For the love of God, please give us good merch.
Speaker 1: I'm sick of the ugly prince. I'm sick of the
Speaker 1: clashing like patterns and all of this, Like, can we
Speaker 1: just buy a nice looking bucket hat?
Speaker 2: Please? So many that correlate to keep going.
Speaker 1: Female owners of sporting teams. Yes, yes, So we've got
Speaker 1: Natalie Portman, Serena Williams, Williams most recently the WNBA team
Speaker 1: in Canada. So I am so excited that that seems
Speaker 1: to be a trend that is happening. That is a
Speaker 1: very big inn for me. That is my list here
Speaker 1: we go, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2: I just love that you finish on your note. Mine
Speaker 2: might be a little bit more low brown because my
Speaker 2: inn is pink girns. Do you know what that is,
Speaker 2: biable merchant, because the Sons have recently done their away
Speaker 2: kit in the pink, and I remember watching the Panthers
Speaker 2: in their pink and going, well, that's clever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, I think Panthers jersey I am for which
Speaker 1: is almost one of my favorite jerseys.
Speaker 2: So I just you know again, I promise it does
Speaker 2: get a little bit more. But also as a follow
Speaker 2: on anyone but Penrith, my inn for five is anyone
Speaker 2: but Penrith, because as a journalist it's really hard without
Speaker 2: bringing out your hand to count back to back to
Speaker 2: back to back.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is to back. Yeah, we can't have five.
Speaker 1: We can't have a five. We can't have a five.
Speaker 2: Pete, it's greedy, not great for the game.
Speaker 1: No, it isn't another in Bruce, oh, Bruce.
Speaker 2: And commentary choice Okay, because for the first time in
Speaker 2: the AFL, we're going to have both Fox and seven
Speaker 2: providing commentary, so it's not just going to be your
Speaker 2: Fox team doing the intro to the game and then
Speaker 2: you get your seven callers. Essentially it is head to
Speaker 2: head and they are throwing everything in the kitchen. See
Speaker 2: hence Bruce mcaveney coming out of retirement like a phoenix
Speaker 2: from the ashes. For the love of God, have him
Speaker 2: do the brown low.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, he's the only way, to be honest, I
Speaker 1: think that in that I respect to everyone who is
Speaker 1: in part of those commentary teams. You need a Bruce
Speaker 1: to be able to compete with Fox and all of
Speaker 1: the games that they are just broadcasting this year.
Speaker 2: So this is an out that needed to be included
Speaker 2: in my inn to follow up that conversation in that
Speaker 2: free to air AFL on Saturdays is out.
Speaker 1: It's out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think that it's been lost in the
Speaker 2: wash of this four point five billion dollar deal that
Speaker 2: people are going to sit down to watch their AFL
Speaker 2: that they know is on a Saturday afternoon and unless
Speaker 2: you are one of the people that has KO or
Speaker 2: Foxtel or Fox Sport, you're not going to be able
Speaker 2: to watch footy. And that's the first time that our
Speaker 2: great game has been behind a paywall on what is
Speaker 2: such an appointment day. And understandably Fox have gone Saturday
Speaker 2: Saturday with you know, Brownie and Rewolt having a sing
Speaker 2: on a piano because they're like, we have every game.
Speaker 2: So if you want to not have three soil lates
Speaker 2: a week to justify the price that you're going to
Speaker 2: be paying to watch footy, well part of.
Speaker 1: That should we say inns? Then for the pubs in
Speaker 1: the hospitality industry, because they are going to be overflowing
Speaker 1: from people who don't necessarily but Cozy.
Speaker 2: Lives, Oh yeah, can we afford to be going out
Speaker 2: every Saturday? And my concern is understandably seven is going
Speaker 2: to argue for the bigger clubs, yes, to not be hidden,
Speaker 2: so the smaller clubs that are already battling to keep
Speaker 2: engaging members are going to be behind a paywall. So
Speaker 2: fans go, oh well I can't even see him play, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: so the smaller get smaller. I can't hide Collingwood in
Speaker 2: that slot.
Speaker 1: It's one of those things though that you won't realize
Speaker 1: the true impact of that until it's happening. So good
Speaker 1: one from you.
Speaker 2: Well, we also know opening round has been washed out,
Speaker 2: so I think round one people will realize what's actually
Speaker 2: happened because I don't think the outrage has met what
Speaker 2: it will actually be because people just don't realize how
Speaker 2: much their viewing habits are actually going to change. Yes,
Speaker 2: agreed in bombers in the eight oh men's bombers because
Speaker 2: we know that our women's side have won a final,
Speaker 2: so that stuff. But I reckon the bombers, mate, the eight.
Speaker 1: You can't lie to bomb.
Speaker 2: I'm just going to keep coming on the Wallabies. Oh,
Speaker 2: the Wallabies is set in a massive in because we
Speaker 2: have the British and Irish line tour, but also your
Speaker 2: mate Joseph Kuso sulii have I had to learn how
Speaker 2: to pronounce that quickly. Yes, I have the cross Coade Hopper,
Speaker 2: the highest pay the player in union. Has just been
Speaker 2: an absolute master stroke.
Speaker 1: And it was even doubt, never in doubt that he
Speaker 1: was going to do well, Oh, never in doubt. It
Speaker 1: was like when Israelph Laut, whatever you think about him,
Speaker 1: it was like when he was brought over to rugby
Speaker 1: union and everyone's like, oh, I mean, it's such a
Speaker 1: different game. Will he even be good? Just like the
Speaker 1: single handedly like best rugby union player you've ever seen.
Speaker 2: Well, he's also playing positions that he hasn't played since
Speaker 2: high school. True, that's how much of a freak this
Speaker 2: kid is. I mean, we've already seen what he did
Speaker 2: for the Wallaby's making his debut, if you don't mind
Speaker 2: in the Code for the Wallabies in front of eighty
Speaker 2: thousand hostile fans, in twigger them and being Player of
Speaker 2: the Test. It was just ridiculous. So I think get
Speaker 2: your Wallabies gurnsy out you all had as a kid,
Speaker 2: blow the dust off it and get excited. And also
Speaker 2: we have Bash Shrugby enough on this podcast that we
Speaker 2: feel the need to say something generally positive about the Code,
Speaker 2: putting family first in that well. And this is obviously
Speaker 2: off the back of a list that I wrote this morning,
Speaker 2: Lucky Neil coming out and saying, well, if the AFL
Speaker 2: wanted to move the opening round game to Melbourne, I
Speaker 2: wouldn't be going because I've got two young kids at
Speaker 2: home and there's a cyclone about to hit my house.
Speaker 2: I think that this idea that players just have to
Speaker 2: do what is best for the Code as opposed to
Speaker 2: what's best for their family. And again I sort of
Speaker 2: extrapolate this wider to the Luka Doncic's trade and the
Speaker 2: fact that he just got traded had no idea and
Speaker 2: within forty eight hours it needs to move to La.
Speaker 2: My brain goes to does he have like kids and
Speaker 2: a wife that might have her own life, and like,
Speaker 2: are these players just chess pieces? And we've seen in
Speaker 2: the NRL. The NRL have said, well, the Dolphins are
Speaker 2: going to play the bunnies and just get on the.
Speaker 1: Plane, and there has been backlash for that, Like I've
Speaker 1: called it disgusting because you're going to be left at
Speaker 1: home pregnant with two young kids.
Speaker 2: There's a natural disaster hitting and you're taking you're taking
Speaker 2: the linesman like the big unit that's gonna help me
Speaker 2: sandbag this shit? Absolutely not. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Do you think that that is going to hold
Speaker 1: for the whole twenty twenty five?
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I really enjoyed that Locke Neil,
Speaker 2: who's a two time Brownlow medalist, coming out and saying
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be going and I went, you know what,
Speaker 2: in I'm about it.
Speaker 1: Okay, I like it. I like it.
Speaker 2: I think the Rus go back to back in the AFLW. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think they didn't drop a game. I think it's
Speaker 2: a very very pretty in from me behind the scenes documentaries.
Speaker 1: Okay, Wow.
Speaker 2: We okay, I'm just buddy, because is that you're out there.
Speaker 1: Is an out for me that might be correlating to this.
Speaker 1: You go with your one.
Speaker 2: Oh cool cool spoil last my old keep pushing on
Speaker 2: athletes and coaches showing personality. We've already touched on that.
Speaker 2: Annabelle Sutherland being the new Elise Perry.
Speaker 1: Ah, I like that. That's a big inn. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think I just think she's a star. We love
Speaker 2: Elise cte discussion and prevention. Did it go anywhere it
Speaker 2: needs to go somewhere?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, because I think we're going to see a decline
Speaker 2: in youth participation in some of these contact sports unless
Speaker 2: we do something about it. And particularly I look at
Speaker 2: the AFL. We're introducing more clubs, but we need more
Speaker 2: talent coming through. And hypothetically, as a parent of two
Speaker 2: young boys who might want to play contact sport, knowing
Speaker 2: what we know, it's really difficult to think of your
Speaker 2: kid getting tackled in their head, hitting the ground and you,
Speaker 2: as a responsible parent, making that choice for them to participate,
Speaker 2: unless you can see that changes are being made. Because
Speaker 2: this is very very real.
Speaker 1: You know what could help with that? Sin Bins in
Speaker 1: the AFL now, just bringing it back, just bringing it back,
Speaker 1: just bringing it back. It's a great idea.
Speaker 2: Last, but not least Kyrie in Greening, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: do it now? Do it now? Have him walk out
Speaker 2: in La on his broken ACL which apparently he did overnight.
Speaker 2: I was like, well that's stuff, smilist. But Kyrie Irving
Speaker 2: playing for the Boomers if you're a yeah, I understand
Speaker 2: why you're against it, because, let's be honest, not a
Speaker 2: molecule of that man identifies as Australian. He left here
Speaker 2: when he was two, his dad was Australian. Sure, he's
Speaker 2: played for the USA in.
Speaker 1: One gold, but arguably he's the most Australian of us
Speaker 1: all because we claim him. You're born here, half bought,
Speaker 1: like the most Russell Crowe, Salah Neil far Lap, like
Speaker 1: he's ours, he is our. So I like it.
Speaker 2: I like that he wants to join the Boomers out
Speaker 2: of spite, which makes me think because he's like team
Speaker 2: USO over look me, look at me now, and do
Speaker 2: you know who plays well? Athletes that are jaded and
Speaker 2: don't be wrong. I know that we've got amazing Josh Green,
Speaker 2: Josh Giddy. We've also got the great Barrier thief in
Speaker 2: Dyson Daniels. Tell me there's a better nickname in world sport.
Speaker 2: You can't. We've got these young players coming through that
Speaker 2: I think is so strong. But imagine they get to
Speaker 2: learn from Akyrie because he could potentially dare I say it,
Speaker 2: Patty Mills, who knows if he's going to make it
Speaker 2: to LA. We've got these aging players and.
Speaker 1: Kyrie aging as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's Kyrie. He's like Oprah. He just needs
Speaker 2: one name, Kyrie. Anyway, as you can't tell, I'm for it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but anyway, I'm with it.
Speaker 1: I agree. I'll have you. I'll have that.
Speaker 2: Have you got docos out?
Speaker 1: Okay? So yeah, do we begin the outs?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: We begin the outs. Here we go.
Speaker 2: We might find out the list.
Speaker 1: This could be our first fight. Yep. Okay, here we are.
Speaker 1: So I've put and I've written it with you in
Speaker 1: mind sporting docos asterisk. Not every team on Earth deserves
Speaker 1: the last dance drive to survive treatment. They don't. They
Speaker 1: just don't. You are taking away the magic of that concept.
Speaker 1: If every single under fifteen fourteen can have someone with
Speaker 1: a GoPro like no, no, no, no, no, we need
Speaker 1: to keep it special. The asterisk is a Germy asterisk
Speaker 1: because it says sprint is obviously it's fitted. Noah Lyles
Speaker 1: is always in my other outs.
Speaker 2: I really value being considered. Thank you out.
Speaker 1: This is gonna sound weird with where how I began
Speaker 1: my in's list. Nathan Cleary out, get out, Get out
Speaker 1: with your form, get out with your talent, get out
Speaker 1: with just winning absolutely everything. Okay, I've had enough. I've
Speaker 1: had it absolute enough. All right, while you're gonna be
Speaker 1: the greatest player again in the league this year, just don't, maybe,
Speaker 1: just don't.
Speaker 2: Will he be an a mortal?
Speaker 1: Yes, he's on his ways one hundred percent on his way,
Speaker 1: which is a wild call for me because to say
Speaker 1: this early on in his career, he's still likes four
Speaker 1: years of age.
Speaker 2: Like it is not like AFL Hall of Fame. This
Speaker 2: is like immortals. Is a whole difference.
Speaker 1: He's he's on his way. He is that good, he
Speaker 1: is that good. His conversions from the sideline in Vegas,
Speaker 1: I was like, get out, get it, like he just
Speaker 1: every aspect of his game is amazing. It's annoying. Yeah, out,
Speaker 1: y'are out, bubb You can't have it all. Now, I
Speaker 1: think you're gonna like this one very important out from me.
Speaker 1: Stay with me here, Yannick Sinner in baseball caps, Let
Speaker 1: the red locks fly? Why are you hiding your gorgeous hair?
Speaker 2: Obviously this apide from drug testing, George, he's a heart
Speaker 2: feat away from shaving it.
Speaker 1: Are you kidding Ben Cousin style? Obviously this is post ban.
Speaker 1: He can come back get But how your mentoring baseball
Speaker 1: caps off him?
Speaker 2: How's he meant to look Gucci preppy without a cap?
Speaker 1: You know? How he looks even more Gucci preppy with
Speaker 1: that hair, with that hair and that beautiful bone structure. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's that's my that's my take.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: We might get into the cynodoping in tennis that could happen,
Speaker 1: ha ha, but we should also talk about the baseball caps. Now. Wow,
Speaker 1: I've actually written this in a stream of consciousness that
Speaker 1: flows quite nicely if I do so so myself. My
Speaker 1: next out mullets.
Speaker 2: Yeah gone, and that weird ear shaving.
Speaker 1: I've said they're done, surely, Sure, they're done.
Speaker 2: No, but you know when it's like their hair is
Speaker 2: scared of their and I have given just like a
Speaker 2: good inch. Yeah, clearance I do. It's like the relaxed
Speaker 2: Dustin Martins.
Speaker 1: It can go, it can go, it can go. Like
Speaker 1: and when I say that, you know, when someone's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: what have you been doing, it's like, oh, I finished Netflix,
Speaker 1: We've finished mullets, Like there cannot be anymore. There cannot
Speaker 1: be any more iterations. You're out. In twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: archaic misogynistic analysis of women's sport. Yeah, that's gone. That's gone.
Speaker 1: We've had enough of it. We want critical analysis, serious
Speaker 1: critical analysis. Keep all of your other things, extraneous comments
Speaker 1: to yourself on from that. The phrase women's sport out, Yes,
Speaker 1: it's always out you and I've said that on this
Speaker 1: podcast before. We loathe it. It can be women in sport,
Speaker 1: women's sport. It's just sport, sick of it, sick of it.
Speaker 1: So that's out hockball.
Speaker 2: Or we can give you men's sport if you want.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can talk about men's sport one hundred percent hockball.
Speaker 1: The phrase I've said out because the phrase means nothing,
Speaker 1: not the style of play, like the style of play
Speaker 1: for the whole great hockball, disgusting, get out. I don't
Speaker 1: want it. I don't want the name. It has merch
Speaker 1: with it on it. I was like, you are wearing
Speaker 1: that in public with me?
Speaker 2: Get out?
Speaker 1: Get out? I don't like it.
Speaker 2: Robert, who's filthy? He's not the number one ticket holder.
Speaker 2: Look sorry, but it's one of those ones that no
Speaker 2: one publicly will confirm what hockball means. Yes, and I
Speaker 2: just think it's unnecessary.
Speaker 1: It's so unnecessary. It's so unecessary. If you're getting flagged
Speaker 1: for writing hackball on Instagram caption and it says no,
Speaker 1: some of this might be offensive that may have happened
Speaker 1: to Robert before purely using that word. I think we
Speaker 1: don't need it, and we don't need it on merch.
Speaker 1: Let's just circle back to good merch that's in not
Speaker 1: this one toxic fan behavior out out a league. Hello,
Speaker 1: but more so more so, I think this parasocial dynamic
Speaker 1: that fans have now with athletes, athletes are the new celebrities.
Speaker 1: We saw it most recently with Emma Radikhanu who was
Speaker 1: playing a match. Yes, and there was a stalker in
Speaker 1: the crowd.
Speaker 2: Which can you imagine how terrifying it is knowing that
Speaker 2: someone wants to find you and they can look up
Speaker 2: a schedule to find exactly where you.
Speaker 1: Are, exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: I'm just terrifying.
Speaker 1: It's terrible. You can support your players, you can love
Speaker 1: your favorite players, but you have to have some sense
Speaker 1: of reality that they're not your friend. And also, except
Speaker 1: for everyone who I love, they're my best friend.
Speaker 2: If you gamble and lose because of that player out
Speaker 2: is sliding into their DMS abusing them. Yes, like you sad,
Speaker 2: sad human beings, and you're seeing more often players to
Speaker 2: sharing it now. Yeah, yeah, Dan Christian recently just shared
Speaker 2: some of the hate that he was getting. It's crazy
Speaker 2: in cricket and every The guy then replied being like,
Speaker 2: you can't share this, and it's like, well, you can't
Speaker 2: come into my direct messages saying that you're going to
Speaker 2: hurt my family because I may have had a bad game,
Speaker 2: Like what is what are you?
Speaker 1: What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Adult behavior?
Speaker 1: Last couple from me out the NRL bunker and in brackets,
Speaker 1: I've called it useless. Why do you get everything wrong?
Speaker 1: It's inexplicable. You have so many cameras. I can watch
Speaker 1: and see what's going on from my loungry.
Speaker 2: The NL final last year wasn't going.
Speaker 1: Nerl bunker out, and then I finished off with the
Speaker 1: very serious one heels They're out for all time, goodbye,
Speaker 1: just in a life, just heels, just heels. I just
Speaker 1: want to make that stand. Is the hill that I'm
Speaker 1: going to die on? No, he'lls not.
Speaker 2: The heel You're going to die on the hill, the
Speaker 2: hill you're gonna die on? All right? My out's tall
Speaker 2: poppy syndrome. Oh, if we're going to allow people to
Speaker 2: have personality, we can't cut them down.
Speaker 1: Love that.
Speaker 2: We can't say that we want this American style. Let
Speaker 2: us in, show us who you are and then go,
Speaker 2: but don't show us that much who you are. So
Speaker 2: you're Sam constious, Let him be Sam constious. Yep, okay,
Speaker 2: because we need to have people that we can talk about.
Speaker 2: And initially I'll be the first to say, I'm a
Speaker 2: bit of a funny duddy with this stuff. So funny duddy. Wow.
Speaker 2: Our old one person said wow, okay. But when he
Speaker 2: wore sneakers to meet the PM, yes, my initial response
Speaker 2: is to go, mate, like put on and some shoes
Speaker 2: the way that everyone else does. And then I just went,
Speaker 2: you know what, it's giving me something to talk about,
Speaker 2: and I feel like I know you better to know
Speaker 2: that you wear green stampers. That's okay, that's okay, it's okay. Also,
Speaker 2: this is the Alona mar of it all right?
Speaker 1: Yes, she was asked about, you know, getting imposter syndrome,
Speaker 1: and she was just like, I don't have that.
Speaker 2: Who is she? What's that? I don't sensational?
Speaker 1: Yeah? How do you overcome imposter syndrome?
Speaker 3: I don't have that?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 1: No, I don't know what that it's you don't feel
Speaker 1: like you deserve it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I don't think I have it?
Speaker 1: Okay, how is that possible? I feel like imposter syndrome
Speaker 1: ruins my life Sometimes I feel like I deserve what
Speaker 1: I've gotten. Incredible, incredible from HER's in.
Speaker 2: We both did, but she's an in. Oh this is
Speaker 2: my number one bug bear in sport. Oh wow, significant wow.
Speaker 2: Overuse of the term star. If I have to look
Speaker 2: up the phonetics, I'll give you a hot tip. They're
Speaker 2: not a star, Oh my gosh. And is it clear
Speaker 2: that I'm no longer working at commercial television. You cannot
Speaker 2: tease to every break saying a star midfielder is out
Speaker 2: for one of our main teams and then have it
Speaker 2: be someone who's never played the game. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: yah yah yeah drop unless unless they've made all Australian.
Speaker 2: In my head, the star is loose.
Speaker 1: It's like the term using the term hero.
Speaker 2: It's lazy. You're like, it's a lazy this one. Okay,
Speaker 2: I've got this is a bit more high problem, convenient morality.
Speaker 1: Oh, explain it to me.
Speaker 2: Live golf. Oh yeah, Australia playing Afghanistan in ICC events
Speaker 2: but refusing to do bilateral competitions.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Players that get four thousand chances that are still having
Speaker 2: discussions with VFL clubs when their behavior towards women is despicable, despicable,
Speaker 2: and they've been given a million. Of course, I don't
Speaker 2: even want to mention his name, but there are certain
Speaker 2: players that shouldn't get another chance of the AFL period
Speaker 2: because whether you like it or not, these people go
Speaker 2: on to be idols. As soon as you wear a guernsey,
Speaker 2: you are looked up to by young children, and some
Speaker 2: people don't get another chance at that when they have
Speaker 2: threatened and abused women, particularly for a long period of time.
Speaker 2: That is a hill that I will die on. But
Speaker 2: I just think you cannot have a violence against women
Speaker 2: awareness round. Oh yes, and then say, oh, we can't
Speaker 2: close the door on this guy. You can and you
Speaker 2: absolutely need to.
Speaker 1: I'm intrigued to see if not even just the AFL,
Speaker 1: but if all codes could adhere to that this year.
Speaker 1: That's interesting.
Speaker 2: But live Golf's another one. Right, there was all this
Speaker 2: and then it's because it's just become part of the normality.
Speaker 2: Now everyone's like, oh, lives fun. I'm like, remember how
Speaker 2: problematic this was because of the people that we're taking
Speaker 2: money from. But they have DJs, so it seems fun. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And don't get me wrong, it does seem fun. But
Speaker 2: I just think that there has to be if you're
Speaker 2: going to make a stance against something, you can't eventually
Speaker 2: go all right, okay, we'll give it another shot.
Speaker 1: There's a butt. It's like yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah out.
Speaker 2: Cyclonic weather ruining the first round of honestly opening round.
Speaker 1: Scipline Alfred did you know apparently was meant to be
Speaker 1: called cyclone Anthony but Albania that we can't do that?
Speaker 2: Is that fat?
Speaker 1: I think that's true. I think that's true.
Speaker 2: I think that's true.
Speaker 1: Well, I've heard it. I've heard it at the water
Speaker 1: cooler and also said.
Speaker 2: Because then I believe that.
Speaker 1: I mean, well I think it was said by Samuel Thornton,
Speaker 1: so we also because I was like, that is that
Speaker 1: is an actual storyline from one of my favorite shows
Speaker 1: of all time, Veep, when president is Julia Louis Dreyfors
Speaker 1: and she's the vice president and she was there being
Speaker 1: the president as there was a hurricane Selena was coming
Speaker 1: and that's her name, and she was just like in
Speaker 1: a cupboard with her advisor being like, you gotta.
Speaker 2: Kill it, get rid of it. Was it actually meant
Speaker 2: to be Anthony?
Speaker 1: That is we've got producing team, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine Albo?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So just you know what's not good?
Speaker 2: Speaking of Albow, do you know there was an article
Speaker 2: in The Australian where we bookended him what do you mean?
Speaker 2: As in they had a certain now out of a
Speaker 2: job shock jocks speaking poorly about the Matilda's. They had
Speaker 2: a quote from Georgie Tunney, a quote from the PM
Speaker 2: and then a quote from me and I just feel like,
Speaker 2: no matter which way you cut that one of us,
Speaker 2: you saved the PM. I really enjoyed that. I was like,
Speaker 2: you're in a two good sports sandwich Anthony you cyclone you,
Speaker 2: I didn't know that that's hilarious and that checks out.
Speaker 2: But I do think it's the most get rid of
Speaker 2: opening round Round zero.
Speaker 1: I can't it's the worst in the AFL.
Speaker 2: I demand the right to watch my team play. I
Speaker 2: know it's traditional, but I want to sit down and
Speaker 2: watch Carlton and Tigers, no matter how lopsided that contest
Speaker 2: or affair.
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, okay, gotcha, I do. I'm with you. I'm
Speaker 1: with you out Sadly, I think if a BYuT default,
Speaker 1: they're an in but out with psychlonic conditions games.
Speaker 2: I've just got booing with eight o's. I just don't
Speaker 2: think we need to boom.
Speaker 1: Okay, you can.
Speaker 2: Don't have to cheer for people, but you don't have
Speaker 2: to boot.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: People are in the workplace, they're having a crack call
Speaker 2: me woke, whatever performative round dedications. I think everyone knows
Speaker 2: how we feel about the domestic. Like I just think,
Speaker 2: unless it's really going to stand for something and there's
Speaker 2: education behind it, you know, just don't do it. Ridiculous
Speaker 2: bands for doping are out, so as much as we
Speaker 2: can all question what's happening with the ANIX sinner. I
Speaker 2: think the ban actually befits the crime at this point,
Speaker 2: so as much as everyone might go, that's ridiculous, Usually
Speaker 2: it gets slapped with two years. Well maybe we've just
Speaker 2: been a shift in the tide where we're going to
Speaker 2: see more reasonable bands for sports people.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay for it.
Speaker 2: It was a performance enhancing shoeies see never.
Speaker 1: Out, see out, never never in again.
Speaker 2: They were fading in twenty twenty four. Now I reserve
Speaker 2: the right that if you drink from a shoot, to
Speaker 2: call you a Darrow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh no, because I can see it. Like imagine
Speaker 1: if Oscopiastri does win, you know he's going to do
Speaker 1: a shoey.
Speaker 2: No, it's not, it's not. It's Danny's leave it to Danny.
Speaker 2: Danny can do anything, you know what.
Speaker 1: I love Daniel Ricardo and he gave a lot of
Speaker 1: joy to a lot of people, but he also should
Speaker 1: be arrested and put.
Speaker 2: To the shoey. The shoey especially, I can't driving for
Speaker 2: that long. Can you imagine how filthy it's so hot
Speaker 2: in there, the sweat I feel like anyway, if you
Speaker 2: can't tell, I really feel strongly about this. A billion
Speaker 2: chances after despicable behavior. He's out, he's out. Yes, what
Speaker 2: what were your headlines there? That's that's both of ours.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: Well, I think we've solved well sport is what I've Yeah,
Speaker 1: just printed print it. We will actually, I think we
Speaker 1: will put these lists up on our Instagram page. Yeahs
Speaker 1: already follow us?
Speaker 2: How much you love mine? More than Georgia Excu.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, heels. I think I'll have an
Speaker 1: army behind me with those on the end.
Speaker 2: You can't have Nathan Cleary in both.
Speaker 1: If it makes sense, I can, and I've done it.
Speaker 1: I think you'll find I have done it. So yes,
Speaker 1: let us know what are your ins and outs? We
Speaker 1: would love to know your ins and outs for twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five when it comes to sport, when it comes
Speaker 1: to your life as well, just let us know. As always,
Speaker 1: you can follow us on at too Good Sports.
Speaker 2: I've got a fun fact, yes, and he was one
Speaker 2: of my inns. You'd be surprised that no track and
Speaker 2: field featured in my inns wells because I was saving
Speaker 2: it for the fun fact. Because we have a prodigy.
Speaker 2: His name is Gout. Gout He's only seventeen years young.
Speaker 2: We have Noah Larles talking about him, You say Bolt
Speaker 2: talking about him. And the reason why is he's broken
Speaker 2: the two hundred meter record in Australia with a blistering
Speaker 2: pace of twenty point zero four seconds. So that records
Speaker 2: too for fifty six joys. But I fun fact.
Speaker 1: That's a good fun fact.
Speaker 2: His name's not calcult, what is it? It's what what
Speaker 2: the pronunciation we've been and this is his dad explaining why.
Speaker 1: Okay, I want to be g u.
Speaker 3: Ot some when I see people called God God, I'm
Speaker 3: not really happy for it. When we come from Sudan,
Speaker 3: I know how to expect what but the man when
Speaker 3: he did the dark Man, he makes the letters. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but sometime I was unhurried. So nothing I can do.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: The Australian people, they want to make it short name.
Speaker 3: That's why they call God God. But it's not her
Speaker 3: for bread name because I know God God is a
Speaker 3: disease name. But I don't want myself to be called
Speaker 3: the ze name. His name is God. He's got to be.
Speaker 2: G u Ot.
Speaker 3: I call God God. I'm not really happy for it.
Speaker 2: Good good what what? So phonetics is g w O T.
Speaker 1: You're welcome, listeners, because this man is going to win
Speaker 1: Olympic golds in the future, so let us just stamp out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the poor guy's like gout, oh Google, gout. No,
Speaker 2: that's not what I called my son. Let me just
Speaker 2: can we change that back?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: Go?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: What? What? So love this, listeners, Yes, you can be the enlightened.
Speaker 2: His name is not coutcout, as you will hear across networks,
Speaker 2: because once things are out in the ethos, it's.
Speaker 1: Very hard to bring them, hard to take him back.
Speaker 2: But given he's seventeen, I don't want him to have
Speaker 2: to live with it and his poor dad being like,
Speaker 2: have you ever gone through customs? Probably not, it's busy.
Speaker 2: They're mixing up the form. So we just wanted to
Speaker 2: move country. Let it beat.
Speaker 1: Quat quat love it. That's it in Stone we know
Speaker 1: from now on, and so whenever anyone comes at us,
Speaker 1: because we know you will, we love you listeners, but
Speaker 1: you always come through the back guys, and it's goutcout.
Speaker 1: Would I cut up?
Speaker 2: No, it's not, it's really not.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm glad that we've solved that, and we've solved
Speaker 1: everything that's happening in sport in twenty twenty five. It's
Speaker 1: good to be back. We've come in hot, We've come
Speaker 1: in real hot, real hot as usual. Thank you so much,
Speaker 1: Gelmy thank you to our producers. Too Good Sports is
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