1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Jum mission with Jonesy and Amanda. 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 2: By now you've seen that shocking footage no doubt of 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: Canberra NRL player Curtis Scott being tasered as he was 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 2: sleeping off a big Australia day under a fig tree, 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: with then a stone's throw of NRL HQ. The judge 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: has thrown the case out, saying that it was excessive 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: police force. The police argued, how you're supposed to move 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 2: on a guy that's asleep under a fig tree. I'd 9 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 2: say in the old days they would have just left 10 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: him there, but I guess these days if he wakes 11 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: up and wanders in front of the monorail or something 12 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 2: like that, or a tram, the cops will be responsible 13 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: for him. 14 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: And how has the NRL responded in light of the 15 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: no fault standdown rule. 16 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 3: Well. 17 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: Reading Paul Crawley's column in The Telegraph today, he said 18 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 2: this highlights exactly why the NRL Integrity Unit needs to 19 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: stay out of all police matters involving players who have 20 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 2: pleaded not guilty so have the right to a presumption 21 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: of innocence without being subjected to the court of public opinion. 22 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: Through the no fault standown policy, He also goes on 23 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: to say that the public opinion people say, oh, well, 24 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: let's just another football and you know, let's move on. 25 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: It's another football player disgracing himself, and fair enough, there's 26 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: been a lot of them. But I feel in the 27 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: case of Curtis Scott, he was heart done by it 28 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 2: by the police and you watch that video. 29 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: Sure, but that's a separate issue to the no fault policy. 30 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: Where does the NRL has a policy that whether you 31 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: are guilty or innocent, until your case is heard, you 32 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: are stood down. If the criminal offense carries a maximum 33 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: GIL sentence of eleven years or more. If it's under 34 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 1: eleven years, then the NRL I think decides. But many 35 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: players have been caught up in this no fault policy, 36 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: haven't they? 37 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So we've seen the likes of Jack de 38 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: Bell and Tyrone May and Manassei Funnu. They all had 39 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: the same thing. Well, what do you think it's like 40 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: the French you're guilty before presumed innocent. 41 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: I mean this is we have our courts that decide 42 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: and here we have the NRL making an opinion about 43 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: this stuff too, yep, And you have no say until 44 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: the court's decision. Comes down, you're punished no matter what. 45 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I look at the incident of Curtis Scott 46 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,839 Speaker 2: in particular, he was you know, he copped a lot 47 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: for that, and you know everyone sort of believed the 48 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: police over him. But then you see the body cam 49 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: footage and Curtis although he got himself into a situation 50 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: which he shouldn't have, he shouldn't have dumped that much. 51 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 2: But having said that, he didn't deserve to be tasered 52 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 2: twice and handcuffed like he was and then put through 53 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: what he's been put through. 54 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: So what's the NRL story with him, because isn't that 55 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: what we're discussing. It's not what the police have done, 56 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: which is a different issue we're discussing. 57 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:37,839 Speaker 2: Here stood him down? 58 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: Have they until we get until he's. 59 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: Yes, it's the faults stand down rule, So he's had 60 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 2: to go through all that heartache for ages. 61 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: Well, the tribal JOm today the no faults stand down rule, What. 62 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 2: Do you think does it pass the pub test? 63 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: Well, you've got guys like Josh who gets done for 64 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 3: forearms offences doesn't get stood down, and you've got other 65 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 3: goldnesses and there's now proven to be innocent to getting hammered. 66 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 3: Not fair, not fair at all, within no fault, no, no, 67 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 3: I don't believe in it. Today's day an age seems 68 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 3: to put a lot of onus onto NRL players and 69 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 3: they're for some reason made out to be heroes and 70 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 3: all the rest of us. And if our youth of 71 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 3: today is looking up to them, damn straight passes the 72 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 3: pub test. If they're in trouble with the law, then 73 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: how can they be a role model for the youth 74 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 3: of today. So yeah, if you're in trouble with the law, 75 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 3: whether you're innocent or guilty, get out, get out. 76 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 2: Thank you for all your calls with Joins and Amanda