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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Rap, a weekly podcast covering women's sports news. Bears,

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Speaker 1: what have we got around the grounds this week?

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Speaker 2: They see are set to send athletes home from the

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Speaker 2: Olympic Village in Paris straight after competing like they're.

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Speaker 2: Newcomers Western United secure their spot in the A League

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Speaker 1: For the key story, we'll discuss England women's rugby head

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Speaker 2: So In some Olympics news, the Australian Olympic Committee looks

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Speaker 2: set to enforce a rule for the Paris Games that

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Speaker 2: will see athletes vacate the village within forty eight hours

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Speaker 2: of their last event. The AOC is looking to replicate

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Speaker 2: what occurred in Tokyo twenty twenty, which obviously those restrictions

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Speaker 2: were due to COVID. This time around, though, they're keen

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Speaker 2: to remove the chance that athletes that have finished competing

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Speaker 2: will distract those that have not.

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Speaker 3: The eye rolls have already started over here. People. The

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Speaker 2: A dry village with alcohol band and as a result,

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Speaker 2: and also obviously those athletes that are still competing. But

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Speaker 2: they actually says there's evidence to prove the decision will

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Speaker 2: benefit the health and performances of the team. The decision

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Speaker 2: has been met with shock from a number of current

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Speaker 2: and former athletes, including swimming legend Jian Rooney, who said

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Speaker 3: This is a long one, but it was worth it.

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Speaker 2: She said, I think it's a real shame because for

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Speaker 2: It diminishes the Olympic experience because alcohol is banned in

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Speaker 2: but there's already plenty of noise and distraction because people

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Speaker 2: part of Olympic experience and it's actually inspiring to see

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Speaker 2: people walk around the village who have won medals. Gives

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Speaker 2: So Callum McEwen also was a bit taken aback. She

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Speaker 2: saying that's the first time I've heard of it. To

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Speaker 2: be honest, I'm really disappointed. I'm really devastated. In twenty

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Speaker 2: AOC Chief executive Matt Carroll said in a statement, it's

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Speaker 3: The learnings from.

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Speaker 2: Tokyo were absolutely positive that for the athletes who are

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Speaker 1: In the middle of the Olympics, so cheap, so cheap.

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Speaker 3: So here we're going to throw it to a real

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Speaker 2: Here Rio, let's cast down lines back well seven years. Wow,

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Speaker 2: that's gone fast, sure has sixteen Rio Brazil, someone I

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Speaker 3: One gold on like day three.

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Speaker 2: I think you know how too, here we go getting

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Speaker 1: I was very, very shocked to read this decision, and

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Speaker 1: I think Kaylee McEwan summed it up quite well. I

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Speaker 1: we if we went out drinking, we were never in

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Speaker 1: that process, and watching some of these athletes compete after

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Speaker 1: and I think it's about so much more than just competing.

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Speaker 3: Athletes to be a part of a team totally.

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Speaker 2: And if that team starts leaving and you're like competing

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Speaker 3: You want to be in the archery finals and have

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Speaker 3: I would never be in the archery finals.

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Speaker 2: You can't focus every one a happy word, protective gear

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Speaker 3: No, but honestly it is. That is part of it.

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Speaker 2: It's the Australian Olympic team. The word is team. You

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Speaker 1: No you don't. Yeah, let's start a campaign.

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Speaker 3: I don't send the team home at halftime. We're onto

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Speaker 1: In football, the first weekend of the A League W

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Speaker 1: Finals had everything. A win for the newcomers, a six

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Speaker 1: So on Saturday, the Melbourne Derby was an elimination final

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Speaker 1: Extra time was a tense affair, with neither team finding

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Speaker 1: it to go. They added another storyline when newcomers Western

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Speaker 1: Western United. It's a huge effort from a team who

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Speaker 1: It's not like they've obviously had some superstars come in,

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Speaker 1: That is the game.

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Speaker 3: You've just got to win. Your opportunity comes, you've got

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Speaker 3: Throw us your wit wre we going to credit the person?

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Speaker 1: rivalry that already existed between Giants and Collingwood and AFL.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it. You guys get around them and

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Speaker 3: like rev them up and be like anyone.

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Speaker 1: But the Pies absolutely nice. The Giants led by eleven

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Speaker 1: goals at three quarter a time, but did struggle in

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter after being outscored seventeen ten and mid quarter.

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Speaker 1: Jamie Lee Price told Fox Sports after the match, I

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Speaker 1: think we just didn't stick to our game plan. We

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Speaker 1: obviously froze with the ball a bit and stopped letting

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Speaker 1: it go like we did at the start. We'll have

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Speaker 1: to look at that and see how to fix that

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Speaker 1: because we need to be strong when we finish games

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Speaker 1: as well. The psychology when you're leading a game, I

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Speaker 1: often find athletes and teams sometimes go too far into

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Speaker 1: the protect, save the game mode and then stop playing.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a really interesting discussion around, like foot

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Speaker 2: on the throat kind of you know, take souls, bury

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Speaker 2: them versus we're good here.

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Speaker 1: It's like, that's why the coaches always say it's nil

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Speaker 1: all halftime to the team that's leading nil all.

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Speaker 2: I hate that when we talk about those sporting cliches

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Speaker 2: a bit because they're hilarious. Maybe I think we should

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Speaker 2: make a T shirt with just a list of them.

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Speaker 3: It's nil. All we've discussed this before, haven't we.

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Speaker 1: I think we haven't discussed in T shirt format. I

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Speaker 1: like it, you know, I'm all for that.

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Speaker 3: A list of a list of ordinary sporting cliches.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what wasn't ordinary up the Tars yesterday,

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Speaker 2: concord Oval far from ordinary.

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Speaker 3: I felt ordinary afterwards.

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Speaker 2: I was exhausted, but the Mighty war Tars kept their

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Speaker 2: underfead season alive with the dramatic one point win over

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Speaker 2: the Queensland Reds on Sunday Avo. The match was an

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Speaker 2: exciting back and forth affair with a crucial Georgina Friedrick's turnover.

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Speaker 1: It was a great turnover.

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Speaker 2: I said to her at the game. I was like,

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Speaker 2: that was a nice little g fred finished the match.

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Speaker 2: She goes, I had two more before that, but that

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Speaker 2: was the You know, at least he got that one right.

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Speaker 3: She did have a couple of cracks she did, so yeah,

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Speaker 3: thirty one to thirty was at the final score.

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Speaker 2: The Reds led seventeen to twelve at halftime, and the

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Speaker 2: warst has got out to a fast start in the

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Speaker 2: second half, we scored two tries pretty quickly enough, felt

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Speaker 2: like we were away to the races then, but massive

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Speaker 2: credit to the Reds.

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Speaker 3: They came back.

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Speaker 2: They never really went away and that was the very

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Speaker 2: nearly pinched the win at the end, with Santa Cecilia

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Speaker 2: Smith missing a sideline conversion with only seven seconds left

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Speaker 2: that would have resulted in the win. Another match on

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Speaker 2: sanday Avo, which was an excellent game of rugby union

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Speaker 2: between the Western Force and the Fijiano Druer. The Force

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Speaker 2: got up twenty three to ten in Perth against the

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Speaker 2: defending champs, but on the fourth huge huge effort from them.

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Speaker 2: The Drewis struggled with discipline throughout the match. They played

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Speaker 2: forty five minutes with fourteen players and after two yellow

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Speaker 2: cards were given to their flanker Nunia Ulukadavu resulted in

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Speaker 2: a red, they also I think they've got another yellow,

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Speaker 2: so they actually played ten minutes with thirteen players. The

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Speaker 2: Force will now faced the Act Brumbys next week in

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Speaker 2: Perth and the winner of that match will probably secure

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Speaker 2: their spot in the finals, which is super exciting for

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Speaker 2: those two teams.

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Speaker 3: That's really cool, really cool.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a look at the key story.

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Speaker 3: So in some more rugby union.

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Speaker 2: England women's coach Simon Middleton caused somewhat of a stir

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Speaker 2: in women's rugby circles or just rugby circles actually last

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Speaker 2: week when he said that female rugby players should be

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Speaker 2: allowed to take conversions from a closer distance because they're

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Speaker 2: not as powerful as male kickers.

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Speaker 1: I'm really angry already.

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Speaker 2: The comments came after England's backup goalkicker Holly Atchinson has

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Speaker 2: kicked four from ten to four from twelve conversion attempt

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Speaker 2: in the Red Roses opening two matches of the Six Nations.

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Speaker 2: Middleton told telegraph Sport in the UK Holly at Judson

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Speaker 2: kicked out standingly against Italy, but she just didn't have

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Speaker 2: the range. I think we should change the parameters a

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Speaker 2: bit for goalkicking for the girls. For any try outside

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Speaker 2: the fifteen meter line, they should potentially bring the conversion

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Speaker 2: within the fifteen meter line. If you think about things

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Speaker 2: that could change a game. Positively is a bit of

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Speaker 2: an unfair game for female kickers because so much about

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Speaker 2: goalkicking relies on power. There's obviously the timing and the technique,

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Speaker 2: but Holly struck the ball beautifully last week and dropped

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Speaker 2: about five under the crossbar.

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Speaker 3: That's really tough.

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Speaker 2: Very few have the kicking power that Emma, seeing she's

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Speaker 2: the Welsh kicker has all that Emily Scarrett has, who

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Speaker 2: is the currently injured England kicker.

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Speaker 1: The fact that he said very few is very incorrect,

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Speaker 1: very incorrect. It's very incorrect. There's players from every single

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Speaker 1: country in the world that can kick it from the sideline.

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Speaker 1: And it was weird timing. I don't know whether it

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Speaker 1: was on purpose or not from World Rugby, but they

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Speaker 1: actually posted a compilation video from the Women's Rugby World

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Speaker 1: Cup showing multiple players throughout that tournament.

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Speaker 2: I think it was about seven or eight different kickers

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Speaker 2: draining them from the sideline.

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Speaker 1: Correct. So he's just really incorrect, And I think what

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Speaker 1: really frustrated me about this is it's their second string

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Speaker 1: kicker who doesn't have the distance to kick. So there's

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Speaker 1: got to be more responsibility on Simon and his coaching

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Speaker 1: staff and the pathways that they've put in place to

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Speaker 1: develop more kickers for when their first string kicker is out,

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Speaker 1: rather than him trying to point the finger at women's

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Speaker 1: rugby as a hole on a statement that's actually just incorrect.

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Speaker 1: There's not only a few women who can kick it

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Speaker 1: from the sideline, there's many women who can kick it

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Speaker 1: from the sideline.

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Speaker 2: Case in point, yesterday afternoon, our winger Desiree Miller tiny tiny,

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Speaker 2: little human size eight shorts.

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Speaker 3: I washed them this morning. I held them up. I

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Speaker 3: was like, what child wears these? Anyway? She does drain

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Speaker 3: them from the sideline.

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Speaker 1: You need to stop doing the washing for the team.

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Speaker 1: But that's the story for another day.

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Speaker 3: Isn't it. It's got to smell right, don't ask. It's

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Speaker 3: just a thing. It's a thing. Okay, it's a good

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Speaker 3: luck thing. I can't change it.

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Speaker 1: And someone like Desiree, how long has she been playing rugby?

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Speaker 1: For only a couple of years and she can kick

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Speaker 1: it quite convincingly from the sideline.

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Speaker 3: Yep, absolutely draining them yesterday.

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Speaker 2: And you know, it's it is really disappointing to hear

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Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. And he did fall back on

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Speaker 2: that kind of you know, he spoke about male female

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Speaker 2: anatomy and physiology and you know, strength levels and width

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Speaker 2: of hips and all these things.

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Speaker 3: That's fine.

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Speaker 2: I absolutely agree with that there is differences, but those

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Speaker 2: differences don't mean that women can't do it. Great point,

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Speaker 2: you know, like, yes, acknowledge the differences, but you know,

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Speaker 2: I've seen you drain them from the sideline th placekicking

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Speaker 2: and drop kicking.

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Speaker 1: And I also drop kicking is harder than place kicking too, Okay,

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Speaker 1: it is kick it that far, it actually is bloody hard.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I just think it's a really misplaced idea

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Speaker 2: from him, and he's an amazing coach, and I think

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Speaker 2: the biggest thing is quite disappointing when you hear someone

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Speaker 2: in that kind of position of power to be like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure the girls are quite good enough for this.

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Speaker 2: That's effectively what he's saying, and that's what it feels

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Speaker 2: like he's saying.

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Speaker 1: One to include some quotes Ash Howson, who played for

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Speaker 1: the Wallaroos for many years and arguably one of the

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Speaker 1: best women's kickers in the game.

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Speaker 3: I was going to say it'd be my if I

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Speaker 3: had to choose someone to kick for my.

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Speaker 1: Life, it'd have to be her.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't it really be ash Many because I think you'd

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Speaker 2: get too nervous.

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Speaker 1: Oh me, yeah, oh if you were going to die if.

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Speaker 2: I missed it, Whereas I should be stone cold. She's

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Speaker 2: got a heart of absolute rock.

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Speaker 3: That woman. I love it to death, but she just

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Speaker 3: train it.

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Speaker 1: You think about it too, So when chatting to the

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Speaker 1: Sidney Morning Herald, she said, I see this as a

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Speaker 1: step backwards. I really don't understand where Simon Middleton is

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Speaker 1: coming from. To be honest with you, I think there's

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Speaker 1: plenty of female rugby players past and present that have

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Speaker 1: the ability to kick from anywhere on the field as

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Speaker 1: well as their male counterparts. They're usually half their size too.

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Speaker 1: She said. The biggest thing for me is we have

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Speaker 1: fought for so long and so hard for equality in

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Speaker 1: women's sport in general, not just rugby, and we've still

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Speaker 1: got such a long way to go. I understand where

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Speaker 1: he's coming from in a sense, but we don't put

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Speaker 1: women's soccer players on a smaller pitch, she said. His

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Speaker 1: idea is not having faith in the systems to develop players.

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Speaker 1: It definitely needs to be coached.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's absolutely nailed that, and I think, you know,

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Speaker 2: like I said, it's we acknowledge of differences and that's

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Speaker 2: what makes us wonderful.

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Speaker 3: But it doesn't mean that we can't do it.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a look at what to watch.

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Speaker 2: The Australian Swimming Championships started on Monday today, with the

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Speaker 2: country's best Olympic and Paralympic athletes converging on the Gold

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Speaker 2: Coast and all of that swimming action we broadcast on

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Speaker 2: at nine now To get around.

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Speaker 1: It, the World Surfly crossed the country and lands in

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Speaker 1: Western Australia for the Margaret River Pro. This week, Tyler

626
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Speaker 1: Wright will be looking to back up her Bells Beach

627
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: win in the epic West Aussie conditions. The waiting period

628
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Speaker 1: starts on Thursday and the event will hold extra importance

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Speaker 1: with it being the mid season cut decider. Only the

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Speaker 1: top ten surfers will continue on the WSL after this event.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be very exciting. Make sure you tune

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Speaker 1: in on the WSL, App and Foxtail and.

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Speaker 3: Our sun Corps of ben netfilm.

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Speaker 2: Match of the Round is the top of the Table

635
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Speaker 2: clash between the undefeated West Coast Fever and the Adelaide

636
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Speaker 2: Thunderbirds on Sunday. The match starts at four pm a

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Speaker 2: s t at RC Arena in Perth and His Live.

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Speaker 3: On Foxtel and KO.

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Speaker 1: And that's the wrap.

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Speaker 3: That is the wrap wrapped it.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget to submit your T shirt slogan ideas.

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Speaker 3: We want some tilly slogans.

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Speaker 1: How good, See you next week on the T shirt.

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Speaker 3: Bye, goodbye,