1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: And Amanda gem Nation today taxing the spare room, does 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: it pass the pub test. 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 2: It's not so much just taxing the spare room, it's 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: offering incentives for people to sell their family homes and downsize. 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: We're finding that seventy five percent of homes are comprised 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: of a couple or one parent with or without dependents. 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 2: Twenty seven percent live on their own, and homes are 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 2: built for the standard to four to five person family. Really, 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: so this is a plan to in a way, find 10 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 2: ways and incentives to free up more housing for other 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 2: families to come into the market. 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: You know, the government should stop mucking around with their 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: red tape and holding back on das and just let 14 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: things happen. Let developers do their bit build more houses 15 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: the olden days. 16 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: But in the olden days, people our age weren't living 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: in our family homes with adult children, or weren't in 18 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: our family homes on their own. 19 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: Like for our parents, it was affordable sort of housing. 20 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: That's true now, but we're working longer, so we need 21 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: to we need to have somewhere to live. We're not retiring. 22 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: There'd be tax incentives, as I said, like abolishing stamp duty. 23 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: Those sorts of things. How would you feel about this 24 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: taxing the spare bedroom? Does it pass the pub test? 25 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 3: I think it's ridiculous. 26 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 4: There should be no taxing your spare bedrooms. It does 27 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 4: look past the pub test. What it all means incentivized 28 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 4: antists to downside, but don't fendalize. People have got hard 29 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 4: all their lives to get what they've got now. 30 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 5: Taxes, taxes, taxes and more taxes. 31 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 6: Like, really, we pay land tax, we pay this, and 32 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 6: now they. 33 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: Want to taxes for a stare bedroom. 34 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 6: I don't think so. 35 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 4: No, it doesn't. The government are losing the plot. Why 36 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 4: give incentive tax incentives for people to move out of homes, 37 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 4: use that money and build more homes. A tax incentive 38 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 4: will only create road which will waste more money. 39 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 6: I don't have tashion a bank to give my kids 40 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 6: to put a deposit down. But what I have is 41 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 6: a big house and they can live here as long 42 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 6: as they need to. And I now have five adults 43 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 6: in my home. We're using up all out that space 44 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 6: and that's what I can offer them. 45 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 5: And I'm not about to downplay quick. I'm still working, 46 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 5: and I'm in the area that I've been working in 47 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 5: for years. It's convenience to me, So why would I 48 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 5: want to sell them downside out there? 49 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 3: They you know you've got what you've got. This is 50 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: ridiculous if they're bringing in more people than they can 51 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 3: a house. Stop immigration, so simple, stoping gracious about it. 52 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: There's just too people coming here for what we put off. 53 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: We we don't have the infrastructure. These government people meant 54 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: to work for us. What are they doing. 55 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: I agree with you, brother, I agree. I get a 56 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: train set room. 57 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: You've got a train set room. You've got a sewing room. 58 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: You've got a walking around room, a gaming room, walking 59 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: around corner. 60 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 4: A sauna, a sauna, you've got. 61 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: A thinking room. It's the smallest room in the house.