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Speaker 1: This episode of The Surge is brought to you by Origin,

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Speaker 1: proud partners of Cricket Australia and powering the Power Surge

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Speaker 1: in BBL fifteen. We're over halfway through the BBL fifteen

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Speaker 1: and if this season has taught us anything it's to

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Speaker 1: expect the unexpected in the Big Bash. Chief, please the

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Speaker 1: read aase to a magnificent victory. Mike Cassei returns to

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Speaker 1: the desk, while Scorch's youngster Marley Bidman dials in from

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Speaker 1: Perth to take us through their thrilling win over the Strikers.

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Speaker 1: This is the Surgeyday. Everyone, Welcome back to the Surge.

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Speaker 1: Adam White with you back in the studio after being

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Speaker 1: on the road for the last couple of episodes, and

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Speaker 1: I have got Mike Hussi back with me in the studio. Mike,

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Speaker 1: welcome back today, Adam.

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Speaker 2: Great to be here again.

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Speaker 1: There's been lots going on and it feels like a

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Speaker 1: fairbits change since we spoke last.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, I'm in some exciting games, particularly the game

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Speaker 3: they seemed to always have a scorching game up there

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Speaker 3: and then a great derby last night. Really enjoyed the

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Speaker 3: Stars against the Renegades Renegades just getting home in a

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Speaker 3: real tight one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it felt like being back at the MCG in

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Speaker 1: the early nineties for World Series cricket. Just that atmosphere

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Speaker 1: of a packed house for the night cricket, that kind

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Speaker 1: of atmosphere that you don't get so much anymore in cricket.

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Speaker 1: It was so exciting.

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Speaker 3: Just under seventy thousand is incredible. You know, it's two

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Speaker 3: good rivals going head to head, some stars from both sides,

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Speaker 3: and I thought the Renegades were going to blow that.

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Speaker 3: I thought they were going to chase that score down

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Speaker 3: easily and then they just wobbled at the end. But

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Speaker 3: thankfully for them, Will Sutherland did the job at the end.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. We'll talk more about that game shortly, but just

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Speaker 1: on the actual atmosphere, I mean, there's been a lot

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Speaker 1: from nearly ten years ago when they were getting those

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Speaker 1: sorts of crowds. But not only did they get them,

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Speaker 1: the ones that went last night. I kind of feel

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Speaker 1: like they'd all want to go back again. It was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 3: I think also the earliest start time helps six o'clock.

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Speaker 2: You can bring younger kids.

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Speaker 3: Finished by nine o'clock, you can still get home by

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Speaker 3: a reasonable hour, whereas that extra hour and a quarter

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Speaker 3: in Melbourne, two good teams, earlier start time. I think

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Speaker 3: it all just I mean, we're all falling in love

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that from my case that we all

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Speaker 1: But I know Tea the executives would want the latest starts,

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Speaker 1: So it's I guess it's Alster Dobson's job to get

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Speaker 2: Isn't it definitely end?

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Speaker 1: Okay? So before we get into the games and the

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Speaker 2: Now, I mean it's a tough one. I think.

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Speaker 3: You know, Sam Harp has been really good with a

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Speaker 3: I mean those players are worth their waiting gold, you know,

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Speaker 1: Definitely, definitely right. What about a player breakout player so

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Speaker 1: They probably didn't win the game against the Renegades if

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Speaker 3: Most definitely, And I reckon that's what the the people

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Speaker 2: You know, they know they're highly skilled players.

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Speaker 3: You know everyone playing in the Big Bash has got

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Speaker 2: Those sort of attributes in players.

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Speaker 1: Definitely a breakout team before we get to some of

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Speaker 3: It is difficult. There is one team that I wasn't

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Speaker 3: off a couple of incredible victories and that's the Brisbane Heat,

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Speaker 3: chasing down two hundred and fifty seven against the Scorches

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Speaker 3: They've just got that crowd absolutely rocking up there. They're

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Speaker 1: And the thing about the Heat is if they can

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Speaker 3: get some big names back, then anything can happen.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Okay, the Brisbane Heat HUSS's breakout team so far

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Speaker 1: at the moment. I want to start with the Melbourne Stars.

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Speaker 1: You always like to be positive when you think, when

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Speaker 1: obviously last night with the Renegades and the Stars. The Stars,

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's any cause for panic whatsoever. You know,

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Speaker 3: they've lost two tight games. It can happen in T

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Speaker 3: twenty cricket. It's a volatile game. You just need one

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Speaker 3: they'll be disappointed to lose those two games, but they've

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Speaker 3: I just think they just need to get back to

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Speaker 3: just you know, playing their game, executing their skills, which

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Speaker 3: I feel like even last night, they were just getting

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Speaker 2: They just got to play their game.

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Speaker 3: Well, there was plenty of spices in it last night.

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Speaker 1: Because I think it changes the way the Hurricanes play.

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Speaker 3: was Ward the one that was that took the game

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Speaker 3: away from the Thunder. It was a great performance.

438
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Speaker 1: Shots that I didn't think he was capable of playing

439
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Speaker 1: because it's all that he's temperament and he is technique

440
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Speaker 1: not some of the things that he was doing up

441
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Speaker 1: in Sydney. So what does that mean for the Thunder now?

442
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Speaker 1: I mean, David Warner goes to makes one hundred and thirty,

443
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Speaker 1: I'm not out they don't win. This is a team

444
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Speaker 1: that's got a lot of experience. They've played in the

445
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Speaker 1: Grand Final last year and mathematically it looks almost impossible

446
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Speaker 1: for them now to make the finals.

447
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Speaker 2: Well, I believe there's still a two percent chance and.

448
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Speaker 1: The Star think the Stars were one percent chance.

449
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Speaker 3: I'm not really willing to write anyone off because the

450
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Speaker 3: Melbourne Stars after last year were zero and five. Now

451
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Speaker 3: the Thunder one and five. Yep, so one and five,

452
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Speaker 3: so they're still on par with the Stars. But they're

453
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Speaker 3: going to have to get something going. And that David

454
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Speaker 3: Warner innings was absolutely incredible watching some of that. He

455
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Speaker 3: was vintage David Warner. And they don't deserve to lose

456
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Speaker 3: that game when you've got one player that plays that

457
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Speaker 3: well and makes you know, we'll just say one hundred

458
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Speaker 3: and thirty.

459
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a shame.

460
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Speaker 3: It's a shame for the Thunder, but they've still got

461
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Speaker 3: to believe and sometimes like the Stars last year. You

462
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Speaker 3: get yourself into this position, you become really dangerous because

463
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Speaker 3: you think, well, we're unlucky to make the finds. We've

464
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Speaker 3: got nothing to lose. Now, let's just go out there

465
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Speaker 3: and just see what happens. And you can get on

466
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Speaker 3: these rolls. And the Stars showed it last year. And

467
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Speaker 3: I'm not riding the Thunder off from doing that either,

468
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Speaker 3: because they've got enough quality there. They just haven't put

469
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Speaker 3: it together yet. And while they're still a mathematical chance,

470
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Speaker 3: then I'm not willing to write them off.

471
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Speaker 1: If you talk to other teams, they'll say the same thing.

472
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Speaker 1: They're they're of the belief that the Thunder are a

473
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Speaker 1: top fourteen. Yeah, and so they will take them very

474
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Speaker 1: seriously from now to the end of the season as well.

475
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Speaker 1: They're not going to be taking them lightly.

476
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Speaker 3: Well, you can't take any game lightly, but you just

477
00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,320
Speaker 3: don't like come up against teams like that when they've

478
00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,679
Speaker 3: got nothing to feel like they've got nothing to play for,

479
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Speaker 3: they become really dangerous.

480
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Speaker 1: Agree, all right? That is that the power play for

481
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Speaker 1: this edition of the Surge. Next is the young staff

482
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Speaker 1: from the West. His name is Mali Bidman. He will

483
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Speaker 1: join us on the surge.

484
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Speaker 2: He's just trying to heave a good le. I have

485
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Speaker 2: a mid wicket, give himself for a room, so the

486
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Speaker 2: stunts mix it.

487
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Speaker 1: Have gotten bites to dust.

488
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Speaker 2: This is just a procession slow ball from Bev and

489
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Speaker 2: i'skul a bit of bowling, actually just a bounce.

490
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Speaker 1: Yes, Marley Beidman one of the young stars of not

491
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Speaker 1: only the Scorches but the entire BBL competition, and he

492
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Speaker 1: joins us on the surge. Marley, thanks so much for joining.

493
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Speaker 4: Us, No worries, thank you for having me.

494
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Speaker 1: Guys, that was a big win last night. You had

495
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Speaker 1: to do it the hard way and for a lot

496
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Speaker 1: of the night I didn't think you were going to

497
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Speaker 1: get the win, but you got over the line. It

498
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Speaker 1: was quite a dramatic performance and an impressing one.

499
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

500
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Speaker 5: Absolutely, quite a bizarre quite a bizarre wicket to be honest,

501
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Speaker 5: as we thought. Ended up playing obviously a huge, huge

502
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Speaker 5: role with the spin in both sides of the game.

503
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Speaker 5: And yeah, I mean it was just just an incredible win.

504
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Speaker 1: Now, Mike's got a lot of questions for you, but

505
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Speaker 1: I did want to ask you about you know, when

506
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Speaker 1: you see a game change where there's so much spin

507
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 1: being bald and you're a fast bowler. What are you

508
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Speaker 1: thinking sitting in the standing in the field.

509
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Speaker 4: It was a mixture of things.

510
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Speaker 5: I think cutters were working pretty well at the time,

511
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Speaker 5: and obviously we had some experience there with Joel and

512
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Speaker 5: those boys who have played a lot of cricket across

513
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Speaker 5: a lot of a lot of different wickets. So it

514
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Speaker 5: was conveyed pretty early that paced on looks pretty nice

515
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,959
Speaker 5: and that sort of the three three quarter team and

516
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Speaker 5: off cutters and things were sticking a little bit more.

517
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Speaker 4: So.

518
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it was just sort of about adjusting

519
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Speaker 5: as quick as we could there and then yeah, as

520
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Speaker 5: a bowling, you know, just adapt.

521
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Speaker 3: Yeah, good Amali, myke custody here mate. So you guys

522
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Speaker 3: didn't look like you had enough runs at the halfway

523
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Speaker 3: mark of that game. What sort of things were spoken

524
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Speaker 3: by Adam Vojas, the bowling coaches and all the bowlers

525
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Speaker 3: amongst yourselves about what you needed to do in that

526
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Speaker 3: second inning to try and give yourself a chance to win.

527
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Speaker 5: I think, to be honest, there was a mixture of

528
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Speaker 5: things at came out and said we thought we were obviously

529
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Speaker 5: a few short.

530
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Speaker 4: We sort of built a reputation.

531
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Speaker 5: And a legacy around competing and scrapping hard in low totals.

532
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Speaker 5: So At just said, regardless of what the outcome was,

533
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Speaker 5: that he wanted us to bring energy and fight and

534
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Speaker 5: that was a real sort of focus point for us

535
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Speaker 5: of regardless of what went on and obviously how many

536
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Speaker 5: runs we had in the show, we just wanted to

537
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Speaker 5: go out there with an intent and obviously we're going

538
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Speaker 5: to play the Strikers again in a few days time,

539
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Speaker 5: so if there's any way to leave a few scars.

540
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Speaker 4: There, and that was the plan.

541
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

542
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Speaker 3: And the atmosphere at the ground seemed incredible last night,

543
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Speaker 3: and you guys as players seemed more pumped up than usual,

544
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Speaker 3: especially like someone like Joel Paris. He was running around

545
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Speaker 3: like an eighteen year old after getting a wicket.

546
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

547
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Speaker 5: Absolutely, I think forty thousand people are obvious. Is such

548
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Speaker 5: an incredible atmosphere, as you said, and such an incredible energy.

549
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Speaker 5: So yeah, I speak Jolia let loose there for a

550
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Speaker 5: few hours and started running around like aheadlets's chock.

551
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Speaker 4: A little bit.

552
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Speaker 5: But yeah, I think that that passion and energy is

553
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Speaker 5: just awesome. I think it shows how much it matters

554
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Speaker 5: to us and how much we care about going out

555
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Speaker 5: there and trying to put on a performance as a bowling.

556
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Speaker 1: In it, you talked about the trademark of defending those

557
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Speaker 1: scores and getting down and dirty when you have to

558
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Speaker 1: talk to us about some of the things that you've

559
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Speaker 1: had to learn as a relatively new player to the

560
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Speaker 1: team to be like some of the great scorches bowlers

561
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Speaker 1: of the past and keep that reputation going.

562
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Speaker 4: Still very much a working progress, still learning.

563
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Speaker 5: Every day off that group, and obviously have such an

564
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 5: incredible wealth of knowledge behind the scenes as well with

565
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Speaker 5: when Richo's around and Lance when he's not playing, but

566
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Speaker 5: he's still around the group. So I'm very much still

567
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 5: learning as I'm going. But I think a lot of

568
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Speaker 5: a lot of it, to be honest, is an attitude

569
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Speaker 5: and a mindset thing which I've had to sort of

570
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Speaker 5: adapt through the senior boys. Seems to be just a

571
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 5: willingness of belief and fight regardless of where you are

572
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Speaker 5: in the game and sort of regardless of what position

573
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Speaker 5: you're in. Is that WAA is that we think we

574
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Speaker 5: can get back in any game and we can end

575
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Speaker 5: up winning any game. And I think that's driven from

576
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 5: v Adam Bogs and the coaching staff, and then obviously

577
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Speaker 5: at being one of the most competitive people I've ever

578
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 5: met also adds on.

579
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Speaker 4: Top of that.

580
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Speaker 5: So, yeah, it's an incredible culture and it's an absolute

581
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 5: privilege to be able to put that hat on and

582
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 5: sort of following the footsteps of some of the most

583
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Speaker 5: incredible fast bowlers and bowlers of the game has I've

584
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Speaker 5: ever seen.

585
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Speaker 1: So is that a pressure to be like them? Or

586
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Speaker 1: is it actually quite easy because you've got so many

587
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Speaker 1: players that are still within the Scorches organization that that

588
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Speaker 1: that care, that that legacy almost for them to sort

589
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Speaker 1: of pass on to you that hey, this is the

590
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Speaker 1: way you do it, and it's actually not not too difficult,

591
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Speaker 1: not too much of a pressure.

592
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's one hundred percent of privilege.

593
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Speaker 5: I think, yeah, it's an absolute privilege that I said,

594
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Speaker 5: to be able to put that hat on and to

595
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Speaker 5: be able to run out there with that group, and

596
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 5: what they've accomplished over the last few years, not only

597
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 5: through Ebash but through West Australian cricket and domestic cricket

598
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Speaker 5: has been absolutely incredible. So there's always going to be

599
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Speaker 5: a little bit of a little bit of pressure and

600
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Speaker 5: a little bit of expectation, but it's very minimal, and

601
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Speaker 5: I think just the understanding of that I'm able to

602
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Speaker 5: do what I love and to be able to follow

603
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 5: in the footsteps of such great cricket. Is it something

604
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Speaker 5: that's an absolute privilege?

605
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Speaker 3: Can you just take us back to you know, you

606
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Speaker 3: as a child and your journey and your cricket career

607
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Speaker 3: so far.

608
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Speaker 2: Just just give the listeners a bit of.

609
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Speaker 3: An insight about where you've come from, how you got

610
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Speaker 3: into fast bawling, and yeah, your journey so far.

611
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I started off down south in a little town

612
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 5: called Guarama in the southwest, close to Margaret River, And yeah,

613
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Speaker 5: I sort of grew up there and had a pretty

614
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Speaker 5: normal upbringing for a down South boy.

615
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Speaker 4: Love my diving, love my surfing.

616
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Speaker 5: Anytime I could get in the ocean, that was sort

617
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Speaker 5: of where all my spare time went. And then sort

618
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Speaker 5: of started to pick up a cricket ball a little

619
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Speaker 5: bit later, I think I was. I played milo cricket

620
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Speaker 5: originally and then didn't really sign up for a junior's

621
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Speaker 5: team and just played a lot of backyard cricket with

622
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Speaker 5: my old man. And then I think I would have

623
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Speaker 5: been around year four or so, year three maybe was

624
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Speaker 5: down in the nets and a great man named Bill

625
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 5: van Vliet was a batmaker and surfboard shaper in quirum Up.

626
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 5: At the time, I was having a hit in the

627
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Speaker 5: nets and he came up to me and gave me

628
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Speaker 5: my first bat and I remember that so vividly, and

629
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Speaker 5: remember seeing in at the quareum Up nets and just

630
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 5: trying to bowl as fast as I could after I

631
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 5: watched Mitchell Johnson in that twenty thirteen forty Nash series

632
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 5: and then yeah, I sort of just fell in love

633
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Speaker 5: with the game from there and signed up for a

634
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 5: local team and played for quirum Up that first year,

635
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 5: and then ended up moving up north to Dampier and

636
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 5: played a couple of years of club cricket up there

637
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Speaker 5: before I got scouted by the Whacker.

638
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Speaker 4: And I was about thirteen.

639
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Speaker 5: I was twelve or thirteen, and then moved down to

640
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Speaker 5: Perth for high schooling went down to Melbourne. Then yeah,

641
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 5: it just sort of went from there. Played the full juniors,

642
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 5: made my first grade debut at fifteen, and then yeah,

643
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Speaker 5: I played a couple of years the first grade and

644
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Speaker 5: then got my first contract when I was eighteen, and

645
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Speaker 5: then yeah, it's just sort of all float on from there.

646
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Speaker 1: It sounds like male he's about forty six going through that,

647
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 1: and he still funny enough.

648
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 3: Nathan Colton, I was now playing down a kowerhum up there,

649
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 3: and I think he's terrorizing some of the batters down there.

650
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 3: But what about some of the most influential coaches you've

651
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 3: had in your career so far? I know you're still young,

652
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 3: but have there been any any bowling coaches that have,

653
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 3: you know, really had a big impression on you.

654
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been I've been very fortunate so far to

655
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 5: work with some incredible names. DK Lily has been one

656
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 5: that's been there for me since I was sort of

657
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 5: thirteen or fourteen, which has been absolutely incredible. And then yeah,

658
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 5: I was going through Mattie Mason early days at w

659
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 5: A was also amazing, and then working with Timmy mackinaw

660
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 5: he's been absolutely incredible. But yeah, I've I've been super

661
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 5: fortunate to be able to work with some incredible names.

662
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, You've got to tell us how do how does

663
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: how is this possible that you get to work with

664
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: Dennis Lily?

665
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 4: This is a funny story.

666
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 5: I was back down We're in perfect time, but we

667
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 5: went back down south over the holiday break. I was

668
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 5: in about I was in year nine or so, and

669
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 5: I was coming back from a stretchy and I was

670
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 5: bowling to a bin down the.

671
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 4: Side of a mate's house as fast as I could

672
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 4: on a gravel road. It was absolutely peppering the bin.

673
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 5: And he has two houses, and he was watching from

674
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 5: his house up on top of the hill. For some reason,

675
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 5: thought that there was a little bit of pace there,

676
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 5: or there's a little.

677
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 4: Bit of something. And he was very good friends with

678
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:22,479
Speaker 4: a man named Rod Dugan.

679
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 5: He's a close friend of Dkays and Max got in

680
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,719
Speaker 5: contact with Rod, and so our kids absolutely peppering him

681
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 5: bin on the side of the house, and I think

682
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 5: he's got a little bit of pace behind him. So

683
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 5: gave Rod a call, and then Rod got a hold

684
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 5: of DK and Decay sort of came back and was like,

685
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 5: I don't really want to work with anyone under the

686
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 5: age of seventeen or eighteen his singers. Once they developed

687
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 5: their own action and their own understanding of cricket, then

688
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 5: he felt like he could help them. He didn't want

689
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 5: to grab people too early and sort of change anything.

690
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 5: So yeah, I ended up that just sort of got

691
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 5: buried and he months went by and then was I

692
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 5: don't actually remember how it all ended up happening, to

693
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 5: be honest, but I think I was back down there again,

694
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 5: and Rod got in contact with Dennis again and eventually

695
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 5: convinced him to have a session down at South Perth

696
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 5: and went down to the nets as a thirteen or

697
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 5: fourteen year old and Dka watched and then from there

698
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 5: sort of ended up breaking his own rule, which was

699
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 5: which is an absolute privilege And um, yeah, as I said,

700
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 5: I'm very thankful, very fortunate to have him in my corner.

701
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: You have got a beautiful smooth action.

702
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 3: You have you modeled that on anyone in particular, There's

703
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 3: been a few.

704
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's been modeled off.

705
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 5: There was a lot of inspiration from Dalas Dane when

706
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 5: I was young, watching him charge in and bowl as

707
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 5: quick as he could and terrorized batsman. I think that

708
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 5: was That was a yeah, that was probably the most

709
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 5: the most influential cricketer I had. And then as Mitchell

710
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 5: Johnson in that Ashes series, as any young kid has watched,

711
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 5: was pretty incredible. And then I went through a bit

712
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 5: of a stage of loving watching the old West Indies

713
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 5: ear of Malcolm Marshall and so forth, and yeah, went

714
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 5: back through that are and sort of fell in love

715
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 5: with fast bawling through that as well. So there's been

716
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 5: a combination of people, but I'd say Dale Staine would

717
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 5: have been probably the number one.

718
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,719
Speaker 3: Oh that's I was one of those bad when they

719
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,959
Speaker 3: were terrorized by Dale Stain. I hated facing him. I'm

720
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 3: getting the ships now just thinking about it.

721
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: It's just thinking about that that famous series the other

722
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: day video.

723
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: Embarrassing.

724
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: See, Like, I know you've had some injury issues through

725
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: your young career, which inevitably happens with most young fast bowlers.

726
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: But how difficult is it to sort of rein it

727
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: back and not want to get the radar gun hitting

728
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: one point fifty and just managing your own body as

729
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: much as anything to make sure that you can have

730
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: a long sustained career.

731
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 5: Nearly impossible, to be honest, I think, Yeah, once here

732
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 5: to speak again, you sort of fall in love with that,

733
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 5: and it can be dangerous, to be honest, It almost

734
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,959
Speaker 5: can be a little bit, yeah, a negative thing I

735
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 5: feel because it's fast fallowings. I've personally found one of

736
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 5: those ones where if I feel like i'msing it ends

737
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 5: up coming out slower. And it's one of those ones

738
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 5: where I feel like, when I'm in rhythm and when

739
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 5: I'm not thinking about it and you sort of enter

740
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 5: that flow state, that's when you end up bowling your quickest.

741
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 5: So it's a tough one of you always got your

742
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 5: eyes on the gun and you always wanting to bowl fast,

743
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 5: but at the same time, I feel like when I'm

744
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 5: bowling my quickest is when I'm in my best rhythm,

745
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 5: and that's when you're just not thinking about it and

746
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 5: it just flows naturally. So yeah, it can be a

747
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 5: hard one, especially a training when you want to crank

748
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 5: it up, it can be a hard one. But yeah,

749
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 5: I try not to worry about the gun as much

750
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 5: when I'm playing and just sort of find that rhythm

751
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 5: and just worry about competing and then normally the pace

752
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 5: will follow if I do that.

753
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 3: And You've had some experience around Australian squads and Australian

754
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 3: teams in the last year or two. What have you

755
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 3: learned from being around those guys and what's that experience

756
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 3: been like.

757
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,959
Speaker 4: It was incredible. The first ODI two that I went

758
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 4: away on was absolutely amazing.

759
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 5: I was down in Margaret River at the time surfing

760
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 5: and at the beach on the Sunday, and then it

761
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 5: was not sure if I wanted to drive up on Monday.

762
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 4: I didn't have training till Tuesday.

763
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 5: Wasn't too sure, but decided luckily to drive up and

764
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 5: got a call in the morning from an unknown number

765
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 5: and was a little bit rather across what's going on

766
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 5: here early in the mornings about eight o'clock, and ended

767
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 5: up not answering it, and then got a text message

768
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 5: from Dodders and it said, hey, mate, give me a

769
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 5: call back when you get a chance, and not gonna lie.

770
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 4: I wasn't one.

771
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 5: Hundred percent sure who the number was, and then did

772
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 5: a quick Google search and figured out that I've probably

773
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 5: picked that phone call up pretty quickly, so called Dodters back.

774
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 5: And then yeah, I got the news that I was

775
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 5: on the plane in a day's time and went over

776
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 5: and got to finally meet Staky and got to finally

777
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 5: meet Haff and sort of just stand behind him and

778
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 5: pick their brain as much as possible, And yeah, it

779
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 5: was an incredible couple of weeks. And then recently I've

780
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 5: been fortunate enough to go over the T teny Scott again, and.

781
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 4: See Nelly go about his business.

782
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 5: And again watch Half and how those boys go and

783
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 5: how incredible they are, and yeah, just trying to pick

784
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 5: their brains as much as possible.

785
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: You're a great storyteller. It's really cool listening to this, Mali.

786
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: So when you're watching them, did you feel I'm miles away?

787
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: Or by actually watching them and observing him feeling, actually,

788
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: I'm not that far away. If I can get this right,

789
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: that right, and listen to this, listen to that that

790
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: that I'm kind of in the mix, I'm not far away.

791
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: It's almost touching distance.

792
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 4: It was a mixture, to be honest. At the start,

793
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 4: I felt like I was miles away.

794
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 5: I was. I was only a traveling reserve, so there

795
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 5: was no real chance of playing, and I just knew

796
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 5: I was over there, so obviously just solow up as

797
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 5: much as I can.

798
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 4: So I always feel when I watched SHARKI and those guys.

799
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 5: Will always feel like I'm a one hundred kilometers away

800
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 5: because they're so so incredible what they do. But it

801
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 5: was sort of as the tournament went on, Dwarsh went

802
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 5: down with a pack and then someone got injured, and

803
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 5: then I think Starky was overcoming a flu or something,

804
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 5: and I sort of realized I was like, oh my god,

805
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 5: I'm two people away here from almost having to run

806
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 5: out and take the new rock. The way things was going,

807
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 5: everyone was going down with injury or sickness. So I

808
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 5: thought I had to flick that that mindset pretty quickly

809
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,479
Speaker 5: and realize that if I do have to go out

810
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 5: and bolder, Harry Brook probably shouldn't be thinking I'm a

811
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 5: hundred silmeter. So switched on a bit there, and then Yeah,

812
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 5: I think as it went on, and just the more

813
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 5: that I got to pick those boys' brains.

814
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 4: Sort of the more confidence I got in myself.

815
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 5: But yeah, also just just amazing how sort of welcoming

816
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 5: and understanding Starky and those boys are as well. They

817
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 5: make you feel like you're a part of the unit

818
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 5: straight away, and I think that was, Yeah, that helped massively.

819
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 3: There's been a lot of talk about some of the

820
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 3: next generation coming through, the young guns yourself. How do

821
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 3: you deal with that sort of external sort of pressure

822
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 3: and expectation. I guess on young guys coming through, I.

823
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 4: Don't think there's a lot of pressure there.

824
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 5: I think it's more of a as I say, a privileged,

825
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 5: to be honest, to be sort of put in that bracket.

826
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people have spoken about that

827
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 5: World Cup group from a couple of years ago and

828
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 5: the talent that's come out of that, and I think that, Yeah,

829
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 5: when we finished that World Cup, I realized and I

830
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 5: looked around and I thought, this is an incredible group

831
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 5: of cricketers. And then over the next sort of three

832
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 5: to five years, if we didn't see a lot of

833
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 5: national representatives or domestic success, I would have been a

834
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 5: little bit stumped, to be honest, because of how the

835
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:04,760
Speaker 5: talent that came out of that group.

836
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think it was. Yeah, it's an.

837
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 5: Absolutely on an a privilege to be able to sort

838
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 5: of be put in that next generation and to be

839
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 5: put in that position to be able to learn off

840
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 5: the senior boys now.

841
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think we saw what Sammy.

842
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 5: Did over the last few months, and even harder seeing

843
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 5: hitting his three hundred or whatever crazy number he did

844
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 5: in that one day game in Great Cricket, I think, yeah,

845
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 5: just the talent that have come out of that group

846
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 5: is absolutely incredible, and yeah, I can't wait to see

847
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 5: what happens over the next few years.

848
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: So does that then help you knowing what Sam's been

849
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: able to do for his country and obviously finish South

850
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: Wales as well, and what Vidla did in a Shield final,

851
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: and you know there's countless other examples. You've just given

852
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: a couple as well. Do you kind of feel like, well,

853
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: if they can do it, I can do it. It's

854
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: just a matter of time. Is that kind of how

855
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: you see it? Yeah?

856
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I think Sammy was a huge that was a

857
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 5: massive inspiration to all of us. So I remember the

858
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 5: group chat got brought back from the dead when it

859
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 5: was ramping. Boomer at one hundred and forty was sending

860
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 5: in video saying what is going on here? So yeah,

861
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 5: I think it's a huge inspiration obviously, and it was

862
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 5: such an incredible evenings. And then as you said, VI's

863
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 5: on one hundred and fifty and only absolute rockets in

864
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 5: the Shield final was amazing as well. So there's constant

865
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 5: motivation there. Even Peaky the other than artwhack them in

866
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 5: that big Bash game. I think there's always there's always

867
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 5: going to be inspiration and motivation there. And I know

868
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 5: personally I just used that as few I see the

869
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 5: other boys my age and from that group doing incredible

870
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 5: things in a high level of cricket. I just try

871
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 5: and use that as motivation. So I'm sure we're all

872
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 5: on a pretty similar page. And yeah, as I said,

873
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 5: I can't wait to see what that group does.

874
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: And what's your major goal.

875
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 3: You've obviously played a fair bit of white ball cricket

876
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 3: and not a lot of red bull cricket just yet.

877
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 3: But is your dream to play test cricket or are

878
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 3: you're happy just playing the shorter forms of the game.

879
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 4: No.

880
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 5: Test cricket, absolutely, I think that's any young kids dream

881
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 5: to be honest, to be able to put the baggy

882
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 5: ground on your head and run out in the test

883
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 5: match boxing day. Test would be the absolutely absolute pinnacle

884
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 5: for me personally. So it's just been more of a

885
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 5: body thing recently of trying to get my body right.

886
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 5: I've had a few little little niggles and little injuries

887
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 5: that have sort of held me back from being able

888
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 5: to build a consistent load to be able to attack

889
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 5: red ball properly. So it's just about getting through the

890
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 5: start of the season, get a few one day games

891
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 5: in and then roll into Big Bash and hopefully get

892
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 5: through this no worries and then yeah, have a look

893
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 5: at where I'm sitting, and I think there'll be a

894
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 5: decent chat about whether or not my body will be

895
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 5: in a good position to have a look at red

896
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 5: ball the back half of the year.

897
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 3: Also, the plan is to hopefully play some sheffield Shire

898
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 3: cricket at the back end of the season.

899
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll see see where we are, whether that's second

900
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 5: eleven or Gray cricket and build up from there. But yeah,

901
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 5: I think it will be starting a limited overs red

902
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 5: ball game would assume sort of tapping myself at a

903
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 5: number and whatever that is, and then hopefully showing some

904
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 5: resilience and yeah, being able to build up into hopefully

905
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 5: it will be a shill game.

906
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: Just finally, Marley, we really appreciate your time just on

907
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: the scorches and what's possible this year because the bowling

908
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: in US has talked about this, We've all talked about it.

909
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: It's so different this year to previous years. There's so

910
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: much more of a focus on the likes of yourself.

911
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: What do you think is possible for this group in twenty.

912
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 4: Six Absolutely anything. I honestly believe that.

913
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 5: I still look at our batting lineup now on the

914
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 5: scoreboard and we line up and think that would be

915
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 5: an absolute nightmare of ball two. So I think, yeah,

916
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 5: I think we've got so much power up top and

917
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 5: a great mix of experience in youth between our bowling lineup.

918
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 4: So I think we're just starting to gel now.

919
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 5: I think we're actually yeah, I feel like we're starting

920
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 5: to grow as a unit and as I said, trust.

921
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 4: Ourselves a bit more.

922
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 5: And it's such a it looks it's such a different

923
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 5: look for the Scorches and obviously having dworphin AJ and

924
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 5: all these people that have been around for long periods

925
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 5: of time now it is a different look. But I

926
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 5: think we're starting to play some really strong cricket now.

927
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 5: And as I said, I think our batting lineup is

928
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 5: absolutely incredible, So I think anything is possible. I don't

929
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 5: want to jinx anything too much in such early doors,

930
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 5: but yeah, I think that the sky is the limit

931
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 5: for our group.

932
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for Johnny us sharing your story.

933
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: I know that there's a lot more young cricket fans

934
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: now that know a lot more about you from the

935
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: way you've just shared your your stories. Feels like it's

936
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: almost like this is your life you've gone through all

937
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: the way back. But it's been awesome and all your

938
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: best cricket is still certainly to come. Thank you for

939
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: sharing and good luck for the rest of the tournament.

940
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:38,760
Speaker 4: No worry, thank you for having me guys.

941
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: Marley Biardman, Johnny is on the surge. We're back with

942
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: more after this. So good to catch up with one

943
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: of the young stars of the competition in Marley Biardman.

944
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: He speaks very well as well. He's an impressive young man.

945
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 1: It's time now to get into yes no waight hasten

946
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: and we put you under a lot of pressure last time.

947
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: Let's see whether we can do the same again. We

948
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: did talk a little bit earlier about tim Ward they

949
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: unlocked the gem or do you need to see a

950
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: little bit more.

951
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 3: I'd like to see a little bit more, so I'll wait.

952
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 3: I'm happy to wait on that one. But I really

953
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 3: enjoyed his innings against the Sydney Thunder and that'll help

954
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 3: his confidence as well, because I think getting an opportunity

955
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 3: at the top of the order in the Big Bash,

956
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 3: he would have been unsure whether he's good enough, and

957
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 3: so that's half the battle sometime is being able to

958
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 3: do it once say okay, I am good enough to

959
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 3: do this, I can perform at this level, so he

960
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 3: looks like he's got the skills. I think if someone

961
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 3: like me Jol can get going at the other end,

962
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 3: that can take some pressure off him as well. So

963
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 3: I'm willing to wait, but I'm edging towards a yes.

964
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: Okay, Glenn Maxwell's form with the bat is becoming an

965
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: issue for the Stars.

966
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 3: No, No, definitely not. I don't like him batting so low.

967
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 3: I understand the theory behind it, because he can finish

968
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 3: games off as well as anyone and as quickly as anyone.

969
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 3: But I don't think it's a concern. I mean, they're

970
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 3: getting runs from other sources at the moment. Sam Harp

971
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 3: has been awesome, Marcus Sdin is scoring runs, so I

972
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 3: don't think it's a concern. And you just know that

973
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 3: there's going to be a game or two, or three

974
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 3: or maybe even four where Maxie gets going.

975
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 1: All right, We've only got to go back to last

976
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: year where he didn't have the best start of first

977
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,959
Speaker 1: half of the competition, then came home like a freight train.

978
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: It almost single handling got them into the finals. I

979
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: think we've got to just remember that that wasn't that

980
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: long ago. The strikers aren't good enough to play finals

981
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: this year or.

982
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 2: I think that's real.

983
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: Yes, again, I'm not willing to write them off, but

984
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 3: their batting looks thin to me, and so much pressure

985
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 3: on your chrystline and you're Matt short. They don't get runs,

986
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 3: then I feel as low there they're going to be

987
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 3: struggling a bit. So yeah, I feel like they're not

988
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,919
Speaker 3: in the top four teams. I'm not saying they can't

989
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 3: make the finals, because you can always get on a

990
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 3: bit of a run, but I don't feel like they're

991
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 3: one of the four best teams in the camp fair enough.

992
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: There's no denying that the Gabba is the home of

993
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: the big bash thriller.

994
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 3: Well I'm going to say yes, although having said that,

995
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 3: last night at the MCG was an absolute cracker of

996
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 3: a game. I really enjoyed that. But I get excited

997
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 3: every time I come to the Gabba one. The crowd's great,

998
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 3: they get right into the game. Conditions are beautiful up there,

999
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 3: beautiful pitch. There's bit of pace and bit of bounce

1000
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 3: for the bowlers, but it's also great comes onto the

1001
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 3: bat so you see lots of runs, you know, lots

1002
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 3: of sixers, and it's always very exciting.

1003
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: Was that the favorite place you for you as a

1004
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: player to bat was the Gabba, the one that you

1005
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: got excited about the most.

1006
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 3: Oh, favorite is It's hard to pick a favorite, but

1007
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 3: I did love batting there just because the pitch was

1008
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 3: so good for batting. It was true, came onto the

1009
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 3: bat you could score all around the ground.

1010
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 2: Once you get in.

1011
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 3: You'd have to work out early in rings because it

1012
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 3: had that extra pace and bounce and it could swing

1013
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 3: around a little bit. But once you got in, Oh,

1014
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 3: it was a dream to bat on and you could

1015
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 3: just feel like you could hit the battle wherever you wanted.

1016
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: Did you get seduced by the short boundaries straight as well?

1017
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 3: See the problem for me, Whitey was that every boundary

1018
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 3: felt big, didn't matter. I never felt like I had

1019
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 3: a short boundary ever.

1020
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: Ah yeah, I'm not even going to go there. I

1021
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 1: think I've seen you hit plenty of sixers to suggest otherwise.

1022
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: Not opening the batting with David Warner at the start

1023
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: of the tournament, he's now coming back to costs or

1024
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: now coming back to haunt the thunder.

1025
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: I think I agree with that. I think that's a yes.

1026
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 3: I mean, anytime you come up against David Warner, where

1027
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 3: do you not want him to bat? And that's probably

1028
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 3: at the top because you know, if he gets going,

1029
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 3: he's going to take the game away from you, like

1030
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 3: you know what he did to the Hurricanes the other night.

1031
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 3: Plus they've got experience in the middle there with Sam Billings,

1032
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 3: So I understand if there was a lot of inexperience

1033
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 3: through the middle, then you can put David Warner in

1034
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 3: the middle, control that middle part of the innings, play

1035
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 3: the spin well, run hard between the wickets, finish the

1036
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 3: game off. I understand that thinking when you've got someone

1037
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 3: like Billings there to do that exact role, and I

1038
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 3: think you're better off just getting Warner at the top.

1039
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 3: I mean, again, you can understand what they were thinking.

1040
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 3: Jokes and Constance two exciting young players, but they're not

1041
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 3: a David Warner. They've looked okay and they've got them

1042
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 3: off to a quick start every now and then, but

1043
00:43:58,760 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 3: neither of them have gone on with it to get

1044
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 3: a big match winning score. David Warner, when he gets going,

1045
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 3: he will get you a match winning score.

1046
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: Isn't that the underrated part of what you've just said?

1047
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: Then around. We see around the competition an exciting own

1048
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: player can go out there and get fifty off thirty balls,

1049
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: sixty off twenty eight balls, but then get out. We

1050
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: saw what David Warner did. Now, okay it didn't result

1051
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: in a victory, but that ability to turn a really

1052
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 1: good start into a big score where others can bat.

1053
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 3: Around, definitely, And again for the young guys out there

1054
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 3: national selectors, yeah, they're looking for that calmness and composure

1055
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 3: under pressure, executing his skills under pressure. But they're looking

1056
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 3: for those sort of players that play those match winning

1057
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 3: innings that can turn that fifty into an eighty or

1058
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 3: ninety one hundred. And that's why I was so pleased

1059
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 3: with for someone like Josh Brown last night, because he

1060
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 3: got to fifty after getting I think in his previous

1061
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 3: match he got a good forty and looked really good

1062
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 3: and I was just hoping that it's come on now,

1063
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 3: switch on and keep going. And I thought the way

1064
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 3: he played through that middle phase of the game was

1065
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 3: really good. Now disappointing to get our when he did,

1066
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 3: because he had a chance to take the Renegades all

1067
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 3: the way to victory, but it was a little tick

1068
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 3: in his development as a player to just kick on

1069
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 3: a little bit more than rather than being happy with

1070
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 3: his forty or fifteen.

1071
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. Interesting. Another thing that came out of that Thunder

1072
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: Hurricanes game was Nick Madison retiring himself out. Now, I

1073
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: must confess I'm surprised this hasn't happened more often. I

1074
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: think it was a selfless move from Madison, who, as

1075
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: I understand it, made that call himself as opposed to

1076
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: it coming from the dugout. But last I'm sort of

1077
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: putting words in your mouth. Yes, no, wait, a good decision.

1078
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 3: I'm going to say weight because I don't necessarily like

1079
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 3: it personally right now. I've been involved with teams. So

1080
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 3: the Chennai Super Kings, we retired Devon Conway. He was

1081
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 3: sixty odd not out and he was getting tired. He

1082
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 3: was losing a bit of power, so we retired him

1083
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 3: at the back end of the T twenty innings and

1084
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 3: he comes off and he was bemused, like he was like,

1085
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 3: hang on, I'm on sixty five seventy not out. I

1086
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 3: feel like I'm going well, and you've retired me to

1087
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 3: bring in like a hit it to finish things off

1088
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 3: with the Nick Madison one he'd invested thirty however, many

1089
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 3: balls he'd faced on the wicket, so he was used

1090
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 3: to the conditions. It's not that easy for a new

1091
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 3: player to come in, I eat Daniel Sands and just

1092
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 3: hit the ball out of the park from ball one.

1093
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 3: So the question for me is I understand the thinking,

1094
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 3: and Sam's came in and to be fair, did a

1095
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 3: reasonable job. But could Madison Madison have done just as

1096
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 3: good a job, if not better, because he had been

1097
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 3: out there for longer and used to the conditions. I mean,

1098
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 3: we'll never know the answer that question. So what did

1099
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 3: Sam's hit? I saw he hit definitely hit one six

1100
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 3: and I think he nicked one over the slips that

1101
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 3: went for four. So I don't know if he scored many.

1102
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: More than a round two hundred for his innings. Yeah,

1103
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: so he didn't face too many balls either, A bit of.

1104
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 2: That and that's pretty good.

1105
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 3: But I mean Madison, he probably could have gone about

1106
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 3: the same. So and then you've got to also understand

1107
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 3: what effect does that have on the player. So Madison

1108
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 3: retiring himself, that's absolutely fine, but that had come from

1109
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 3: the side, and you know, does that affect the player thinking,

1110
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 3: oh gosh, these guys don't rape me, or they don't

1111
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 3: think I can finish the game off. It can have

1112
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 3: a negati effect unless you've spoken about it as a

1113
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 3: team before the tournament. So for example, for Devin Conway,

1114
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 3: he was amused when we decided to retire him in

1115
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 3: that particular game and I think it had an effect

1116
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 3: on him moving forward.

1117
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: So then does that mean there needs to be a

1118
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: mindset change from cricket that it's almost like taking a

1119
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: bowl off who's not doing a job for his team

1120
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: and replacing him with another bowler. That it can happen

1121
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 1: to a batter as well, who he might be twelve

1122
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: off eighteen balls when they need to be going at

1123
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: eight to Nine's that I'm sorry, you're not doing good

1124
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: enough job. We're going to replace you like you would

1125
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,240
Speaker 1: if it was a bowler. So is that a mindset

1126
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: change thing?

1127
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1128
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 3: But I think you need to sit down as a

1129
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 3: team before the tournament and have these discussions and sort

1130
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 3: of say, look, what do we think as a team,

1131
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 3: when do you think is the right time to do it.

1132
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: I'll give you another example.

1133
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 3: I was coaching in one hundred with the Welsh Fire

1134
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 3: and we had a player I'm happy to name him

1135
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 3: Steve Eskinazi, and it was batting nicely. It was a

1136
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 3: difficult pitch, but he has a reputation of being very

1137
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 3: good in the power play and then not really been

1138
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 3: able to find the boundaries through the middle phase of

1139
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 3: the game. And so there was discussions going on in

1140
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 3: the dugout of whether we should retire him and bring

1141
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 3: in a player that can find the boundary through the

1142
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 3: middle a guy called Tom Coler Cadmore, And I was

1143
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 3: sitting there and I'm thinking, I don't like this, So

1144
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 3: we decided not to do it. And to be fair,

1145
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 3: Steve Eskenazi absolutely dominated the middle phase, ended up on

1146
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 3: sixty odd and hit a number of boundaries, and I thought, oh,

1147
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 3: thank goodness we didn't retire him, because the new guy

1148
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 3: coming in might have had to take four or five

1149
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 3: bulls to get used to the conditions and then be

1150
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 3: able to try and pick up the pace. And I'm

1151
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 3: so glad we decided not to do it. So there

1152
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 3: is going to have to be a change of mindset.

1153
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I'm still reticent to go for it.

1154
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: See I was dead set on it being a good thing.

1155
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: But even if you're saying it now. It's starting to

1156
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: make me feel like it's good on paper or good

1157
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: in theory, but it doesn't necessarily work that way when

1158
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: it actually you put it in practice.

1159
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 3: If you've got say like an Andre Russ waiting in

1160
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 3: the wings, and you know he can come out and

1161
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 3: smash it from ball one for the last couple of overs,

1162
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 3: maybe you do just send him in there and say,

1163
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 3: you know, try and try to hit a couple of

1164
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 3: six sift and if the bat are out there in

1165
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 3: the middle is getting tired or he's lost a bit

1166
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 3: of power, you know, he's just not been able to

1167
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 3: find the middle of the bat for a period of time,

1168
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 3: then definitely consider it. But I feel like you need

1169
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 3: to have that conversation as a team.

1170
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 1: Sean Abbotts, he was bowling another night at Marvel Stadium

1171
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: and all I can think about was you, Because you

1172
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: talked about him being in the top three best BBL

1173
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 1: players of all time. We haven't seen a lot of

1174
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: him through this tournament, through injury. He's immediately making an impact.

1175
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: Is there no one I'm going to say? How do

1176
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: I say this? It's almost like he's more important to

1177
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: his team than anyone else in the competition.

1178
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's fair. I think that's fair.

1179
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean he bowls all the difficult overs and

1180
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 3: Moses on Rix goes to him every single time, so

1181
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 3: he knows he can trust him. He knows that he

1182
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 3: will again be able to execute his skills most most

1183
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 3: of the time under pressure. He picks up wickets for them.

1184
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 3: He's gone in the field. He's handy with the bat

1185
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 3: as well, so he's one of those complete package players

1186
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 3: that we're talking about before. So yeah, he's very very

1187
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 3: important player and he'll be jumping out of his skin,

1188
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 3: you know, to play. You know, he's been injured for

1189
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 3: a while, so back to full fitness, bit of confidence

1190
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 3: early by having a good game under his belt and

1191
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 3: for the Sixers, I hope he can keep those performances up.

1192
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: Absolutely. We might continue that conversation around retiring that's been

1193
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: after the show, because I've still got more questions I

1194
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: want to ask about that, but we are pretty much

1195
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: wrapping up our show for today. Thank you for coming

1196
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: in again. It's great talking for here with you, and

1197
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: thank you all so to Maali Bidman for joining us

1198
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: from the scorches. But before we do this, two things

1199
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: before we go there's two things I need to do. Firstly,

1200
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,879
Speaker 1: your super coach team. Please, how is it going? Because

1201
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,919
Speaker 1: I know you take it more seriously than me, which

1202
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: I didn't think was possible. James and I we've got

1203
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: our team. It's just like the most important thing we

1204
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: do over summer. How's your going, because I think it's

1205
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: going better than mine.

1206
00:50:59,280 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 2: I'm going okay.

1207
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 3: I've just been sorting out my trades this morning actually

1208
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 3: for the new round.

1209
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:04,879
Speaker 2: The new round starts today.

1210
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: With it, you're already looking ahead to the next round

1211
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: in the round after that, well, you've got to keep

1212
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 1: an eye on the schedule.

1213
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 3: So the Sydney Sixers have two games this round, so

1214
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 3: anyone out there get a couple of Sydney Sixers players

1215
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 3: into your team. My rankings coming down, so it's I'm

1216
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 3: ranked one, three hundred and thirteenth at the moment, so

1217
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 3: not too bad.

1218
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:22,479
Speaker 1: It's pretty good.

1219
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but many yea.

1220
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 3: Last round was okay, but still managed to hang in there,

1221
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 3: so I'm enjoying it.

1222
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: We crashed and burned in the last round where we're

1223
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 1: having a crisis meeting over lunch today before we start

1224
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: looking at our trades and what about updated seeds? At

1225
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: this point in the tournament. Did a week or so ago,

1226
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 1: what have you got for us now?

1227
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I'm not sure if they've changed too much.

1228
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 3: To be honest, I've gone Hobart Hurricanes still number one,

1229
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 3: per Scorches nipping at their heels, especially now that they're

1230
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 3: getting a bowling sorted out as well. They're number two.

1231
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 3: I'm still got the Melbourne Stars in there in the

1232
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 3: top three, despite losing it the last couple of games.

1233
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 3: I think there's enough quality in their team there. And

1234
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 3: then at four I'm sliding the Sixers in there. I

1235
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 3: feel as though they're getting their game going a little

1236
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 3: bit more. Babbo's starting to find a bit of form

1237
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 3: as well and Sewan Abbott back in the team that

1238
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 3: I feel like they're a top fourteen all right.

1239
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 1: For what it's worth, I've got Stars, Hurricanes, Scorches, Sixers,

1240
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: with the Renegades fifth. They're my hic at the moment,

1241
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: so pretty similar to what you've got, but in a

1242
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: different order. I don't think it also to play the

1243
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: Big Bash grid game. I know that a lot of

1244
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: people are having a lot of fun with that, showing

1245
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: off with all the random players from the past that

1246
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: have played in the BBL and make sure you also

1247
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1249
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1250
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1251
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1252
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Speaker 1: for the surge. We'll catch you again next time.