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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda's.

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Speaker 2: Well our next guest, Australian rock legend and co founding

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Speaker 2: member of In Excess, four decades on from the birth

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Speaker 2: of that band. This man has become the first member

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Speaker 2: to release a solo album and we're thrilled to hear

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Speaker 2: it and to have him here with us. Andrew Faris Hi, Hi, how.

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Speaker 1: Are you very well?

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Speaker 3: Good to see you again.

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Speaker 1: Thank you?

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Speaker 2: So this you're the first one to release a solo album.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how that happened. I seem to

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Speaker 1: always be first through the door. Doesnt matter what to

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Speaker 1: do it in my life. This is how it rolls out.

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Speaker 2: You've already written something like two hundred songs, so you've

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Speaker 2: obviously been your back pockets just full of songs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. I was having trouble sitting down actually

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Speaker 1: when I came to No, it's a nice problem to have.

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Speaker 1: I've always been a fairly prolific songwriter, and I'm writing

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Speaker 1: new songs right now, so speaking to you even though

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Speaker 1: I should be promoting the ones I'm sitting here talking

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Speaker 1: to you about.

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Speaker 2: But as you're talking to us, scribbling song for.

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Speaker 3: Two hundred songs, how do you know which one's good

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Speaker 3: and which one, Because there'd be songs that you'd sit

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Speaker 3: there and go, this is great, and then there might

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Speaker 3: be ones where record executives or radio people say, oh, no,

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Speaker 3: I like this other one.

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Speaker 1: That you did.

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 1: It's a good problem to have. I mean, I really

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Speaker 1: don't sort of stress over that. I think the main

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Speaker 1: thing is I've sort of learned to trust myself a bit.

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Speaker 1: And also that's another reason why I like writing with

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Speaker 1: other songwriters, because other songwriters will tell you pretty quickly

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Speaker 1: if they think it's you know, okay or not. And

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Speaker 1: then that bounce off if you like, or that feedback

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Speaker 1: instant thing when you're writing with someone's really important.

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Speaker 3: I love that it makes me tear up when you

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Speaker 3: and Michael are sitting at the piano and you're playing

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Speaker 3: Never Tear Us Apart, Yeah, and just the way you're

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Speaker 3: noodling on the piano, and then it still gives me chills.

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Speaker 3: Just the way he's doing the lyrics hasn't the lyrics

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Speaker 3: haven't thought through because he used to do. He'd write

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Speaker 3: the lyrics with you, you'd write the song, and he'd

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Speaker 3: get at.

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Speaker 1: Often work between Michae and I was actually we were

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Speaker 1: really fortunate because we had sort of a really compatible

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Speaker 1: sense of sort of creative whatever it was that we

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Speaker 1: did together. But yeah, lyrically, Michael was brilliant. And also

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Speaker 1: he didn't actually play a musical instrument, you see, and

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Speaker 1: his instrument was his voice, whereas I was classically trained

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Speaker 1: on piano. I was a little kid, and I knew

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Speaker 1: how to play instruments. So it was a good match

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Speaker 1: the two of us. Yeah, and we sort of and

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Speaker 1: we weren't competitive, you know, you hear about other acts

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Speaker 1: or groups or whatever, and they both wrote songs together

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Speaker 1: and then they were very competitive later on. I never

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Speaker 1: thought of it that way with Michael, Mick.

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Speaker 3: And Keith of the Rolling Stones. That's the Beatles and

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Speaker 3: when they had all that trouble. So now they've reconciled

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Speaker 3: that whenever the Rolling Stones play, Mick goes backstage and

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Speaker 3: Keith does his set in the middle of the concert,

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Speaker 3: and that's when you can go and get a beer

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Speaker 3: and stuff like that, because, yeah, me to any stuff,

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Speaker 3: but you guys didn't have that.

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Speaker 1: Not exactly.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 1: I have met some of the Rolling Stones over the years,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, that was really interesting. Interesting people, funny people,

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Speaker 1: actually funny ha ha. Yeah, as in there not what

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Speaker 1: I thought they were going to.

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Speaker 2: So they're a good company and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah exactly. They're surprisingly like as people and entertaining,

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Speaker 1: you know, like they take themselves too seriously at all

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Speaker 3: Because I always see you guys when I like the

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Speaker 3: Wembley concert, when you guys are there, there's a moment

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Speaker 3: where you're all there and it's almost like, jeez, how

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, actually I think Bill Wyman was wandering around backstage.

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Speaker 1: In fact, there was so many people that were quite

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Speaker 1: well known, who you'd know, wandering around. I got really

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Speaker 1: nervous about that, just you know, the backstage area of

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Speaker 1: So I just sat in the toilet with a beer

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Speaker 1: and had a cigarette before I went on stage. You know,

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Speaker 1: I just because it's the only place I could think

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Speaker 2: Of casual And are you finding now you're presenting your

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Speaker 2: own songs you've written on your own Yeah, you have.

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Speaker 2: You got a sense of nerves about it again.

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Speaker 1: They're good nerves. Yeah, I make sure you know I'm

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Speaker 1: about to go on tour, which I'm excited about it.

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Speaker 1: We could tell everybody I'm doing a tour coming out

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Speaker 1: and obviously around austray except Tazzy because at the time

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Speaker 1: we booked it, we couldn't go down there, you know.

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Speaker 1: And two I want to get up there too. But

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Speaker 1: for the rest of Australia, including his South Wales, yep,

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Speaker 1: we head out into it. But I get nerves. But

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Speaker 1: nerves are important. They're just part of what you do. Really.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm a bit nervous about it.

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Speaker 2: The good phrase to be and isn't it? And how

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Speaker 2: do you feel then sitting down at a piano and

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Speaker 2: you now coming up with the lyric?

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Speaker 1: I'm okay with that, as we were talking about earlier

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Speaker 1: when I was working with Michael, because he didn't plan

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Speaker 1: an instrument, and I think it was important for him,

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Speaker 1: being the lead singer of an Excess, that he delivered

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Speaker 1: the lyric that he wanted to sing about on stage

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Speaker 1: because it meant something to him if he wrote it,

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Speaker 1: you see, and he could deliver it with passion and everything.

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Speaker 1: I want an incredible performer he was and singer, and

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Speaker 1: I'm finding the same thing. If I write my lyric

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Speaker 1: and I'm going out there singing it, at least I

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Speaker 1: believe in what I'm singing about.

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Speaker 3: And you've got this album has a real country rock,

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Speaker 3: almost Keith urbanesque vibe about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I like Keith. I meant him a couple of

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Speaker 1: times a long time, long, long time ago. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: we wrote a song together. Actually, Keith and I are

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Speaker 1: living in john in France. Yeah, a long time ago,

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Speaker 1: but very casual.

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Speaker 3: I just slipped your mind.

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Speaker 2: They just came to stay in the chalet and next

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Speaker 2: minute you're writing a song.

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Speaker 1: Actually was a castle in the perigourge district of France.

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Speaker 3: Wow, right, So Keith and Olivia just came over to

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Speaker 3: stay and you'll write a song.

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Speaker 1: And this just came like that. And it was actually

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Speaker 1: about three months came to you now, it was about

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Speaker 1: three months off and a month passed away of cancer.

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Speaker 1: And I was living in England at the time. I

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Speaker 1: lived in England for only five years. And Miles Copeland

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Speaker 1: had a castle in the Perigourg district of France. Was

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Speaker 1: I believe in not twelfth century castle next door to

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Speaker 1: Richard the Lion Hearts Castle, of course, as you do.

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Speaker 1: And he was having a songwriter's retreat. There's some people

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Speaker 1: what it was, but it's basically his idea was to

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Speaker 1: get you know, groups songwriters like minded to write songs.

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Speaker 1: And when I got there, Keith and Olivia, it happened

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Speaker 1: to be there and i'd met Keith before, I'd never

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Speaker 1: met Livia before. What a lovely lady. Beautiful Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: of course Keith's nice guy.

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Speaker 2: And did you find that your sensibilities converged in a

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Speaker 2: in a good way?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, it was. It was interesting too because

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Speaker 1: you know, I think Olivia herself had been through a

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Speaker 1: difficult experience, you know, with her own health concerns, and

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Speaker 1: my mother had passed away, and so we got on

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Speaker 1: quite well, talking about various things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But she's a lovely lady and awesome talent.

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Speaker 2: And can I ask you twelfth century castle but modern plumbing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, modern plumbing and a downside to me, that's

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Speaker 1: where they got.

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Speaker 3: The long drop from. I was watching, you know, the

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Speaker 3: long drop toilet as we know in the castle. So

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Speaker 3: in the old days, modern plumbing. The Lord would be

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Speaker 3: upstairs and there was a shaft that ran down the

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Speaker 3: side of the castle, and then there was a guy

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Speaker 3: that used to have to shovel that out. But raiders

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Speaker 3: would attack the castle by going up the shaft.

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Speaker 1: Let's leave that on alone. I was gonna say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that's highly likely. Yes, So that's the sort

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Speaker 1: of thing I do, is go up a big shaft.

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Speaker 3: When you work in the music business, you know well

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Speaker 3: well familiar with shaft backside.

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Speaker 1: Not really, Andrew, I know what you mean.

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Speaker 3: The self titled album is now. Can we hear good

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Speaker 3: Mama Bad? I love good Mama Bad. The world's gone, man,

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Speaker 3: It's just always a treat to see you. The self

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Speaker 3: titled album is available now. Andrew Baris, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Thanks mate. Great to see you too. Jonesy speak properly.

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Speaker 3: Doing very well.

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Speaker 2: Let's the songs do the talking and Amanda's