1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda in the mornings. 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 2: Let's go to the Jonesy no matter of arms right 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 2: now for the pub test, and let's talk about Margaret 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 2: Court for a minute. 5 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 3: I don't know how I feel about my. 6 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: Same you know, I thought, I think I'm changing my mind. 7 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: Let's discuss what we're discussing in. 8 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 3: The first place. 9 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: The fiftieth anniversary of Margaret Court's Grand Slam Bonanza is 10 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: coming up, and Tennis Australia has said that they will 11 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: recognize the accolade, but they won't celebrate it. Margaret caught 12 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: herself is saying, why don't we celebrate it the same 13 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: way we celebrated this Rod Labor accolade. 14 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 3: She's done better in tennis than he did. 15 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: But Rod Labor didn't say gays are going to burn 16 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: in Hell. 17 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,639 Speaker 1: No, she did not. And this is what we need 18 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: to discuss. Do we celebrate her career as a tennis 19 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: player or do we allow her private thought not private thoughts, 20 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: her public thoughts and her advocacy against same sex marriage, etcetera. 21 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: A number of things. Do we allow that to change 22 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: how we feel about her tennis? I saw a tweet 23 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: yesterday from Andrew Hornery and he has said, let. 24 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 3: Me just open my phone if I may in the room. Brendan. 25 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, he has said, here we go any minute now, 26 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: he said. She, as we all are, has to be 27 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: held accountable for her views, which she has volunteered into 28 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: the public domain. No one questions her sporting merits, but 29 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: it was her success which gave her the platform which 30 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: she chose to spread bigotry and hate not terribly Christians. 31 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 2: And I watched that Battle of the Sex is the 32 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: tennis game where she played against Billy Jean King, and 33 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: she was terrible back then. 34 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 3: She wasn't just Andy j Aparthei and terrible woman. Does 35 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 3: that matter? 36 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 2: Yes, I think it does. I think if you know, 37 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: everyone has their own private opinions about stuff. I've got 38 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 2: many private opinions, but I choose to keep them funnily 39 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: enough private. And that's and because really, at the end 40 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: of the day, whatever you say about something, whatever prejudices 41 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: you have about someone or something, you might meet that 42 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: person or you might meet someone from that area, and 43 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: you might and you go, I like this person. Well, 44 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: I thought the same, And I know gay people in 45 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: my church and I like them people. So if that's 46 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: the case, Margaret then why aren't you forget about your 47 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: religion for a minute think about being a human. 48 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: Well, Greg Baum, who is written in the Herald this morning, 49 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: and like he's kind of swaying me, he says, well, 50 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: what about all that? We don't know the thoughts of 51 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: the others, do the other superheroes who have stadiums named 52 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: after them, sporting heroes with statues everywhere? His point is 53 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: if we knew them, would we think less of them? 54 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: And the fact that her thoughts, she's being honored for 55 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: what she did on the court, not for what she 56 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: says in the pulpit. 57 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 3: They are two. 58 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: Different things, it says, and tamarca jubilee is not to 59 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: endorse her moral stance half a century later, half a 60 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: century later, this is what we're celebrating her tennis. 61 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: That's a very different shaped hot potato, and it's. 62 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: A tough one today. What do you think celebrating Margaret Court? 63 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: Does it pass the pub test? 64 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 3: Joins the and Amanda in the morning